[RBW] Re: Legolas!
On Sunday, March 17, 2013 2:57:14 PM UTC-7, samh wrote: Hello, Is there anyone who could state in plain English what this thread is about? From the email newsletter, there is a mention that a heretofore discontinued model - the Legolas - is available for order. Legolas was the production model of Mark's CX Custom frameset. One of the reasonably rare production runs. As the Lord of the Rings movies gained steam, there were some moves to prevent anyone from using names which were also found in the book - Quickbeam, Legolas, Bombadil, for example. So, those names were phased out. Examples of Legolas bicycles: http://www.cyclofiend.com/cx/2010/cx063-jimmather0510.html http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/7360011042/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/301685603/ http://www.cyclofiend.com/cx/2009/cx049-maxie0309.html http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/508855830/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/301689556/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/507738966/ Hope that helps, - J / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Legolas!
Orlando Bloom Appreciation Society. On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Cyclofiend Jim cyclofi...@earthlink.netwrote: On Sunday, March 17, 2013 2:57:14 PM UTC-7, samh wrote: Hello, Is there anyone who could state in plain English what this thread is about? From the email newsletter, there is a mention that a heretofore discontinued model - the Legolas - is available for order. Legolas was the production model of Mark's CX Custom frameset. One of the reasonably rare production runs. As the Lord of the Rings movies gained steam, there were some moves to prevent anyone from using names which were also found in the book - Quickbeam, Legolas, Bombadil, for example. So, those names were phased out. Examples of Legolas bicycles: http://www.cyclofiend.com/cx/2010/cx063-jimmather0510.html http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/7360011042/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/301685603/ http://www.cyclofiend.com/cx/2009/cx049-maxie0309.html http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/508855830/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/301689556/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/507738966/ Hope that helps, - J / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: In Praise of The Rambo
Had that experience with my orange Ram when I rode the Five Boro in NYC two years ago, my wife asked if I knew that 32,000 adoring fans of my bike would be present. Couple weeks ago during a ride on a day predicted correctly to be a bright and 50-ish day each time the group stopped someone commented. At the conclusion of the ride another rider actually asked if she could and did take pictures of my bikes lugs and head badge. CF riders standing with their uniformly anonymous monocoque bikes in stunned observation. To mount additional frustration in the team kit all-lycra camp, another asked where I got the 3/4s I was wearing they look like they make so much sense with pockets. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Optimal clearance for metal fenders...
This post about how to figure out whether your bike can take metal fenders may be of interest: http://janheine.wordpress.com/2013/01/27/does-my-bike-take-fenders/ Jan Heine Editor Bicycle Quarterly www.bikequarterly.com Follow our blog at www.janheine.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Saluki Brake / Rack Mating Question
Michael, sorry I can't help, but you've helped me. I have the same brakes and rack on my daughter's bike. I don't like the Tektros much, because they seem to require too much attention - they have to be adjusted every time the weather changes. I was thinking about the Pauls, but you've convinced me to live with the adjustments. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: “Paleofantasy”: Stone Age delusions - Is Grant Eating the Wrong Stuff?
Here is a well thought out response from the author of the Perfect Health Diet. Paleofantasy and the State of Ancestral Sciencehttp://perfecthealthdiet.com/2013/03/paleofantasy-and-the-state-of-ancestral-science/ http://perfecthealthdiet.com/2013/03/paleofantasy-and-the-state-of-ancestral-science/ With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 5:55:21 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote: Thought this might be of interest to some on this list. I'm not an expert--or even an amateur--on the paleo living topic, but this article makes some interesting points. http://www.salon.com/2013/03/10/paleofantasy_stone_age_delusions/ --Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hupe or Fender for saddlebag support (if it rides too low)?
