Patrick,
I agree ride quality does take precedence, and we all trust Riv to put that
first and foremost, and they deliver. But there is more than one way to
skin a cat, as they say, so there are lots of different ways to make a bike
that rides well and is durable (the other really important
Oh, and I have to say about the Niner: as far as I can tell, it's a very
Rivendellian bike in its subordination of form to function; but true, it's
not a Rivendellian mannter of subordinating form to function. But that's
fine; there is plenty of room for wonderful, practical bikes that are
outside
On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:25 PM, Ben Miller wrote:
> ... end of the day Grant decides what Riv is. (This is said slightly
> tongue-in-cheek, but only slightly)
>
That's true; what is left for debate is, if this is all that Riv is, is it
worth following?
I've followed
QUICKBEAM!
"It's just a road-going track bike that can fit 42mm tires. Totally normal.
Retro. Plus it's designed specifically for two gear ratios."
"Oh is that all? I'll take two."
Philip
www.biketinker.com
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That's where it can become a boring semantic debate. Somebody could say
'the Roadeo is a road racing bike that can take 32mm tires', and then point
to a 1963 Jack Taylor that can take 32mm tires. Still, to me the Roadeo is
unique. More BB drop, slacker STA, slightly upsloping TT, etc. Grant
On Thursday, October 26, 2017 at 4:21:24 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
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> I can't tell if this question is honest curiosity or the beginning of a
> semantic debate. I hope it's the former, because semantic debates are
> super boring.
>
Honest curiosity.There has been a LOT of
Great thread, Bill. I love Will's take. My own evolution as an incorrigible
tinkerer had been to detach from the opinions of others. I love my bikes, but
they are MY bikes and I get a lot of pleasure from figuring it what I want from
each one.
Jay
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I can't tell if this question is honest curiosity or the beginning of a
semantic debate. I hope it's the former, because semantic debates are
super boring.
Any of them. There is no Rivendell model that is a copy of something that
came before, in my opinion. If there's a model that
What's a Rivvish bike ?
The only place to find the "what" , is where there is no "what".
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On Thursday, October 26, 2017 at 2:09:32 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
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> Rivendell does not copy or replicate any old proven designs. They
> design bikes that have never been built before by anyone, ever.
>
Which frames in particular are you talking about?
-david parsons
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On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 6:16 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:
> If you think that list is a retrogrouch list, then I don't know what you
> mean with the word "retrogrouch". To me, retrogrouch means "I like this
> old thing, and the new thing is crap, and
If you think that list is a retrogrouch list, then I don't know what you
mean with the word "retrogrouch". To me, retrogrouch means "I like this
old thing, and the new thing is crap, and I don't even have to try it to
know I hate it".
Rivendell is not pro-friction-shifting. Rivendell
Since when are high bars "retro"? Anything but, I'd say. Back in the
day, it was inches of bar drop. You didn't even see bars level with
saddle back then, never mind "modern Rivendell sky high".
On 10/26/2017 05:45 PM, Lee Legrand wrote:
Bill there are retrogrouch aspects of it.
Bill there are retrogrouch aspects of it.
Friction shifting
High bars for riding
Riding for enjoyment rather than fast pace road cycling
Lugged steel frame vs composite
Tires wider than 25 mm (this is more bucking the system)
I view Rivendell as a company that makes bicycle for the vast majority
It is my opinion that the people who think Rivendell is either "retro" or
"retrogrouch" are taking an EXTREMELY short-sighted view of things. You
can't see the forest for the lugs if you think Rivendell is using old
proven designs. Lugged-steel is an old proven construction method,
perhaps.
Riding
Individualistically
Versus
Inclusive
Stylistic
Habituation
Or something like that...
Brian Cole
Lawrenceville, NJ
On Thursday, October 26, 2017 at 3:56:28 PM UTC-4, Lee Legrand wrote:
> I always thought Rivish was centered around the retrogrouch philosophy in
> which steel lugged
I always thought Rivish was centered around the retrogrouch philosophy in
which steel lugged frame, wide tires for comfort, bicycling is for
enjoyment and travel over speed, modern technology is good but the old
design has proven itself to work well, therefore no need to constantly move
with
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