Re: [RBW] Re: Tires and seat posts more important for comfort than frame material?

2020-08-21 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 8/21/20 5:19 PM, Andrew Turner wrote: I like this guy's videos as they're very thorough but not daunting. It's not exactly anything super controversial though. Basically all frames have  close to 0 vertical compliance by themselves before factoring in seatposts, tires, etc. Totally checks

Re: [RBW] Re: tires

2020-06-16 Thread Joel Stern
Thanks On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 4:38:20 PM UTC-4, ttoshi wrote: > > My best price performance point is with GB Hetre ELs, but Gravelkings have > better flat protection (not quite as nice ride imo). I have not tried the > SOMA GRs, which are priced well too. > > Lots of nice tires as

Re: [RBW] Re: tires

2020-06-16 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
My best price performance point is with GB Hetre ELs, but Gravelkings have better flat protection (not quite as nice ride imo). I have not tried the SOMA GRs, which are priced well too. Lots of nice tires as Franklyn says. Toshi On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 1:17 PM franklyn wrote: > There is a

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires

2020-01-11 Thread Patrick Moore
You must be hard on tires! I agree that the Elk Pass is not the tire to choose for surfaces with large or sharp rocks, but IME, considerable, the sidewalls are better than those on the Pasela 559 X 32, which quickly degrade. On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 8:03 PM 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch <

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires

2020-01-10 Thread Steve Palincsar
If it was "a bill of goods" we'd all be experiencing problems, and that's just not so. On 1/10/20 10:03 PM, 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote: I'm just glad someone finally used the words "fragile" and "Compass" in the same sentence. I think Jan has really sold folks a bill of goods. (And I

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires

2020-01-10 Thread Patrick Moore
This refers to the 559/26" x 1.25/32 Pasela.I hadn't looked for a long while, but good to know that Panracer still makes the 26 X 1.25" Pasela, and that Modern Bike and Amazon carry them: https://www.amazon.com/panaracer-Pasela-ProTite-Folding-Tire/dp/B01K871UYE?th=1=1

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-29 Thread franklyn
It seems that a plush ride is of value here. One trick that I use and one that has been mentioned on this list before is to put tubeless sealant in the tubes. This way you can enjoy the supple Compass/RH tires while not worry about flats: have the cake and eat it also. -- You received this

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-29 Thread PaulS
Schwalbe touring tires can last quite a while and typically measured in distance. Reports I’ve seen vary between 6-10k miles, depending on terrain, weight, etc. I’ve used Big Apples. Very plush. I did have a staple go right through one time. If I had been on my Marathon Plus, I’d have just

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-28 Thread Leah Peterson
It’s hard to say how long tires last. The heat and dryness out here can crack tires but I haven’t had it happen. Use, disuse, miles - it all affects the tire. I had my Betz tires for 5 years before I wore them down to the fabric. I could see the air in those tires! Oh, you asked about the WTB

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-28 Thread REC (Roberta)
How long do tires last? Is it the number of miles (and how many), the age, environmental, a combination? Would these tires last longer I suppose, because the material is thicker (assuming all material is exactly equal, which probably isn't true). I know nothing of tires, but am curious. I'm

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-27 Thread Jan O.
I run 650B x 48mm Big Ben on my Atlantis and they are great all around tires. They roll very well and have good puncture protection. Jan San Francisco, CA On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 8:32:46 AM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > > Alright, I’m just catching up since I had an event

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-27 Thread REC (Roberta)
I have some Kenda tires (not sure which ones) on my Joe Appaloosa. I think they are 45 wide. I pump them to 65 ( I think that is the max) and don't pump them up again until they get that squishy feeling, then pump them up again. I do like them a touch less than the max, but much more than

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-27 Thread Steve Palincsar
Make sure you have a good grip on the bars, in that case. On 9/27/19 11:38 AM, Leah Peterson wrote: I both laughed and shuddered over the football player’s bone-shaking. Yes, that’s what I like - the basketball bounce you get on full tires - I’ve just never thought of it that way! Don’t take

