Thanks for getting back to me.
On Sun, Jul 21, 2024, 10:30 AM Chuck Blessing wrote:
> It is a 26.8 on the Sam Hillborne I just received from this latest batch.
>
> On Sunday, July 21, 2024 at 6:54:19 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>
>> My 1st Sam was 27.2, my second was 26.8. Pretty sure that the curre
It is a 26.8 on the Sam Hillborne I just received from this latest batch.
On Sunday, July 21, 2024 at 6:54:19 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
> My 1st Sam was 27.2, my second was 26.8. Pretty sure that the current
> models are 26.8.
>
> Laing Conley
>
> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 10:08 AM Ron Cramer wrot
My 1st Sam was 27.2, my second was 26.8. Pretty sure that the current
models are 26.8.
Laing Conley
On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 10:08 AM Ron Cramer
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> It is probably on the website and I missed it. What seatpost on the new
> Sam Hillborne: 26.8 or 27.2?
> Thanks
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It is probably on the website and I missed it. What seatpost on the new Sam
Hillborne: 26.8 or 27.2?
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Very helpful - thanks!Ted DurantMilwaukee, WIOn Jul 10, 2024, at 6:46 PM, Brian Watts wrote:Riv built mine a VBC cranks as well and they used 60x122.5, my white industr bracket wasn’t enough either. On Wednesday, July 10, 2024 at 10:28:11 AM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:I'd like to hear from others on
Riv built mine a VBC cranks as well and they used 60x122.5, my white
industr bracket wasn’t enough either.
On Wednesday, July 10, 2024 at 10:28:11 AM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:
> I'd like to hear from others on what BB and crank you are using on your
> new Sam. The BB that comes with it is a Shim
I'd like to hear from others on what BB and crank you are using on your new
Sam. The BB that comes with it is a Shimano 110mm. I installed a Phil 113mm
and found that my White Industries crank (VBC, 44/32) is a no-go. The inner
ring bolts hit the chain stay well before the crank is tightened. It
Ha! Guilty. Gotta keep the feet cool down here in these Atlanta summers.
I love my RH tires, would definitely get these again for the Sam!
On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 3:52:15 PM UTC-4 John Bokman wrote:
> Great looking clearance there, Drew. Bedrocks?
>
> -John
>
> On Jul 7, 2024, at 12:49 PM, D
Outstanding dirt diggers! I was absolutely amazed and what I could handle (and
had to handle!) on trail. I did not want for more tire, that’s for sure; only
more nerve.
> On Jul 7, 2024, at 11:51 AM, Keith Paugh wrote:
>
> I have those Rock n Roads, and feel the same.
> I even like them on pa
I have those Rock n Roads, and feel the same. I even like them on pavement, as far as knobbies go.Smooth and quiet.Good looking tire mounted. Great dirt digger.k.On Jul 7, 2024, at 11:11 AM, John Bokman wrote:At the chainstays:On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 10:33:04 AM UTC-7 John Bokman wrote:Long st
Gorgeous Brent! Thanks for sharing. (I reluctantly opted out of this round
since I already have a 2017 Sam, but I was mighty tempted!)
> On Jun 23, 2024, at 12:52 PM, Brent Knepper wrote:
>
> my p-winkle sam showed up friday, hoping to have it built by next weekend ◡̈
> ◡̈ ◡̈ teaser pic from
Ted, I always like the way you have your Sams appointed. I am eager to see
your setup when you feel willing and able to grace us with some photos of
the Periwinkle.
John
Portland, OR
On Saturday, June 22, 2024 at 11:06:21 AM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:
> While I'm measuring things ... I stuck a pa
While I'm measuring things ... I stuck a pair of 700c wheels on it and I
was temporarily excited when I found the rear rim was 57mm from the brake
mounting hole. Perfect for a set of medium-reach caliper brakes! Alas, at
the front it's barely 40mm at the front of the fork crown, so much less
th
Thanks, Ted,
That is helpful.