I don't know if I'm more impressed with the simple inginuity of your solution, or the artistry and composure of the snapshots. On Sunday, March 17, 2013 12:33:17 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: You can make something out of a wire hanger if you're just trying to protect the bag from rubbing on the cable: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/5853075601/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/5853624744/in/photostream/ Attach it to the seat stay braze-ons and good to go. Won't protect from rubbing on the fender/tire though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Bombadil v. 2.0 and new Fatty Rumpkins
I've been tinkering with a Rohloff build on my repainted Bombadil for a long time, trying to make an after-market eccentric bottom bracket work. It never came together satisfyingly, so I gave up and ordered a Rohloff chain tensioner. I built it up over the weekend - here it is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8567470700/in/photostream. And here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8567485276/in/photostream/ Those are the new Fatty Rumpkins, which ride really well - the toughness is not at much cost, in terms of ride quality. I'm really pleased with the build. In a 10 mile test ride yesterday, everything worked together seamlessly - except I haven't been able to shift into the lowest gear, meaning I have that unique 13 speed Rohloff. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Glorius and Wilbury
The original tentacular stays, right? Stay tentacular would be a good button. On Sunday, March 17, 2013 8:09:31 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: This has already been posted in Legolas!, but I thought it was worth its own thread. The Glorius and Wilbury with their super-fancy lugs are still available as customs. I want one! *http://www.flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/320216954/*http://www.flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/320216954/ Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Bombadil v. 2.0 and new Fatty Rumpkins
Holy COW!!! That is one serious lookin machine! It's like a unimog! I absolutely loved the Fatty Rumpkins when I had my Bleriot. I actually still have them despite no 650b bike. I also have to comment that I'm surprised there are not more black Rivendells out there. I think they look incredibly classy. This one is no exception. GREAT looking bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Legolas!
This Rivendell model (http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/2917695862/) is available again, but can't be advertised on the Rivendell website. Here's the plain English from the email newsletter: *Custom Frames, Old Models* Mark asked me to mention that the wait on Custom Rivendell frames is at an all time low of 6 months. That might seem like a long time but this is fully custom mind you, it takes a while, but there's nobody on the list almost except for Liesl who won the custom frame raffle. She came by and fell in love with the Appaloosa long-bike prototype and is going to get her custom in that vein. Before Betty and Yves, there was Glorious and Wilbury, the nicest mixtes ever made. The lugs were so fancy builders would mess up too often and we stopped production. You can still get them though, we have the fancy lugs but they're now deemed customs. See previous paragraph. Also, when the Lord of the Rings movies came out, some tangent of the Tolkein estate made us stop using the Legolas name on our staff-favorite lugged-steel-cross bikes and as the deal went down we can't have them marketed on the website. So we don't. But! People like them and we can still use the decals we have so if you want a really light canti-braked cross bike we can make it in Wisconsin for $2200. Call Mark if you're serious. Legolases now available: $2200, but not on the site. Philip www.biketinker.com On Sunday, March 17, 2013 2:57:14 PM UTC-7, samh wrote: Hello, Is there anyone who could state in plain English what this thread is about? Thanks. On Thursday, March 14, 2013 9:07:23 PM UTC-6, Peter M wrote: Dont tell the LOTR estate, its a hush hush deal... *Legolases now available: $2200, but not on the site*. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: All Rounder with Midge bar UPDATE
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote: and I certainly agree with you on hardtail 29ers... after going through a few full suspension bikes, a well designed 29er is the best MTB no question! Eh, I don't find them to be all that, personally. They do seem to work well for the people they work well for tho... Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Bombadil v. 2.0 and new Fatty Rumpkins
When I decide to go full minimalist, I will move to New England and bunk down happily splitting time between Peter Weigle's and Tom's workshops. On Monday, March 18, 2013 9:43:12 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote: I’ve been tinkering with a Rohloff build on my repainted Bombadil for a long time, trying to make an after-market eccentric bottom bracket work. It never came together satisfyingly, so I gave up and ordered a Rohloff chain tensioner. I built it up over the weekend – here it is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8567470700/in/photostream. And here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8567485276/in/photostream/ Those are the new Fatty Rumpkins, which ride really well – the toughness is not at much cost, in terms of ride quality. I’m really pleased with the build. In a 10 mile test ride yesterday, everything worked together seamlessly – except I haven’t been able to shift into the lowest gear, meaning I have that unique 13 speed Rohloff. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Saluki Brake / Rack Mating Question
It would be cool if you could get the canti-post struts separately so you could run a Mark's Rack with the canti-post mounting, but still had adjustable struts so you could accommodate high-stack brakes, like the Pauls. Unfortunately, it looks like you can only buy those struts in 70mm an 120mm lengths, which is not going to be long enough. That would have been a slick setup. http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=7978 On Sunday, March 17, 2013 8:25:33 PM UTC-7, William wrote: I would advise ditching the Paul brakes. The Tektros are fine and will play nice with the rack. If you have mid fork braze ons so that a Nitto Mini Front would fit, then that could present an option, but an M12 won't be any better on Paul brakes than that VO is. Paul has way too much stack up. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: In Praise of The Rambo
The orange Rambouillet is the best-looking bike ever. Fact. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Optimal clearance for metal fenders...