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-27 Thread Garth
Yes 50 is right, they'll be about 46mm and you might have to get the fenders adjusted when installed, maybe not hopefully the mechanic is competent ! *Schwalbe Big Ben, RaceGuard Performance line, wire bead, HS439 - 650B x 48 (50-584, 27.5x2) - 10138 - 745g, 35-70 psi* On Friday,

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-27 Thread Garth
I've had some Kenda tires of a different model, they were fairly light and folding even . and they too felt sluggish. The Big Bens, despite weighing much more ride so much better and as I've said repeatedly roll and roll and roll . on over yonder and hill and dale. I ride the

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-27 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
Wait, not in 50 - where did I get that? Who put this idea in my head? The tire size is “27.5 x 1.75” and the bike has fenders. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-27 Thread Leah Peterson
I both laughed and shuddered over the football player’s bone-shaking. Yes, that’s what I like - the basketball bounce you get on full tires - I’ve just never thought of it that way! Don’t take this from me! Because now I’m a little concerned. But maybe not concerned enough to ride around on

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-27 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
Alright, I’m just catching up since I had an event that went late into last night. I have opened the proverbial can of worms here. I was supposed to say, “Please figure out this tire problem. Tell me what to get and how to make the black speckles stop.” and you were supposed to say, “1. Do

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-27 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 4:59:25 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > > Why does everyone love barely inflated tires? I put the max air in mine > and ride them rock hard! Otherwise they feel flat to me. I fly over bumps > and stay in the saddle and let my bones rattle! I’m

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-26 Thread Patrick Moore
Leah: If you ever try some really nice tires, you will surprised at how fast and smooth -- both together -- they feel at moderate pressures. This advice from someone who used to pump his 35 mm Fatboys to 120 psi because the sidewall told me to do that. Even the Schwalbe Kojaks (I used the

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-26 Thread David Bivins
Leah, I'm the same. I pump them up! On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 5:15 PM Garth wrote: > > It doesn't matter what pressure Leah ... you're enjoying the ride and > that's all that matters. Rules are for foolz ! > > > On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 4:59:25 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding > Ding!

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-26 Thread Garth
It doesn't matter what pressure Leah ... you're enjoying the ride and that's all that matters. Rules are for foolz ! On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 4:59:25 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > > Why does everyone love barely inflated tires? I put the max air in mine > and ride

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-26 Thread Leah Peterson
Why does everyone love barely inflated tires? I put the max air in mine and ride them rock hard! Otherwise they feel flat to me. I fly over bumps and stay in the saddle and let my bones rattle! I’m doing it wrong, I know... Sent from my iPad >> On Sep 26, 2019, at 1:47 PM, Garth wrote: >  >

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-26 Thread Garth
Well that's interesting PM ! I prolly weigh more/less in the same ballpark and I first tried the BB @ 25-30 psi but found the rear(Rhyno Lite rim) a bit bouncy on the road, and the front felt like it was gonna roll off the rim(25mm Mavic) when I leaned hard into corners. Felt like is one

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-26 Thread George Schick
Be careful about buying Schwalbe Big Apple tires. For many years (well over 15 IIRC) I had a pair of Schwalbe Big Apple 26x2.35" tires on my Surly 1x1 and I loved everything about them. They finally came to the end of the road this Summer when I rode across a stretch of pavement where

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-26 Thread Garth
The Clem takes up to 60mm/2.4" tires, but with your fenders which are likely P50's(about 53-54 actual) the Big Ben 50's(46 or so actual) fit fine. I bought the BB over the Big Apples just for the extra tread and lifespan. Trust me, the tread does little if anything for traction on the road

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-26 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
Ok, Friends, you’ve got me interested in the Schwalbe tires, and of those, I think the Big Ben and the Big Apples sound good. I don’t know that I need the tread of the Bens since I’m really a paved surface kinda gal. But I’m open here! The next question is what size. I was out there with a

