Not really. The Fargo has quite a bit more fork rake (50-55mm vs. 38 to 46
for a typical 29er), with a slacker head angle (70* to 71* vs 71* to 73*).
Also, it has more bottom bracket drop and the chainstays are on the long
side. And of course, the top tube and head tube are kind of whacky, since
On Sep 11, 5:39 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net
wrote:
Hi!
snip I decided to simply
use a B17 to begin with. I like it fine. But I wonder if a Team Pro
would be even better.
Thomas,
I like the B17s better than the old Team Pro's for longer rides.
YMMV. See if you can
This Sackville bag is sold. -- Forrest
On Sep 11, 9:26 am, Forrest ftme...@me.com wrote:
Posted this a week or so ago with some other bags. Like new, barely
used. Was $140 with shipping; now $130 including shipping (CONUSA).
Sackville Medium (olive green cotton duck). $130
Photos contained
Ken -- I can't speak to the cost difference . . . maybe the labor?
Quality of materials? Currency exchange rates? I also couldn't say
that the Sackville is so much better than the Zimbale and Carradice,
but it is darned good. I don't think I've ever seen a sturdier, better-
loooking, or
If this goes to someone here I would be more willing to drop the price
a good deal. If anyone is interested at all shoot me a message and
maybe we can work something out. I would rather sell here than ebay.
On Sep 11, 2:36 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote:
Forgot to mention that
Hi All,
Got my new Rodeo a couple weeks ago, have ridden up, down and all around.
Wanted to post some pix before it gets too mucked up. Nothing rides better
than a Rivendell. My 5th Rivendell and the most beautiful by far.
Cane Creek Classic headset
Ultegra rear front der hubs
Just beautiful. Good choices, beautiful bike. I need one like an extra hole
in my head. . .
david blessing, elwood, ne
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 14:56:04 +
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Subject: [RBW] My new Rodeo
Hi All,
Got my new Rodeo a
Very nice. Understated, almost. I like it a lot. Why a triple instead of a
compact double? Colorado?
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DB, what a great bike!
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Very nice. Understated, almost. I like it a lot. Why a triple instead of
a compact double? Colorado?
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On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Very nice. Understated, almost. I like it a lot. Why a triple instead of
a compact double? Colorado?
I have a Roadeo too, and mine has a triple crank too. Can someone
explain why I would have wanted a compact double
Anne -- if you are asking me, you're asking the wrong guy. I haven't a clue!
I
was just sort of thinking that fast road bikes usually are fitted with
doubles. I have a canti-Rom fitted with a triple that I consider my fast
roadie, but have often wondered if there is a significant difference
Dave, great looking bike! I love the whimsical lugs; they use the
those on the Legolas too. I like the use of the burrito wrap for
repair stuff outside of the banana bag. I think I will copy that for
my go-fast setup.
Anne, a 34/36-48/50 double with a 12-27 cassette yields a low gear in
the
Anne, a 34/36-48/50 double with a 12-27 cassette yields a low gear in
the mid-30s inches and lets you keep the crispsimple-shifting short
cage derailers. I have found even as a middle-age office worker that
mid-30 gears will get me comfortably up anything (paved) here in
Western Colorado.
I
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Subject: [RBW] My new Rodeo
Hi All,
Got my new Rodeo a couple weeks ago, have ridden up, down and all around. Wanted to post some pix before it gets
Nice color combo (I like better than the white) and BEAUTIFUL lug
accents. And of course... the headbadge! Very nice.
On Sep 12, 12:43 pm, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote:
Anne, a 34/36-48/50 double with a 12-27 cassette yields a low gear in
the mid-30s inches and lets you keep
As a former (but very satisfied) Fargo owner, I hope to give a pretty
fair comparison in a few weeks, after I get my Bombadil rolling. In
the mean time as Eric said, the Fargo is very confidence-inspiring on
downhills... It was the first bike I felt comfortable just letting go
of and bombing
I actually prefer the B17-N or any of the narrower Brooks saddles.