Bob, What size were the hammered fenders? The largest size I can find on the VO site is a 47 which could be the reason that a 47 tire would have difficulty fitting with sufficient clearance. If you really want metal fenders they have the Zeppelin style in 52, but that might even be a tight fit for Rene's 50 mm Duremes. Here's a link to their fender page. I http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/fenders.html?p=1 In the past my metal fenders have all been from VO and I've been happy with them. Aaron Young Vancouver, WA On Sunday, March 17, 2013, Robert Barr wrote: Rene, I struggled with the fenders on my Hunqapillar. My thoughtful wife bought me some hammered VOs as a gift because I had mentioned that I thought they would look great on the Hunq. And they would have - but with 47-622 Marathons there wasn't a mm to spare. My normal commute takes me down a gravel trail with stones and sticks. I fret the sticks more than the stones. After several attempts to fit the VOs (two sizes and lots of thinking..). I had to go back to my tried and true SKS. They worked best for me and where I ride. Good luck... Bob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Bombadil v. 2.0 and new Fatty Rumpkins
Holy Black Beauty, Batman The Black Bomba is *Da Bomb.* I mean, really. Makes me contemplate changing up my color scheme for the Appaloosa. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: In Praise of The Rambo
Not only that, but every bike that has ever been always rides better and rides faster when it is Orange. FACT On Monday, March 18, 2013 11:09:06 AM UTC-7, Evan wrote: The orange Rambouillet is the best-looking bike ever. Fact. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Optimal clearance for metal fenders...
Lovelybike has info on a Surly Cross Check with Fat Franks and VO Zeppelins. (Lots of pics.) http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2011/06/surly-cross-check-review-colourful.html She mentions: On the downside, the clearances between the tires and fenders are so tight, that the set-up is not really practical for serious off-road cycling: stuff can get caught in there and cause problems. But for fire trails and gravel paths it is fine... I don't think I would do this with knobbies. Good luck-- looking forward to the pics of the build. Shoji On Monday, March 18, 2013 2:09:53 PM UTC-4, AaronY wrote: Bob, What size were the hammered fenders? The largest size I can find on the VO site is a 47 which could be the reason that a 47 tire would have difficulty fitting with sufficient clearance. If you really want metal fenders they have the Zeppelin style in 52, but that might even be a tight fit for Rene's 50 mm Duremes. Here's a link to their fender page. I http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/fenders.html?p=1 In the past my metal fenders have all been from VO and I've been happy with them. Aaron Young Vancouver, WA On Sunday, March 17, 2013, Robert Barr wrote: Rene, I struggled with the fenders on my Hunqapillar. My thoughtful wife bought me some hammered VOs as a gift because I had mentioned that I thought they would look great on the Hunq. And they would have - but with 47-622 Marathons there wasn't a mm to spare. My normal commute takes me down a gravel trail with stones and sticks. I fret the sticks more than the stones. After several attempts to fit the VOs (two sizes and lots of thinking..). I had to go back to my tried and true SKS. They worked best for me and where I ride. Good luck... Bob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Bombadil v. 2.0 and new Fatty Rumpkins
Guinness, for health! Though it looks like Guinness, you are outfitted to carry whisky. Impressive. What's your preference? With abandon, Patrick On Monday, March 18, 2013 10:43:12 AM UTC-6, Pudge wrote: I’ve been tinkering with a Rohloff build on my repainted Bombadil for a long time, trying to make an after-market eccentric bottom bracket work. It never came together satisfyingly, so I gave up and ordered a Rohloff chain tensioner. I built it up over the weekend – here it is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8567470700/in/photostream. And here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8567485276/in/photostream/ Those are the new Fatty Rumpkins, which ride really well – the toughness is not at much cost, in terms of ride quality. I’m really pleased with the build. In a 10 mile test ride yesterday, everything worked together seamlessly – except I haven’t been able to shift into the lowest gear, meaning I have that unique 13 speed Rohloff. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil v. 2.0 and new Fatty Rumpkins
