[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-02-17 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
Me and mine borrowed a Burley tandem for a couple months last summer. Used it as a kid hauler both around town and on a week long tour. Watched CL for 6 months and nothing even remotely suitable came up. After looking at stock models we ended up ordering a custom to better fit 93/78 PBH and

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-02-09 Thread Michael Hechmer
In addition to what Steve has noted there is also an issue of strength. The captain needs to keep the bike upright while the stoker mounts and when at stops like traffic lights, where the pilot puts a foot down while the stoker stays clipped in. This is easy as long as the bike remains

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-02-09 Thread ted
Fair enough, but I think the notion of sufficiency is relevant here. One being stronger doesn't necessarily mean the other is not strong enough. The same goes for experience. See http://www.gtgtandems.com/tech/femcaptain.html for an alternative view. ted On Sunday, February 9, 2014 10:20:39

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-02-08 Thread ted
I am sure Jim knows well where of he speaks, so I count my wife and I as very lucky to have gotten a used tandem that suits us fairly well for far less than 5k, and through RBW no less. What I don't get though, is why virtually no enthusiastic husbands seem to let their wives drive. I can see

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-02-08 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 02/08/2014 12:03 PM, ted wrote: I am sure Jim knows well where of he speaks, so I count my wife and I as very lucky to have gotten a used tandem that suits us fairly well for far less than 5k, and through RBW no less. What I don't get though, is why virtually no enthusiastic husbands seem

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-02-07 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Here's my tandem. My stokers are 4, 6, and 8 years old. The oldest has been known to roll 70-mile hilly days back to back. http://www.flickr.com/x/t/0099009/photos/twowheelflight/4707219723/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-02-07 Thread Steven Frederick
Fat front tandem-that's awesome! On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Here's my tandem. My stokers are 4, 6, and 8 years old. The oldest has been known to roll 70-mile hilly days back to back.

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-02-07 Thread Bruce Herbitter
Here's one solution I found... http://www.instructables.com/id/brilliantly-simple-tandem-bike/?ALLSTEPS On 2/7/2014 11:16 AM, Toshi Takeuchi wrote: Hey Jim, where is your quad bike or better yet your quint family bike? :) --Those are some serious tires! -T On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:02

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-02-07 Thread MG
Beautiful setup! Like the water bottle on the stoker stem... Mary Gersema Washington, DC On Friday, February 7, 2014 12:02:29 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Here's my tandem. My stokers are 4, 6, and 8 years old. The oldest has been known to roll 70-mile hilly days back to

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-02-07 Thread Michael Hechmer
- he was much more into downhill speed than I ever was. His wife later thanked me for training him how to be a good captain. :-) Yea, it took me awhile to catch on that Pat's screaming on the downhills wasn't about the big O Michael -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-02-07 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
Hey Jim, where is your quad bike or better yet your quint family bike? :) --Those are some serious tires! -T On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Here's my tandem. My stokers are 4, 6, and 8 years old. The oldest has been known to roll

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-02-06 Thread Scott Henry
I have been trying not to buy one of these: http://www.amazon.com/Giordano-Viaggio-Tandem-White-Pearl/dp/B004Q3PE30/ref=sr_1_3?s=cyclingie=UTF8qid=1391696071sr=1-3 But I know that for $500 to my door I will be getting one sooner or later. Its cheap, I am sure I could up-spec it a bit with what I

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-02-05 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
Hey Bill, You can also use crank shorteners to ride with the kids on the tandem. My short-legged 9 yr old son uses crank shorteners now. My daughter can't use them yet. I have a Santana 26 cro-moly tandem. Wonderful bike with thousands of miles with the kids. (I also have a 700c triplet bike that

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-02-05 Thread Bill Lindsay
yeah, I probably could have done that. Now, if I do what I should now, I'll just pony up for a new Ritchey double breakaway and run it 650B. On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 3:36:00 PM UTC-8, ttoshi wrote: Hey Bill, You can also use crank shorteners to ride with the kids on the tandem. My

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-02-05 Thread charlie.fowler
My sister and I ride a 1976 Motobecane tandem we got a few years ago. Has bar end shifters, a TA triple and a frozen captain's seat post. Lucky seat height is right. It's pretty Granted out. Shellaced bar tape and twine, a Hobo bag hanging on stoker bar and a little joe bag flipped backwards

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-02-04 Thread Jason Marshall
There are tons of really cheap $100 - $200 tandems on craigslist. I just bought a 1969 Schwinn Twinn for $125. Obviously this isn't an event grade bike but my girlfriend and I have had a good time playing around with it in the city. I would suggest you consider picking up something

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-02-04 Thread Ron Mc
My buddy had his Cannondale tandem set up for him with his two daughters - the taller as stoker and the much shorter daughter on a Burley Piccolo trailer bike. On Friday, January 31, 2014 2:51:06 PM UTC-6, Tim McNamara wrote: On Jan 31, 2014, at 2:42 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-01-31 Thread John Philip
Here's our Santana set up with Albas front and rear. http://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/12235116233/ I've had it since the mid 90s. The rides these days are shorter and flatter as my wife is much more comfortable on her single and our overall power has decreased. She is very sensitive to

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-01-31 Thread dailyrandonneur
My wife and I ride Rivendell models -- Romulus, Rambouillet, others -- and after riding a Cannondale MTB tandem with slicks drop bars for awhile we went to Co-Motion. We asked Dwan to replicate our positions on a 57 Romulus in the back and a 58 Rambouillet in the front and set up the

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-01-31 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
I believe this was GP's tandem at one time: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/wsf-0043.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-01-31 Thread Bill Lindsay
My tandem is an Ibis Touche. 700c with Jack Browns currently. My wife and I have only ridden it a couple times, before having kids. I did a century on it with a guest stoker about 4 years ago, though, and it was great. It has a unicrown fork with tons of clearance, so I could go a lot

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-01-31 Thread Curtis McKenzie
Bill, Enjoy the window for it is ephemeral. Curtis who knows from experience McKenzie On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: My tandem is an Ibis Touche. 700c with Jack Browns currently. My wife and I have only ridden it a couple times, before having

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-01-31 Thread Tim McNamara
On Jan 31, 2014, at 2:42 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Hopefully there will be a small window where he's tall enough to ride the tandem with me and not old enough to realize his dad is a huge dork and not want to ride it with me. The dilemma of fatherhood in a nutshell.

