[RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?

2015-08-11 Thread William deRosset
Dear Sam, 1. No. 2. yes, or the gearing consistent with a 30T rear cog, anyway. 3. yes, but why do that to yourself unless you're looking to make a half-step system work well, esp. given that 8s cassettes fit your rivendell freehub anyway, and they're easy to friction shift? Or, if you're

Re: [RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?

2015-08-11 Thread Steve Palincsar
And if that's your intention, the 7-speed K cassette (13-34) half-steps with 44/48 chain rings. On 08/11/2015 02:07 PM, William deRosset wrote: 3. yes, but why do that to yourself unless you're looking to make a half-step system work well, esp. given that 8s cassettes fit your rivendell

Re: [RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?

2015-08-11 Thread Jim Bronson
I like to go where the mass market is, because it's where there's the highest efficiency of scale and least expensive parts. For me at the moment, that means 9 speed. 8 speed is not any less expensive, so I'll take the higher cog count. 7 speed is rarer these days, and rare doesn't meet my

Re: [RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?

2015-08-10 Thread Matthew J
Does Phil Wood still make a freewheel hub? Royce still makes an FW Hub http://www.royceuk.co.uk/Rear-Hub-Screw-On-for-Single-Speed-or-Gear-Block.html. Definitely as good if not better than Phil Priced around the same. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?

2015-08-10 Thread Steve Palincsar
For pictures more info on this cassette: http://blog.jonesbikes.com/6-speed-cassettes/ On 08/10/2015 10:53 AM, Matthew J wrote: Jeff Jones of Jones Bike a while back modified 9 speed cassettes into 6 speed that in turn could be used with single speed Chris King and similar MTB hubs. Meaning

Re: [RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?

2015-08-10 Thread Garth
Ah shucks . . . lol . . . for SS only and not in 135mm length though . Paul however does ! The Jono hub, it's 32 hole only though . http://www.paulcomp.com/jonohub.html *What makes the Jono Hub unique is its quick-release axle which features changeable end caps. This system allows the

[RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?

2015-08-10 Thread Will
I agree. I'd be happy with 7, or 6, or 5. Segmenting further makes sense if you are riding a pace-line with the club, but fror recreational, or commuting cycling, not so much. It would be wonderful to go back to less complex, intelligently spaced, cassettes. This new business of 1x11 suggests

[RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?

2015-08-10 Thread Garth
Yes Will , I see no reason why this cannot be done . FW , CS , internal hubs . . . it's all good ! There are so many bicycles worldwide no one knows . There's always the cutting edge for those that want it, but many people have had enough of upgrade-itis . We want permanence ,

[RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?

2015-08-10 Thread Matthew J
Jeff Jones of Jones Bike a while back modified 9 speed cassettes into 6 speed that in turn could be used with single speed Chris King and similar MTB hubs. Meaning you can build a dishless rear wheel that nonetheless offers a range of gears. Paired my Jones cassette with a single 44 up front

[RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?

2015-08-10 Thread Matthew J
Marketing . . .. hmmm . Doesn't matter how a product is marketed if at all. * Build it and they will come .* Yep. ... literally out-of-the-cornfield ! I would certainly be interested in a lighter Rohloff with less gear range. Just I think much of the market for that hub is looking for

Re: [RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?

2015-08-10 Thread Patrick Moore
I know that Jan found a new Rohloff to have considerable drag in at least certain gears. Can anyone say how the drag compares to a good derailleur setup, once the hub's inwards have been worn in? I too think that a lighter, perhaps lower-drag, Rohloff quality internal gear hub would be worth a $K

[RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?

2015-08-10 Thread Scott G.
My Atlantis in roadie mode had a 12-23 cassette, but with a TA Zephyr 46/34/22 rings. Remember Campy triples ?, ahhh micro ratchet front shifters. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?

