Re: [RBW] Re: Introduction

2013-02-27 Thread Deacon Patrick
Thanks, David. I may have seen those and just not remember them. Same concept, but mine are a test pair made by the founder of Bullseye Pedals, so the wood deck is screwed in and wiggle/click out free. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 6:39:29 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com

Re: [RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?

2013-02-27 Thread Garth
Not likely Mike, Do you recall how the Taiwan Atlantis's were hit a peak of 3000$ ? On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:10:52 PM UTC-5, Mike Schiller wrote: yes... budget means different things to all of us. With US built Riv's over $2000 now, perhaps an Atlantis like Riv made in Taiwan

Re: [RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?

2013-02-27 Thread Leslie
On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:12:57 AM UTC-5, Garth wrote: Not likely Mike, Do you recall how the Taiwan Atlantis's were hit a peak of 3000$ ? That was the Toyo Atlantis from Japan, not Taiwan. I think, we just need to see what Grant/Keven come up with, maybe later this

Re: [RBW] Re: Front Rack ideas

2013-02-27 Thread Ron Mc
strap to the bar is a good idea. It's also the reason I like the Bertoud decaleur design with a boxy bag - load sharing with the bar/stem. On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 9:14:23 PM UTC-6, Shoji Takahashi wrote: For added peace of mind, take an Irish strap or two and loop it between the

Re: [RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?

2013-02-27 Thread Garth
Oh yes lol.. Japan. Is the Taiwan exchange rate much better though ? IDK On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:08:50 AM UTC-5, Leslie wrote: On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:12:57 AM UTC-5, Garth wrote: Not likely Mike, Do you recall how the Taiwan Atlantis's were hit a peak of

Re: [RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?

2013-02-27 Thread Ron Mc
mostly, cost of living for the labor is lower On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:12:04 AM UTC-6, Garth wrote: Oh yes lol.. Japan. Is the Taiwan exchange rate much better though ? IDK -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners

Re: [RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?

2013-02-27 Thread Leslie
On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:12:04 AM UTC-5, Garth wrote: Oh yes lol.. Japan. Is the Taiwan exchange rate much better though ? IDK As Ron said, it's the labor, in large part. Grant has on several occasions said he wouldn't mind getting bikes made by Toyo in Japan again;

Re: [RBW] Re: Introduction

2013-02-27 Thread cyclotourist
If you ever need a new set, you know where to go! On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 3:53 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Thanks, David. I may have seen those and just not remember them. Same concept, but mine are a test pair made by the founder of Bullseye Pedals, so the wood deck is

Re: [RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?

2013-02-27 Thread thalasin
I'd be all in for a budget version of the Atlantis, as that's the bike I've always wanted but just can't afford. I tried to make do with a LHT, but I never liked the bike and am getting rid of it. It's the Rivendell ride I'm in search of, so if it actually comes to fruition, I'm in

Re: [RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?

2013-02-27 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Tracy -- asking to add more data to my store: what exactly do you find absent in the ride of the LHT that you find in Rivendells' ride (= comfort?) and handling? I'd love to have a Riv ride mated to my Fargo, whose handling is mediocre, but I put up with the Fargo for its other virtues. (Note one

Re: [RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?

2013-02-27 Thread thalasin
I really wish I could have a long-term, head-to-head ride comparison of both bikes. And maybe I had unrealistic expectations of a touring bike, and maybe the fit on the LHT just wasn't right for me. But I gave it a go for 3 years and am giving up the ghost. I have a Rambouillet, and the ride

Re: [RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?

2013-02-27 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Interesting; thanks. I've owned at least one bike (12-speed-era Fuji Royale) that handled better with a heavy rear load than unladen. Of course, there are so many variables here that classification is difficult if not impossible, but I find such experiences as yours interesting. The Fargo

Re: [RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?

2013-02-27 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
If your baseline is the Rambouillet, which has a fairly zippy, lively ride, both the LHT and the Atlantis will seem similarly ponderous and sluggish. That said, I've never felt that the LHT was a poor man's Atlantis, because the LHT is more truck-like than the Atlantis. To me, my Cross-check

Re: [RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?

2013-02-27 Thread Peter Pesce
I have a LHT and it too feels dead unloaded. I'm thinking it's somewhat related to Jan Heine's thoughts on frame flex and responsiveness. The LHT frame seems overly stiff unloaded, as it's built to haul, but comes to life (a bit, at least) for me when some weight is on it. Kind of like a pickup

Re: [RBW] Re: Introduction

2013-02-27 Thread Philip Williamson
Patrick, you have the Original Gangsta pedals! That's really cool. I'd like to see a picture of them on your bike, if you have one. I'm pretty sure they were the seeds in my brain that led to screwing cleats to wooden decks. Do you find that there's something about the wood that makes it

[RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?

