As I understand it, this isn't the first time that GP has designed a bike 
for another maker concurrently with Riv and then marketed them through Riv 
as well, the other most obvious examples being the Herons, dating from 
around the turn of the century.  My wife recently bought one of these 
frames used, and as far as I can tell, it doesn't make any mention of being 
designed by GP anywhere on it.  Furthermore, it has completely different 
lugs and geo (no gentle TT slope, less pronounced headtube extension).  But 
still, sitting next to my Quickbeam, it's pretty easy to see the family 
resemblance!  

The San Marcos even uses some/all of the Riv lugs, doesn't it?

Another thing is, if you get a bike from Riv, you're not just getting the 
frame design, you're getting a bike sized by them and built up using their 
preferred parts, which ends up being pretty distinctive.  To people in the 
know, even if it doesn't say Rivendell anywhere on it, it's pretty easy to 
see where it came from.  Check out the Soma Fab blog and flickr stream, 
you'll see plenty of San Marcos' built up by other shops, and with a lot of 
them it's pretty clear they didn't come from Riv.  Sized much smaller (bars 
well below seat in current roadie fashion), much different component spec 
with brifters, short reach handlebars, etc.  

Plus I really like the existing San Marcos headbadge. Having seen it it 
person, it looks amazing!

On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 12:17:25 PM UTC-7, Doug Williams wrote:
>
> I’m looking at getting a San Marcos from Rivendell soon. Of course, I 
> would REALLY prefer a Roadeo, if only I could find another $1,300. But I 
> digress.
>
> As a big Rivendell fan, I have to say that the one annoying thing about 
> the San Marcos is the lack of anything (other than the very small print on 
> the chainstay) that mentions that it is a Rivendell. Well, we can’t do 
> anything about the decals (they have clear-coat over them) but what about 
> the headbadge? Couldn’t Riv put a Rivendell headbadge on the San Marcos for 
> those frames purchased from Riv HQ and fully assembled by Rivendell elves 
> with all parts purchased from Rivendell?
>
> Sounds petty, I know. But reading the web, I am not the only one with this 
> petty hang-up. A Rivendell headbadge could be a big incentive for people to 
> buy the San Marcos from Rivendell instead of Amazon (or wherever).
>
> I hear that a blow dryer will soften up the glue and allow the San Marcos 
> headbadge to be easily removed and replaced with a Rivendell one.  J  Of 
> course, I don’t know what the Riv contract with Soma might say about this.
>
> Doug
>

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