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 7:09 PM, LF fie...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sep 11, 5:39 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net
wrote:
Hi!
snip I decided to simply
use a B17 to begin with. I like it fine. But I wonder if
Didn't want to hijack Dave's post about his new Rodeo -
congratulations Dave; I hope it brings you a gazillion miles of joy,
even more in the riding than admiring it's beauty. BTW, I think
you'll like the fazik tape; I've been using it on my Ram for the past
6 years and have found it quite
I'm curious (since you went classic vs modern) what the weight of the
bike ended up being.
On Sep 12, 1:03 pm, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com
wrote:
Nice color combo (I like better than the white) and BEAUTIFUL lug
accents. And of course... the headbadge! Very nice.
On Sep 12,
I also prefer the B17 over the Pro on bikes with handlebar on level or lower
than the saddle. The Pro model seems to be stiffer perhaps not because it
has thicker leather but because of its narrower design. I don't have a
Swallow but I think the reason it is more pleasant on the butt is that it is
Weight of bike? Don't know and don't care. And don't mean to sound mean, I
just really don't care what it weighs.
Dave Nawrocki
Fort Collins, CO
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Dave,
A very nice looking bike with an interesting build. I think the paint
job and pin striping look fantastic. This should be a very nice ride
around the Fort Collins area (I used to live in Boulder, and
subsequently Longmont, CO).
Jim Cloud
Tucson, AZ
On Sep 12, 7:56 am, nawr...@comcast.net
From Wallbike, on Flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wallblog/sets/72157624333065377/with/4777148941/
- Chris
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Wow me too! The mountain paved roads in Colorado are generally in the
4-8% range, with only a few over 10%.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_mountain_passes
I guess I'm just a weakling here. Mid-30 gears don't do it for me when
the grade gets above around 10-12%.
-- Anne Paulson
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My 62cm Legolas (similar or same tubing to the Roadeo) with brifters,
road wheels (32h Open Pro, Conti 28mm tires), Berthoud touring leather
saddle, saddle bag, repair kit, mini-pump, mini front and rear lights,
brass bell, and empty water bottles weighs 25lbs 4oz. A weight with
anything less on
In addition to the Trek resto-rod TX500 frame, I have a few things
to part out:
Trek 64cm TX500 frame, fork, HS and custom Blackburn rando rack. New
paint. Paul braze-on mounts. $850 shipped.
Suntour XC Pro 26.8 seatpost. $30 shipped.
Suntour Superbe Pro levers - new (mounted once) with diacomp
OH, and a NOS Campy downtube cable guide. Nice chrome. $10 shipped.
Marty
On Sep 12, 1:54 pm, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote:
In addition to the Trek resto-rod TX500 frame, I have a few things
to part out:
Trek 64cm TX500 frame, fork, HS and custom Blackburn rando rack. New
paint. Paul
On Sep 12, 2:15 pm, nawr...@comcast.net wrote:
Weight of bike? Don't know and don't care. And don't mean to sound mean, I
just really don't care what it weighs.
I understand. I was asking because I am going to order a Roadeo and
was wondering how much weight going classic would add. I am
Lovely, Dave. I'm envious. I really like the color scheme. Enjoy! --
Forrest
On Sep 12, 9:56 am, nawr...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi All,
Got my new Rodeo a couple weeks ago, have ridden up, down and all around.
Wanted to post some pix before it gets too mucked up. Nothing rides better
than
Bought last year off this list (2nd owner). I'm moving and need to
cull the herd. Bike is in very nice shape. I've only put about 500
miles on it since I bought it. From the original posting:
57cm Bleriot f/f/105 h.s.
Rich-built wheels with LX hubs and Col de la Vies, fatty rumpkins
and Grand
Bought last year off this list (2nd owner). I'm moving and need to
cull the herd. Bike is in very nice shape. I've only put about 500
miles on it since I bought it. From the original posting:
57cm Bleriot f/f/105 h.s.
