[RBW] Re: Why does my silver shifter become loose?

2014-08-18 Thread jphillip...@icloud.com
Hi everyone, It seems to me the original poster, grrlyrida, just needed a helpful, Remember, you will need to check and maybe tighten your shifters on a (regular basis or every 50 miles or once a week or...and this is how you do it yourself:... :) I think what may have been missed

Re: [RBW] Re: Why does my silver shifter become loose?

2014-08-18 Thread Goshen Peter
color me confused, why would your body weight make the shifters slip more? more torsion on the frame when pedaling? On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 1:20 PM, jphillip...@icloud.com jphillip...@icloud.com wrote: Hi everyone, It seems to me the original poster, grrlyrida, just needed a helpful,

Re: [RBW] Re: Why does my silver shifter become loose?

2014-08-18 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/18/2014 10:47 AM, Goshen Peter wrote: color me confused, why would your body weight make the shifters slip more? more torsion on the frame when pedaling? Me too. I should think torsion on the frame would be more related to rider strength than weight. -- You received this message

Re: [RBW] Re: Why does my silver shifter become loose?

2014-08-18 Thread Johnny Alien
I believe it has more to do with frame size and length of cable then the weight of the rider. On Monday, August 18, 2014 10:47:52 AM UTC-4, Peter M wrote: color me confused, why would your body weight make the shifters slip more? more torsion on the frame when pedaling? -- You received

Re: [RBW] Re: Why does my silver shifter become loose?

2014-08-18 Thread Goshen Peter
So if someone was on a 52 Sam and weighed 300 they should be ok, right? I think frame size probably matters alot more than rider weight. Maybe Grant was assuming we all have proportional height and weight, oh if only, hahaha. On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net

Re: [RBW] Re: Why does my silver shifter become loose?

2014-08-18 Thread Curtis McKenzie
On my 67 AHH I just fiddle with and gently tighten the wing nut as I am riding along. On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Goshen Peter uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: So if someone was on a 52 Sam and weighed 300 they should be ok, right? I think frame size probably matters alot more than rider

Re: [RBW] Re: Why does my silver shifter become loose?

2014-08-18 Thread Steve Palincsar
Why would a longer cable slip more? Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: I believe it has more to do with frame size and length of cable then the weight of the rider. On Monday, August 18, 2014 10:47:52 AM UTC-4, Peter M wrote: color me confused, why would your body weight make the

Re: [RBW] Re: Why does my silver shifter become loose?

2014-08-18 Thread Joe Hogg
On 08/18/2014 12:01 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: Why would a longer cable slip more? Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: I believe it has more to do with frame size and length of cable then the weight of the rider. On Monday, August 18, 2014 10:47:52 AM UTC-4,

Re: [RBW] Re: Why does my silver shifter become loose?

2014-08-18 Thread Goshen Peter
So, cables stretch every time they are used so wouldn't some high quality cabling/housing help the issue then? if that even is the issue. On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Joe Hogg joseph.h...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/18/2014 12:01 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: Why would a longer cable slip more?

Re: [RBW] Re: Why does my silver shifter become loose?

2014-08-18 Thread Steve Palincsar
Cables clearly do not stretch every time they are used. Otherwise we would be constantly be adjusting index shifting cables instead of once or twice a year. Goshen Peter uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: So, cables stretch every time they are used so wouldn't some high quality cabling/housing

[RBW] Re: Why does my silver shifter become loose?

2014-08-17 Thread Andrew Marchant-Shapiro
Rougher? Having used both the 600s and silvers, I must disagree with the esteemed Grant P. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Why does my silver shifter become loose?

2014-08-17 Thread Bill Lindsay
Grant isn't talking about your pre-indexed 600s, Andrew. He's most certainly not denigrating your 1985 600s (Arabesque!). Grant is talking about today's current alternative to Silvers from Riv, which is Shimano barcons. Shimano Barcons have a texture to them in friction mode, a little

[RBW] Re: Why does my silver shifter become loose?

2014-08-17 Thread Andrew Marchant-Shapiro
Heh. Mine are the plain version, not the Arabesque, but yeah, I see. I have run 8s Shimano barcons, and didn't notice any roughness there, nor with 8s or 9s Shimano DT shifters, but they may have changed. Funny, I remember when I bought my first new bike after five years off (this would

[RBW] Re: Why does my silver shifter become loose?

2014-08-16 Thread Johnny Alien
I am not sure why they do it but I have found that my left one will loosen quicker than the right as well. I just get in the habit of tightening them up a little (or at least checking them) before I heard out on the bike. No reason to hold th arm up while riding just stop and tighten it up a

[RBW] Re: Why does my silver shifter become loose?

2014-08-16 Thread lungimsam
Friction shifting requires snugging of the bolt from time to time. I usually snug them about once every week or two, something like that. I don't think about it or make a point of it. I just reach over and snug whenever the notion pops into my head, or the rear shifting gets funny. They stay

[RBW] Re: Why does my silver shifter become loose?

2014-08-16 Thread Kyle Brooks
A little beeswax on the screw might help. You might also look at that little nylon bushing that sit just under the screw -- those will sometimes crack, which I think could exacerbate the loosening problem (those are replaceable, and available). Kyle Brooks Akron, OH On Saturday, August 16,

[RBW] Re: Why does my silver shifter become loose?

2014-08-16 Thread Andrew Marchant-Shapiro
Interesting. My Shimano 600 (last generation of pure friction) DT shifters never require this... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Why does my silver shifter become loose?

2014-08-16 Thread lungimsam
See here at 1:10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Drh4PHMQwKI -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

[RBW] Re: Why does my silver shifter become loose?

2014-08-16 Thread Zack
Beeswax most definitely helps. I have also found that the Microshift front derailer and the silver shifters make a bad combination for this, as the spring that tensions that particular FD is incredibly strong, which puts a lot more stress on the shifter. Just my experience, I am not a

[RBW] Re: Why does my silver shifter become loose?

2014-08-16 Thread lungimsam
Which micro shift derailer model? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

[RBW] Re: Why does my silver shifter become loose?

2014-08-16 Thread grrlyrida
Thanks for the video. I should have looked at it before posting, well if I knew it existed. How did I miss that one?! I admit I'm no mechanic. I'm learning a lot about silver shifters. Thanks everyone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: Why does my silver shifter become loose?

2014-08-16 Thread grant
I think this has already been said---I haven't read so, but it must have been and I hope it has: If the lever stays in position, the gear will, too (because the derailer can't move if the lever doesn't). The lever is mechanically helped to stay put because of the ratchet inside---and this is,