"There is currently a discussion over on IBob that I believe started out as a
for sale and has wandered into discussions about Facebook and the You Are The
Product meme and a 1973 "film" by artist Richard Serra and Carlota Fay
Schoolman, "Television Delivers People."
And now something about
The post was simply about someone currently in the news who purportedly
rides a Rivendell, so I don't think scolding anyone is required. And if all
we talked about were chainstay lengths and lugs, snooze. There is currently
a discussion over on IBob that I believe started out as a for sale and
I've found bikes to be bridge builders. Bikes don't care about your politics,
philosophy or faith. You just get on them and ride. Most people love riding,
regardless of the other boxes in life they check. I don't eat paleo, does that
mean I shouldn't buy a Riv because GP eats that way? Of
It's a thing I insist upon on my Twitter feed, although harder to pull off now
than when I started there nearly a decade ago. I've made some incredible
lifelong friends - some I've since met in person - because I reached out to
people I disagree with.
Incidentally studies show that people who
I’ll refrain from engaging politically, since it’s super prohibited. I do think
that everyone has been pretty cordial and understanding to others. I understand
that political things can go sour fast, and that’s why it’s frowned on here,
but at this point in time it’s worth momentarily
The problem I see going forward if this Executive Power situation continues
unchecked is the precedent will be set. Why would a Democrat win in '20 or '24
and go back to the good old days? That's not how reality works. Anything the
president gets away with now will be paid back later, and most
I've been a little hesitant to jump into the pool, but seeing as it's come up
I'll say a few words.
The current Liberal Vs. Conservative, Left Vs. Right crap that's going on is
just decisiveness, either "side" is made up of people with various beliefs and
were the "liberals" to go away it
This seems to me to be a very workable modus vivendi.
On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 1:03 PM Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> "Why buy from a liberal if you're conservative?"
>
> Why be friends with a conservative if I'm liberal? Same answer as the one
> above: Life is better this way. I have close friends who
"I’m not saying you’re gonna get it, Joe, but you have to have an ideal."
Well neither of us are running the joint so I guess we roll with it or talk
about folders and Pedersen bikes on internet-bob. The reality is the Blahg
became a separate and more personal section of rivbike.com a few years
I’m not saying you’re gonna get it, Joe, but you have to have an ideal.
> On Dec 7, 2019, at 1:48 PM, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Really there's no "off topic" until the moderator says so. I've seen plenty
> of Blahg-tangent discussions here because yes, Riv is Grant and Grant has
> been an
Really there's no "off topic" until the moderator says so. I've seen plenty of
Blahg-tangent discussions here because yes, Riv is Grant and Grant has been an
interesting figure in this business for over 30 years. I don't think you're
going to get "only the bikes and parts" here, it's not
No, paleo diets were not acceptable content. If people view them as such, they
are off topic. My point is that this forum did remain much more On topic
between its start and say, 2012 or so.
> On Dec 7, 2019, at 1:20 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> But that's not how it's been. Paleo diets
On 12/7/19 4:08 PM, James Warren wrote:
My understanding when this forum started was that “Discussing Riv products
specifically and quality ride* reports” (ridden on other brands being OK if
it’s a ride report) was what we’re here for. BOBish philosophies and Grant’s
ideas about cameras
There's only so far you can go with "no politics" when the Blahg very clearly
expresses politics and this forum is about that company. I posted the pic with
a rather naive admonition of NO POLITICS, as if that would solve any discussion
complexities..I'm an idiot! But in general I think
My understanding when this forum started was that “Discussing Riv products
specifically and quality ride* reports” (ridden on other brands being OK if
it’s a ride report) was what we’re here for. BOBish philosophies and Grant’s
ideas about cameras would be OT. Unless Riv starts selling a
Great quote, Patrick.
I love Rivendell’s cycling philosophy, and I think Grant is a great person.
With that said, I prefer my bikes sans political commentary.
I also really enjoy kale and my wife’s blueberry pie. They are also most
enjoyable when separated.
It makes me sad to look at a
I have tried to refrain from commenting, but if others are going to
insist on it, I will add my 2c worth.
"Liberal" and "conservative" are labels that have very little
grounding in reality and mean little more than "I like this" or I
dislike that." "Right" and "left" even more confused; what side
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