Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-27 Thread redsydude
I don't know why he hasn't followed up here but on 1 Aug 14 the guy who started this thread (Bill) wrote a post titled RBWHQ Spy Photos with several Riv blessed photos of the prototype Appaloosa frame. On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 7:32:52 AM UTC-8, Richard Rios wrote: Are there any rides in

Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-25 Thread Richard Rios
Are there any rides in the works? I've been wanting to go on one just really haven't had any luck with making it... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-24 Thread Richard Rios
Just a bit more fuel for the speculation fire...I actually purchased the sister / brother to the blue bike mentioned above as seen in the garage sale video... Same frame smaller and different color 52/3 cm frame 650B wheels, It was listed as a proto Hunqapillar on the Riv website when I

Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-24 Thread James Warren
Bring it out to a SoCal Riv Ride! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 24, 2014, at 8:13 PM, Richard Rios richardario...@gmail.com wrote: Just a bit more fuel for the speculation fire...I actually purchased the sister / brother to the blue bike mentioned above as seen in the garage sale video...

Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-23 Thread James Warren
I'm realizing what the most interesting-to-me part of the most recent Blug post is. It's the graphic just above the plate of food. -Jim W. On Nov 22, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Grant Petersen wrote: The graphic above the plate of food in the blug is something else for another bike that will

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-23 Thread Jeffrey Marco
here's the full pic of what ever this bike is for those who haven't seen it. https://flic.kr/p/p5ACcg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-23 Thread Anne Paulson
That picture is the new bike which will be called the Appaloosa, correct? And it will be cheap (by Riv standards) and take wide tires? On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 5:35 AM, Jeffrey Marco jeffrey.marc...@gmail.com wrote: here's the full pic of what ever this bike is for those who haven't seen it.

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-23 Thread dougP
Riders with Very Large Feet won't have any heel clearance issues with panniers. Wow! dougP On Sunday, November 23, 2014 5:35:31 AM UTC-8, Jeffrey Marco wrote: here's the full pic of what ever this bike is for those who haven't seen it. https://flic.kr/p/p5ACcg -- You received

Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-23 Thread James Warren
It is the Clem Smith Jr. On Nov 23, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Anne Paulson wrote: That picture is the new bike which will be called the Appaloosa, correct? And it will be cheap (by Riv standards) and take wide tires? On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 5:35 AM, Jeffrey Marco jeffrey.marc...@gmail.com

Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-23 Thread James Warren
There has been no statement that the canti-Sam (AKA Joe Appaloosa) will be at the budget price or will have TIG welds at the headtube. On Nov 23, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Anne Paulson wrote: That picture is the new bike which will be called the Appaloosa, correct? And it will be cheap (by Riv

Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-23 Thread Anne Paulson
I'm so confused. And those blug posts have done nothing to clear the confusion. Riv is not putting the Sam on vacation, or is putting the Sam on vacation? There are two new bikes, the Clem and the Appaloosa. Which one is a budget bike? Which one takes cantis? Which one has super-long chainstays?

Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-23 Thread iamkeith
I think Anne was just wondering which of the two concept bikes was illustrated in the photo. Understandable, since we've managed to confuse things so well at this point. On Sunday, November 23, 2014 11:38:10 AM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: There has been no statement that the canti-Sam (AKA

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-23 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
I'm pretty sure the golden/yellow colored bike just shown is the large Clem Smith Jr. Prototype. It's partially tig welded, will be about $1500 for a full bike and may be sold only as a complete. The long green bike that someone else posted is the the-bicycle-formerly-known-as-Joe-Apaloosa

Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-23 Thread James Warren
I did not intend the reply to sound snarky. I had just before sent a reply directly answering Anne's question. That first reply said, It is the Clem Smith Jr. After hitting send, I decided to add another sentence to the reply to serve as elaboration to add to my first reply. The two sentences

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-23 Thread iamkeith
I think that's MOSTLY right. - As for the blue bike, I'm betting on red herring - at least until someone says it's official. It does sound like the idea has progressed beyond paper though, and that there may be some actual prototypes out there. Until we get some official spy photos

RE: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-23 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-23 Thread Joe Bernard
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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-23 Thread Patrick Moore
There's something happening here What it is ain't exactly clear ... On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: I'm so confused. And those blug posts have done nothing to clear the confusion. Riv is not putting the Sam on vacation, or is putting the Sam on