2013-02-27 Thread thalasin
I do have a Cross-Check that's currently set up as a fixed gear, so when the LHT is sold, I plan on adding gears (gasp) and moving it over to road duty. Your comparison of the CC/Atlantis ride quality gives me optimism! On Feb 27, 9:50 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote:

[RBW] Re: Saluki frameset for sale 650b

2013-02-27 Thread hobie
Frame was sold. On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:06:27 AM UTC-5, hobie wrote: Pea Sage Green 58cm 650b sidepull/centerpull Saluki 3 water bottle making it a Waterford built frameset, correct me if I'm wrong on that one. I'm the original owner and purchased it from The CountryBbike Shop in

RE: [RBW] Ride Review: The Appaloosa

2013-02-27 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
I couldn't be much happier than I am with my Proto-App - but if I could be happier, it would have the RCW tweaks. Especially clearance for fatter tires with fenders - spacing on mine is definitely adequate, but wouldn't qualify as generous. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com

Re: [RBW] Re: Introduction

2013-02-27 Thread Deacon Patrick
Hey Philip. No idea about the Original Gangsta pedals, but these are what I have: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-fQZmZzfs3-8/US5IgcyMCII/AbM/9VboNvNoktE/s1600/IMG_0861.JPG https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-FizRDFcj4Co/US5Ito6bwdI/AbU/XifW0RCgiBU/s1600/IMG_0862.JPG

[RBW] Re: 4 struts on a Mark's rack on a Betty

2013-02-27 Thread Earl Grey
Chris, thanks for the photo. Actually I meant the opposite: Attaching both struts to the outside of the rack, but one to the outside of the fork, and the other to the inside of the fork. But your solution seems equally interesting. The photo strangely looks like all the struts are straight,

[RBW] Re: 4 struts on a Mark's rack on a Betty

2013-02-27 Thread William
Make more stronger! :) On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:55:34 AM UTC-8, Earl Grey wrote: Chris, thanks for the photo. Actually I meant the opposite: Attaching both struts to the outside of the rack, but one to the outside of the fork, and the other to the inside of the fork. But your

[RBW] Re: Ride Review: The Appaloosa

2013-02-27 Thread Montclair BobbyB
WOW, with that configuration you should call it your Appa-palooza... Cantis and 26 in fatties... NICE!!! On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 6:51:52 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote: This bike is •the bomb*. I think there's the impression out in the cloud that suggests it's a cruiser built for flat-lands.

[RBW] FS: 59cm Bleriot Frame/Fork/HS/BB/etc.

2013-02-27 Thread colinthehippie
For your consideration, one much loved 59cm Bleriot in typical condition (photos available upon request). Includes a Campognolo headset, dirty bottom bracket, and Dia-Compe centerpull brakes (if you want em - I recommend em). Scratches / dings here and there, but otherwise every bit the

[RBW] Re: Ride Review: The Appaloosa

2013-02-27 Thread William
More likely when she organizes a Rally for all Rivendell longbikers, she'll call the event Appa-palooza. On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 1:50:12 PM UTC-8, Montclair BobbyB wrote: WOW, with that configuration you should call it your Appa-palooza... Cantis and 26 in fatties... NICE!!! On

[RBW] Re: East Bay Mixed Terrain Ride 3/3 9:30ish

2013-02-27 Thread ted
If you are going with knobbies, you might enjoy taking Pleasanton Ridge's Thermalito trail north out of Sunol instead of going up Kilkare. On Feb 26, 8:50 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: OK.  I'll put the knobbies back on the Rawland and rock that.  See you Sunday! -- You received this

[RBW] Re: Ride Review: The Appaloosa

2013-02-27 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Indeed... yet I somehow can't imagine Liesl organizing a big ride without it becoming RivChica-palooza... On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:34:15 PM UTC-5, William wrote: More likely when she organizes a Rally for all Rivendell longbikers, she'll call the event Appa-palooza. On

Re: [RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?

2013-02-27 Thread Eric Platt
Will also chime in and say that the ride quality of the Cross Check is more similar to the Atlantis than the LHT. Have a Cross Check, LHT and used to have an Atlantis. That said, everyone feels different about different bikes. Patrick Moore seems to find the Fargo sluggish, yet when I had one

Re: [RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?

