On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote:
On Mar 8, 10:43 am, Buck ahurv...@gmail.com wrote:
But... if you ride carbon and dress the part,
carbon passing carbon is always a competitive event. You can't not be
about going faster. You can't relax. You don't notice
On Mar 8, 2010, at 9:43 AM, Buck wrote:
well... it reminded me that before I bought my Atlantis, I had a
Lemond (steel with a carbon fork) and that was more or less how I
rode. It wasn't comfortable. It was all about the cyclocomputer. And
riding was more of a competitive event that just plain
This is pretty fun reaction to the go-fast mindset:
http://slowbikes.org/index.php
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote:
On Mar 8, 2010, at 9:43 AM, Buck wrote:
well... it reminded me that before I bought my Atlantis, I had a
Lemond (steel with a carbon
I have a synthetic jersey and it keeps me warm. Everybody I know uses
synthetic jersies. They have never failed, even the zippers! Why is Grant
going on and on about wool and disparaging synthetic jersies. Tom Ritchey
uses synthetic jersies. So does Gary Fisher. They both know a thing or two
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 8:36 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
I have a synthetic jersey and it keeps me warm. Everybody I know uses
synthetic jersies. They have never failed, even the zippers! Why is Grant
going on and on about wool and disparaging synthetic jersies. Tom
I just read Grant's reply to the carbon bashing bashing thread and I was
heartened to learn that (1) he bashes -- the quotation marks to indicate
that this word is used very provisionally -- carbon out of a sense of duty
and (2) almost even more so, that he has little interest in pushing the
I should add to my thoughts that I myself have experienced sudden failure on
a steel steerer tube, and this on a new frameset (NOS -- 531c Orbit tandem
-- bad material for a neophyte tandem couple, all question of overheating
aside!; fortunately no serious injury). But again, there was no such
a material. Materials don't deserve benefit of the
doubt, while people often do.
-Jim W.
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From: Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net
Sent: Mar 6, 2010 12:41 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: Carboon Bashing- was: Riv resurrecting
On Mar 7, 2010, at 10:12 AM, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
One thing is undeniable: there was no such widespread scuttlebutt
about steel, titanium or aluminum forks and frames breaking; for
whatever reason, the volume rather signifcantly increased only when
carbon fiber became common in the bike
It does worry me a bit that we're starting to discuss carbon fiber on this
list. But, it has been specifically related to Riv/Grant topics, so I am
wont to say it's outside the fence. But, it's leaning against it, eh?
It seems to me that the overarching issue is that carbon is filtering down
to
I don't think anybody suggests that EVERY carbon frame or fork will fail in
the next XX years. In fact, probably a TINY fraction of a percent MIGHT.
I also don't think that EVERY Toyota on the road is going to accelerate
unexpectedly and uncontrollably within the next XX years either.
The point
Sure, there were examples. I got a warning from LLBean years after I bought
a rebranded Cannondate sport tourer from them warning me of cracking, and I
personally know of 3 good quality steel frames or forks breaking, either
suddenly or gradually. But there wasn't the volume of talk about it as
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 12:57 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
nd yes the navy makes nuclear shields for aircraft carriers out of the
stuff,
Sorry for the mispelling. I meant, of course, nucular.
Patrick no g-d emoticons in *this* family Moore
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On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote:
Aluminum alloys fall in between and are worth inspecting, especially cranks
at the pedal eye, handlebars/stems and rim braking surfaces.
I wonder: if all the research and attention and money had gone into updating
those
Better:
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/3561856/2007/11/14/thin_french_cranks.jpg
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/3561856/2007/11/10/chrome_french_cranks.jpg
http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/bikes/jrj-rb1.jpg
On Mar 7, 2010, at 2:36 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net
wrote:
Aluminum alloys fall in between and are worth inspecting,
especially cranks at the pedal eye, handlebars/stems and rim
braking surfaces.
I wonder: if all the
of the doubt, while
people often do.
-Jim W.
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From: Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net
Sent: Mar 6, 2010 12:41 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: Carboon Bashing- was: Riv resurrecting and selling crashed
frames
On Mar 6, 2010, at 10:22 AM, bfd
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