What I'm learning is that not only does the Sam have the same effective
geometry as my Gordon BLT, it also has the same frame weight. Your fork is
a little lighter; mine was 970 g with the race installed; the frame (size
52, more like a 57 Sam) weighed just unde
> On Jun 21, 2024, at 5:16 PM, Michael Connors
> wrote:
>
> Mine also had a bottom bracket installed
Good point - I should have clarified that I removed the bottom bracket that
came with it, so the weight I gave is without the BB.
Ted Durant
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On Friday, June 21, 2024 at 1:33:38 PM UTC-5 Ted Durant wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 12, 2024 at 7:22:33 AM UTC-5 Mathias Steiner wrote:
>
> I'd like to renew my request for kitchen scale frame and fork weights from
> recipients of Sam Hillborne frames.
>
On Wednesday, June 12, 2024 at 7:22:33 AM UTC-5 Mathias Steiner wrote:
I'd like to renew my request for kitchen scale frame and fork weights from
recipients of Sam Hillborne frames.
I wonder if they are as brutally stiff as my TIG'd tourer. I'm not even
sure that's a bad thing, but I'm curious.
Brenton, I may take you up on that!
I think the confusion for many lies in the fact that different year models have
different clearances. The 2017 (according to Riv) fits up to a 45mm tire, while
the more recent models (I assume your friend’s and senditsafely) can run
(according to Riv) a 47mm
Tim, thanks for the confirmation!
I would be using knobbies for an upcoming trip. My hope would be to use the
Rene Herse Manastash tires, which purportedly are 44mm wide on the Dyad rim
width. Alternatively, I could use the Hurricanes at 42mm. All things equal I’d
rather get the fatter meats in
Hi Ted,
>> stiffer...on the stiff-ish side more springy and like a limp
noodle
Thanks for your exhaustive and highly quantitative analysis :)
>> like a limp noodle compared to the Cheviot.
A diamond frame really does not do much flexing, at least vertically.. it
is amazing to me h
On Wednesday, June 12, 2024 at 7:22:33 AM UTC-5 Mathias Steiner wrote:
I'd like to renew my request for kitchen scale frame and fork weights from
recipients of Sam Hillborne frames.
I wonder if they are as brutally stiff as my TIG'd tourer. I'm not even
sure that's a bad thing, but I'm curious.
I'd like to renew my request for kitchen scale frame and fork weights from
recipients of Sam Hillborne frames.
I wonder if they are as brutally stiff as my TIG'd tourer. I'm not even
sure that's a bad thing, but I'm curious.
JP:
I'm full up with bikes so I resisted, but the bronzey green Sams lo
SO SO bummed I missed out on the 54s. These really hit the sweet spot on
the Riv ruler for me.
On Tuesday, June 11, 2024 at 8:46:29 PM UTC-6 MoVelo wrote:
> I'm getting the bronzy green version Sam and am pretty excited. Moving
> most of the parts from my Bridgestone T700 over which are mostly
I'm getting the bronzy green version Sam and am pretty excited. Moving most
of the parts from my Bridgestone T700 over which are mostly classic silver
finish. I've been researching traditional Rivendell elf costumes and color
schemes for some inspiration for *accoutrements and could use help and
On Tuesday, June 11, 2024 at 10:32:15 AM UTC-5 Mathias Steiner wrote:
Nay.
It looks great, but a roll top has no place on a handlebar bag.
Well, I was asking more about aesthetics than about functionality. I have a
few different handlebar bags with conventional rear-opening tops and I am
prett
On the other hand, a roll top is a very good method for keeping the
elements out of a bag, and if you are otherwise running something like a
basket with a cargo net then you are undoubtedly used to not accessing your
stuff while riding. In such cases there are indeed times when a roll top
has a
Nay.
It looks great, but a roll top has no place on a handlebar bag.
On Tuesday, June 11, 2024 at 10:29:16 AM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote:
> On Monday, May 20, 2024 at 3:15:50 PM UTC-5 Ted Durant wrote:
>
> For those who are getting a Periwinkle Sam ... what color combos are you
> planning for your b
I’m trying to come up with my color palette for a Peri-Sam as well.