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-26 Thread Patrick Moore
Quite seriously, I don't want to step on Garth's or any one else's toes, but I'm 175 lb and I ran 50 mm tires, and paper thin ones at that (Furious Freds, 360 grams each) at 20 psi on dirt, sub 30 on pavement. 60s if stiff sidewalled Big Apples at 16-17 dirt and about 21 pavement, supple ones

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

2019-09-26 Thread Leah Peterson
Someone private messaged me and was nearly certain the brake pads are causing the smattering of black speckles, and I think he’s right. I ran my fingers over the brake pads and that same matter appeared on my fingers. With my brakes employed down the 1 mile descent to school, there would be a

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for HHH tandem

2019-06-12 Thread Paul Burns
thanks--that's interesting and helpful. I'm a little concerned about what i might be contributing to the environment with all the sealant I would use and its related packaging/transport/embedded energy/etc. i don't change tubes very often and can just pump them up with elbow grease when needed.

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for HHH tandem

2019-06-12 Thread Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY
Though they rarely get a chance to roll, my HHH and I love our 60mm g-ones mounted tubeless on cliffhangers. And the same tires mounted tubeless, also with cliffhangers, on my Rosco Bubbe are way way way way preferable to tubed when rolling around the mean streets of NYC. I go through roughly

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for HHH tandem

2019-06-12 Thread Paul Burns
Thanks, all, appreciated. Am going to start with the 50mm G-One Speeds. Am scared to try tubeless, mostly because I am old fashioned/out of touch/don't understand/haven't tried it. Thoughts on the advisability of that with tandems? On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 7:54:11 PM UTC-4, Marc Pfister

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for HHH tandem

2019-06-11 Thread Marc Pfister
On Sunday, June 9, 2019 at 2:25:27 PM UTC-6, Paul Burns wrote: > > Looking for tires for HHH, 70% on paved road, 30% dirt roads. Would > really prefer tan sidewall. Compass sound great, but am concerned re > flats/durability. Considering WTB Horizon 47 and Panaracer GravelKing 48. My

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for HHH tandem

2019-06-09 Thread Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles
Schwalbe marathon supremes are working well for us. Had some thunderburts on there but the casing was too supple for the weight and we ended up having to way overinflate and had subsequent flat issues. You’ll want something with a fairly substantial casing so you don’t have to compensate with

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for HHH tandem

2019-06-09 Thread Paul Burns
Looking for tires for HHH, 70% on paved road, 30% dirt roads. Would really prefer tan sidewall. Compass sound great, but am concerned re flats/durability. Considering WTB Horizon 47 and Panaracer GravelKing 48. Which would be better? Any other (wider) suggestions? Also: am assuming

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for 2000/2001 Toyo Atlantis with 50mm SKS fenders

2019-05-31 Thread 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch
Paul Do not know since I've only used SKS P45's with 700Cx32 and 27"x1-1/4". I would assume the Homjo's are similar from the appearance. The ratio of tire to fender (38/51) is 76% which is higher than Jan H typically recommends (can't remember off hand, but I recall 60% being ideal) but

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for 2000/2001 Toyo Atlantis with 50mm SKS fenders

2019-05-31 Thread Paul Burns
John Aha—hadn’t seen that, thanks. I wonder how the Honjos vary from SKS terms of capaciousness. —thanks Paul > On May 30, 2019, at 20:40, 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch > wrote: > > Paul > > The Compass site shows a 700C 50/51mm Honjo fender (H47/H50) accommodates a > max tire

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for 2000/2001 Toyo Atlantis with 50mm SKS fenders

2019-05-31 Thread Paul Burns
William Thank you very much. Which type/size fenders do you have? —thanks Paul > On May 30, 2019, at 23:50, William! wrote: > > I’ve run both 42mm and 48mm Shikoros on my 61cm Toyo, with fenders. 48mm is > somewhat tight but I’ve had no issues with it. > > -- > You received this message

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for a new HHH build

2018-11-06 Thread David Hays
I’m running Hetres and am very pleased. > On Nov 6, 2018, at 5:05 PM, M G wrote: > > We have WTB horizons, with tubes - over 2k miles on them, still lots of > tread. They have good suspension [even w tubes] and are quite fast. Lots of > gravel and rutted Western Massachusetts roads, did D2R2

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires, revisited.

