Laura,
I think you'll be very happy--it rides so well. Perhaps, now that there is
so much information on this thread especially from Kate and Chris, my next
set of tires might be 48's. That will further help distinguish my two
bikes. I just love my Platy!
Roberta
On Sunday, December 19,
Is the Susie better suited for rear loading? I tend to do front loading for
ease of access. Has anyone experienced a front loaded susie over road/lumpy
trails.
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> On Dec 19, 2021, at 6:51 AM, Laura wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for the continued feedback. I took my dog out on a
Thanks for the continued feedback. I took my dog out on a long hike during
the Susie presale! I was relieved that the smalls sold out before I got
back home. I did not want the temptation!
I am looking forward to a Platypus. It is nice to have plenty of time to
collect all of the components
Hi Laura,
I just wanted to chime in with my experience so far. I never sat on a
Rivendell until I unboxed my new 50 Mermaid Platy (PBH 80). I have Rene
Herse 48's on it and ride the bike on NJ roads (huge potholes and glass),
up and down curbs, across grass parks, gravel towpaths, roots and
iamkeith… I actually came across that photo when researching Riv Bikes. As
they say, a picture is worth a thousand words. I have also watched the
Grant presentation twice! I do not compare my vintage ’86 MTB to a Susie in
ride quality, just that I own a vintage ’86 MTB and I can make into a
Laura, regarding susie v vintage mtb: I posted these somewhere about a
year ago in response to somebody's questions, but they might be appropriate
again. Here are shots comparing my susie to one of my old NORBA era
bikes. While suited for the same terrain, they are remarkably different.
Roberta, I loved reading about your path to a Rivendell. I currently have a
vintage Specialized HardRock, but I am switching over to an ’86 Diamondback
Ascent, which is a much nicer frame. It will serve as a great trail bike
for now. I grew tired of vintage road bikes with limited tire
Just to put the final nail in the Platypus tire clearance debate's coffin:
I'm running the same 2.2" tires as Ray Varella, tubeless, and they fit
great with plenty of mud clearance. I'm not going to take a picture, you'll
just have to believe us! Those Herse tires are the perfect Platypus tires
Oh, boy, am I enjoying this thread. Laura, our stories are similar and I
was in your position just 4 1/2 years ago. We are the same age. Feel free
to jump to executive summary, for those of you who know my story.
Background:
In HS, I bought a bike in '75 or so (perhaps the same model that
(( ( ( Laughing with delight on the brink of meaning . at
least of the human variety ! ) ) ) )
I do find the quote hilarious and am in no way oh-fended at all by your use
of it ! I cannot disagree with it. I'm sure you can relate in *some* way
lest the phrase even
Color matters, too. The new/last Susie run will be in Dark Gold and
LimeOlive and hoo buddy those are pretty colors!
On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 2:32:42 PM UTC-8 Fullylugged wrote:
> Ah yes, Rivendell models come and go with great frequency. I tell people,
> if you see what you like,
Ah yes, Rivendell models come and go with great frequency. I tell people, if
you see what you like, buy it. Chances are it won't be there later. Some models
were made in more quantity so your chances at a resale are better. Some are
very scarce.
To Doug's comment, I would reply, if you think
Leah is the utmost authority on Platypus vs Clem L so take her words as
certain as much as one can knowing we all seem to get something unique from
the same bicycle. I had the chance to buy a Platypus but decided to get the
Clem L for two reasons...cost and style. I just prefer the Clem lines.
Sorry, life of Dryden.
On Sun, Dec 12, 2021 at 1:54 PM Patrick Moore wrote:
> (The text is from Dr. Johnson reviewing some novelist.)
>
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"He delighted to tread upon the brink of meaning."
Sorry, Garth, couldn't resist, just yanking your chain; and I do read your
posts instead of deleting them with the huge swathes of posts I delete from
all lists every day.
Back to regular programming.
(The text is from Dr. Johnson reviewing
Tangential, but this is very interesting, since I too find that certain
"fast" bikes are heavier ones; this all-round and not merely on hills. Was
it here or on the boblist that there was a recent thread about what makes a
bike "fast"? At any rate, IME, it's not at all just weight. (Judging "fast"
Hey Joe ..It's all fun and games when it's "Party on Garth ", right
Joe ?
You see, I don't know if your being sarcastic, endearing, an ass or a saint
when you say that. So for examples sake I ask "Why are you targeting
me, do you think I like it ? Do you think I find it
I did use the word “should” which are fighting words! Yes, I was describing
a very non-Susie bike. For that, I stand corrected. But, I am someone that
longed for a Susie for months only to pass on a purchase. It is impossible
to play mental gymnastics without visualizing the bike I would want
Hey Joe ..It's all fun and games when it's "Party on Garth ", right
Joe ?
On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 2:22:45 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
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> Laura, you're just expressing thoughts and opinions like everybody else.
> Garth is weirdly targeing you and needs to knock it off.
