Seller stresses in the ad that its a pre-production bike--I wonder, given
the color and overall look if its a Prototype or precursor of the Atlantis,
or a transitional test mule between the longlow and the Atlantis. The add
is a little be schizophrenic to me--seller stresses its uniqueness,
While we're strolling down memory lane, I find it ironic that when Grant
transitioned from Waterford to Joe S (and Curt G and other individual
builders), he had to make a pretty hard sell. I think back then, many
people, myself included, saw Waterford as the established and having the
best
I think what a lot of us who were following didn't know at the time was that
the frames called Rivendell were moving up to a higher level. During and before
the switch away from Waterford for the frames called Rivendell, the frames were
not called custom. In hindsight, it is easy to see the
Thomas --
I have a '99 59 cm LongLow made for side/center-pull brakes. Others on this
list will know better than I do, but I think pre-production means that the
frames were made in standard sizes/configurations (not custom) but not
necessarily in runs of sizes as they were later by the Toyo
This an Atlantis, look at the picture.
They have been trying this for a while.
Tom Dusky
Huntington Woods MI
On Nov 10, 8:09 am, Forrest ftme...@me.com wrote:
Thomas --
I have a '99 59 cm LongLow made for side/center-pull brakes. Others on this
list will know better than I do, but I think
Thomas B,
It looks like others have you covered/warned on this particular
listing. Why don't we change the subject and talk about what you're
looking for? We can help you pick out a current Rivendell model or
guide you to a known seller if you give us some more info on the type
of bike you are
On Nov 9, 11:40 pm, Thomas B darcyspeedobot...@gmail.com wrote:
I wanted to get some advice on a recent posting for a +10 year old
Long Low advertised on Bay area Craigslist.
If the Long Low was priced right, it would have sold by now with the
multiple postings. Have you seen the Bleriot on SF
If you're interested and local, why not go take a look at it?
I was following Riv very closely in the late 90s to early 2000s, much more
so than I do now, and there is nothing in the ad (or the fact that it's
been up and down so many times) to suggest that there is something wrong
with the
Most of the time that's evidence of something being priced wrong or
something _else_ being wrong which is scaring off other buyers.
The people searching Craigslist are looking for something for
nothing. Prices of 10+ years ago have no bearing on today's value.
What do you think that $1,100
Thanks for the discussion. I am going to go give it a test ride
today.
To answer earlier threads, this would be my first 'good' bike. Using
it for commuting (14 mile RT) with a big hill in the EBay. But my hope
is to ride around the hills near my house on weekends as well.
I've been seriously
Look at the color.
The canti long-lows were called all all-arounders.
It sure looks like an Atlantis, just like mine
Unless it was a pre production Atlantis.
Tom Dusky
owner of 61cm atlantis just like the photo
Huntington Woods, MI
On Nov 10, 11:35 am, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:
It
On Nov 10, 2011, at 12:35 PM, SISDDWG wrote:
The people searching Craigslist are looking for something for nothing.
grumpMy observation is that the sellers on Craigslist tend to vastly
overestimate the value of their stuff they want to flog. Calling it vintage
adds about 50%. I look at
The comparison with custom is the big stretch. That listing says A custom
Rivendell costs $3000 and you have to wait a year and uses those facts to
claim the value of his Rivendell. That's simply absurd
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On Nov 10, 2011, at 1:00 PM, tdusky wrote:
The canti long-lows were called all all-arounders.
I have a 1996 All-Rounder and it is not the same bike as a Long-Low. The
original All-Rounders were all 26 wheel bikes with cantis and were based on
the ideas behind the Bridgestone XO-1. It was
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The canti long-lows were called all all-arounders.
This is not correct. The All-Rounder and the Longlow were two different frames
with two different geometries. The All-Rounder was closer to proper touring
The bike in the picture sure LOOKS like an Atlantis to me...
On another point that was brought up: As far as I know, Atlantises have
always had the 26/700C split between 56 cm and 58 cm frame sizes. We had a
very low serial-number 58 in here awhile back, and it was indeed 700c.
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Perhaps stating the obvious, but:
Just because it is that Atlantis color doesn't make it an Atlantis. I
doubt that the seller would call it a Long-Low if it says Atlantis on the
downtube. Atlantis was derived as a lower-cost A/R, built by Toyo in Japan
and intentionally given a different
We have a winner! Besides, that's not the Atlantis color.
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Good points, Greg. I've just tonight been going through some old RRs and
catalogues... confirmed I still have all from the first few years, and only
missing a couple of later issues (they must be around here somewhere!)
But this thread has been a trove of nuggets on the early years of Riv
frames.
On Jan 14, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Seth Vidal wrote:
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Phil Brown philcyc...@gmail.com wrote:
There is a Long Low prototype for sale here in the Bay Area. The owner
may post it later but for now contact me. It's 60 by 59 I believe,
green and white and if it had a bit
If it is the one I am thinking of, it also has a small dimple on the
top tube. Replace the tube and repaint it and then maybe $1K. Not sure
is this bike has anything more going for it than a new Waterford built
Sam...the price of which just got increased by Riv today.
On Jan 14, 2:23 pm, Tim
The photos are certainly of the whole bike, but the title clearly says
Frame Fork Only.
On Aug 30, 3:52 pm, Fai Mao i.am.fai@gmail.com wrote:
It looks like the whole bike so 1500 might be OK
I don't need another bike and the shipping would kill me anyway. Now, if it
were orange like the
Hope springs eternal, but that's a lot of money for a ten year old
frame set.
michael
On Aug 30, 5:26 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
I've seen this riv for sale for quite a while;
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/1926067572.html
I've got no particular interest in it but I'm
Here is a 2010 photo of a 1998 J.S. built Rivendell Long Low. The
chainstays were longer and the bottom bracket was lower than the Road
Std. This bike took me across the U.S.A. in 2007. Yes, It was
configured differently at that time. BTW the wheels were Mavic T520
laced to Phil Wood hubs 48 rear
It looks like the whole bike so 1500 might be OK
I don't need another bike and the shipping would kill me anyway. Now, if it
were orange like the newer Sam Hillbornes, then maybe I nibble.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:15 AM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote:
Hope springs eternal, but that's a
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