Anodized silver hub (rear)w Son front; matte silver quill rims, polished
touring cantis (currently w pink and purple nuts), white VBC cranks
(polished arms, black rings, may pick new crank cap color).
May wait to choose colors
For those who are getting a Periwinkle Sam ... what color combos are you
planning for your build?
I've ordered a purple Funky Monkey front cable hanger from Paul. Not sure
it's going to be a good match. I have Phil Wood blue bottom bracket dust
caps ... they'll probably match okay, not sure. Th
Congrats to everyone on snagging a Sam, very capable and fun bikes!
On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 12:41:03 PM UTC-4 watta...@gmail.com wrote:
> Happily secured a 54 Peri-Sam at 12:01 yesterday🙌🏼. I’m thinking Quill
> rims to have tubeless as an option. Recs on dynamo hubs? I’ve had a Son hub
>
Happily secured a 54 Peri-Sam at 12:01 yesterday🙌🏼. I’m thinking Quill
rims to have tubeless as an option. Recs on dynamo hubs? I’ve had a Son hub
w edelux light but would entertain a cheaper hub option but will stick w
Edelux lights…it’s so good.
On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 6:52:32 AM UTC-7
Yay, 54 Periwinkle right at 12:01🤪
On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 12:06:38 PM UTC-7 Michael wrote:
> 57 Green here
>
> On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 3:02:30 PM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote:
>
>>
>> Done. 51cm Periwinkle for my 3rd Sam. If people think I'm being piggy
>> I'll consider letting it go.
>>
Love that color! It’s in my size too!
On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 1:42:19 PM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:
> On May 15, 2024, at 3:15 PM, reeb wrote:
>
> almost pulled the trigger but hesitant about sizing! at 80 PBH, should i
> be going for the 48 or 51 for casual city rides with maybe once a mont
Thanks Ted!
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 16, 2024, at 8:42 AM, Ted Durant wrote:
>
>
>> On May 16, 2024, at 7:43 AM, Andrew Joseph wrote:
>>
>> Can any Sam owner out there confirm there is tire clearance for BG Rock ‘n
>> Road 48s? My Sam is from the previous run…
>>
>
> --
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Can any Sam owner out there confirm there is tire clearance for BG Rock ‘n Road 48s? My Sam is from the previous run…Sent from my iPhoneOn May 15, 2024, at 3:42 PM, Ted Durant wrote:On May 15, 2024, at 3:15 PM, reeb wrote:almost pulled the trigger but hesitant about sizing! at 80 PBH, should i
almost pulled the trigger but hesitant about sizing! at 80 PBH, should i be
going for the 48 or 51 for casual city rides with maybe once a month
camping treks (most likely upright bars)?
On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 3:06:38 PM UTC-4 Michael wrote:
> 57 Green here
>
> On Wednesday, May 15, 202
57 Green here
On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 3:02:30 PM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote:
>
> Done. 51cm Periwinkle for my 3rd Sam. If people think I'm being piggy I'll
> consider letting it go.
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee, WI USA
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Done. 51cm Periwinkle for my 3rd Sam. If people think I'm being piggy I'll
consider letting it go.
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> On May 15, 2024, at 1:42 PM, Doug H. wrote:
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> We are almost to 3:00 PM PST. Who is watching the clock and ready to buy a
> Sam Hillborne?
This almost has the feel of a Bring A Trailer auction ….
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> On May 14, 2024, at 9:04 PM, Mathias Steiner
> wrote:
>
> I'd love to hear informed opinions on the Sam. Does anybody use one on
> brevets?
I have two Sams from the last batch. Previously I have had a Bleriot, which is
similar to the Sam. I rode the Bleriot on several very long rides, up t
New to Rivendell bikes and looking to snag a sam; will most likely use
albastache or albatross bars, possibly road but not initially. PBH is 88
and im thinking size 57. What is your experience?
