Alas! The conversation drifts to tire talk! Food for thought, and
thankful. I'm running 700 x 2.1, i think. Joseph will be on 26 x 1.75,
just in case you wanna know. Makes/models remain anonymous to curtail
further tire nerdery ;)
Pretty sure a buddy with a pickup truck in The Dalles is
Ride on!
On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Antonioni Vicente
likewisewildf...@gmail.com wrote:
Alas! The conversation drifts to tire talk! Food for thought, and
thankful. I'm running 700 x 2.1, i think. Joseph will be on 26 x 1.75,
just in case you wanna know. Makes/models remain
I hope there is enough of a demand for really wide 26 Compass tires that
it becomes feasible for Jan to have some of these made.
On Thursday, June 5, 2014 12:54:57 PM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote:
Jan-
I'd also love a wider, supple tire for gravel.
I'm a huge fan of the Grand Bois tires (I run
And really wide 700c tires too!
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 1:51 PM, 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:
I hope there is enough of a demand for really wide 26 Compass tires that
it becomes feasible for Jan to have some of these made.
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-- Anne Paulson
Lot's great tire info on here. I just wanted to add my 2 cents re: rolling
with tires like Jan's. In case anyone gets the wrong idea - keep in mind
that Jan didn't carry camping gear and rode straight through. If you're
riding with 20+ lbs of extra gear, food and water, you'll most likely
Great point, Donnie. I'll see how I feel after I push the Quickbeam
envelope and tour do a Colorado version of the Oregon Outback. If my second
one is on the Hunqapillar, then we'll have our answer.
With grinning abandon,
Patrick
On Saturday, June 7, 2014 9:43:03 AM UTC-6, VeloDirt wrote:
I often read remarks where different tires are recommended when hauling
20+lbs of gear, yet seldom see rider weight involved in tire
recommendations. Why is that? Ill wager the weight of the riders themselves
vary by way more than 20lbs. Why don't more tire selection recommendations
include
On 06/07/2014 03:12 PM, ted wrote:
I often read remarks where different tires are recommended when
hauling 20+lbs of gear, yet seldom see rider weight involved in tire
recommendations. Why is that? Ill wager the weight of the riders
themselves vary by way more than 20lbs. Why don't more tire
The Geax Saguaro and WTB Wolverine are both pretty fast dirt-oriented tires
that aren't bad on pavement--both wear well too...
Steve
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 10:34 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com
wrote:
I must respectfully disagree re. the Speedster. Real nice on dirt, but on
road was
I agree that if you have to walk significant distances, you'd lose more
than you gain on the parts. However, even Ira on his 38 mm tires didn't
walk, except one steep climb to preserve his legs. I walked a few more of
the really steep rollers toward the end, but it was a concern for my knees,
While I don't doubt your and Ira's experience, I'm not sure how well it
applies to non-racers. Maybe I *should* be comfortable riding 42 mm tires
in deep sand and deep gravel, and down steep dirt descents. But I'm not. No
sense choosing equipment I ought be able to use, if I can't use it.
On
I'm not sure that it's specifically a racer thing, but more an experience
level thing. Most of us are noobs compared to wheeled warriors like the
Oregon Outback riders.
Grant espouses underbiking where you try your bike on challenging
surfaces that it may not have been designed for. However, it
I have to say I'm amazed by how well Jan's Compass tires float over the
loose stuff and track better through it than I would have guessed based on
my experience with the wider Schwalbe Duremes. No doubt that simply reveals
my ignorance -- but I'm learning. Supple tires make a big difference in
SR-14 is busy? I didn't think so when I rode it, granted, it was on a
Saturday morning. As for the tunnels, there are buttons before each tunnel
you can push to activate warning lights to let drivers know that there are
cyclists in the tunnel. I left my taillights on throughout the Gorge
Yes, SR 14 can be busy. And there's quite a bit of tractor trailer action
too, which isn't fun when there is little to no shoulder. Traffic lessens
the further east you go, but the section between Bridge of the Gods and
Bingen can be gnarly. Plus, the Hood River Bridge is off limits to
cyclists,
A wider smooth tire with an extra-supple casing... so the Schwalbes
wouldn't be such a great option.
Jan Heine
Compass Bicycles Ltd.
2116 Western Ave.
Seattle WA 98121
www.compasscycle.com
Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/
On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 8:20:04 PM UTC-7, Anne
The key is not to give up performance on 90% of the course to gain a little
on the remaining 10%.
Jan Heine
On Thursday, June 5, 2014 9:47:30 AM UTC-7, Jan Heine wrote:
A wider smooth tire with an extra-supple casing... so the Schwalbes
wouldn't be such a great option.
Jan Heine
Compass
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com
wrote:
So then a better choice would be a wider smooth tire? Like, for example,
the Schwalbe Super-Motos?
It's probably apples to oranges but for the gravelly/unpaved roads we have
here in north TX (i.e. the flat kind) I've
The trouble with the Super Moto is, nobody seems to have it. I looked all
over online. One online store allowed me to order the Super Moto 29s, and
took my credit card and everything, but then this morning I got an email
that they were out of stock. Grrr.
I'm taking the Krampus to Montana for a
Jan-
I'd also love a wider, supple tire for gravel.
I'm a huge fan of the Grand Bois tires (I run Lierres on my Riv Road
conversion and Cerf Blues on my Giordana gofast). I'm sure I'll love the
Compass tires that will replace them.
However, I'd love a Big Apple/Supermoto sized Compass tire!
the Vee Rubber Speedster is very nice on gravel and fairly supple if you
keep the pressure down. Not so fast on pavement but either is a Big Apple.