So wait Patrick, cavemen drank alcohol? I should go back and watch History of the World again...JK. On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Guinness, for health! Though it looks like Guinness, you are outfitted to carry whisky. Impressive. What's your preference? With abandon, Patrick On Monday, March 18, 2013 10:43:12 AM UTC-6, Pudge wrote: I’ve been tinkering with a Rohloff build on my repainted Bombadil for a long time, trying to make an after-market eccentric bottom bracket work. It never came together satisfyingly, so I gave up and ordered a Rohloff chain tensioner. I built it up over the weekend – here it is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/**37542512@N04/8567470700/in/**photostreamhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8567470700/in/photostream. And here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/**37542512@N04/8567485276/in/** photostream/http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8567485276/in/photostream/ Those are the new Fatty Rumpkins, which ride really well – the toughness is not at much cost, in terms of ride quality. I’m really pleased with the build. In a 10 mile test ride yesterday, everything worked together seamlessly – except I haven’t been able to shift into the lowest gear, meaning I have that unique 13 speed Rohloff. --**--**-- ** To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. ** ** This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. ** ==**==**== -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil v. 2.0 and new Fatty Rumpkins
BTW, as a fellow IGH and Bombadil guy I have to say that bike so dialed in and beautiful. It looks exciting just sitting still! I would love to take the Rohloff plunge but I have to wait for the Alfine hub to wear out first (at least that is what I am told by a certain someone). On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote: So wait Patrick, cavemen drank alcohol? I should go back and watch History of the World again...JK. On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.comwrote: Guinness, for health! Though it looks like Guinness, you are outfitted to carry whisky. Impressive. What's your preference? With abandon, Patrick On Monday, March 18, 2013 10:43:12 AM UTC-6, Pudge wrote: I’ve been tinkering with a Rohloff build on my repainted Bombadil for a long time, trying to make an after-market eccentric bottom bracket work. It never came together satisfyingly, so I gave up and ordered a Rohloff chain tensioner. I built it up over the weekend – here it is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/**37542512@N04/8567470700/in/**photostreamhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8567470700/in/photostream. And here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/**37542512@N04/8567485276/in/** photostream/http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8567485276/in/photostream/ Those are the new Fatty Rumpkins, which ride really well – the toughness is not at much cost, in terms of ride quality. I’m really pleased with the build. In a 10 mile test ride yesterday, everything worked together seamlessly – except I haven’t been able to shift into the lowest gear, meaning I have that unique 13 speed Rohloff. --**--**-- ** To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. ** ** This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. ** ==**==**== -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil v. 2.0 and new Fatty Rumpkins
After a hard day of persistence hunting, there was nothing like fermented tubers! Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, March 18, 2013 1:31:02 PM UTC-6, Peter M wrote: So wait Patrick, cavemen drank alcohol? I should go back and watch History of the World again...JK. On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comjavascript: wrote: Guinness, for health! Though it looks like Guinness, you are outfitted to carry whisky. Impressive. What's your preference? With abandon, Patrick On Monday, March 18, 2013 10:43:12 AM UTC-6, Pudge wrote: I’ve been tinkering with a Rohloff build on my repainted Bombadil for a long time, trying to make an after-market eccentric bottom bracket work. It never came together satisfyingly, so I gave up and ordered a Rohloff chain tensioner. I built it up over the weekend – here it is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/**37542512@N04/8567470700/in/**photostreamhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8567470700/in/photostream. And here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/**37542512@N04/8567485276/in/** photostream/http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8567485276/in/photostream/ Those are the new Fatty Rumpkins, which ride really well – the toughness is not at much cost, in terms of ride quality. I’m really pleased with the build. In a 10 mile test ride yesterday, everything worked together seamlessly – except I haven’t been able to shift into the lowest gear, meaning I have that unique 13 speed Rohloff. --**--**-- ** To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. ** ** This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. ** ==**==**== -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] RivReader asks if aluminum bars should be replaced after 5 years?
In a cool interview with Nitto exec Mr. Yoshikawa, Grant asks this question. Nitto exec leaves it up to consumer. So I was wondering if anything to be concerned about. Anyone know anything about aluminum bar life? Do I need to throw away the old used set of bars I have? Don't want any accidents. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil v. 2.0 and new Fatty Rumpkins
What a beast! Great stuff. I'm curious, what made you give up on the EBB? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] RivReader asks if aluminum bars should be replaced after 5 years?