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>> inline barrel adjuster [..]
This past weekend, I put a parts-bin XT rear derailleur and Suntour
clamp-on cable stops on my Trek 710.
At first I thought I'd lost the derailleur's barrel adjuster, but when I
tried to install a replacement, I found there are no threads. Which means I
have no
Even with integrated shifters, the down-tube bosses give you a perfect spot
for an inline barrel adjuster so you can tweak your indexing while riding.
They are great to have on any bike.
BL in EC
On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 8:37:46 AM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 9:
On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 9:36:27 AM UTC-5 drew.jo...@gmail.com wrote:
I would add that I love the very quiet update to the Sam.
I like the option of running downtube shifters on the new models.
Those are some sharp eyes - thanks for pointing that out! I like that
option, too. Though if I
I would add that I love the very quiet update to the Sam. I like the option of running downtube shifters on the new models.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 14, 2024, at 9:05 AM, Andrew Joseph wrote:Thank you Doug!Hmmm. Saddle, seat post, stem, tires, bars, and maybe pedals will all be replaced.Fresh ta
Thank you Doug!Hmmm. Saddle, seat post, stem, tires, bars, and maybe pedals will all be replaced.Fresh tape/twine, moon units, cable cherries, and then off in the sunset we go…Thanks to the members providing helpful feedback already. Best, DrewSent from my iPhoneOn May 14, 2024, at 8:47 AM, Doug
Andrew,
That's a great looking build. The silver is classic and I like the black
and silver parts together. Nice wheelset too. What parts are you changing?
Doug
On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 9:19:41 AM UTC-4 Andrew Joseph wrote:
> Doug,
>
> Not one of the new colors. But excited that I could pick
I like the colors coming this go-round. The Sam seems like the perfect
all-rounder and I would get one had I not just bought a Roadini. Who's
planning to get a Sam Hillborne?
Doug
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It is fun to see the variety of builds on the Sam's.
It looks like the majority have some type of upright / swept back style
handlebarsalthough of course the Sam is so versatile to accommodate a road bar
if preferred .
If recalling correctly I saw orange, silver, light blue , green, black and a
Trying to convince myself to start riding brevet I've been taking in all
the PBP 2023 suggestions from youtube the last few weeks and stumbled onto
video of a rider who finished the event on a double top tube Sam Hillborne.
Not a lot of footage of the bike in PBP vid but having a look at his ot
On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 5:03:27 PM UTC-4 divis...@gmail.com wrote:
Busch & Muller make a fork crown mount specifically for cantis;
Thanks, I've considered that. Peter White's site is invaluable for browsing
the art of the possible with lights and mounts. I like the brass extension,
tho
Busch & Muller make a fork crown mount specifically for cantis; it's made
of the same stainless rod. Instead of going upwards like the standard B&M
mount you have now, it drops down about 1 cm below the brake hole to dip
under the straddle; not great for fenders, but an LA bike can probably live
Good job Jake.It turned out very very nice?
Congratulations and welcome to the Sam club!
How do you like riding it?
Ted, your Sam also looks terrific and
Wow, that bar bar tape is stellar!
Paul in Dallas
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> On Mar 8, 2023, at 7:47 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I can't read the size on those Gravel Kings; what diameter/width, please?
>
48-584
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The brass bits are nice but if you just bend the original light mount a bit
it would fit under the straddle cable and do the job nicely.
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> On Mar 8, 2023, at 6:51 PM, brendonoid wrote:
>
> That light and bag aren't going to play well though, at best the Edelux will
> become a defacto bag support.
Yup. Going to have to work on that, either modifying the existing bracket or
switching to a shorty.
Ted Durant
Milwaukee, WI USA
> On Jan 15, 2023, at 7:06 PM, 'Slacky Mac'> wrote:
>
> Ted - that beautiful Lime Olive color almost had be buying two Sams! Yours
> will be really sharp with the brass. Please share some pics once done.