2017-08-11 Thread Patrick Moore
Yes indeed to Orange Seal. I've blathered about it enough, but it makes possible the use of "fragile" tires that otherwise would be impossible due to flats; be it put in tubes (at least, above 30-35 psi; it wouldn't work for me in tubes at 20 or so) or of course tubeless. Oh, and Patrick: what

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Sam

2017-04-07 Thread Broccoli Cog
Easy, I am riding 40mm Clement X'plor USH MSO on my Sam now in the 120 Tpi version. They are a really good tire. The reason I was interested in the Compass is because I wanted a smooth or a herringbone style tread. In other words more road like since that is where I am mainly riding these days.

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Sam

2017-04-07 Thread EasyRider
I think the Kojaks look have a really cool moto look, especially the fat ones. When I bore of the 26x2.15 Big Bens on my commuter, I'll either get Kojaks or some ThunderBurts in 26", if there are any left. For the OP, I imagine the Little Big Ben 700x40s are as indestructible as the 26

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Sam

2017-04-07 Thread Patrick Moore
I commuted across town for several years on 559 X 32 mm non-Tourguard Paselas. They ride well for the price, but FWIW, I found them rather delicate (sidewalls started to decay after a year or so in the sun; I once scraped an inch of tread off the rear casing with an unplanned skid), and very

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Sam

2017-04-07 Thread Patrick Moore
I've been very pleased with how well Compass extralights hold up off road, in firmish dirt (even light sand) and gravel. With modern sealants for thorns, I feel more confident with my Elk Passes on dirt than I used to with beefier road tires like Kojaks. I agree, I'm happy to spend top dollar for

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Sam

2017-04-07 Thread Garth
Vee Tires is a bit of mystery, since there are 2 such companies. Vee Tire and Vee Rubber . I have looked at both sites and left confused ! On Friday, April 7, 2017 at 9:37:22 AM UTC-4, Conway Bennett wrote: > > I went on a "budget" 700x47 tire buying spree last summer. What I came up >

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Sam

2017-04-07 Thread Jon Dukeman,central Colorado
I'm on my 3rd year with Schwalbe 700c-38 Little Bens. They have served me well on pavement and gravel. Jon >> . >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Sam

2017-04-07 Thread Chris Birkenmaier
I have Compass Gran Bois 42mm Hetres in cream on mine. The bike is orange and with the cream tires they look stunning (in my opinion). The ride is great too. I'm sold on Compass and other supple tires to the point I don't want to ride anything else. On Friday, April 7, 2017 at 9:37:22 AM

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Sam

2017-04-07 Thread Captain Conway Bennett
I went on a "budget" 700x47 tire buying spree last summer. What I came up with was the resist nomads and vee rubber 12s are great. Actually the vee tires I was sent were the grv model which I can't actually find info on but appear to be the same tread as the 12s. The resists are sort of like

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Sam

2017-04-07 Thread Jeff Lesperance
I like the Resist Nomad tires as a wallet friendly option. I used them on an LHT owned several years ago, and now use them on my commuter. http://resistparts.com/parts/tires-nomad/ Jeff Silver Spring, MD On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 5:37 AM, Garth wrote: > Yes, the Vittoria

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for HHH tandem

2017-02-27 Thread Daniel Jackson
Compass SBH Standard casing going on ours. Talked to Paul today at Paul Component and decided to spec some Motolites over the Honjo H-80 fender. He was certain clearances would work well. Excited to put this all together in time for summer travels. -- You received this message because you

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for HHH tandem

2017-02-24 Thread Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles
Currently split between the WTB Horizon (~48mm) because I have a pair laying around and Thunder Burtsbecause they are my latest tire obsession. On Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 3:02:54 PM UTC-5, René wrote: > > I asked them about paved and dirt trails, but didn't specifically mention >