I'd use it over the Big Apple any day of the week.. They make it in a 29
x 2.3 which would be great for your Krampus
I must respectfully disagree re. the Speedster. Real nice on dirt, but on
road was like pedaling through peanut butter.
Cheers,
David
it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.com
wrote:
the Vee Rubber
maybe you're just the sensitive type David. I got rid of mine because I
wanted some small knobs. I thought they were fine on the road, compared to
some leaden Schwalbe touring tire. Compared to a skinny road tire... yes
pretty slow.
~mike
On Thursday, June 5, 2014 7:34:29 PM UTC-7,
I'm the sensitive type...
Cheers,
David
it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.com
wrote:
maybe you're just the sensitive type David. I got rid of mine because I
wanted some small knobs. I thought they
It depends on how bad the performance is on the remaining 10%. I've seen
the pictures of the Oregon Outback route, and I understand why a lot of the
riders wanted something wider than 42 mm tires. If I were riding that route
on 42 mm tires, I'd end up walking a lot. I'd give up a lot of speed in a
My 42 mm Compass Babyshoe Pass Extralight tires were great on 85% of the
gravel sections. There were a number of places where the gravel was very
sandy and soft, where everybody seemed to have trouble. Wider tires would
have been useful there.
On the other hand, 30% of the ride was on paved
If it were me, I'd stick to the south (Oregon) side the whole way to
Deschutes River. SR 14 is fairly busy, just two lanes with minimal
shoulders in places, and also feature a series of tunnels. Right now you
can avoid riding on I-84 from Troutdale to Hood River for all but about 15
miles
As for other transportation options between Portland and Deschutes, there
is a twice-weekly bus that runs from downtown Portland to The Dalles, and
it has bike racks.
http://www.gorgetranslink.com/regional-thedalles-hoodriver-portland.html
-Shawn
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So then a better choice would be a wider smooth tire? Like, for example,
the Schwalbe Super-Motos?
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Jan Heine hein...@earthlink.net wrote:
My 42 mm Compass Babyshoe Pass Extralight tires were great on 85% of the
gravel sections. There were a number of places
When are you going? I'm considering for later June myself but don't want to
go it alone.
Mike
On Monday, June 2, 2014 9:09:55 PM UTC-7, Antonioni Vicente wrote:
Any Rivsters out there ever ridden this route?
Tons of stuff on Velodirt.com but as usual- seeking the Riv School's input.
An
Here are pictures of some of the bikes that did the organized Oregon
Outback.
https://www.facebook.com/jamesnathanjones/media_set?set=a.10203614505580588.1073741833.1154446016type=1
What tires were you thinking of using for the route? The 1.9 smooth
Schwalbes I have on my Atlantis seem like a
Why was the route ridden South to North?
With the winds, wouldn't it be better to ride from North to South?
On Monday, June 2, 2014 11:09:55 PM UTC-5, Antonioni Vicente wrote:
Any Rivsters out there ever ridden this route?
Tons of stuff on Velodirt.com but as usual- seeking the Riv
I'll ride it in early Sept if anyone is game!
On Monday, June 2, 2014 11:09:55 PM UTC-5, Antonioni Vicente wrote:
Any Rivsters out there ever ridden this route?
Tons of stuff on Velodirt.com but as usual- seeking the Riv School's input.
An Atlantis and a '93 XO-3 soon to tackle it...
After much consideration, we opted to ride the route South to North for
two reasons: 1) get the train and boxing up the bikes out the way first;
and 2) 4k net elevation loss from K-Falls to the Deschutes. I’d definitely
do it this way again. The elevation loss wasn’t a big deal, but I loved
The riders got to Klamath Falls via Amtrak. How did they get back from the
Deschutes? For me, I'd be taking the train both ways, so as relaxing as the
train is (very), it's going to be just as relaxing in the other direction.
OTOH, if I was taking the train to or from the Deschutes, the nearest
If you can pony up the cash, the sleeping cars have a shower.
It's fantastic.
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote:
The riders got to Klamath Falls via Amtrak. How did they get back from the
Deschutes? For me, I'd be taking the train both ways, so as
Well, Jan Heine rode from the end back to Seattle per his blog. However,
after 360+ miles of gravel and dirt, I'm not sure that would be my first
choice.
If I lived in Portland, I'd just see if I could get someone to retrieve me
via car as Interstate 84 is right by Deschutes State Park.
Riding
Who cares if you're dirty! I'd rather ride with a tailwind.
On Monday, June 2, 2014 11:09:55 PM UTC-5, Antonioni Vicente wrote:
Any Rivsters out there ever ridden this route?
Tons of stuff on Velodirt.com but as usual- seeking the Riv School's input.
An Atlantis and a '93 XO-3 soon to
https://goo.gl/maps/NeMmX
Parallel roads on the south side of I-84 west of Bridge of the Gods. Ride
WA-14 though the narrowest parts of the Gorge, much nicer.
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, Jan Heine rode from the end back to Seattle per his
Portland to Deschutes/The Dalles is 100 miles. Riding it in one day is
totally doable, but maybe less than the amount of fun most people are
looking for at the start of a 360 miles (mostly) off-road odyssey. Two days
should be pretty pleasant but perhaps not amenable to as many people's
Jan said after the ride that he would have preferred something fatter than
42 mm for the dirt sections. I think a low profile knobby in like 52-56 mm
wide would be ideal. Schwalbe makes some super plush XC racing tires like
the Thunder Burt that would be great for this ride. I know of a few
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