2013-02-27 Thread Bertin753
Patrick Moore iPhone On Feb 27, 2013, at 6:36 PM, Eric Platt epericmpl...@gmail.com wrote: That said, everyone feels different about different bikes. Patrick Moore seems to find the Fargo sluggish, yet when I had one it felt like the most nimble bike I owned. Even moreso than the

Re: [RBW] Ride Review: The Appaloosa

2013-02-27 Thread John Blish
Congratulations. And I will get to see you on it. Can't wait. So glad you were able to visit RBW and had such a great time. -jb On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 5:51 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote: This bike is •the bomb*. I think there's the impression out in the cloud that suggests it's a

[RBW] Re: East Bay Mixed Terrain Ride 3/3 9:30ish

2013-02-27 Thread Manuel Acosta
Thanks Ted. I thought I mapped that out. I've always made it up to get to the other side of Pleasanton Ridge. Any particular trails that you would recommend? On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 4:30:21 PM UTC-8, ted wrote: If you are going with knobbies, you might enjoy taking Pleasanton

[RBW] Re: Recently joined the group; and now a new Riv [frame] owner

2013-02-27 Thread Manuel Acosta
Welcome to the slippery slope of picking bike parts. Be sure to take pictures of the build. On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 6:15:55 PM UTC-8, Tom Goodmann wrote: Just over an hour ago, I snagged the last Sam Hillborne frame from Riv at the sale price; I'm going to wait on the build a bit and

[RBW] Re: Recently joined the group; and now a new Riv [frame] owner

2013-02-27 Thread Big Paulie
The thing about builds for a Rivendell frame is that you can try a lot of variations over a period of months, or even years, and the frame maximizes each combination. So if you approach it as a long term project and don't count pennies too closely, it becomes a fun learning experience. -- You

[RBW] Re: Recently joined the group; and now a new Riv [frame] owner

2013-02-27 Thread IanA
Naturally, we are all eagerly awaiting photos. On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 7:15:55 PM UTC-7, Tom Goodmann wrote: Just over an hour ago, I snagged the last Sam Hillborne frame from Riv at the sale price; I'm going to wait on the build a bit and think over drops, moustaches, or albies, but

[RBW] FS: Dura Ace 7800 wheels with Synergy Rim, build by Rich at Rivendell $300 shipped

2013-02-27 Thread RonLau
To all, Time to let this go, have this for 3 months and just don't need it. It was on my wife's bike but she likes what she has now (who am I to argue) So here it is. Dura Ace 7800 Front, 32 spokes, Synergy 700c Dura Ace 7850 Rear, 32 spokes, Synergy Asym. 700c. Build by Rich at Rivendell.

Re: [RBW] Recently joined the group; and now a new Riv [frame] owner

2013-02-27 Thread Dan McNamara
Thanks for saving me from picking up another frame. Looking forward to some pictures when you get it built! Dan -Marin On Feb 26, 2013, at 6:15 PM, Tom Goodmann tgoodm...@gmail.com wrote: Just over an hour ago, I snagged the last Sam Hillborne frame from Riv at the sale price; I'm going to

[RBW] Re: Recently joined the group; and now a new Riv [frame] owner

2013-02-27 Thread frank_a
Hello Tom, Welcome to the group. I'm in the Ft. Lauderdale area. I've got a garage full of Rivendells. Feel free to contact me if you want to try something out. - Frank On Feb 26, 9:15 pm, Tom Goodmann tgoodm...@gmail.com wrote: Just over an hour ago, I snagged the last Sam Hillborne frame from

[RBW] Re: East Bay Mixed Terrain Ride 3/3 9:30ish

2013-02-27 Thread ted
I haven't ridden the southern most section of the Thermalito trail, just the stuff from the foothill staging area north. I expect its fairly wide and smooth though perhaps steep. From the map it looks like a small road off foothill just west of Kilkare dead ends at the south end of Thermalito.

Re: [RBW] Re: East Bay Mixed Terrain Ride 3/3 9:30ish

2013-02-27 Thread Jim Mather
If one were to go to the northern boundary of Pleasanton Ridge Park, it looks like one could hop a fence and get to Dublin Canyon Rd on what might not be an official trail. That would allow you to continue northwards without sidetracking too much. Of course, one would need to be willing to ride on

[RBW] Re: Recently joined the group; and now a new Riv [frame] owner

2013-02-27 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
Shout out form the opposite corner of the country...well, not exactly the corner but close enough. +1 for pics of the build. Even just a pic of the frame sitting in your living room is good. --Smitty in PDX On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 6:15:55 PM UTC-8, Tom Goodmann wrote: Just over an hour

[RBW] Re: FS Feeler 63cm Roadeo RCP

2013-02-27 Thread rperks
Thank you to all of you who took the time to look through the pictures, the Roadeo will be heading to a new home early next week - Rob On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 7:08:04 PM UTC-8, Tim wrote: I thought I replied to you off list yesterday or Sunday, Rob. Maybe you didn't get it. Anyway, I'm

Re: [RBW] Re: Front Rack ideas

2013-02-27 Thread Earl Grey
Agreed that 4 struts on a Mark's are key, which is why I am surprised that apparently no-one has thought of mounting the second set of struts to the inside of the hourglass brazeon on the fork (see related thread: 4 struts on a Mark's). Chris Chen thought of mounting the rear set of struts to