Re: [RBW] Is tube patching a permanent, reliable fix?

2017-10-17 Thread Ben Miller
For whatever it's worth, I've put 1000's of km's on Lezyne glueless patches. They've last longer than the tyres in which they're encased. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: [RBW] Is tube patching a permanent, reliable fix?

2017-10-11 Thread Patrick Moore
Back when I was a wee lad, sitting at the feet of New Delhi bicycle wallahs, the finishing action after cutting the patch (from old innertube, always pink for some reason), scuffing patch and tube, applying fluid from 4 oz tin, blowing and letting dry, and carefully affixing the patch, was to lay

Re: [RBW] Is tube patching a permanent, reliable fix?

2017-10-10 Thread Bill M.
I use the plastic patch kit box as the 'anvil', and the rounded end of a tire lever to apply the pressure to make sure the patch seals well to the tube. Also, I leave the clear plastic on the patch if I'm reinstalling immediately. That makes sure I don't pull the patch free. If using the

Re: [RBW] Is tube patching a permanent, reliable fix?

2017-10-06 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 10/05/2017 08:21 PM, Eric K wrote: I don’t understand the warning so often repeated to avoid glueless patches. Then let me explain.  In my experience, glueless patches inevitably will fail.  It's hard to tell how long they'll last, but they're not permanent and that patched tube will at

Re: [RBW] Is tube patching a permanent, reliable fix?

2017-10-05 Thread Eric K
I don’t understand the warning so often repeated to avoid glueless patches. I had a rear tube with eight patches, half of which were glueless. The most recent glueless patch had almost 2000 miles, and the oldest glueless had over 4000 miles. The patches all held up just fine until puncture #9

Re: [RBW] Is tube patching a permanent, reliable fix?

2017-10-04 Thread Jon Spangler
lum gim fong, Yes, patching (when successfully accomplished) is permanent--as permanent as any inner tube can be. In addition to the other suggestions here that reinforce following the directions carefully, I suggest: 1) inflating the unmatched tube as much as possible before applying the

Re: [RBW] Is tube patching a permanent, reliable fix?

2017-10-03 Thread Patrick Moore
I should add that, Pre-Sealant, I applied well over 100 patches a year; I regularly bought 2 boxes of 100 Remas at a time; 200 usually lasted me a year. And this went on for at least 25 years after I moved to ABQ, NM. On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 4:09 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: >

Re: [RBW] Is tube patching a permanent, reliable fix?

2017-10-03 Thread Patrick Moore
I've ripped patches off that were so firmly attached that they pulled the tube with them. With proper materials and proper technique, yes, they are very permanent indeed. On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 3:36 PM, lum gim fong wrote: > *What is your track record with patching?* > >

Re: [RBW] Is tube patching a permanent, reliable fix?

2017-10-03 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 10/03/2017 05:36 PM, lum gim fong wrote: *What is your track record with patching?* Has it worked like a permanent, reliable fix for the tube? I hear differing opinions about this. I can save some $$ if patching is a permanent fix. "Glueless" patches are a temporary fix to get you

Re: [RBW] Is tube patching a permanent, reliable fix?

2017-10-03 Thread Reed Kennedy
Also worth mentioning: I only use good quality patch kits, generally Rema, sometimes Rustines. Never the glue-less ones. Best, Reed On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Reed Kennedy wrote: > I must have installed at least a hundred patches over the years. (I used > to run narrow

Re: [RBW] Is tube patching a permanent, reliable fix?

2017-10-03 Thread Reed Kennedy
I must have installed at least a hundred patches over the years. (I used to run narrow high pressure tires, and used to get more flats.) I've had a handful of patches fail. These generally fall in to one of two categories: - Put the puncture too close to the edge of the patch (to cover a big