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for HHH tandem

2017-02-23 Thread René Sterental
I asked them about paved and dirt trails, but didn't specifically mention gnarly rutted/rocky trails. But I believe that with this in mind, they recommended the standard sidewall instead of the ultralight. Michael makes a good point about the diminishing returns, which I believe would also apply,

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for HHH tandem

2017-02-23 Thread Michael Hechmer
All improvements are governed by the law of diminishing returns. Going from 28 mm tires to 38 mm tires yields a big improvement on comfort; from 38 to 48mm offers offers less but still noticeable improvement in comfort without any noticeable loss in rolling. Going from 48 to 58 will yield

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for HHH tandem

2017-02-23 Thread Ryan Thompson
Like Tony I plan to ride my HHH on the C towpath and think I'll go with Big Bens. I have a set on my Xtracycle'd vintage mountain bike and with hauling two kids over many miles I've never had a flat and they still manage to provide a good ride. Ryan Arlington, VA On Thursday, February 23,

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for HHH tandem

2017-02-23 Thread Tony DeFilippo
I ran Compass 700c x 35mm regular casing on my Burly tandem for a 2-3 day 135 mile C canal and rail trail ride to July's ago. Combined team and cargo weight was a pretty robust ~450lbs. I had three flats the first day, all rear, exhausting my spare tubes. After adjusting weight to front

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for HHH tandem

2017-02-22 Thread Bill Lindsay
I think my quasi motos were more like 50mm on Synergy rims. They are 53mm on these wide rims. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for HHH tandem

2017-02-22 Thread Ray Varella
Using them on road exclusively or on trails? Did you ask that Rene? I'm sure they will roll great. I'll be curious to hear how they hold up on bumpy and rutted trails. Those HHH tandems will make really fun trail bikes. Ray Vallejo. -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for HHH tandem

2017-02-22 Thread René Sterental
I e-mailed Compass Cycles and Gave highly recommended the 650b 48mm Switchback Hill with the regular casing and said they know a number of heavy tandem riders who've used them with no issues at all. So I placed my order. Will report once everything is built and ridden. Can't wait. On Wed, Feb 22,

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for HHH tandem

2017-02-22 Thread René Sterental
Thanks to all for your feedback. I still feel inclined to go with the standard Compass tires, as I haven't had any problems with MTB compass tires compared to the previous Schwalbe tires and love their suppleness. We'll see... wonder if a wider less supple tire somehow offsets their lesser

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for HHH tandem

2017-02-22 Thread Julian Westerhout
The good news is that unless you're running 25c or narrower tires on a tandem there is no reason to use such high pressures. On our first tandem we used 32s and 35s at about 80-90 psi. On our second we run 650b x 42 Hetres at 60-65 psi. On the HHH we anticipate 55+ and 45 psi. Tandem

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for HHH tandem

2017-02-22 Thread Ruben Flores
One other bit of info on tandem tires. You will burn thru them faster than you expect. We use 120psi on our roadie and only get about 800 miles out of a rear, often the issue is sidewall tesr but ask your stoker what they think of s pothole blowout. After a few cycles we went with the front

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for HHH tandem

2017-02-21 Thread Bill Lindsay
They were about 52mm on normal rims. On these wide Alex rims they probably will be even wider. I'll let you know when I have them mounted. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for HHH tandem

2017-02-21 Thread René Sterental
Hi Bill, how wide are the Quasi Motos? On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > I picked up my tandem wheelset today. I have a set of Pacenti Quasi Moto > knobbies that I used to run on a Bombadil and that are too big for any of > my 650B bikes today. I'm

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for my Hunq

2015-10-08 Thread Tim Gavin
Super Motos are great tires. They are very fast on the road and float well in the dirt. However, based on your dirt-biased riding, I'd recommend the Thunder Burt. Its knobs (especially on the edges) will help you climb out of ruts that the Super Moto may slide down into. The Thunder Burt

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for my Hunq

2015-10-08 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Can't say enough good about the Burts. I took them off my Salsa for a bit, need to get them back on! On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 6:03:13 AM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote: > > Super Motos are great tires. They are very fast on the road and float > well in the dirt. > > However, based on your