Rich-built wheels with LX hubs and Col de la Vies, fatty rumpkins
and Grand
Hey Forrest,
Did you ever go camping with the Medium? If so, was it big enough? If
you fill it up, does it sag enough to require support, rack or bagman
or similar? The Medium looks like the perfect size for commuting, but
a bit small for S24Os. Would you say that's so? It'd be great to
Thanks for this at-length summary; I look forward to the comparison
with the Bombadil. One quality that the Fargo has that the Rivs,
AFAIK, don't have, is huge room for 65s plus fenders plus mud.
I am happy with the Fargo; one reason -- among many -- is that it is a
relatively cheap bike that
Johnny,
No offense at all here. Email is not my #1 way to communicate, and I really
kinda suck at it. Its just that weight was not a major concern/care when
ordering this bike.
Dave Nawrocki
Fort Collins, CO
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From: Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net
Rob, everyone:
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 12:35, Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com wrote:
Did you ever go camping with the Medium? If so, was it big enough? If you
fill it up, does it sag enough to require support, rack or bagman or
similar?
I can't speak specifically to the SaddleSack Medium, but
johnny,
i have a 'classic' build on my 57 cm Roadeo (8-speed campy, jack brown
greens, ergo brifters, nitto stem, seat post, brooks saddle, touring
pedals, mavic wheels, etc.) and it weighs in right at 22 pounds (w/o
bags or water bottle, etc.).
-kim
On Sep 12, 12:47 pm, Johnny Alien
Anne-
My wife and I also live in Colorado and both of us have triple cranks on
our Roadeos. Debbie's gearing is a 24-36-46 crank with 12-28 cassette.
My crank is 26-40-50 with a 13-29 cassette. So our low gears are quite
low, mid-twenties in gear inches. Yes, we can find paved roads with
Forget about that bike (Indian or Chinese-made DL-1 copy) -- how about
that helmet!?
Esteban
San Diego, Calif.
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On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 10:47 AM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote:
Didn't want to hijack Dave's post about his new Rodeo -
congratulations Dave; I hope it brings you a gazillion miles of joy,
even more in the riding than admiring it's beauty. BTW, I think
you'll like
Rob -- I did not try camping with the Sackville medium. I did do a
couple weekend credit-card tours with it (and an Acorn handlebar bag).
I didn't need to, but I supported it with a Nitto Top Rack (R14).
I would think the medium Sackville could work well for weekend camping
if you have
On Sep 12, 12:43 pm, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote:
Anne, a 34/36-48/50 double with a 12-27 cassette yields a low gear in
the mid-30s inches and lets you keep the crispsimple-shifting short
cage derailers. I have found even as a middle-age office worker that
mid-30 gears will
Eric,
My 1991 Miyata Exerciser is set up this way.
Dura-Ace in the front; XTR in the back.
Works perfectly.
Unfortunately, there are hills around Naples, New York, that I can't
climb with a 39/34.
Oh, well,
Bob
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Dave,
That is one gorgeous bike. Thanks to Grant for designing it, and
thanks to you for posting the photos.
This tread also includes comments about bike weight. I noticed earlier
today on the Waterford site -- where they have scans of historic
Schwinn brochures -- that my 1961 Schwinn American
For reference and comparison, my Rammy with:
32-spoke Open Pro Rims
Ritchey Logic Mountain triple crank
Deore XT/Ultegra drivetrain
11-34 9 speed cassette
Dura Ace hubs
Ritchey Force Stem
Thomson seatpost
Specialized Toupe Saddle
Noodle bars
Jack Brown Green tires
weighs about 23.5 lbs, if I
yes, that Roadeo is very nicely done. My size too... can you box it up
and send it to California? ;-}
One of the problems I've found with the 50-34 compacts is that I
really like riding in a 39 or 40 ring most of the time on a roadish
bike. The solution for me is a 50-40-28 (Camp) with an 11-30
Do you find yourself in the 44 most of the time on flatter terrain?
