Everyone,
Thanks for the discussion. This has been incredibly helpful to me.
I've never owned a bike with center-pull brakes of any type, so this
is my first time working with them. I will say that as a newbie (but
a quick-learning one) - my Paul Racer brakes have given me a lot of
headaches.
On Sep 29, 1:22 pm, Adam Kimball adamfkimb...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]but right now they feel
incredibly squishy to my hands.
The Pauls do not feel like dual pivots, they are squishy.
When I switch back to dual pivot braked bike the brakes feel
too abrupt, I have to remember to use a lighter
I don't like the modulation of the brakes - I assume that I will become used
to it at some point, but right now they feel
incredibly squishy to my hands.
I have two bikes with Pauls. Modulation is similar to dual pivot.
Your description is subjective but sound like an installation issue.
On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 10:22 -0700, Adam Kimball wrote:
Everyone,
Thanks for the discussion. This has been incredibly helpful to me.
I've never owned a bike with center-pull brakes of any type, so this
is my first time working with them. I will say that as a newbie (but
a quick-learning
I think you should just bring the bike to a bike shop and have them do
it. You've obviously got it set up all wrong, as modulation is what the
Paul Racer does better than any other brake in the world.-
Exactly.
And as I say above, unless the LBS allows you to watch them adjust,
take pictures
The VO's are my favorite. I've used the 57mm brakes from Tektro,
Shimano and Paul Racer M's too (on my Rambouillet). The VO's are
stiffer, more powerful and more nicely constructed than the Tektro's
and Shimano's - no contest. Tire/fender clearance on the VO's is
comparable with other good 57mm
The Crus stop better and don't squeal, at least that has been my experience.
I would be curious to see how you had the Pauls set up. With the
spring adjustment properly set and the pads toed in at the optimal
angle Pauls stopping power is often superior to the bike's ability to
tolerate. If
Joel,
As I wrote it was my experience, yours may be different.
Cheers!
On Sep 28, 2010, at 5:39 AM, JoelMatthews wrote:
The Crus stop better and don't squeal, at least that has been my experience.
I would be curious to see how you had the Pauls set up. With the
spring adjustment properly
I am Grand Crurious myself...but I don't think they would work on the
Bleriot - and they don't open very wide, comparatively.
On Sep 27, 6:35 pm, Adam Kimball adamfkimb...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
In my search for the best brakes, I've been thinking about trying the
Velo Orange Grand Cru brakes.
I'd take that to mean VO believes them to be better than Silvers and Paul's.
Can anyone confirm or deny this claim?
Paul Racers have been around for years, have a very loyal following,
and stop bikes as well as any rim brake made. The Crus are brand new
to the market, dual pivot not center
Haven't used them on a bike, but FWIW, I've fondled them in the VO
showroom and was fairly impressed with the quality and value.
I already rub Paul's on my AHH, and think they're great.
Alex Moll
Marysville, WA
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I was writing back and forth with someone who has them, replacing the
Tektro/Silver (556???) long reach models. They said the stopping power was
great, no mushiness at all, but that you had to deflate wide tires to get
them in. For them, that was worth it.
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:20 PM,
Hi,
I've had the Paul's Racers and now the Crus. The Crus stop better and don't
squeal, at least that has been my experience.
I don't see why the Crus would not be as durable as the Paul's.
Both brakes are CNC machined from aluminum plate. They are not forged or cast.
Time will tell though, but
I've gotten feedback from a few who've used them. Both said they were
far better in stiffness and modulation than either the ShimaNo or the
Tektros. I'm about ready to buy a pair for my new-to-me Ram. The only
down side I've heard is that the Tektro's open wider. With a Tektro
lever with the QR
IMHO its all about the pads which are easily changed. Really now.
its a mechanical clamp squeezing two rubber pads onto an aluminum rim.
The only thing that might affect stopping power is the riders hand
strength. The amount of flex increases with the length of the arm if
its not made thicker
Brake calipers are more sophisticated than you think. And the place of
origin has nothing to do with how well they work. Pauls are well
designed and made, and considerably more expensive. The design or the
caliper and the cross sectional area of the arm can certainly make a
difference in
I have them and like them a great deal. To be fair to VO's marketing
copy, best of their kind may mean standard reach dual calipers so
they may not be comparing themselves to centerpulls. Even ignoring
that, at the time VO released their Grand Crus the Paul Racer M's
weren't available, only the
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