I don't have any expertise regarding metallurgy - only my own experience riding bars that are 20+ years old. Upon visual inspection they appear fine and I've never noticed anything strange while riding with them. I plan to continue ring them until someone declares I'm completely nuts... which could theoretically happen at any time, right? Aaron Young Vancouver, WA On Monday, March 18, 2013, Michael wrote: In a cool interview with Nitto exec Mr. Yoshikawa, Grant asks this question. Nitto exec leaves it up to consumer. So I was wondering if anything to be concerned about. Anyone know anything about aluminum bar life? Do I need to throw away the old used set of bars I have? Don't want any accidents. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:;. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comjavascript:; . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil v. 2.0 and new Fatty Rumpkins
BEHOLD...BLACK BOMBA!! I can see this was well worth the effort... I especially love the black rims and silver spokes... Simply awesome!!! I hope you'll bring this on the Water Gap ride... ... along with the Mystery Bike, ... and your JP Weigle Raleigh... ... and your green Wilbury... Oh, nevermind... just bring the Bomba On Monday, March 18, 2013 4:10:28 PM UTC-4, Tom Harrop wrote: What a beast! Great stuff. I'm curious, what made you give up on the EBB? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: RivReader asks if aluminum bars should be replaced after 5 years?
I had a friend who broke his collarbone recently when his vintage cinelli bars snapped during a decent. I immediately thought about this. I did think it was 10 years though, right? - Ryan On Monday, March 18, 2013 12:50:43 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: In a cool interview with Nitto exec Mr. Yoshikawa, Grant asks this question. Nitto exec leaves it up to consumer. So I was wondering if anything to be concerned about. Anyone know anything about aluminum bar life? Do I need to throw away the old used set of bars I have? Don't want any accidents. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: 66cm Orange Rambouillet $1300 + shipping
Google says there is another post here but I can't see it not sure why. To answer some questions, the bike is in Seattle WA. I would actually prefer to sell the bike complete due to time constraints. Updated price: 1200 + shipping complete, $750 frame, fork, dura ace headset, BB. Thanks Ryan On Sunday, March 17, 2013 2:54:20 PM UTC-7, Ryan Ray wrote: I'm going to put this up frame only for 750 + shipping before putting it up on ebay. - Ryan On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 4:58:27 PM UTC-7, Ryan Ray wrote: I'm selling my 66cm orange Rambouillet for $1300 plus shipping. I plan on rolling it to recycled cycles where they will take it apart and box it up for $45 then ship it at cost. Some photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanrray/ 66 c to t Orange All parts less than 2 years old other than headset/bb/seat post. Xt rapid rise Big noodles Tektro levers Brand new tektro brakes, the new model XD2 triple Mks touring pedals New 32mm pasela TGs New sks p45s with a VO leather flap 105/open sport wheelset All new cables/housing I'm sure I'm forgetting some detail. If I get payment this week I can have it shipped this week as I'm not working this week because I had a baby last week. - Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: RivReader asks if aluminum bars should be replaced after 5 years?
You pose two questions: 1. Anyone know anything about aluminum bar life? I know a little bit about fatigue life of materials. Any metal that is cyclicly loaded will fatigue and fail eventually. Just about every metal has a similar look to it on an S-N curve (Wikipedia that for an explanation). The take home is that almost everything eventually wears out and fails. It's just a matter of when. Steel is a notable exception. If steel is cyclicly loaded at a low enough Stress, then it essentially never fatigues. Incredible stuff. Anyway, Aluminum does fatigue and fail...eventually. When? It depends on how much you are stressing it and how many cycles you put on it daily. 2. Do I need to throw away the old used set of bars I have? Nitto is going to say what they say because they generate these S-N curves and test the heck out of their products. They do see parts fail after lots of cycles, and what they recommend is going to be conservative. When Nitto says 5 years, I think 20. I do not think 50 years. You don't know when your bars are going to fail unless you know REALLY accurately what the loading history of your bars is. In other words, you have no idea. Anybody who decides to buy and ride used equipment assumes some additional risk because you just don't know for sure what the history is. If you think you would feel a lot more comfortable replacing your handlebars, then I'd say do it. On Monday, March 18, 2013 12:50:43 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: In a cool interview with Nitto exec Mr. Yoshikawa, Grant asks this question. Nitto exec leaves it up to consumer. So I was wondering if anything to be concerned about. Anyone know anything about aluminum bar life? Do I need to throw away the old used set of bars I have? Don't want any accidents. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: RivReader asks if aluminum bars should be replaced after 5 years?
