Kolby
Is your "light tubed rando bike" low trail??
John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ
On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 at 3:13:41 PM UTC-5, Kolby wrote:
> Hey Kieran, FWIW I used my old Ram for lighter touring and it did great,
> including with a front load (I had a nitto campee with low riders) of
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On 01/04/2017 02:21 PM, Greg J wrote:
Tubing stoutness is all relative-- Despite Grant's warning that this
isn't a full-on tourer (compared to the Atlantis or Hunq), the Ramb
still has a plenty stout frame (compared to the thin walls that are
fashionable these days).
The Rambouillet's
Hey Kieran, FWIW I used my old Ram for lighter touring and it did great,
including with a front load (I had a nitto campee with low riders) of
reasonable weight.
I'm no gram weenie, but with today's gear technologies I see no reason to
carry more than 20 pounds for all the basics of shelter,
Hey Kieran, FWIW I used my old Ram for lighter touring and it did great,
including with a front load (I had a nitto campee with low riders) of
reasonable weight.
I'm no gram weenie, but with today's gear technologies I see no reason to
carry more than 20 pounds for all the basics of shelter,
Many many years ago, my wife rode her Rambouillet down the CA coast with a
front rack. It probably was a Bruce Gordon front rack with P-clamps. We
weren't camping, so we packed pretty lightly, but it held your usual load
of clothing, some food, etc. I don't recall it being a problem at that
Pure prejudice, I suppose; well, perhaps impure prejudice based on my
experience of 5 Rivendell road bikes, which all in varying ways seem to
have hit a sweet spot containing both stability and agility. But I've never
ridden a Monstercross, so I do not know at all if this is true. Still, in
terms
Patrick, just curious as to why you would think the Ram would handle better
(with or without a load?) than the Monstercross? I ask because I was
considering a Monstercross at one point for week-long adventure touring.
You've had a considerable stable of bikes over the years making a wonderful
Bill:
Oops. You're right of course. I should've read what I wrote more
closely. And you're also right in that the Rawland Nordavinden seemed to
handle a loaded handlebar bag just fine. It was a full camping load that
seemed to tax it. A great bike otherwise.
Dick
On Sunday,
Nordavinden has much LESS trail due to the 70 mm fork offset, down around
31 mm. It's not designed to carry much of a load, just a front rando-style
bag.
Bill
Stockton, CA
On Saturday, December 31, 2016 at 8:00:13 AM UTC-8, Dick Denning wrote:
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> Kieran:
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> I went on a 5 day fully loaded
"I was very happy with the way the way the bike rode..." & "I had a total
of 40-45lbs of stuff on this years tour..."
That's about as good an endorsement as one could get for the touring
capability of the Ram. I rarely carry that much weight on my Atlantis.
It's impressive what can be done
Kieran:
I went on a 5 day fully loaded tour on my orange 58cm Rambouillet back in
September. It was the tenth annual fall tour I take every year with a few
riding buddies. Had a Jandd hooped low rider rack held onto the stock fork
blades with P-clamps. I used full sized rear panniers on
Have had good luck running a Jandd low rider on my Saluki on long weekend
tours. The weight is handled just fine.
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Well, I fit up the Tara this evening to see how it looked - not bad! I used
some P-clamps I had on hand, and it's actually quite solid - if a little
crooked.
I don't have any good panniers but I may rig up some crummy old ones that I
tossed in the garage a while back. And then wait til spring
I use the tubus clamps Patrick posted, they're perfect.
I wanted to clarify my opinions on balanced loads and wiggly frames, when I say
balanced load on front lowriders, I mean side to side, not back to front. I'm
happier with all the weight on the front as low as it'll go, leaving the back
Nice!!
On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 11:04:28 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
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> Tubus makes superior alternatives to P clamps for fork mountings (these
> work for other purposes besides mounting lowriders, btw).
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> Photo from thetouringstore.com
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> [image: Inline image 1]
FWIW, my brother recently bought a BM Monstercross, and even more recently
installed some Soma 42 mm tires at sub 500 grams each in place of the 29er
tires. While he liked the handling and feel before, he did say that the new
and lighter tires made the Monstercross feel much more lively. But he's
For sure! I actually have a Tara lying around but I would have to source
some proper size P-clamps to secure it mid-blade. This discussion is
helping me realize I should just rig that up to start.
I envision the Ram as a light tourer for some upcoming short trips I want
to do, in which case I
Kieran
With all due respect, buying a low cost front low rider, Tubus Tara for
example approx. $120, and trying it seems a better choice than a new fork.
The feedback from Steve, Kai, and Patrick appear to show the Ram can handle
a moderate front load well, and heavier loads if balanced front
As Kai from Brooklyn pointed out, the key for a 'normal' trail geometry is
balance the load front to back. Rear loads are more difficult on low
trial. The 'no free lunch' proves true again.
John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ
On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 4:24:49 PM UTC-5, Kieran J wrote:
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The majority of weight on a *low rider* is carried by the attachment to the
front dropout eyelet. The mid fork attachment stabilizers the rack, levels
it, but does not carry much load.
Therefore, the fork tubing is not carrying much weight. A Marks Rack would
be entirely different, as
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