[RBW] Re: rack capacities

2013-03-01 Thread Ron Mc
there's statics and then there's dynamics. If you load up a sitting still rack, it will take a lot more than you would even imagine before it breaks. If the dynamics are great enough, it will break under a teacup. If you use a simple shock-loading approximation, everything weighs 10 times

Re: [RBW] Re: rack capacities

2013-03-01 Thread PATRICK MOORE
If Nitto racks are stronger than Tubuses, the are damned strong! Tubus has a reputation for the strength (and good design) of its racks. They are the only kind Wayne at TheTouringStoredotcom sells. On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 11:54 PM, gep71...@gmail.com wrote: Lesser racks are often rated higher,

[RBW] Re: rack capacities

2013-02-28 Thread Michael Hechmer
I can't make any sense out of these rack weight numbers. Rack weights are not calculated in lbs. A gallon of milk weighs 8 lbs., which is a lot for a mini front rack, but I wouldn't expect the rack to break. What are you telling us? On Thursday, February 28, 2013 11:37:52 AM UTC-5,

[RBW] Re: rack capacities

2013-02-28 Thread William
What Grant is telling us is: If you are running the Mark's Rack, try hard to keep the weight of the cargo on the mark's rack to 4.4 lbs or less. If you are running the Nitto Mini front rack, try hard to keep the weight of the cargo on the Mini Front Rack to 13 lbs or less. If you are running

Re: [RBW] Re: rack capacities

2013-02-28 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I've not owned a Nitto rack, so these numbers come as a surprise -- very low. The Tubus Fly, all 11 oz of it, and its silver brother, are rated for 18 kg/40 lb; the Logo for 40 kg/88 lb, and the Duo front for 33 lb. Hell, I've carried 35+ on a Pletscher, but it wasn't pretty. On Thu, Feb 28,

Re: [RBW] Re: rack capacities

2013-02-28 Thread Jim Mather
I'm surprised by those numbers too. I used a medium Wald zip-tied to a Mark's rack for regular loads of 10 to 15 pounds (e.g., a gallon of milk plus other stuff) and never had an issue. jim m wc ca On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 3:55 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I've not owned a Nitto

Re: [RBW] Re: rack capacities

2013-02-28 Thread PATRICK MOORE
FWIW, I carried home 21+lb in my Sackville Medium today -- had to lash the overlflow with ropes made from extra plastic grocery bags. On a more calorie dense grocery run I managed to stuff 25 lb into it without overflow. (Again, FWIW: In order of hugeness and grocery swallering ability, this per

Re: [RBW] Re: rack capacities

2013-02-28 Thread Philip Williamson
...had to lash the overlflow with ropes made from extra plastic grocery bags. Okay, that's genius. I'm going to go home and make a rope of grocery bags. Philip www.biketinker.com On Thursday, February 28, 2013 4:11:47 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: FWIW, I carried home 21+lb in my Sackville

Re: [RBW] Re: rack capacities

2013-02-28 Thread dougP
Remember that Grant said Nitto is conservative. I've seen $20 aluminum el-crappo racks at bike shops that are rated to 40 lbs. A rack like that may make it home from the grocery store with 40 lbs. Hook a couple of 20 lb panniers to it go touring for a few weeks. It may survive it may

Re: [RBW] Re: rack capacities

2013-02-28 Thread Leslie
Conservative or not: Nitto has published allowable loads, and when people go beyond said loads, Nitto nor anyone who has sold something from Nitto, would want to incur liability because of said excessive loads. So, respect the loads. If you choose to go beyond them, don't 'flaunt' or

Re: [RBW] Re: rack capacities

2013-02-28 Thread Ryan Ray
Do fender eyelets have a weight limit? I have a tubus rated at 80lbs but I can't imagine 80lbs on those tiny eyelets. - Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] Re: rack capacities

2013-02-28 Thread gep71154
Lesser racks are often rated higher, but a higher rating doesn't make them stronger, it just means the ratings are less conservative. Tubus racks are great...I have used them, I totally trust them, but they are much thinner than Nitto racks (lighter tubing), and they are not triangulated at the