[RBW] Re: Seems I stumbled across the most(?) Rivendell-like alternative out there

2018-05-28 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
They may find out it is not a path to riches, but they certainly are motivated by the possibility of it--you go to China because at the moment, its workers can live on a lot less than workers in the U.S,, there are fewer business regulations, and transportation costs for a slow boat from China

[RBW] Re: Seems I stumbled across the most(?) Rivendell-like alternative out there

2018-05-28 Thread Ron Mc
I've met so many people, notably older, who left bike shops with the wrong bike - usually a mountain bike because they wanted an upright. They would have done much better with a Brooklyn or Linus or Public. Considering the inventory of of the high-average bike shop, this mistake is duplicated

[RBW] Re: Seems I stumbled across the most(?) Rivendell-like alternative out there

2018-05-27 Thread Joe Bernard
I'm quite sure the Brooklyn folks are bike people first..being a small bike company isn't exactly the path to riches. They sell cheaper city bikes to people who would never pay Riv prices, or already have pricier bikes and want a town pounder. I'd ride that 3-speed double-tube path racer-ish bik

[RBW] Re: Seems I stumbled across the most(?) Rivendell-like alternative out there

2018-05-27 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
I wrote what "ultimately sets them apart", but I meant *one of the things* that sets them apart. The designs and bicycle experience are obviously also distinguished and several cuts above. The Brooklyn guys are business people first, bike people second. Not so with Rivendell, as we know;^) On

[RBW] Re: Seems I stumbled across the most(?) Rivendell-like alternative out there

2018-05-27 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
[image: 1] I don't really see the Brooklyn as being comparable to a Clem L, or very Rivendell-like. It's just not in the same league, whether design-wise or quality-wise. It's more like a Raleigh Sport or its many variants--although I dare say the vintage bicycles will be better quality, at le

[RBW] Re: Seems I stumbled across the most(?) Rivendell-like alternative out there

2018-05-27 Thread Tully Lanter
I'd agree with that speculation: things like the freewheel and long-reach brake calipers (both serviceable but not remotely impressive) probably knock $100 off the sticker price, plus another $100 or whatever for comparable headsets and bottom brackets...zero frame embellishments...and the numb

[RBW] Re: Seems I stumbled across the most(?) Rivendell-like alternative out there

2018-05-27 Thread Eric Karnes
Seems pretty in line with the prices of Linus, Pure, Public, etc. Or even entry-level Specialized and Trek. Although I'll grant you those frames are 4130 CrMo. Do they ride as nice as a Riv? Of course not. But I've ridden a few of the above brands, and they're not bad. As to how they do it: I'm

[RBW] Re: Seems I stumbled across the most(?) Rivendell-like alternative out there

2018-05-27 Thread Dave Small
I just looked at their website and they're offering seemingly-nice complete bikes for $400 to $750 and that includes delivery to, and assembly by, a local bike shop? How can they do that? Dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" gro