>
> Joe
Well Laura, In the art of communication I swear it's miracle we understand
anything at all about anyone and anything ! Hence, I find the idea that we
*ought.
should, could or would *know just the perfect thing to say at all times,
"or else" we either play the part of the mis-understand-er or
Laura, you're just expressing thoughts and opinions like everybody else.
Garth is weirdly targeing you and needs to knock it off.
Joe Bernard
On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 9:37:55 AM UTC-8 me2g...@gmail.com wrote:
> Garth… I hope my post did not read as demanding or complaining! It was
>
Garth… I hope my post did not read as demanding or complaining! It was
meant as a thoughtful opinion, especially in light of the Gus/Susie
possible demise. Riv has begun to make less expensive tig-welded frames in
large part, I assume, because people requested them. Enough customer
opinions
I didn't take Laura's comments as "criticism" of the Susie design. But
Garth is right about it just being a light version of the gus. I almost
got the feeling that it was an afterthought. Like they knew they needed a
1 1/8" headset and a reasonably heavy duty tubeset if Gus was going to be
Laura , the reason the Gus and Susie Longbolts are so similar is because
they are of the same blueprint, with slightly\ lighter tubing and a
threaded stem denoting the Susie. If one wants a step-thru Riv has other
bikes, or have a custom made. I know people balk at customs because of the
iamkeith, no worries… in my angst-filled journey of new bicycle
calculations, many factors have influenced me.
Leah… I favor lugs & fillet brazing! For me, it is an investment worth
making.
In my humble peanut gallery opinion, they should have made the differences
between the Gus & Susie
To FURTHER foul up the decision-making process, did you all read in Grant’s
Blahg that they are working on the Roscopus? See below:
3. Rosco-Plats: Like the Platypus, but less lugged, and with 100 percent
straight, strong, safe, beautiful CLEM forks that just happened to have the
threaded
To Doug's comments on Clem L:
I put a local rider with spine issues on one about 2 years ago to suit her
need for a comfortable upright ride. She is mostly on pavement, but some
of that is coarse chipseal. We built the bike with Continental "Basketball"
tires instead of Schwalbes to get a
Well, Laura. I guess there's one more thing to consider, based on Grant's
recent blahg, is that the days of both the Susie and fillet brazed
construction techniques might be numbered. I'd hate to have been the one
to have discouraged you in the short term, only to make you miss the
Laura,
You don’t mention where you are located, you may be able to locate someone
near you for a test ride.
Ray
Vallejo CA
On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 7:47:45 PM UTC-8 Ray Varella wrote:
> No assumptions here.
> 55mm Rene Herse knobbies fit the Platypus with ample clearance all
No assumptions here.
55mm Rene Herse knobbies fit the Platypus with ample clearance all around.
I actually think it’s an ideal sized tire for the bike.
Fenders with these tires would not be ideal.
Ray
On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 3:33:03 PM UTC-8 me2g...@gmail.com wrote:
> I would like
I would like to add how much this thread has helped me. No one can say if a
particular bike will be what another person loves, but feedback helps to
clarify what to expect out of the various models.
The Susie could be built as an all-rounder bike but, I am thinking, it
would undermine its
I'd stick with the assumption that 50mm is the limit. Platypus started as a
road bike with sidepull calipers as the Cheviot, then got an update with
v-brakes and a new name. My Riv custom-with-droptube was also designed as
primarily a pavement bike and shares the same fork crown*, I'm running
Actually is says both 50mm and 2.2" in the description, plus 48mm with
fenders. Actual tire fitting will vary as there is always someone wanting
to see how close they can be to the tubes and tire widths vary with rim
widths. That's splittin' some split hairs of an seemingly hairy situation
Huh, I hadn't noticed the 2.2 reference before. Riv needs to fact-check
that page because earlier it states max is 50mm, which is about 1.96
inches.
On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 12:28:50 PM UTC-8 Ryland wrote:
> This might be splitting hairs, but Rivendell’s website states that the
>
This might be splitting hairs, but Rivendell’s website states that the
Platypus can accommodate a 2.2” tire. Additionally, Grant states that “It’s
also nimble and more than able for fast fire-road rides with the right
tires”. https://www.rivbike.com/products/frame-platypus-2021
As a
Welcome Laura,
My posts have not been posted by admin so hopefully this one gets through.
The Platypus can only accommodate tires up to 2". If you plan to do off
pavement, I would go for the Longbolts.
On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 8:08:15 PM UTC-5 me2g...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hello, I am new
Joe: nice heads up… I am shorter then you with a 80-81-ish PBH. Factoring
in the long reach on these bikes, the smaller size would be best.
Garth: your advice is stellar. But, is bicycle love prone to flawed radar
just like human love? With the Susie, my heart goes thump, thump, thump.
But,
Laura, trust your first "for whatever reason" instinct about a Susie.
Laura, I can't tell you how either bike, let alone any bike rides any more
than I can tell you how a banana tastes ! You have to eat one to find out.