It seems like you would rarely use the 30t ring except climbing.
The compacts give you a comparable range to some triples but there are
some drawback IMO. I like a bigger high end than 44-11. I just can't
hang with guys on
How do you like the Disc brakes? Any consideration of the more
Roadish Salsa Vaya over the more MTBish Fargo? if so what was the
deciding factor(s) max tire size- terrain to be ridden- other? Just
curious
On Sep 11, 1:15 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
I just built up the Fargo
I have a Sackville Medium SaddleSack and a Carradice Nelson LF and
much prefer the SaddleSack. It packs stuff better and holds more
stuff. Don't get me wrong, I love Carradice stuff but SaddleSack is
just a bit nicer and works fine without a support. I recently did an
S24O with just a sleeping
Wow that is beautiful the painting of the lugs is just .wow
My 2 cents on Triples vs compact doubles. I have a 46-36-26 on my
steel all round bike BUT if I was going the Roadeo route I would opt
for the Compact 50/34 with a 11-32 cassette. A road standard 52-42-30
with 12-27 yields a 29
What a great looking bike!
Now I want a Roadeo more than ever.
-JImD
On Sep 12, 2010, at 7:56 AM, nawr...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi All,
Got my new Rodeo a couple weeks ago, have ridden up, down and all
around. Wanted to post some pix before it gets too mucked up.
Nothing rides better
Fantastic!
We should discuss helmets now.
-JImD
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Many ways to gear your bike. All of them okay for someone in some
terrain.
I still dig a 26/44/48 plus a 13-32 7sp FW. The only time I need the
26 is on the monster hills.
All 7 cogs are usable in the 44, which is awesome.
If I needed a low Q crank and all, a compact drive may be okay for the
Glad you like it so far. Would like to see photos, if you wouldn't
mind.
Part of this whole discussion is going to be made moot, as the Fargo
is undergoing a change that some will find significant. Although I'm
not positive on all the details, it will supposedly be less a touring
bike.
As to
I have a feeling the Fargo may be taking much much fatter tires in the
future. Apparently it's also going to be suspension corrected. Seemed
pretty nice just the way it was. I kind of wish they made a canti
version of it...
The QBP product I've really been drawn to lately has been the 60cm LHT
The disks are BB7 mountains, far, far better than the BB7 roads I have
on the Monocog. They work very well with the very comfortable Cane
Creen V brake levers.
I don't know the Vaya. As far as the reason for dropping everything to
buy a Fargo, it was learning (1) that it had a lower bb and
Agree. Very nice looking. And I'm not usually swayed by fast type
road bikes. That bike and build are top-notch, though.
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
On Sep 12, 7:21 pm, JimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote:
What a great looking bike!
Now I want a Roadeo more than ever.
-JImD
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FWIW ... the Bombadil won't take a 65mm tire. It's not intended to.
Fork clearance is about 64mm, the rear is about the same. This is tube
to tube, but you gotta leave some clearance room, hence it's spec'd at
2.3 , or 58.4mm for tire clearance. Actual tire width of course, and
this varies a lot
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote:
and FWIW, I've had no issues using a short cage derailer with a 30t in
the back. I'm sure a 32 would work too.
I've run a short cage Ultegra rd on a mountain bike (long hangar) with
a 14-32 7 sp and it worked fine
On Sep 12, 7:31 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote:
Do you find yourself in the 44 most of the time on flatter terrain?
It seems like you would rarely use the 30t ring except climbing.
Yes, I am in the 44 most of the time, and do far fewer front end
shifts. But surprisingly I
Spent the weekend doing two different group rides. The Jesse James
Bike Tour from Northfield, MN on Saturday and the St. Paul Bike
Classic today. Besides my Sam Hillborne, saw, and spoke to, an
Atlantis owner on the Jesse James. Weather was good, but for a decent
west wind. Glad only rode the
Pick the gearing that works best most of the time, and don't fret
about the rest. Running 46T/30T compact with 12-27 gives all the
gears and shifting patterns I need. Maybe not enough gear inches to
pedal down a ridiculously fast downhill, but then maybe it's time to
coast and enjoy the ride.