2015-08-10 Thread Will
I am remembering one of my favorite bikes... a Raleigh Super Tourer (1976). It was a Raleigh Competition frame, with upright North Road bars, a 5 ring cluster in the rear, no front der... a delightful town cruiser: 531 double butted, fast, nimble, fun. It came w/ 5 and 10 speed options. 10

Re: [RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?

2015-08-10 Thread Matthew J
Thanks Steve. When I first saw the link got all excited only to realize the linked blog entry is from 2012. Jeff mentions the longer Shimano limit screw he would send out with the cassette. I use an original Deer Head Deore rear derailer with mine. No problem with it shifting into the

[RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?

2015-08-10 Thread Matthew J
Actually, I'd be happy with a 5 speed internal hub. Imagine it would be hard to market, but I imagine a modern Rohloff or Alfine quality IGH with the weight savings of 5 speeds. On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 10:23:01 AM UTC-5, Will wrote: I agree. I'd be happy with 7, or 6, or 5.

[RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?

2015-08-10 Thread rob markwardt
I'm still stuck in the 70's on half my bikes. My Hetchins is 48/36 with a 14-28 5 speed freewheel in back...love riding this bike. My Paramount has what I consider my favorite gear combo49/44/28 with a 14-30 5 speed in back. With the half-step gearing I can get any gear needed including

[RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?

2015-08-10 Thread Garth
My take on all parts bicycle is that if you have it or it's available , it's as current as current can be . The orignal lightbulb still burns in a California firehouse . It's as it ever was . Time and date are but myths . There's nothing to count but counting itself ! -- You

Re: [RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?

2015-08-10 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/10/2015 08:27 AM, Garth wrote: Also , if you really want to run 5 or 6 speeds, I'd recommend a dedicated FW hub and have a wheel built. Phil Wood has both 6 and 7 speed FW hubs. I use a 6 on my 7 on one bike , 7 on the other. You can still get decent albeit lower end Shimano

Re: [RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?

2015-08-10 Thread Garth
Yep Steve, scroll down their hub page a bit , it'll say : Phil Wood offers the following types of hub: - ROAD, freewheel and cassette rear options - TOURING, freewheel and cassette rear options - TANDEM, 6-bolt disc brake and drum brake options - MOUNTAIN, standard and 6-bolt

[RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?

2015-08-10 Thread Ron Mc
ps, '77 Raleighs came with a 14-35t 5-speed, and I hated the thing because every step was a cliff. My first rebuild ('79) was around a Zeus/Rigida wheelset with a 14-26t 5-speed, and I liked it much better 2. Was anyone riding 30+t cogs back in the day? Seems like sub30 was the standard.

[RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?

2015-08-10 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
I'm with Patrick in that I prefer single-tooth jumps in my cruising range but I also prefer a wide gear range and a 1x drivetrain so that pretty much requires a 9-speed or higher cog. On Sunday, August 9, 2015 at 11:35:14 PM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote: For those of you who rode back on the

[RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?

2015-08-10 Thread Garth
Also , if you really want to run 5 or 6 speeds, I'd recommend a dedicated FW hub and have a wheel built. Phil Wood has both 6 and 7 speed FW hubs. I use a 6 on my 7 on one bike , 7 on the other. You can still get decent albeit lower end Shimano 14-28 6sp FW's for under $15. IRD also

[RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?

2015-08-10 Thread Garth
1. and 2. 5 speed ? Maybe , but 6 , definitely. I like others here still recall when 5 and 6 speed was the normal freewheel . I never felt out of gears then , nor today. I have right now on my Bombadil a Sachs 13-28 6-speed FW with a 24/36/48 crank. Even with some the steep hills around

[RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?

2015-08-09 Thread Joe Bernard
I don't know about sub-30, but a 5-speed with a good range would be fine in the hilly area I live. I tend to skip cogs on 8- and 9-speed cassettes because the small jumps are useless to me. On Sunday, August 9, 2015 at 9:35:14 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote: For those of you who rode back on the