[RBW] Re: Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers

2010-09-19 Thread Lynne Fitz
I don't find the Bleriot particularly easy to pack - the 135mm rear spacing makes it fat in the case, if you know what i mean. takes a lot of wiggling. Plus the Nitto stem - have to do some amazing handlebar wiggling, because I can't remove the stem. Can't speak to the height issue. Granted,

Re: [RBW] Re: Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers

2010-09-19 Thread cyclotourist
Quite a jigsaw puzzle! I can't imagine packing a bike with 700C X 35mm tires and fenders! I'm sure it has been done, but those 650B tires (Nifty Swifty?) barely fit! On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net wrote: I don't find the Bleriot particularly easy to pack -

[RBW] Re: Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers

2010-09-19 Thread doug peterson
I packed an SS bike on a tour for someone who had to leave on short notice. He had photos in the case which made all the difference in the world, showing the packing sequence. I just deflated the 700c tires to get some more wiggle room. Never having done this before, it took well over an hour

[RBW] Re: Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers

2010-09-19 Thread Angus
Lynne, My All-Rounder has 135mm rear spacing, I remove the axles from the front and rear Phil Wood Hubs when I pack the bike. Otherwise, just like yours, it's a bit of a pain. Mine is a 59cm but with 26 wheels...which helps. Angus On Sep 19, 2:25 pm, Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net wrote: I

[RBW] Re: Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers

2010-09-19 Thread NickBull
My bike uses 700x30 or 700x32 tires. I haven't had any problems packing those with my SKS-45 fenders zip-tied to the rim, which presses the deflated tires a little flatter so there's room for the fenders in the case. I always set it up so that TSA can just lift the whole disassembled bicycle out

[RBW] Re: Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers

2010-09-19 Thread mitchelr
Kip, I've tried all the options. I have an SS coupled Atlantis, a touring-retrofitted Dahon Flo (the full size steel Ritchie designed mountain bike that comes apart) and a Bike Friday. My wife and I spent five weeks last Feb-March in Northern Thailand - on our Bike Fridays. We just returned

Re: [RBW] Re: Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers

2010-09-19 Thread cyclotourist
Well I won't talk bad about them any more! :-) On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 3:11 PM, NickBull nick.bike.b...@gmail.com wrote: My bike uses 700x30 or 700x32 tires. I haven't had any problems packing those with my SKS-45 fenders zip-tied to the rim, which presses the deflated tires a little

[RBW] Re: Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers

2010-09-19 Thread Angus
This is my favorite part of the whole thread I'll probably re-visit the idea when it's time to re-paint. Not thought of a new bike, basic assumption that this bike is good and will be around for a long time. I love it! Angus On Sep 19, 4:15 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: I

Re: [RBW] Re: Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers

2010-09-18 Thread cyclotourist
What hasn't been mentioned is tire size. Both Lynne's bikes are 650b bikes. I'm presuming 650B and 26/559 wheeled bikes are MUCH easier to pack than 700C bikes, especially if you're talking touring width (35mm and above) tires and fenders. The world is out to get the tall people yet once

[RBW] Re: Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers

2010-09-18 Thread EricP
Maybe. Then again, my Brompton has 16/349 wheels and I'm 6 foot tall. Like Angus, the last couple of trips were curbside check in with tip. No questions asked. And TSA has been in my bag repeatedly. They usually leave a note. At least in and out of DC. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sep 18,

[RBW] Re: Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers

2010-09-17 Thread eflayer
on my last two week trip with coupled Rambouillet, I did the reassemble on the lawn in front of my hotel. That took about 45 minutes and I had stuff strewn all over the lawn. Lot's of parts, pads, tools, etc. This was a typical assembly location. When the trip was over, I was offered the use

[RBW] Re: Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers

2010-09-17 Thread NickBull
I just recently flew from DC to Seattle and back on Delta Airlines with my SS coupled bike packed in an SS soft case. No charge beyond the piece of luggage charge of $23. In five round-trip flights with the SS case, no one has ever asked me what was in the case. It's just an airline-legal-size

[RBW] Re: Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers

2010-09-17 Thread Angus
After I was asked what was in the case and charged accordingly...DOH... (pre baggage fees) I did curb side baggage check with a $10 bill/tip clearly visible in my handno fees! I guess you could call that a win-win. Angus On Sep 17, 1:02 pm, NickBull nick.bike.b...@gmail.com wrote: I just

[RBW] Re: Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers

2010-09-17 Thread Lynne Fitz
No Steve, I don't pay an extra charge. TSA asked what was in that case and I said... parts. The airline folks didn't even ask. Two different airlines. On Sep 16, 6:42 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 18:11 -0700, Lynne Fitz wrote: I expect I could try to