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-01-31 Thread Steven Frederick
...it's going to be on like Donkey Kong...his dad is a huge dork... Heh, phrases like that probably won't help your case...B-) Steve On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Curtis McKenzie cmcy...@gmail.com wrote: Bill, Enjoy the window for it is ephemeral. Curtis who knows from experience

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-01-31 Thread Bill Lindsay
OUCH! Owned! In reality, he's always begging to go on S24Os, so I expect he'll be game for a lot of things this summer. Although he likes playing video games as much as any pre-teen, he also is an expert at both Cribbage and Pinochle, so I'm not going to expect him to be a completely run of

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-01-31 Thread John Philip
Sounds a lot like mine and things turned out very well indeed! http://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/12241381705/ On Friday, January 31, 2014 4:06:03 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: OUCH! Owned! In reality, he's always begging to go on S24Os, so I expect he'll be game for a lot of things this

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-01-31 Thread Steven Frederick
FWIW, I only (relatively) briefly lost interest in hanging out with my dad-we canoed together when I was in my late teens and camped and hunted together when I was in my 30's. Dad was never a cycler but if he had been, I don't doubt we would've done that together too. On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-01-31 Thread Bill Lindsay
Very good stuff, John Philip! Thanks for sharing that, and thanks stevef, too. I'm looking forward to the next few years. On Friday, January 31, 2014 1:52:17 PM UTC-8, stevef wrote: FWIW, I only (relatively) briefly lost interest in hanging out with my dad-we canoed together when I was

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-01-30 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
I love tandems, and so does my Glorius-riding stoker! That said, I highly doubt she would want to sit on the back of one for a century. There's no such thing as not pedalling unless you have a Da Vinci type independent system http://www.davincitandems.com/dv2.html Used Santanas are the most

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-01-30 Thread Ron Mc
My buddy last year sold his too large (for his new wife) Cannondale tandem, and bought a great smaller used steel Santana. They're both very happy with the bike and we ride together frequently, which keeps me chasing them very hard down hills. They trained last summer to ride Donner Pass in

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-01-30 Thread Bill Lindsay
...and it's relisted at $1275. Thank LOB it's small for me On Thursday, January 30, 2014 11:17:51 AM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I love tandems, and so does my Glorius-riding stoker! That said, I highly doubt she would want to sit on the back of one for a century. There's no such

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-01-30 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
I didn't catch the re-listing. A few sizes too small for me as well, praise the briny depths! On Thursday, January 30, 2014 12:05:11 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote: ...and it's relisted at $1275. Thank LOB it's small for me On Thursday, January 30, 2014 11:17:51 AM UTC-8,

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-01-30 Thread Joe Broach
Rachel and I had too great a height difference (captain SH 83cm, stoker 63cm) for a production tandem, so we were in custom or Bike Friday waters. We went Bike Friday in the end. If we were to do it over, I think we would find the tallest frame the stoker could straddle and then hack the captain's

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-01-30 Thread Tony McG
A few years ago, Grant mentioned a Riv tandem, but he wasn't sure that there would be enough demand because of the cost. We bought a used custom 1996 Santana Noventa (fillet brazed Columbus Nivacrom) built for a couple in Denver, CO. I had a hard time finding a used tandem that would give me

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-01-30 Thread Tim Gavin
My little brother (not a Riv rider... yet.) and his wife took a purple Santana tandem on RAGBRAI last year. They made it without killing each other. I'll keep an eye out for your Lavender Limo. Tim RAGBRAI is going to be flat and short this year, so we hope to ride the Tandem for the first

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-01-30 Thread Michael Hechmer
As has been pointed out having the stoker coast is only possible only the DaVinci independent coasting system. OK I guess, and many people like it but I wouldn't recommend it. Do a lot of research before you buy because a lot of what you take for granted about riding a single is not

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-01-30 Thread Michael
Wow! I didn't know tandemming was so complex. I really don't know anything about them and thought the two could just hop on and ride. Definitely sounds like research for this project will be needed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-01-30 Thread Philip Williamson
In the SF Bay Area, there are a couple (a few?) Ibis tandems on Craigslist right now. And some cheaper Santana ones. A cool old British one. Maryland looks a little bleaker: http://baltimore.craigslist.org/bik/4272347660.html http://delaware.craigslist.org/bik/4295097541.html Philip

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-01-30 Thread Michael
Wow! I didn't know tandemming was so complex. I really don't know anything about them and thought the two could just hop on and ride. Definitely sounds like research for this project will be needed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-01-30 Thread Eunice Chang
As a stoker, I have to chime in. I've tried like 5-6 different tandems and here's what I know: It does make a difference in how fast you want to go- the lightest frame will go very fast. However- you really have to check your brakes because when you go downhill on a tandem, you go much, much

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-01-30 Thread Michael
Thanks, Eunice! Stokercam is really cool. Fun pics! Thanks for the info. I live in Ellicott City, Maryland and I know where Mt. Airy Bikes is. I have only been there once though, but not inside. My wife is a 5'3, 11mph, casual commuter, and I thought it would be fun to bring her along for