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-23 Thread BSWP
I'm *still* going to order a custom, it's clear that LARGE frames are not going to be in the new lineup. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-23 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
That looks like one arm of a fork crown, complete with a possible threaded 5mm hole for a front rack. On Sunday, November 23, 2014 9:12:43 AM UTC-8, James Warren wrote: I'm realizing what the most interesting-to-me part of the most recent Blug post is. It's the graphic just above the plate

Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-23 Thread Goshen Peter
I was hoping they were finally embracing internal wiring for lights, they already have some bikes with threaded fork crowns, I know my old bombadil had one. On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 10:26 PM, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA benzouy...@gmail.com wrote: That looks like one arm of a fork crown, complete with a

Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-23 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 11/23/2014 08:40 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: There's something happening here What it is ain't exactly clear ... or, to put it slightly differently, /Because something is happening here// //But you don’t know what it is// //Do you, Mister Jones?/ Read more:

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-22 Thread Grant Petersen
The long mystery bikes (we sold ten) of a few years ago got me/us going on LW (long wheelbase) bikes. The ride is really good, but they don't fit in boxes well, for shipping. The dreamy ride of those bikes lead to longer chainstays on other bikes, and ultimately (well, maybe not ULTIMATELY) we

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-22 Thread Bill Lindsay
I approve of the fork crown. Enthusiastically On Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:17:46 AM UTC-8, Grant Petersen wrote: The long mystery bikes (we sold ten) of a few years ago got me/us going on LW (long wheelbase) bikes. The ride is really good, but they don't fit in boxes well, for

Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-22 Thread Aaron Young
Did I get that right? the Appaloosa is planned to be a canti-Sam with more clearance and longer chainstays? Or in other words the bike I've been dreaming of since before buying my first gen green canti-Sam which has been fantastic??? Please let it be so. -Aaron Young The Dalles, OR On Sat,

Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-22 Thread Ron Mc
dying to see them both now On Saturday, November 22, 2014 1:53:20 PM UTC-6, AaronY wrote: Did I get that right? the Appaloosa is planned to be a canti-Sam with more clearance and longer chainstays? Or in other words the bike I've been dreaming of since before buying my first gen green

Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-22 Thread James Warren
The Joe Appaloosa model sounds excellent. Thanks for the description. The description makes me think of the big blue bike that sold at the garage sale last June (to Kurt I believe) and can be seen in a photo in the June 9 Blug entry. Anyway, that alongside Sam sounds like the ideal bike

Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-22 Thread James Warren
Pause this video at 21 seconds and you'll see the big blue bike I'm talking about: http://vimeo.com/97744269 On Nov 22, 2014, at 2:40 PM, James Warren wrote: The Joe Appaloosa model sounds excellent. Thanks for the description. The description makes me think of the big blue bike that

Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-22 Thread iamkeith
Thanks, Aaron, for helping me confirm that I'm not crazy. I was just saying to myself Wait... don't the Sams *already* have cantis?!I guess that had changed at some point along the line. I hadn't been paying attention only because this model has too much overlap with the ones I

Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-22 Thread Aaron Young
Well, Keith if you are thinking like me then you just might be crazy after all. :) I just bought an Atlantis because I wanted something that could handle puffier tires than my current Sam. (Btw, I think you are right - originally there were some canti Sams, but later versions have moved away from

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-22 Thread Kendallspower
Want! https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8023681452 On Friday, November 21, 2014 3:01:58 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote: It looks like the new Hub-Area Rack is available, now with a hoop. Not only that, it appears to be mounted to the front of a Joe Appaloosa. You can see the rings

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-21 Thread Deacon Patrick
Read the current Blug, Bill. It gets even cleared. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-21 Thread dougP
So all of our wild rampant speculation was for naught. OTH, the welds on the HAR are stunning, and having the hoop optional is kinda cool. Keeps both the hooped-up the hoop-less happy :-). dougP On Friday, November 21, 2014 3:01:58 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote: It looks like the new

Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-21 Thread Patrick Moore
Are the Nitto racks tigg'd or fillet brazed? Looking at the close-ups, my admittedly uneduated guess would be fillet brazed. The frame's headtube/top tube junction is clearly tigg'd, though. On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 5:19 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: [Snippo ...] OTOH, the welds on the