Re: [RBW] re: tires - I could be imagining things, but...I am thinking Cypres is good

2014-05-12 Thread Jim Bronson
I think that has been most folks' experience with the Grand Bois Cypres. Certainly mine when switching from Gatorskins. They are more flat prone but the tradeoff is worth it IMO. On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 9:35 AM, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: -- I just

Re: [RBW] re: tires - I could be imagining things, but...I am thinking Cypres is good

2014-05-12 Thread Bruce Herbitter
I have been running Cypres on my Riv Road for a few years and like them a lot. The kevlar bead ones. There was also a steel bead at one time that I tried and did not like. On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 9:35 AM, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: -- I just replaced the

Re: [RBW] re: tires - I could be imagining things, but...I am thinking Cypres is good

2014-05-12 Thread Jan Heine
Grand Bois changed their tire design significantly based on our tire tests. At first, they used a casing that was similar to the Rolly-Poly/Jack Brown/Maxy-Fasty. After our tests, they went back to the drawing board and improved the design. The latest step in that direction are the Extra Léger

Re: [RBW] re: tires - I could be imagining things, but...I am thinking Cypres is good

2014-05-12 Thread Brewster Fong
On Monday, May 12, 2014 10:37:43 AM UTC-7, Jan Heine wrote: Grand Bois changed their tire design significantly based on our tire tests. At first, they used a casing that was similar to the Rolly-Poly/Jack Brown/Maxy-Fasty. After our tests, they went back to the drawing board and improved

Re: [RBW] re: tires - I could be imagining things, but...I am thinking Cypres is good

2014-05-12 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 05/12/2014 02:16 PM, Brewster Fong wrote: On Monday, May 12, 2014 10:37:43 AM UTC-7, Jan Heine wrote: Grand Bois changed their tire design significantly based on our tire tests. At first, they used a casing that was similar to the Rolly-Poly/Jack Brown/Maxy-Fasty. After our

Re: [RBW] re: tires - I could be imagining things, but...I am thinking Cypres is good

2014-05-12 Thread Brewster Fong
On Monday, May 12, 2014 11:22:09 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 05/12/2014 02:16 PM, Brewster Fong wrote: On Monday, May 12, 2014 10:37:43 AM UTC-7, Jan Heine wrote: Grand Bois changed their tire design significantly based on our tire tests. At first, they used a casing that was

Re: [RBW] re: tires - I could be imagining things, but...I am thinking Cypres is good

2014-05-12 Thread Jan Heine
I think Steve is right, it would be hard to improve upon FMB. Their tubulars are pretty amazing. I used them in 'cross last season, and they were a dream. For their road tires, I think the tread could be improved (they use Challenge's treads for their wider tires), mostly to increase the

Re: [RBW] Re: tires - I could be imagining things, but...I am thinking Cypres is good

2014-05-12 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 05/12/2014 05:57 PM, eflayer wrote: So if the Cypres is actually a Grand Bois-branded product. Is there a similar/better Compass-branded 700 x 32-ish? http://www.compasscycle.com/tires_comp_700_32.html Stampede Pass -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] Re: tires - I could be imagining things, but...I am thinking Cypres is good

2014-05-12 Thread Eric Norris
I have these on the Motobecane-Formerly-Known-As-Patrick's. Like them a lot. They handled the unpaved section of the Davis Double flawlessly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M08gWcJd8Mfeature=sharelist=UUccfA4NuyWU3-YaUf9LkNwA --Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com

Re: [RBW] Re: tires - I could be imagining things, but...I am thinking Cypres is good

2014-05-12 Thread Deacon Patrick
Thanks for the video, Eric. That helps answer my last remaining question before I put the Barlow Pass Compass tires at the top of my list. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, May 12, 2014 4:37:39 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote: I have these on the Motobecane-Formerly-Known-As-Patrick’s. Like them a

Re: [RBW] re: tires - I could be imagining things, but...I am thinking Cypres is good

