Re: [RBW] Re: Reading saddle threads, B17, Berthoud Mente

2020-07-17 Thread Joel Stern
Thanks Dan. On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 12:19 PM Dan Vee wrote: > I have a berthoud Aspin and a b17. I find so far that the Aspin is more > comfortable a little less upright and the b17 is more comfortable if your > upright. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic

Re: [RBW] Re: Reading saddle threads, B17, Berthoud Mente

2020-07-17 Thread Dan Vee
I have a berthoud Aspin and a b17. I find so far that the Aspin is more comfortable a little less upright and the b17 is more comfortable if your upright. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group

Re: [RBW] Re: Reading saddle threads, B17, Berthoud Mente

2020-07-13 Thread Steve Palincsar
I don't know if they still have the program, but five or six years ago they did and I took advantage of it. As it turned out, none of their saddles worked for me, but it was well worth trying.  Since then, I've tried to provide similar assistance to friends by lending them a Berthoud Aspin.

Re: [RBW] Re: Reading saddle threads, B17, Berthoud Mente

2020-07-13 Thread Joel Stern
Thanks John, your Next to last line made me laugh. On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 1:14 PM 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > I believe Rivet Cycle Works has a saddle "Try Before You Buy" program, and > they have a few different saddle widths which might

Re: [RBW] Re: Reading saddle threads, B17, Berthoud Mente

2020-07-13 Thread 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch
I believe Rivet Cycle Works has a saddle "Try Before You Buy" program, and they have a few different saddle widths which might works for you. Before you go buying a Berthoud, you might try out Rivet's saddles. Couldn't hurt? Well no, we're talking saddles here, so yes it could hurt, but it

Re: [RBW] Re: Reading saddle threads, B17, Berthoud Mente

2020-07-13 Thread Joel Stern
I remeasure last night and got 110+30=130. Thanks On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 10:46 AM 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > You can purchase Gilles Berthoud saddles from Rene Herse Cycles, the > Berthoud dealer in the U.S. > > The widest models most

[RBW] Re: Reading saddle threads, B17, Berthoud Mente

2020-07-13 Thread 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch
You can purchase Gilles Berthoud saddles from Rene Herse Cycles, the Berthoud dealer in the U.S. The widest models most like the B17 are the Mente, the Aubisque, and the Vars. The Mente is the economy model without the torx head bolts allowing you to change leather tops. The Aubisque has

[RBW] Re: Reading saddle threads, B17, Berthoud Mente

2020-07-13 Thread Ty Graham
Hi, I bought a Mente from Boulder Bicycle. The transaction was great, the saddle not so great. I’ve been a b17 and team pro rider. I was replacing a broken b17 Ti. I picked the Mente since it seemed closest in width to the b17. I’ve not really been able to get comfortable, though. The shape is

Re: [RBW] Re: Reading saddle threads, B17, Berthoud Mente

2020-07-13 Thread Joel Stern
Thanks Steve. On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 5:05 AM Steve Cole wrote: > Joel, > > Sorry for the delay. I have both Berthoud's Aspin and Aravis; the only > difference is the rail material, steel vs titanium. I also have a Rivet > Independence. Important to me is they all have the cutout, which

[RBW] Re: Reading saddle threads, B17, Berthoud Mente

2020-07-13 Thread Steve Cole
Joel, Sorry for the delay. I have both Berthoud's Aspin and Aravis; the only difference is the rail material, steel vs titanium. I also have a Rivet Independence. Important to me is they all have the cutout, which makes a huge difference in comfort. I also like the narrowness as I have

[RBW] Re: Reading saddle threads, B17, Berthoud Mente

2020-07-12 Thread John Philip
I've tried the lot and like the Berthoud and Rivet saddles best. The Mente however didn't work for me and I gave it away. I suspect I was not upright enough. For a wider upright saddle my favorite is the Rivet Imogene. I found it comfortable out of the box. I got the unslotted allroad model.

[RBW] Re: Reading saddle threads, B17, Berthoud Mente

2020-07-12 Thread 'Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch
Hi Joel, I've ridden (and still ride) Brooks B-17 and Berthoud Mente and Aspin saddles. The widths from widest to narrowest is Mente > B-17 > Aspin. My sit bones are 125mm apart, and which saddle I like best depends on the type of riding I do on it. For touring, the Mente wins. For general

Re: [RBW] Re: Reading saddle threads, B17, Berthoud Mente

2020-07-12 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 7/12/20 1:22 PM, Joel Stern wrote:  What do you think of Berthoud vs. Brooks? I think for me, the Berthoud shapes are better.  Also, the Berthoud tension adjustment mechanism is superior.  I like the built-in bag loops on the Berthoud much better than the metal ones (if present) on

Re: [RBW] Re: Reading saddle threads, B17, Berthoud Mente

2020-07-12 Thread Joel Stern
Thanks Steve, zi wasn’t sure if that was a good way to go. Have you ridden the Mente? What do you think of Berthoud vs. Brooks? On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 1:17 PM Steve Cole wrote: > Joel, > > You can purchase directly from Gilles Berthoud in France. The website has > an English-language version

[RBW] Re: Reading saddle threads, B17, Berthoud Mente

2020-07-12 Thread Steve Cole
Joel, You can purchase directly from Gilles Berthoud in France. The website has an English-language version and purchase and receipt has gone perfectly for me on several items. Steve Cole Arlington, VA On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 1:11:45 PM UTC-4, Joel Stern wrote: > > I’ve ridden Brooks