[RBW] Re: Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers

2010-09-17 Thread Lynne Fitz
All my destination reassembly has been inside, usually in the hotel room. I've assembled it in Prague, St George UT, Histon (UK), Budapest, our summer place... I have a sheet of plastic that I put underneath. No mess. No misplaced bits. Disassembly got a lot faster once I got a wireless

[RBW] Re: Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers

2010-09-17 Thread Calm54
I have seen your Bleriot and it is a beauty. Did you get SS couplers on the sweetpea? On Sep 17, 10:26 pm, Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net wrote: All my destination reassembly has been inside, usually in the hotel room.  I've assembled it in Prague, St George UT, Histon (UK), Budapest, our

[RBW] Re: Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers

2010-09-16 Thread Angus
I have a coupled Rivendell All-Rounder. It has traveled by air internationally and domestically three or four times. Is it cost efficient? Probably not. Is it convienient? Sure. I have used the couplers the quickly put the bike in the trunk of a car. A bit time consuming to pack/unpack, the

[RBW] Re: Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers

2010-09-16 Thread MichaelH
I have a coupled tandem and am thinking about getting my old Trek frame converted. I have experienced some difficulty getting onto commuter planes with my frame, and some airlines absolutely will not carry an unpacked bike, but can't be relied upon to have boxes. Plus I hate the hassle of

[RBW] Re: Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers

2010-09-16 Thread EricP
Some folks have toured with a Brompton. With the big front bag and a seatpost bag like the Carradice SQR system could probably do pretty serious touring. Handling doesn't seem to change much with the bag up front. Sketchy either way. Can't see doing 500 miles on it. Happen to own a Brompton

[RBW] Re: Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers

2010-09-16 Thread Scott G.
On Sep 15, 10:57 pm, Allan in Portland allan_f...@aracnet.com wrote: Piaw Nu has some pretty strong opinions against them:http://piaw.blogspot.com/search?q=S%26S+couplers The date on the article is 2007, before the Airlines fees for bikes and baggage started to climb. You can also have a

[RBW] Re: Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers

2010-09-16 Thread Allan in Portland
On Sep 16, 5:29 am, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: BTW, I would love to visit Thailand, and bring our tandem.  Tell us more about your cycling experience there. Michael My wife, 2 y.o., and I toured Laos a few years back with our tandem. Absolutely loved it. Used a box for the

[RBW] Re: Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers

2010-09-16 Thread Montclair BobbyB
To the OP: please let us know the outcome of your kickstand plate fix. Thx, BB On Sep 16, 8:53 am, Scott G. sco...@primax.com wrote: On Sep 15, 10:57 pm, Allan in Portland allan_f...@aracnet.com wrote: Piaw Nu has some pretty strong opinions against

[RBW] Re: Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers

2010-09-16 Thread Lynne Fitz
I sent my Bleriot frame off to Bilenky for SS couplers before I built it up. Bleriot was also, until recently, my randonneuring bike. Seems to work just fine :-) No problems. It has also been packed and taken on airplanes many times (Europe twice. Mostly to the family summer place). No

Re: [RBW] Re: Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers

2010-09-16 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 18:11 -0700, Lynne Fitz wrote: I expect I could try to rationalize the cost - I had the conversion done before the SS price increase. I figured couplers, case, and packing accessories added $1000 to the cost. 10 flights with a non- coupled bike would have been that

Re: [RBW] Re: Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers

2010-09-16 Thread Anne Paulson
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 18:11 -0700, Lynne Fitz wrote: I expect I could try to rationalize the cost - I had the conversion done before the SS price increase.  I figured couplers, case, and packing accessories added $1000

[RBW] Re: Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers

2010-09-16 Thread Earl Grey
Kip, what a bummer. I had some kid clamber onto the backseat of my parked double- kickstanded tandem the other day, and held my breath but didn't have the heart to tell him to get his b*tt off the bike. I guess kids here in Thailand are so used to sitting on parked mopeds with their much sturdier

[RBW] Re: Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers

2010-09-15 Thread Allan in Portland
Piaw Nu has some pretty strong opinions against them: http://piaw.blogspot.com/search?q=S%26S+couplers I've not owned a couplered bike myself, but I am sympathetic to Piaw's argument, which at its most essential is 'couplers are not cost- efficient.' If you want travel friendly get a Brompton.

[RBW] Re: Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers

2010-09-15 Thread eflayer
I own a coupled Rambouillet. I bought it used with the couplers already installed. I love the bike for general riding and just completed my second 500 mile unloaded tour with the Rambouillet. Patience required to pack, build up, dismantle, ship. But what a way to go! Not sure about a Brompton