Re: [RBW] Re: An even fatter (F)atlantis!

2015-04-27 Thread nathaniel nichols
Oh! no we only have one XO-1, the other in the picture belonged to a guy from Bicycling magazine, he was doing a story on a local race organizer and we happened to meet him at one of the events. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch

Re: [RBW] Re: An even fatter (F)atlantis!

2015-04-22 Thread Andy.M
Bike looks great! But if I may make just one suggestion, put some kind of extra strap around your third water bottle... I lost a nice bottle and a decent cage once not knowing to do so. I used a short irish strap like this https://www.flickr.com/photos/wwqandy/4888270842/ -Andy On

Re: [RBW] Re: An even fatter (F)atlantis!

2015-04-22 Thread Mark Reimer
How did you loose the cage?? The bottle is kept so tight in the cage I've got to really yank it to get it out, so I don't think strips are needed for that reason. Did your cage screws back out and the whole thing fell off? On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Andy.M andy.e.m...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: An even fatter (F)atlantis!

2015-04-22 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks, that's useful because I am thinking (just thinking) of getting custom lowriders for the green Curt Riv, which now serves as my grocery bike and which doesn't handle heavy and exclusively rear loads with the aplomb of the recently sold Ram. I hope to have various brazing done on the Curt,

Re: [RBW] Re: An even fatter (F)atlantis!

2015-04-22 Thread Mark Reimer
You have TWO XO-1's!??!? On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:23 AM, nathaniel nichols natnich...@gmail.com wrote: my Front loaded 56cm Fatlantis. It handles pretty well all packed up front, I was letting my partner use the rear rack for her xo1 since we only have one. But yeah going up hills i guess

Re: [RBW] Re: An even fatter (F)atlantis!

2015-04-21 Thread Deacon Patrick
Dave, With my Hunqapillar I only notice the tendency you describe with a combination of factors: -- extremely steep climbing (as in on the edge of having to LCG it). -- Heavyish camping load on the rear (50+ pounds, which I rarely carry camping anymore), nothing on the front. -- Wide, swept

Re: [RBW] Re: An even fatter (F)atlantis!

2015-04-21 Thread Kainalu
I have a 64 Hillborne I tried loading above the front wheel and didn't like the flop that I fought. I carry 1 or 2 Ortlieb roll tops that hold most everything I could need on an outing. However, last summer I moved my kid from a stem mounted Yepp seat to a rear mounted seat, that necessitated

Re: [RBW] Re: An even fatter (F)atlantis!

2015-04-21 Thread Mark Reimer
I can definitely ride no-handed with this setup. Both panniers full, and a full handlebar bag or basket. I get some front-end shimmy without the panniers, which is actually a pretty new problem for me. I found that my headset was a bit loose yesterday though, so that might have been the cause.

Re: [RBW] Re: An even fatter (F)atlantis!

2015-04-21 Thread Patrick Moore
I'd like to hear more about this too -- that is, to be clear, about the tendency of bikes to wander badly when climbing. I found the Sam Hillborne in particular to be very liable to this with a rear load, even compared to the 4 other Rivs I've owned. I'm very surprised at the number of Rivendell

Re: [RBW] Re: An even fatter (F)atlantis!

2015-04-21 Thread Hugh Smitham
Hi Mike, Yes thanks! Atlantis much more stable. And yes meeting Curtis for the O'Neill S240. Wish you could make it, as we'll be going over possible routes from PDX our Summer hub while eating burritos sipping cervezas. Possibilities: South down Oregon coast to Klamath Amtrak back to PDX.

Re: [RBW] Re: An even fatter (F)atlantis!

2015-04-21 Thread Anne Paulson
I find that my Atlantii handle beautifully with a front and rear touring load with more weight on the back. In fact, they handle beautifully under almost any load. But I have noticed the front wheel wander with my Krampus, when I'm climbing hills that are close to my limit, when the bike is

Re: [RBW] Re: An even fatter (F)atlantis!