>
Hah! My other daughter lives in Maine and I have given some thought to building
a si
Ted - that beautiful Lime Olive color almost had be buying two Sams! Yours
will be really sharp with the brass. Please share some pics once done.
Eric - Good eye on the derailer! I admit I wanted the silver body more
than the low-normal function, but am excited to try it. I found the
housi
Looks like fun, Jake! Keep us posted ✌️
It's nice to see one of those old Nexave rapid risers going to use.
Where did you pick up that Nissen housing? I just used some on a build.
I think I have a royal blue safety triangle from Blue Lug, brand new. I'd
trade for that silver one if you're int
On Jan 14, 2023, at 7:37 AM, 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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If Vince knew any better, he would have talked me out of it.I've never
built a bike from (mostly) scratch before, and of course it had to be a
Riv. Gutsy. There may be other less flatterin
Sounds like a good plan. I hope those bars work out for you well.
Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.
On Sat, Jan 14, 2023, 8:38 AM 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> Hi Kim,
>
> Good eye! I'll try my Albatross bar that never worked with my RB-1 and
> replace the o
If you are unable to find Frame Saver, boiled linseed oil will work as well.
Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.
On Sat, Jan 14, 2023, 10:35 AM 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> Ping me your addy, and one spanking new Riv tealish-blue lugged bandana
> will be in th
Ping me your addy, and one spanking new Riv tealish-blue lugged bandana
will be in the mail. Frame Saver is a good idea. I have T-9, but I
believe Frame Saver is preferred.
On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 1:20:09 PM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:
> Yes! I would absolutely take a free banda
Yes! I would absolutely take a free bandana for funzies. Since you haven’t
started the build yet, you might consider some Frame Saver. Especially if
you’re anywhere near the sea (my Florida geography is quite limited but I
think I see the ocean).
It used to be owned by JP Weigle and is now sold un
Thanks Eliot -
If there was an award for box recognition, you would have won it! How
about a free bandana? The BB is on it's way from Riv, along with a S83
seat post to replace the stocker. I also could not resist the blue BB
cable guide - damn those guys. I am armed with grease, spray,
I’ll play this game. None of those boxes are shaped like a square taper
bottom bracket box.
Good luck! Reach out for help as needed. It’s much less intimidating than
it looks. Park tools has some excellent videos. Make sure you have some
good grease and cable cutters. Also feel free to watch the m
Hi Kim,
Good eye! I'll try my Albatross bar that never worked with my RB-1 and
replace the original drops. I feel like I will end up with something like
a Nitto X Crumbworks bar (I'm a distance motorcyclist - love the palms-down
hand position) but need to put some (s)miles on the Sam before f
Hey Jake,
Where are your handlebars ? ...or did I not see them in your picture ?
Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.
On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 7:41:21 AM UTC-8 Keith P. wrote:
> Looks amazing. Good luck!
>
> k.
>
> On Jan 14, 2023, at 7:37 AM, 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegro
How much more tire and fender clearance does the Canti version have
compared to say a Paul Racer side pull ?
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If anyone has one of the recent 57cm varieties, would you mind sharing the
standover in the middle of the top tube, along with your tire width? Just
curious. I searched for a geometry sheet but came up empty. Thanks.
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Fun to see the photos on here too!
On Saturday, October 2, 2021 at 10:09:11 AM UTC-7 kwi...@weimar.edu wrote:
> Lovely bicycle-- you could do just about any sort of ride with that set-up
> excluding technical single track!
>
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 12:01 PM Eric Marth wrote:
>
>> Thanks to a
Can someone measure their Sam and let me know the TT length? Just trying to
figure out the stem that I need for an upcoming build. The next Sam
shipment comes in August.
Thanks!
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In the not too distant past someone had posted images showing 48 mm Oracle
Ridge tires fitting a Sam (the version with the black paint and creme
highlights), wondering if said person might be able to report how well they
fit?
I'm interested in moving from my 43 mm Rock n' Roads to something a
https://bikeinsights.com/
This might be some help
Goin large on Rivendell bikes has always worked for me.