Now I may wax poetic about the taste all day long but that has no
I would recommend looking at the geometry chart on the latest Clem L before
committing to a 52. I'm 5'-6", 79-80-ish PBH and even with Boscos that bike
would be too stretched out for me. I need a 45.
Joe Bernard
On Monday, December 6, 2021 at 1:02:02 PM UTC-8 me2g...@gmail.com wrote:
>
iamkeith… thank you for so much content to mull over. It has helped
bunches. So many of you have suggested the Clem that I have begun to
research it more. It does seem like it would be a nice trail bike for me.
And the cost-savings would make combining it with a Platypus feasible.
Does
On Monday, December 6, 2021 at 10:03:29 AM UTC-7 me2g...@gmail.com wrote:
* They are both beautiful bikes. For whatever reason, I was drawn to
the Susie. I like the simplicity of the lugged seat clamp combined with
filet brazing everywhere else. The high head tube. It looks like none
They are both beautiful bikes. For whatever reason, I was drawn to the
Susie. I like the simplicity of the lugged seat clamp combined with filet
brazing everywhere else. The high head tube. It looks like none other.
It is why it is hard for me to give it up even though every measure of
logic
>From a purely aesthetics point of view, gotta love the Platypus. Great
lines and beautiful lugs.
On Monday, December 6, 2021 at 7:32:33 AM UTC-8 Lucky wrote:
> If you like orange, maybe also watch for a Cheviot for sale….
>
> On Dec 6, 2021, at 07:22, Laura B wrote:
>
> Leah, your thoughts
If you like orange, maybe also watch for a Cheviot for sale….
> On Dec 6, 2021, at 07:22, Laura B wrote:
>
> Leah, your thoughts are appreciated. Do you know about orange Susie frames
> sitting around??? I have read most of the threads on these models and know
> how much everyone loves their
Leah, your thoughts are appreciated. Do you know about orange Susie frames
sitting around??? I have read most of the threads on these models and know
how much everyone loves their bikes. It is what makes a decision so
difficult. My thinking changes by the hour! Laing hit all of the factors
Laura,
Everyone here has given you sound replies. But again, we are back to
availability of the bicycle. Would you be interested in purchasing an orange
Susie and riding it until the Platys come to Riv? Rivendells hold their value
and have great resale. I really think you could sell the Susie
The biggest difference will be the bottom bracket height and step-through
ability. The Suzie is more attuned to off-road with a higher bottom bracket
and will have a higher center of gravity to go along with the better ground
clearance. The Platypus will have a lower center of gravity and a
Laura,
I can put the Clem L in the category you are searching just to muddy the
waters. Mine is the Lime Olive and is set up 1x10 with knobby tires, 2.3
wide I believe. It is equally efficient on trails, gravel and asphalt. It
climbs unbelievably for a 32 pound bicycle. In fact, it has made me
EDIT…
Jarad = Jared
Lime green = Lime olive
2022 orange Platypus = my prediction
On Monday, December 6, 2021 at 6:49:28 AM UTC-5 Laura B wrote:
> Jarad, thank you for your insights. I have to laugh because the answers
> have made me confident that either bike will be a great all-rounder,
Jarad, thank you for your insights. I have to laugh because the answers
have made me confident that either bike will be a great all-rounder, but
the answers have also made me yearn for both!
So, I am back to square one. Loving both bikes for their potential to
compliment one another, but
Both bike will do what you're looking for, and you wont come near the
limitations of either.
I had a Susie and my fiancee has a Platy, both bikes handle the type of
riding you describe with ease.
The Susie is more confidence inspiring off road and demands a larger tire
to take full advantage
Thank you Joe. My hunch is that you are right. All Rivendell bikes are
multi-functional with the right components. I pulled the 2.2 tire size out
of my head so that it would become a non-factor when making the comparison.
I thought it was the largest Platypus could handle without fenders. Still
Hi Laura, welcome!
Tire size may be the decider for you since you mentioned 2.2. The max
listed for Platy is 50mm, which works out to about 1.95 inches. The Susie
goes to 2.8 so is definitely the way to go if you wants lots of air between
trail and rim.
As for the question of which is a
Thank you for the Platy feedback… Do I want to wait 6 to 9 months more for
a bike? No! But, I will be building up a frame and parts are back-ordered
as well, so buying a frame now will still involve waiting to get all of the
components. Although, I am trying to make my mind up fast incase I
Am I making this up, or is there going to be a Platypus style frame that will
be tig welded and a little stouter tubing coming as well? Would that possibly
be something that would fit the bill for Laura?
Ben, who could be imagining things, in Omaha
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> On Dec 5, 2021, at
Hi Laura!
I have a Platypus and am a big fan of it. I have not ridden a Susie, but I
do have a Clem (which is in the same Hillibike category as Susie). I won’t
speak to trail riding because I don’t do a lot of it, and my bikes are set
up differently. But I see Blue Lug videos showing guys
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