It could very well be the tires/wheels that influenced my comparison of the SM
to the the Ram. My Roadeo runs on Gran Bois 30 mm. My Ram sported
Parigi-Roubaix 27mm (really 29mm) and my SM has Paselas. All of the wheels are
traditional box rims laced to Campy hubs. Neither the Ram nor the
Doug,
My Brother purchased a SOMA San Marcos off the web for $775.00 and built it
up with 11 speed Campy Athena, and Velo-Orange wheels. He did have to
purchase the the Tektro 559's for increased reach. He has mounted racks,
and trunk bags and has since mounted Longboard fenders. He loves the
On Thursday, May 9, 2013 2:50:51 AM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote:
When he spoke to Riv they explained to him that the San Marcos is the
closest frame set they sell that emulates the ride quality of the Roadeo.
This is an interesting quote. I own a Roadeo and owned a Ram. I think
that the
When you say spry, do you mean acceleration or turning? curious because
my new-to-me Ram feels outstanding in handling but somewhat sluggish
compared to my customs, even the 559X1.35 Kojak-shod one I rode today. Not
that, in this instance, it's a matter for anguish, since the Ram fills a
wonderful
I am fighting the concept of a rack on my San Marcos as well. Mine is built
up like such a hot-rod exercise bike with the Vento Reaction Wheels and 10
speed Campy Flatbar stuff that Feel a rack just make it like everything
else I ride. And then I want to stop at the store on the way back home
It's amazing to me how a label, influences how I feel about a given
product. I personally prefer no labels on a bicycle if given a choice.
When I had my Bombadil repainted, I had it done without labels. I know the
origin of the frame, the frame knows the origin of the frame, and Rivendell
I hear ya. Since no bike frames are actually fabricated at Walnut Creek,
you could think of your bike as a Panasonic, or a Toyo, or a Waterford, or
a Maxway, or a Curt, or a Joe or a Mark, etc. They all share a designer and
basic principles though, the same ones shared by the San Marcos. So label
On Tue, 2013-05-07 at 06:49 -0500, Bruce Herbitter wrote:
Speaking of actual labels, when I repainted a Road two years ago, it
was important to me to find the correct decal set. Just because I
really liked how they looked on the bike's down tube . I also got with
Reynolds for new tubing
The labels were written in French. I don't know what tubing specs were
used. 753 frame and stays and 531 fork blades.
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
On Tue, 2013-05-07 at 06:49 -0500, Bruce Herbitter wrote:
Speaking of actual labels, when I
Well, to close out this topic, I should say that Grant wrote me a kind
email saying that the contract with Soma doesn’t allow Riv to mess with the
San Marcos. That’s what I expected, really. The best advice from this list
was to “Just Ride” the San Marcos and my feelings about the lack of
I considered a Sam. I agree that it is much more handsome than the Marcos.
But it is a little heavier than what I'm looking for. I already have
(non-Riv) bike that fits the cargo and loaded touring bill. I'm looking for
something with more zip, but short of a racing bike.
On Wednesday, May 1,
I'm sure that is all true, but the Roadeo headbadge clearly says Rivendell
Bicycle Works around the edges. Yes, the big print in the middle only says
Roadeo but Rivendell is clearly on there. Something like that for the San
Marcos would be nice.
On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 2:29:41 PM UTC-7, Minh
I feel you on this, I drove a Porsche 914 for years and got a lot of crap
from the Porsche crowds. (914 was sold everywhere else as a VW). My '82
Stumpjumper has a Designed by Tim Neenon on the chainstay which I think
is uber-cool.
That said, with the bike built up those who care about these
I was in the same boat but popped for the Roadeo. I sold a bunch of other
stuff I had laying around taking up space on ebay and the like so I could
get the frame. Now I am doing the same thing to get parts to build up the
Roadeo. I was looking at the San Marcos too and almost decided to buy
Stating the obvious here , it's a Soma Brand frame, not a Rivendell !
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As I understand it, this isn't the first time that GP has designed a bike
for another maker concurrently with Riv and then marketed them through Riv
as well, the other most obvious examples being the Herons, dating from
around the turn of the century. My wife recently bought one of these
Something that I don't think has been mentioned is liability. If Rivendell
isn't sourcing these, isn't making much money per unit and a lot of these
are being sold ( I assume more are sold than a normal Riv because of the
widespread reach of Merry Sales compared to Riv) then it makes more sense
On 5/2/13, EGNolan egno...@gmail.com wrote:
Something that I don't think has been mentioned is liability. If Rivendell
isn't sourcing these, isn't making much money per unit and a lot of these
are being sold ( I assume more are sold than a normal Riv because of the
widespread reach of Merry
On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 2:41:04 PM UTC-7, Tonester wrote:
I feel you on this, I drove a Porsche 914 for years and got a lot of crap
from the Porsche crowds. (914 was sold everywhere else as a VW).
Haha, now if you had a 914-6, you could have avoided alot of grief :)
Btw, a buddy
This thread is making me want Mark's BOM *really bad*. It duplicates my
Bleriot almost down to the color, and I don't have the money! Grrr...
On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 12:17:25 PM UTC-7, Doug Williams wrote:
I’m looking at getting a San Marcos from Rivendell soon. Of course, I
would REALLY
Historically, the only bikes which have/had Rivendell headbadges were the
custom frames or the Generation 1 Rivendells (Longlow, Road, AllRounder,
etc... frames). With the introduction of the Atlantis, they all had
model-specific headbadges - e.g. Atlantis, Rambouillet, Romulus, Quickbeam.
What's the motiviation in this case? Is this a case of buying a Camaro but
wanting a Firebird? I've seen some people complain that the model specific
bikes don't have enough Rivendell badging either. The Roadeo doesn't have
an RBW badge either!
I think R`BW have been pretty consistent that
The San Marcos SOMA badge is different from other SOMA frames. I think it's
way cool.
On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 2:29:41 PM UTC-7, Minh wrote:
What's the motiviation in this case? Is this a case of buying a Camaro
but wanting a Firebird? I've seen some people complain that the model
I understand that GP designed the San Marcos for Soma and allowed his
personal name to be associated with that model for a fee. In simplest
terms, he was hired as a contractor to provide a design. Usually design
contracts don't permit the contractor to cash his check, then slap a
different
I feel like they originally mentioned possibly rebadging them AMOS to
differentiate those that were bought through them.
On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 3:17:25 PM UTC-4, Doug Williams wrote:
I’m looking at getting a San Marcos from Rivendell soon. Of course, I
would REALLY prefer a Roadeo, if
Just get a Sam. There is only a 325$ difference between them for the
frames. If you are gonna get a Riv-build, they are still only about 325
different total for the complete bikes. Problem solved. You can get a Riv
for the same price basically.
The Sam has a much prettier curve to the
I would say just get the bike and put a bunch of miles on it. You'll forget
all about the headbadge. Besides, I agree that the SOMA headbadge looks
great.
Bryan
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