Howard
Livonia Mi
On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 12:49:27 PM UTC-4 will...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Wow, overwhelming amount of responses. Much appreciated all!
>
> I think that I will definitely
Wow, overwhelming amount of responses. Much appreciated all!
I think that I will definitely need the 55 or 54 (buying used so will
depend on what pops up) since I do plan to run upright bars of some kind.
Now just need to find one. This last weekend, there were at least 4x Sams
that went up fo
I should’ve mentioned the Bleriot is the older Rivendell geometry so it’s
more like what would be a 52 cm for the measurements today.
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 6:41 PM J S wrote:
> So that means 78.1 cm vs. 79.4.
>
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 6:37 PM J S wrote:
>
>> The standover of my 51cm Sam wi
So that means 78.1 cm vs. 79.4.
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 6:37 PM J S wrote:
> The standover of my 51cm Sam with 48mm Switchback Hill tires is about
> 30.75”. My PBH IS 80.6 so I have a bit of room. Mt 55 cm Bleriot with 42mm
> tires is a bit over 31.25” and is ok but tight. The TT on the Bler
The standover of my 51cm Sam with 48mm Switchback Hill tires is about
30.75”. My PBH IS 80.6 so I have a bit of room. Mt 55 cm Bleriot with 42mm
tires is a bit over 31.25” and is ok but tight. The TT on the Bleriot is
1cm shorter than the Sam so I use a stem that is 1cm less.
Hope this helps.
Will,
I'm 5'7" with an 83cm pbh. I've ridden Sams, but I own a 54.5 AHH and
would be less happy on a smaller bike (I'm like Maia--hey,
RivSister--bigger is better) However, the top tube is close!
Joel in this thread or another suggested getting someone to measure the
stand over of Sam. L
I'm 5'9" and have a PBH of 83cm. I spoke with Grant and Vince and they both
suggested a 51 AHH for me. I do ride in a city, so a lot of stops at
lights. The extra stand over does benefit the start and stop. YMMV.
On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 9:47:01 AM UTC-5 Robert Blunt wrote:
> I am 5' 9"
I am 5' 9" with a 79.5 pbh. I tried a 51 Sam with 650B wheels and it was
way to small. I have a 54 Sam with 700c wheels and the fit is almost dialed
in now with Ahearne map bars. The albatross bars had me too upright and I
didn't feel comfortable on the saddle. I have a 56 Bleriot which is pretty
d
I’m now 5’5”, used to be 5’7”. My 55 Bleriot is a tad larger (and tighter
but not too tight) than my 51cm Sam. My PBH is 80.6 (as close as I can
get). The 51 Sam is as big as I could go and I am using 48mm Rene Herse
tires (Switchback Hill) with no issues. The Bleriot has 42mm tires on it.
Will:
Don't forget that tire size will impact stand over height. For instance,
40 mm wide tires will be a bit smaller in diameter than 50 mm. Don't know
what the limit is for a Sam, but that is something to consider.
dougP
On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 6:52:07 PM UTC-7 aeroperf wrote:
> I’
I’m 5’ 9” (used to be 5’ 10”) and measured my PBH at 83. I measured it
again to be sure I was doing it right, then again a couple of weeks later.
Every bicycle I had from 1975 on was 700c. There was no way I was going to
go 650b. I ordered a Sam in 2015, and Will set me up with a 55 Cm frame
This is hilarious and you guys are awesome.
my PBH is indeed 83CM if I try to lift myself up off the ground. nd I
just found out I am more like 5' 9 & a 1/4".
sounds like I would just qualify for the 54cm Sam which is perfect.
w
On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 6:15:08 PM UTC-7 David Hays wrot
Will,
I second what Jason said.
I’m 5’ 71/2”. Maybe 5’8” on a good day with a tailwind.
I have a PBH of 83 and ride a 56cm Homer from the time they ran 650B.
I’m running Hetres and am quite comfortable with ‘space’ and fit.
Best.