2014-05-12 Thread ted
Do I recall correctly that Jan has said elsewhere that the EL casings were developed from the mfg's high end tubular casing? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

Re: [RBW] re: tires - I could be imagining things, but...I am thinking Cypres is good

2014-05-12 Thread Bruce Herbitter
I'll have to work through my back stock of tires Jan before I can justify ordering something new, although there are a number of new tires in the market to look at including the Compass offerings. Thanks for the back ground info however. we lose track so quickly of how bikes and components came

Re: [RBW] re: tires - I could be imagining things, but...I am thinking Cypres is good

2014-05-12 Thread Jan Heine
That is correct. There has been a lot of discussion between Grand Bois, Compass and Panaracer about how to make the ultimate clincher tires... Jan Heine On Monday, May 12, 2014 4:38:30 PM UTC-7, ted wrote: Do I recall correctly that Jan has said elsewhere that the EL casings were developed

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires make a difference?

2014-03-16 Thread Tim Gavin
Yup. Studded tires increase your rolling resistance by a couple orders of magnitude. Of course, they'd be *point*less if they didn't. I swapped out my Nokian W160s back to the ITS DJ Micro Knobbies on my Schwinn KOM, and now it's like I'm going downhill. Nice riding 26 tire at $18 apiece

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires in the Goldilocks zone (was Grant on tires)

2014-03-16 Thread Jason Leach
I don't think they will stock the GR is a way to have a better tire. From a retail perspective it makes sense to try new things, rotate stock, and offer additional products to compliment existing ones. Rivendell has an existing business relationship with Soma. To my knowledge RBW has never sold

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires in the Goldilocks zone (was Grant on tires)

2014-03-16 Thread Eric Platt
Well, glad to know there are some others out there that aren't overly pleased with the Marathon Supreme. Have used both the 700x40 and the 26x50 versions. In both sets found the ride to be slow. LIke they are sticking to the ground. Have always written it off as my excess weight. Might have to

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires/Wheels for new Sam Hillborne

2013-08-09 Thread Minh
double-check with riv but many schwalbes come in undersize relative to the label, my 35's actually measure 33, i think the 40/42 supremes come in around 37. if you have the space (and on my hillborne with 48m steel fenders i can handle a 37) then i suggest as much tire as possible. On

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires/Wheels for new Sam Hillborne

2013-08-09 Thread William
The reasons to pick the 40s are: more comfy, more durable, more traction, more safety, no slower The reasons to pick the 35s are: you are a gram-counter and want the lighter ones or you are forced to 35s because the 40s won't fit On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 12:29:15 PM UTC-7, Mark

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires/Wheels for new Sam Hillborne

2013-08-08 Thread Mark Taintor
Thanks for all your thoughts everyone. I've been convinced to stay with the 700c wheels that it was designed for. Now as to my other question, 40mm Supremes vs 35mm Supremes? Any reason to pick one over the other? Mark On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 1:02 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Good

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires/Wheels for new Sam Hillborne

2013-08-07 Thread Tim Gavin
You can fit 650B wheels on any 700C bike. The question is which brakes to use. The Sam uses sidepull brakes. Ask Riv what the reach is for a 650B rim on a 56 Sam. Silver sidepulls reach to 75mm; Dia Compe/Weinmann centerpulls reach to 78mm. If the reach is more than that, then you may be out

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires/Wheels for new Sam Hillborne

2013-08-07 Thread pcb
You can fit 650b wheels on any 700c bike, but some 700c bikes won't fit 650b tires. This isn't an issue for Mark's Sam, but it's worth noting for 650b conversions in general. If your frame has tight clearances with 25mm 700c tires, currently-available 650b tires will be very tight. If 23mm

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires/Wheels for new Sam Hillborne

2013-08-07 Thread William
You can not run 650B wheels on a 700C Sam Hillborne. The reasons are threefold 1. Reach. The brake clearance on a 700C Hillborne is dialed for a long reach sidepull brake. A 650B would require ~20mm more reach than an already long reach brake. There are no good 90mm reach brake calipers.