Bike is sold pending payment.
On Sep 12, 3:25 pm, Gene Novark gnov...@gmail.com wrote:
Bought last year off this list (2nd owner). I'm moving and need to
cull the herd. Bike is in very nice shape. I've only put about 500
miles on it since I bought it. From the original posting:
57cm
This makes a bunch of sense unless you live in hilly country and/or
are old and fat as I am. My own recent change (which I am excited
about) has been to use a mountain triple 44x32x22 with a 12-32 seven
speed. There are some climbs in my area where I do use the 22 tooth
front ring in order to save
Nice looking setup and I agree about buying American when possible.
On Sep 12, 10:47 am, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote:
Didn't want to hijack Dave's post about his new Rodeo -
congratulations Dave; I hope it brings you a gazillion miles of joy,
even more in the riding than admiring it's
I've run a short cage Ultegra rd on a mountain bike (long hangar) with
a 14-32 7 sp and it worked fine until the drivetrain got cluttered
with sand.
Sorry to hijack the thread - although the answer here may help the OP
- but I wonder if the Patricks have any notion what is going on with
my
I also find that I can stay in my 44 ring and ride over many of the
rollers in my area. Perhaps I am experiencing a similar thing due to
the fact that I am usually only using the 44 and 32 rings and only use
the 22 when I really need it. I'm only two teeth off from your compact
double so perhaps I
I forgot to mention that on this ride yesterday
http://www.highlandercycletour.com/
on September 11, 2010 (ominous), I dropped my chain going into the big
ring (46) halfway through the ride.
I decided to see how far I could get with just the 30/24 granny and
the 36/13 middle and the
FWIW, I took a couple quick pix of my B17 and Swift:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/ Other than narrower, you can
(kinda') see the similar shape.
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Chris Halasz chal...@gmail.com wrote:
From Wallbike, on Flickr:
Thanks, all. I think what I'm hearing leads me to believe the shape of
the Team Pro is the biggest risk for me; in fact, big enough not to
experiment right now. On today's 20+ mile ride, my B17 felt great.
Maybe better than on my last rude. But I'm losing interest in trying
the Team Pro.
Thanks
On Sep 12, 2010, at 7:55 PM, EricP wrote:
Spent the weekend doing two different group rides. The Jesse James
Bike Tour from Northfield, MN on Saturday and the St. Paul Bike
Classic today. Besides my Sam Hillborne, saw, and spoke to, an
Atlantis owner on the Jesse James. Weather was good,
I like to go fast when I'm in the mood! We have one ride that has a
gradual 10 mile long downhill that follows a nice creek. It's fun to
push a big gear and go. Even on Jack Browns. Some of us on Rivendells
like to motor and some just cruise... for each his own.
~Mike~
On Sep 12, 5:55 pm,
Mike, that's a great looking setup with the Medium SS. I might have
to investigate that as an alternative to the Carradice. Nice to hear
from someone that has used both, as I was merely speculating based on
the listed capacities.
Have a great time on your 3 day trip, sounds like it will be
Hey Johnny,
Downtube shifters are more classic than barcons and lighter too. A triple
really isn't classic, and the bottom bracket and cranks are both heavier
than a traditional double or compact double.
Regards, Doug
P.S. No slight intended, but it seems to me like a lot of Roadeos are being
Thanks Stewart, Mike and Forrest, that is all immensely helpful. I'm
moving in the ultralight direction, so my gear is getting more compact
as well as getting lighter. A Sackville Medium and a Platrack could be
just the ticket for S24Os, and for credit card touring I substitute
the Lil'
I need help. How do you measure the size of Nitto Randoneur model
136AA? When the size says 42, does it mean the width of the top or the
flared drop? I read it somewhere but I forgot.
Thanks.
Rene
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