2015-04-20 Thread Dave C
That's interesting. I have had the Nitto small front rack in the front for years, mainly to hold my light. I was wondering how a bag on top of the rack would contribute to wheel flop. On ascents, I definitely need to make small corrections (due to the high trail, I imagine). If I had a bag

Re: [RBW] Re: An even fatter (F)atlantis!

2015-04-20 Thread Mark Reimer
What do you mean by corrections? Do you mean having weight on the rack makes it difficult to maintain the line you've chosen? As in, the weight actively changes the course your bike is on and requires further input to keep it 'on course'? On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Dave C

Re: [RBW] Re: An even fatter (F)atlantis!

2015-04-20 Thread Mark Reimer
Chris, I forgot to address your question. I'm 100% for front-loading. Having a load in the rear is fine, but not on it's own in my experience. I find the bike very difficult to handle. Even when walking, if my saddle bag is heavily loaded the bike wants to fall over. Because it's so far from my

Re: [RBW] Re: An even fatter (F)atlantis!

2015-04-20 Thread Dave C
Well, to be clear I don't have any weight on the rack right now. What I am referring to is the tendency of some bikes on ascents to have the wheel wander rather than maintain a straight line. One then makes minute steering corrections to counter this. While I have zero experiences with bikes

Re: [RBW] Re: An even fatter (F)atlantis!

2015-04-20 Thread Pondero
Thanks, Mark, I have a fairly casual (non-aggressive) riding style and my rear load on my 56 seems almost invisible. A front load on my 650b Hilsen adds a noticeable wheel flop, probably due to the rather slack head angle. I'm thinking it would work better on the steeper Atlantis and will try

Re: [RBW] Re: An even fatter (F)atlantis!

2015-04-20 Thread Pondero
Thanks, Mark, I have a fairly casual (non-aggressive) riding style and my rear load on my 56 seems almost invisible. A front load on my 650b Hilsen adds a noticeable wheel flop, probably due to the rather slack head angle. I'm thinking it would work better on the steeper Atlantis and will try

Re: [RBW] Re: An even fatter (F)atlantis!

2015-04-20 Thread Dave C
Ha. My street includes a 20 foot elevation change just over one block, and there is a 20+ foot steep hill right across from me in the forest. It's amazing how our geography changes our biking experiences. On Monday, April 20, 2015 at 8:21:00 PM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote: Ahh, well...hah... I

Re: [RBW] Re: An even fatter (F)atlantis!

2015-04-20 Thread Mark Reimer
Ahh, well...hah... I live in a province where there is maybe... a 20 foot elevation change over 100km. So... I have absolutely no clue. I'll find out in a couple weeks when I could to ride across Oregon :) On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Dave C david.charles.carr...@gmail.com wrote: Well, to

Re: [RBW] Re: An even fatter (F)atlantis!

2015-04-20 Thread Mark Reimer
Thanks Sean! Funny you say that, I always look at his Atlantis with admiration, and supposedly he does the same. He has great taste, if I may say so... On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 9:51 AM, sean seanobr...@hotmail.com wrote: Mark, you and Pondero have got to have the best looking Atlantai I've ever

Re: [RBW] Re: An even fatter (F)atlantis!

2015-04-20 Thread Montclair BobbyB
NICE SETUP!!! Begs to be ridden!!! On Monday, April 20, 2015 at 10:52:40 AM UTC-4, Mark Reimer wrote: Thanks Sean! Funny you say that, I always look at his Atlantis with admiration, and supposedly he does the same. He has great taste, if I may say so... On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 9:51 AM,

Re: [RBW] Re: An even fatter (F)atlantis!

2015-04-20 Thread Mark Wilkins
I believe that's a 58. What's the standover with those tires, Mark? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 20, 2015, at 13:37, Dave C david.charles.carr...@gmail.com wrote: What size is that Atlantis? Did you get it a smaller size with the intention using it with fat tires? Do you have any issues with