[RBW] Re: Kickstands and Clems

2020-08-27 Thread Alex K
Oh boy. I’ve been using the bolt that came with the single-leg Pletscher included in my buildout with a two-legged Pletscher that I bought from my LBS. I’m a front-loader, so I feel pretty confident that I’ll be all right, but this thread has got me thinking! On Monday, August 24, 2020 at

[RBW] Re: Kickstands and Clems

2020-08-27 Thread Alex K
Double Pletscher Installed and loving it. Thanks for the help!!! Pics to follow... On Thursday, August 20, 2020 at 10:58:37 AM UTC-7 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote: > I'm a fan of the Pletscher double and use it on my regular and currently > only rider (a beat up old Schwinn Traveler built as

[RBW] Re: Kickstands and Clems

2020-08-26 Thread Mark Roland
No, you were clear. I was agreeing with you. I imagine back then when this was an issue Riv may not have spec'd plate thickness, thinking the factory would know what gauge to use in that application. Or they just used what was handy and ignored specswhoops. On Wednesday, August 26, 2020

[RBW] Re: Kickstands and Clems

2020-08-25 Thread brendonoid
Sorry I wasn't clear. Rivendell had kickstand plate failures with the double leg plescher back when their kickstand plates were much thinner than they are now. I doubt the current plates would have a problem. I just measured and the old plates are 0.9 to 1mm and the new plates are 3mm. Huge

[RBW] Re: Kickstands and Clems

2020-08-25 Thread Mark Roland
Yes, I can understand the mounting bolt or the kickstand legs, but not the plate. At least not the one on my Clem. I guess if the plate is not beefy enough it could be an issue. Definitely want to design it so that if anything, the kickstand itself fails before any deformation of the frame is

[RBW] Re: Kickstands and Clems

2020-08-24 Thread brendonoid
The old kickstand plates pre-2013ish were A LOT thinner than they are now. It didn't shear off because i noticed in time but the double plescher had severely damaged by Sisters MUSA Sam hillborne kickstand plate (bent it badly). It isnt a single time but repeated use with panniers full of stuff

[RBW] Re: Kickstands and Clems

2020-08-24 Thread Mark Roland
I am confused by this. I can't imagine the weight of a kickstand "ripping" a welded kickstand off of any bicycle. Not to mention what is the point of a kickstand plate if it can't handle a kickstand, double or knot. I assume you don't mean weight of the kickstand but maybe fully weighted

[RBW] Re: Kickstands and Clems

2020-08-24 Thread Jason Fuller
Ahhh I wondered why they stopped selling the double leg, thanks for the info! On Monday, 24 August 2020 at 16:59:43 UTC-7 Dave Johnston wrote: > A few years back there reports of the weight of the double kick stand > ripping the Kickstand plate off of Rivendell bicycles, so you should >

[RBW] Re: Kickstands and Clems

2020-08-24 Thread Dave Johnston
A few years back there reports of the weight of the double kick stand ripping the Kickstand plate off of Rivendell bicycles, so you should actually mount it with the long bolt and chainstay sandwich, not the shorty bolt directly to the plate. I suspect part of the problem may have been people

[RBW] Re: Kickstands and Clems

2020-08-20 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne
I'm a fan of the Pletscher double and use it on my regular and currently only rider (a beat up old Schwinn Traveler built as single speed with 700x38(aka '42mm' Continental Speedrides) and Chocomoose bars)) but one word of caution is that it will limit tire width when unengaged and in the 'up

[RBW] Re: Kickstands and Clems

2020-08-20 Thread Mark Roland
I have the double on my Clem L, which has seen some heavy grocery loads in the back o bike bags--I would guestimate north of 30lbs total. Nothing on the front rack yet (still basketless at the moment.) Recommended. On Thursday, August 20, 2020 at 10:16:46 AM UTC-4, Alex K wrote: > > Just got my

[RBW] Re: Kickstands and Clems

2020-08-20 Thread Edwin W
I agree with Eric. I have a double legged Joe A and it works well. AND it has fallen over a bunch of times, too... Uneven ground, uneven weight.. gotta watch out. Best thing when it is loaded is always a tree! Good luck, Edwin On Thursday, August 20, 2020 at 9:16:46 AM UTC-5, Alex K wrote: >

Re: [RBW] Re: Kickstands

2010-04-07 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On a related note: someone ought to develop a brake lever with a built in ratchet to act as a parking brake. On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:56 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: I have the Pletscher double on my Rock n' Road. It works fine with small to medium size loads. It is very

[RBW] Re: Kickstands

2010-04-07 Thread Philip Williamson
Could you use a brake lever with a quick release that way? Set it up with the release popped open, then to park you'd squeeze it tight and close the release. You'd need long fingers, I guess... You could do something similar with a QR cable stop, maybe. Philip McMinnville, Oregon On Apr 7,

Re: [RBW] Re: Kickstands

2010-04-07 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: Could you use a brake lever with a quick release that way? Set it up with the release popped open, then to park you'd squeeze it tight and close the release. You'd need long fingers, I guess... You could do

RE: [RBW] Re: Kickstands

2010-04-07 Thread Frederick, Steve
: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Philip Williamson Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 2:53 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Kickstands Could you use a brake lever with a quick release that way? Set it up with the release popped open