David
Buffalo, NY
> On Apr 23, 2021, at 9:05 PM, J L wrote:
>
>
Will,
I expect you are going to get many of the same responses so i’ll keep mine
brief.
1) The PBH listings are guidelines. 82pbh should be fine on that bike.
2) Call Riv HQ and talk to them about your size concerns they are great to talk
to.
3) We are all built different and yet 82cm PBH at 5’
I am 5'11" on a good day. My PBH is 82CM.
I really want a Sam but am not overly enthusiastic about running 650B
wheels and tires. Would really prefer 700C. I have lots of parts on hand
and all of it is 700C.
The challenge is that the 54cm Sam they sell these days requires minimum
PBH of 83CM
Jim,
Before Riv started offering frames with 6 degree top tube upslope, the top tube
upslope was roughly 2 degrees. This was the Riv norm from 1994 until whenever
the Bombadil came along (’07, ’08?, I don’t remember the exact year.) Atlantis
had 2.5 degrees, AHH had 1.5 degrees, many other mod
Thanks. It’s 60cm alright. Cheers
> On Apr 17, 2021, at 2:19 PM, James Warren wrote:
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> Center of bottom bracket to top of seat lug
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>> On Apr 14, 2021, at 3:32 PM, Finnegan wrote:
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>> How can I tell the size of the Sam Hillborne frame? I don't see any size on
>> the paint anyw
Center of bottom bracket to top of seat lug
> On Apr 14, 2021, at 3:32 PM, Finnegan wrote:
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> How can I tell the size of the Sam Hillborne frame? I don't see any size on
> the paint anywhere, the Riv website doesn't have specs for the size I'm
> looking at (60cm--the largest Sam they offer
How can I tell the size of the Sam Hillborne frame? I don't see any size on
the paint anywhere, the Riv website doesn't have specs for the size I'm
looking at (60cm--the largest Sam they offer in 2021, apparently). Could be
a 58 or 57 though, not sure.
I tried measuring the top tube length, but
Fortunately for me I have a new Sam Hillborne 54cm heading my way! Trying
to track down parts for it and wondering if anyone can tell me what the
seat tube diameter is so I don't have to find out the hard way that I
bought the wrong front derailleur. Thanks!
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Patrick,
You're right. I had forgotten the first green ones were canti. For some
reason had it burned in my brain mine was sidepull. Just checked some old
photos. Nope. Canti mounts. Looks like I was using V brakes for most of the
time.
Wonder if it was because the Tektro long sidepulls weren't a
I had a first edition Sam, all green with no cream or white,
pre-double-top-tubes, and with cantilever brakes. Orange and sidepulls
obviously came afterward.
Why did Rivendell start using calipers on the Sam? Cantilevers are a
natural for this, for wider tires and fender clearance, especially as (
Yes, I believe it was first green, then orange, solid color. Had a green
one. It's possible they were both available for a while. Then it was the
blue with white/cream headtube option. Still sidepull brakes. And double
top tubes on the big sizes. That's the model I still have. Believe the next
Your Sam is from batch of orange when the head tube was not cream. It was the
second color since Sams first came out.
And your Sam’s vintage is excellent. I used to have one until I replaced it
with a newer Sam frame!
> On Nov 5, 2020, at 5:32 AM, Randall Rupp wrote:
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> I have a Sam Hillb
I have a Sam Hillborne that I got through this list sometime 2012, it's
orange with side pull brakes, but the headtube is not filled in with the
cream color like all the other one's I've seen. It's just orange like the
rest of the bike. Was that a one batch mistake or were the early ones
prod
Paul, the bike rides great. The 48mm tires help but Even without that the
frame is just very body gentle. Handling I’d stable, a bit slower than the
Bleriot but not much and that may be me getting used to it. I’ve put the
Brooks saddle back on and all feels great.
It would be very hard to go t
Very nice Joel!
Have you been able to get out on some rides on it?
If so, what are your thoughts?
Paul in Dallas
Was planing on riding my orange Sam this morning but rain storms started up and
I'm waiting for it to clear out.
Paul in Dallas
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