Re: [RBW] XL frames and 650b experiences

2016-11-08 Thread Jim Bronson
Yes, prior to the conversion I could barely fit Grand Bois Cypres tires and fenders were out of the question even with 700x28 gatorskins. Short reach brakes. The conversion makes it much more user friendly, if a bit lower to the ground. On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Ryan Fleming

Re: [RBW] XL frames and 650b experiences

2016-11-08 Thread Ryan Fleming
then I'll be wishing I'd bought Mark Reimer's wheelset he has for sale ...with the 700c wheelset I couldn't squeeze much more than 32mm tires even without fenders On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 12:26:20 PM UTC-6, ttoshi wrote: > > Hi Ryan, > > If you are running 32 mm, you should be able to

Re: [RBW] XL frames and 650b experiences

2016-11-08 Thread Jim Bronson
I put together an album of action shots on my 650B converted Riv, here they are: https://flic.kr/s/aHskGLZQGt Yes, I know my fenderline sucks pretty bad. Oh well. :) Regarding Toshi's comments, on these older Rivs the chainstays are not squeezed (dimpled?) for larger tires, so 38mm is the max

Re: [RBW] XL frames and 650b experiences

2016-11-08 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
Hi Ryan, If you are running 32 mm, you should be able to get 38 mm up to 42 mm with the conversion, so it would be really nice. The chainstays limited my width for my non-Riv conversions, but my Ram conversion had no problem going to 42 mm. Good luck! Toshi -- You received this message

Re: [RBW] XL frames and 650b experiences

2016-11-08 Thread Andrew Patteson
Thank you, Ryan. I had one nice bruise but nothing at all bothersome... the bike has a bent fork and a bent top tube, so while I still have the frame hanging in my shed, I kind of doubt it will ever see road again. What a great, great ride it was. Just about all of the components in the

Re: [RBW] XL frames and 650b experiences

2016-11-08 Thread Ryan Fleming
yes...let us see how it all turns out...+ 1 on finding nice Compass tires of suitable width for comfortable spinning...they are great tires and complement those older Riv roads very nicely...I have 32 Stampede Pass tires on my 2001 Curt Goodrich built bike...56 cm frame with 700c wheels. My

Re: [RBW] XL frames and 650b experiences

2016-11-08 Thread Abcyclehank
Jim Sounds like your bike is what I am trying to clone. Mine is 2000 or 2001 slate blue metallic with cream head tube and accents. It is not my goal to use the long cranks, hammering along is in my past, just looking for comfortable spinning on great tires mile after mile here in my

Re: [RBW] XL frames and 650b experiences

2016-11-08 Thread Jim Bronson
I have my 68ST/64TT 90s Riv Custom or Road Standard (not sure which) converted to 650b. It is a Joe Starck brazed frame also. Max clearance on my frame is for 38mm wide tires so I'm running 650x38b Compass Loup Loups. Caliper says they measure the full 38mm wide on my rims. Brakes are Tektro

Re: [RBW] XL frames and 650b experiences

2016-11-08 Thread Abcyclehank
Garth is 100% correct, like Rivendell who meets the needs of 100PBH riders some manufactures also make special length cranks. I have 2 sets one High Sierra and one Zinn they are identical. I have even tried a 210mm once but passed it along. Fortunately I find no comfort issue switching

Re: [RBW] XL frames and 650b experiences

2016-11-08 Thread Garth
Yes, IRD, DaVinci, Zinn, High Sierra Cycles(the mfr. of Zinn cranks but also sell under their own name) and Zen cranks come to mind. Of course, crank length "theory" is another story without any end. On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 10:10:00 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > Are there

Re: [RBW] XL frames and 650b experiences

2016-11-07 Thread Abcyclehank
Toshi. I am not converting the Atlantis or Bomba. Rather the 68cm custom Riv. or a 73cm custom Mark Nobilette with Canti brakes comparable to a Hilsen. The Nobilette has 32mm tires now but that is almost max. I could get 38-42mm on the Custom if converted. I will run a 175 or 170 crank. I

Re: [RBW] XL frames and 650b experiences

2016-11-07 Thread Steve Palincsar
Are there any cranks 3 cm longer than 170s? On 11/07/2016 06:54 PM, Toshi Takeuchi wrote: I don't usually fret about BB height on my 650b conversions, but use 170 mm cranks. However, adding 1-3 cm of crank length would have me concerned enough to not recommend it. I've scraped road twice in

Re: [RBW] XL frames and 650b experiences

2016-11-07 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
I don't usually fret about BB height on my 650b conversions, but use 170 mm cranks. However, adding 1-3 cm of crank length would have me concerned enough to not recommend it. I've scraped road twice in thousands of miles with SPD pedals (sorta bounced the pedal off the road--not any danger of

Re: [RBW] XL frames and 650b experiences

2016-11-07 Thread Abcyclehank
David your frequent messages about the Redwood has been one of my main inspirations. Glad I stopped bidding against you for it, I benefitted from losing. Miss Ryan, I agree that tragic is much better than fatal when discussing accidents of any kind: whether people, bike or cars are involved.

Re: [RBW] XL frames and 650b experiences

2016-11-07 Thread Ryan Fleming
Well...I sincerely hope that you, at least, are OK, but that is too bad about your bike. I hope it is tragic accident and not a fatal one for your bike Ryan in Winnipeg who now knows she has compression fracture of a lower vertebra and with our lovely November is making do with walking

Re: [RBW] XL frames and 650b experiences

2016-11-06 Thread Andrew Patteson
Here's my 1983 Trek 600. It had a tragic encounter with a curb a few weeks after this was taken :( Go for it! Most issues can be worked out or around but really

Re: [RBW] XL frames and 650b experiences

2016-11-06 Thread Abcyclehank
Eric Both of these examples are beautiful. Provided a ton of potential answers. Areas of concern currently are brake issues but I have a set of Silvers, and am willing to modify if necessary (although looks fine during mock up). Bottom bracket drop also is a potential concern asI generally

Re: [RBW] XL frames and 650b experiences

2016-11-06 Thread Eric Daume
Here are some pictures of my 25" Raleigh Technium 650B conversion; https://bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2016/09/raleigh-technium-650b-conversion.html After riding it for a bit, I like the wheels and tires, like the tires, hate the brakes, and am ambivalent about the handling. The frame is nice and