Re: [RBW] Re: Kickstands

2010-04-07 Thread Bruce
Until that happy invention comes along, you can use these parking brake bands, sold by Click-Stand: http://www.click-stand.com/Click-Stand_Products.html (bottom of the page) From: PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Kickstands

[RBW] Re: Kickstands

2010-04-07 Thread William
the bike?  I think I have one in a box of bikey junk somewhere... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Philip Williamson Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 2:53 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re

[RBW] Re: Kickstands

2010-04-07 Thread JoelMatthews
along, you can use these parking brake bands, sold by Click-Stand: http://www.click-stand.com/Click-Stand_Products.html  (bottom of the page) From: PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Kickstands On a related note: someone ought

Re: [RBW] Re: Kickstands

2010-04-07 Thread PATRICK MOORE
) From: PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Kickstands On a related note: someone ought to develop a brake lever with a built in ratchet to act as a parking brake. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[RBW] Re: Kickstands

2010-04-07 Thread JoelMatthews
) From: PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Kickstands On a related note: someone ought to develop a brake lever with a built in ratchet to act as a parking brake. -- You received this message because you are subscribed

Re: [RBW] Re: Kickstands

2010-04-07 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:49 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: I do not use my Click Stand for around town riding. I use when I am on tour with heavier loads. My tour bike does have fenders. Click Stand seems to work fine. Not sure why fenders would hinder it. Am I

[RBW] Re: Kickstands

2010-04-06 Thread Dave Craig
Looked at the VO stand. Perhaps I'll give that one a try before I give up on center stands. Thanks On Apr 5, 11:00 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Dave Craig dcr...@prescott.edu wrote: In my experience with my 60 cm Bombadil, I found the center

Re: [RBW] Re: Kickstands

2010-04-06 Thread PATRICK MOORE
The Hebie looks even stouter than the VO but from a very quick and cursory Google search it's not available in the US and, overseas, it's priced like the Pletscher. Is that right? But it looks wider and more stable than the Pletscher, which I found inadequate -- certainly not as good for eccentric

[RBW] Re: Kickstands

2010-04-06 Thread RoadieRyan
I like the look of a center mount more but practically my greenfield is just ok when I have the Panniers on am loading less than 10 lbs, more than that and it needs some major assistance. I guess for the $8 it cost I should really only expect it to keep an unloaded bike balanced. I just picked

[RBW] Re: Kickstands

2010-04-06 Thread JoelMatthews
I have the Pletscher double on my Rock n' Road. It works fine with small to medium size loads. It is very handy for road side adjustments. Fully loaded I have a klick stick stand. Some guy makes them out of his garage. They are real light aluminum designed similar to tent poles with a open

Re: [RBW] Re: Kickstands

2010-04-06 Thread Dave Lloyd
I've heard that wallbike.com carries them, though you have to call as they're on the website. Also, they're available here: http://yubaride.com/yubashop/14-b.html . I do prefer the Hebie over the Pletcher for functionality, hands down. The best kickstand I have is the KickBack on my Big Dummy,

[RBW] Re: Kickstands

2010-04-06 Thread Nicholas Grieco
http://www.click-stand.com/ On Apr 6, 7:56 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: I have the Pletscher double on my Rock n' Road.  It works fine with small to medium size loads.  It is very handy for road side adjustments. Fully loaded I have a klick stick stand.  Some guy makes them

[RBW] Re: Kickstands

2010-04-06 Thread JoelMatthews
Yeah, that is the one. Lucky for him he is not relying on me to do his marketing. He comes across as a pretty cool person, into riding. On Apr 6, 10:09 pm, Nicholas Grieco nicholasgri...@att.net wrote: http://www.click-stand.com/ On Apr 6, 7:56 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: Kickstands

2010-04-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Dave Craig dcr...@prescott.edu wrote: In my experience with my 60 cm Bombadil, I found the center Esge 2 leg stand to be unstable on anything but dead flat, hard ground. I mention the size of the bike because I wondered whether the height provided a greater

Re: [RBW] Re: Kickstands

2010-04-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
The nice thing about a 2-leg stand is that it will hold the bike up when a wheel is removed for repair (you may have to weight front or rear to keep the bike's other wheel on the ground), which in my opinion (opinion only, as I've not yet toured) might be good for loaded touring. On Sun, Apr 4,

[RBW] Re: Kickstands

2010-04-05 Thread William
It took me only a couple minutes of east bay mud on my new Bombadil to realize that a bottom bracket kickstand plate makes an excellent mud catcher. On Apr 4, 11:05 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 4,

[RBW] Re: Kickstands

2010-04-05 Thread Dave Craig
Lots of people like the Esge two leg stands. I can only speak from my experience and from comparing parking my wife's bike with parking my bike for two months of touring. She seemed to be able to park anywhere while I had to be a lot more selective. Lifting a wheel clear of the ground was the

[RBW] Re: Kickstands

2010-04-04 Thread Dave Craig
+1 for the rear mounted stand. I've used a 2-legged ESGE stand and single legged stands on bike tours and, while they are better than no stand at all, they are finicky. I installed a rear triangle stand on my wife's touring bike last summer. She could park on nearly any surface and her bike was

Re: [RBW] Re: Kickstands

2010-04-04 Thread cyclotourist
Only downside is you can't use them if you're into the kid-trailer thing still. On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Dave Craig dcr...@prescott.edu wrote: +1 for the rear mounted stand. I've used a 2-legged ESGE stand and single legged stands on bike tours and, while they are better than no stand