[RBW] Re: Question 27 wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-31 Thread BenG
Hi, Hugh. When my 1972 Sports Tourer started breaking spokes, Rich Lesnik built new 700C wheels with Synergy rims on my original hubs, which look like the Phil 'Rivy' hubs. Thus it needed no frame spacing change in the rear; and the O/C rear wheel improved the strength of the 120mm-spaced

Re: [RBW] Re: Question 27 wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-28 Thread Ron Mc
Two Marathons = a kilogram. 3-1/2 folding Paselas TG = a kilogram On Wednesday, March 27, 2013 5:50:46 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: I've had similar very annoying experiences, and have always found a cause located inside the tire: a slipping rim strip; a loose wire bead; a penetrant

Re: [RBW] Re: Question 27 wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-27 Thread Kainalu
I got flats every 1/3rd of a mile with gatorskins. Sometimes it's fun to breakdown and repair, the satisfaction of rolling again after a forced stop is great! But if you'd rather just ride your bike straight through the day go with the schwalbes. -Kai -- You received this message because

Re: [RBW] Re: Question 27 wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-27 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2013-03-27 at 13:35 -0700, Kainalu wrote: I got flats every 1/3rd of a mile with gatorskins. Sometimes it's fun to breakdown and repair, the satisfaction of rolling again after a forced stop is great! But if you'd rather just ride your bike straight through the day go with the

Re: [RBW] Re: Question 27 wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-27 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I've had similar very annoying experiences, and have always found a cause located inside the tire: a slipping rim strip; a loose wire bead; a penetrant stuck inside the casing and impossible to find just by looking at the tread. To paraphrase Dr Johnson, such an excess of flats is not in nature.

Re: [RBW] Re: Question 27 wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-27 Thread Kainalu
Yeah, I was exaggerating. My point was gatorskins=bad, schwalbes=good -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Question 27 wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-26 Thread IanA
Why are you wanting to convert from 27 (630) to 700c (622)? It's not a noticeable difference. The tire/rim availability of 700c is the only real reason (and there would be a fraction more clearance with 700c), but there are various options for the old 27 (630) standard. Jensonusa.com carry a

[RBW] Re: Question 27 wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-26 Thread Michael Hechmer
My experience with 27 to 700c was yes, but not as easily as I had hoped. When I tried to mount a pair of Paul's neo-retros I found that the slot for the shoe wasn't quite long enough, but the original dis-compes, with traditional pivoting shoes could be positioned OK, just at a bit of an

Re: [RBW] Re: Question 27 wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-26 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2013-03-26 at 00:27 -0700, IanA wrote: Why are you wanting to convert from 27 (630) to 700c (622)? It's not a noticeable difference. The tire/rim availability of 700c is the only real reason (and there would be a fraction more clearance with 700c), but there are various options for

[RBW] Re: Question 27 wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-26 Thread Ron Mc
I agree there are many good 27 tires still made, including Pasela TG folding bead - Nashbar just got a new inventory of these. Schwalbe Marathons and Contis at the other end of the weight and toughness spectrum. Also agree that you can't always make the swap. My rear centerpull, Weinmann

Re: [RBW] Re: Question 27 wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-26 Thread RoadieRyan
Actually Schwable, Panaracer and Continetial to name a few still make good quality 27inch tires. I agree that you do have more options with 700c but that doesn't mean there are no good options for 27inch. Hugh check my posting here is you want to see what your options are today for 27 inch

[RBW] Re: Question 27 wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-26 Thread Christopher Miller Rosales
I did a conversion on a Trek 620 a while back, the brakes couldn't make the adjustment. The REAL problem is that the brake posts are much more narrow on the 27 bikes and modern brakes are designed for the wider brakes designed after the mountain bike transition. Look more a pair of old smooth

Re: [RBW] Re: Question 27 wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-26 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2013-03-26 at 05:59 -0700, Ron Mc wrote: I agree there are many good 27 tires still made, including Pasela TG folding bead - Nashbar just got a new inventory of these. Schwalbe Marathons and Contis at the other end of the weight and toughness spectrum. Just to be clear: I never said

Re: [RBW] Re: Question 27 wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-26 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2013-03-26 at 13:07 -0700, James Warren wrote: On an older 27 road frame, switching to 700C on a frame with Sidepull brakes is hassle-free, but on a frame with cantilever brakes, there will often be problems with pad alignment. Freedom from hassles is a matter of having sufficient

Re: [RBW] Re: Question 27 wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-26 Thread Minh
i will echo what steve says, measure! i made the same assumption a few years ago (still have the bike), and did the conversion because the existing wheels were chromed steel (in poor condition), the back was no issue even with short reach side-pulls. but the front fork had tons of tire

Re: [RBW] Re: Question 27 wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-26 Thread RoadieRyan
Fair enough Steve, how would you rate the Conti Gator Skins or Schwalbe Marathons which also have 27x1 1/4 options? On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 1:00:48 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: On Tue, 2013-03-26 at 05:59 -0700, Ron Mc wrote: I agree there are many good 27 tires still made,

Re: [RBW] Re: Question 27 wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-26 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2013-03-26 at 13:45 -0700, RoadieRyan wrote: Fair enough Steve, how would you rate the Conti Gator Skins or Schwalbe Marathons which also have 27x1 1/4 options? I don't know Contis at all. The Marathons are a heavy duty touring tire. Where do they sit in Schwalbe's hierarchy?

[RBW] Re: Question 27 wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-25 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Hi Hugh, 27 to 700C should be pretty smooth. The radius difference of 4mm means you need that much additional brake reach. Hopefully you can move your brake pads in your cantilevers down (toward the dropout) by 4mm? Here's a VO blog post:

[RBW] Re: Question 27 wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-25 Thread Ron Mc
If you have the 4 mm adjustment in your brake shoes, no problem converting 27 to 700C. Rear axle spacing (width between dropouts) is very important, though. Most 27 bikes have 120mm rear axle, initial 700C were on 126mm spacing, and most bikes/ hubs today are on 130mm or 135mm axle spacing.

[RBW] Re: Question 27 wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-25 Thread hsmitham
Hi Shoji, That's what I thought. Moving the Canti Bosses would be out as the expense would negate the attempt at saving money. So probably 700c. Thanks, Hugh Sunland, CA On Monday, March 25, 2013 6:41:22 PM UTC-7, Shoji Takahashi wrote: Hi Hugh, 27 to 700C should be pretty smooth. The