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires/Wheels for new Sam Hillborne

2013-08-07 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/07/2013 12:53 PM, William wrote: You can not run 650B wheels on a 700C Sam Hillborne. The reasons are threefold 2. Drop. Grant already dialed the frame design of the Hillborne for 700xfat tires. Among those things that are dialed is the BB drop. Run smaller diameter wheels, and

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires/Wheels for new Sam Hillborne

2013-08-07 Thread William
Good one, Steve, and excellent point. If you decide that you don't mind the fact that you can't equip your bike with brakes in 1) then you could work around the too low BB in 2) by running too short cranks. Best of all, run no cranks or BB at all, since you'll probably want your feet on the

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for AHH?

2013-05-30 Thread Matthew J
Definitely Grand Bois Cypres or Grand Bois Extra Leger. Cypres have been amazing tires for me the past three years. Comfortable and only one flat riding on mix of Chicago city streets, suburban streets and roads, paved and lime stone paths. Bought a set of Extra Legers this year and

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for AHH?

2013-05-30 Thread René Sterental
+1 for the Extra Leger, like I said earlier. Wishing for a 40mm version... René   — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:28 AM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote: Definitely Grand Bois Cypres or Grand Bois Extra Leger. Cypres have been amazing tires for me the past

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for AHH?

2013-05-30 Thread David Hays
I'm still setting mine up. What rear rack are you running, Mike? David On May 29, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Curtis, congrats on the new bike. You're gonna love it. Tire choice for the Hilsen can be tough given the range of tires. I've tried so many different

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for AHH?

2013-05-29 Thread Curtis McKenzie
Thanks for the advice. The bike is a used AHH that was recently put up for sale on this site. The price and size was right and I had been looking for a few months. I think that I will have to try a few types of tires to find what works for me. I appreciate the recommendations and will follow

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for AHH?

2013-05-29 Thread Peter Morgano
I can't see cheaping out on tires, personally. I think the piece of mind that comes with riding on quality rubber is worth it. Overpaying for nothing is silly, admittedly but getting the right tire can make or break the ride and feel of a bike. On May 29, 2013 9:37 PM, Deacon Patrick

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for AHH?

2013-05-29 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2013-05-29 at 21:55 -0400, Peter Morgano wrote: I can't see cheaping out on tires, personally. I think the piece of mind that comes with riding on quality rubber is worth it. Overpaying for nothing is silly, admittedly but getting the right tire can make or break the ride and feel of a

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for AHH?

2013-05-29 Thread Brian Hanson
Great tire for Homer = Grand Bois Cypres. I have a pair in reserve waiting for the current pair on my Homer to wear out. Also like Jack Brown greens. 90% road 10% gravel commute for me. Brian Hanson Seattle, WA On May 29, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Wed,

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for AHH?

2013-05-28 Thread Hugh Smitham
Hey, don't leave me out! I'll ride SD :-) I like to get lost on a bike. ~Hugh Hugh Sunland, Ca On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:24 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Curtis: Congrats on the new bike. These guys will overwhelm you with great tire suggestions (which can lead to lively discussions)

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for AHH?

2013-05-28 Thread dougP
I am never actually lost; the route sometimes becomes temporarily misplaced. dougP On Tuesday, May 28, 2013 7:27:48 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Hey, don't leave me out! I'll ride SD :-) I like to get lost on a bike. ~Hugh Hugh Sunland, Ca On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:24 PM, dougP

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for 26 wheel Atlantis

2011-02-08 Thread John Speare
Also -- one thing you might consider Anne: the Pasala (non-tourguards) are relatively cheap compared to most tires... so experimenting with a bit more width may be worth the gamble. Jan Heine published an interesting article a few months ago in Bicycle Quarterly about the relationship b/t wheel

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for 26 wheel Atlantis

2011-02-08 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 11:37 AM, John Speare johnspe...@gmail.com wrote: Jan Heine published an interesting article a few months ago in Bicycle Quarterly about the relationship b/t wheel diamter and tire width. The general conclusion was that as the wheel got smaller in diameter, wider

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