The number of years is irrelevant. Some skinny person who rides upright and gingerly on smooth roads 5 miles per week is going to get 500 years out of the bar. On Monday, March 18, 2013 4:10:09 PM UTC-5, William wrote: You pose two questions: 1. Anyone know anything about aluminum bar life? I know a little bit about fatigue life of materials. Any metal that is cyclicly loaded will fatigue and fail eventually. Just about every metal has a similar look to it on an S-N curve (Wikipedia that for an explanation). The take home is that almost everything eventually wears out and fails. It's just a matter of when. Steel is a notable exception. If steel is cyclicly loaded at a low enough Stress, then it essentially never fatigues. Incredible stuff. Anyway, Aluminum does fatigue and fail...eventually. When? It depends on how much you are stressing it and how many cycles you put on it daily. 2. Do I need to throw away the old used set of bars I have? Nitto is going to say what they say because they generate these S-N curves and test the heck out of their products. They do see parts fail after lots of cycles, and what they recommend is going to be conservative. When Nitto says 5 years, I think 20. I do not think 50 years. You don't know when your bars are going to fail unless you know REALLY accurately what the loading history of your bars is. In other words, you have no idea. Anybody who decides to buy and ride used equipment assumes some additional risk because you just don't know for sure what the history is. If you think you would feel a lot more comfortable replacing your handlebars, then I'd say do it. On Monday, March 18, 2013 12:50:43 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: In a cool interview with Nitto exec Mr. Yoshikawa, Grant asks this question. Nitto exec leaves it up to consumer. So I was wondering if anything to be concerned about. Anyone know anything about aluminum bar life? Do I need to throw away the old used set of bars I have? Don't want any accidents. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: In Praise of The Rambo
You're right, my blue Ramby is clearly slower than the orange ones. Of course, the motor has *nothing* to do with this. ;-) On Monday, March 18, 2013 11:16:16 AM UTC-7, William wrote: Not only that, but every bike that has ever been always rides better and rides faster when it is Orange. FACT On Monday, March 18, 2013 11:09:06 AM UTC-7, Evan wrote: The orange Rambouillet is the best-looking bike ever. Fact. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Glorius and Wilbury
I got a price quote from Dave at Riv. Built by Mark Nobilette, $3000 for a DD paint job and Glorius/Wilbury decals and headbadge; $3500 for Joe Bell paint and Rivendell decals. On Monday, March 18, 2013 9:54:39 AM UTC-7, William wrote: The original tentacular stays, right? Stay tentacular would be a good button. On Sunday, March 17, 2013 8:09:31 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: This has already been posted in Legolas!, but I thought it was worth its own thread. The Glorius and Wilbury with their super-fancy lugs are still available as customs. I want one! *http://www.flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/320216954/*http://www.flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/320216954/ Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: RivReader asks if aluminum bars should be replaced after 5 years?
Jim I think that's what I said. The cycle life is determined by how it's loaded, and is captured on an S-N curve. You are correct that a tiny load is at the ultra-long life end of the S-N curve. If the S-N curve tells us that the cycle life is 50million cycles, and if you do 100,000 cycles per year, then Bob's your uncle, it's 500 years of life. For all us (relatively) normal people, we have no clue what cycle we are on. So we are left with judgement. Like I weigh 170, and I don't reef on my bars too hard, so I think I'll worry after 20 years or when I notice my bars sagging, whichever comes first. Someone else may decide I weigh 110, and it's a path bike. I'll never replace bars out of fear. Finally, another person might say I weigh 240 and sprint to every single city limit sign, and climb out of the saddle on my fixie on every hill. 5 years sounds like a good plan The thing that shocks me is how often I see people using bars that are visibly sagging. The tops of the handlebars drooping downward, and the hooks no longer parallel. That's scary. On Monday, March 18, 2013 2:21:42 PM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: The number of years is irrelevant. Some skinny person who rides upright and gingerly on smooth roads 5 miles per week is going to get 500 years out of the bar. On Monday, March 18, 2013 4:10:09 PM UTC-5, William wrote: You pose two questions: 1. Anyone know anything about aluminum bar life? I know a little bit about fatigue life of materials. Any metal that is cyclicly loaded will fatigue and fail eventually. Just about every metal has a similar look to it on an S-N curve (Wikipedia that for an explanation). The take home is that almost everything eventually wears out and fails. It's just a matter of when. Steel is a notable exception. If steel is cyclicly loaded at a low enough Stress, then it essentially never fatigues. Incredible stuff. Anyway, Aluminum does fatigue and fail...eventually. When? It depends on how much you are stressing it and how many cycles you put on it daily. 2. Do I need to throw away the old used set of bars I have? Nitto is going to say what they say because they generate these S-N curves and test the heck out of their products. They do see parts fail after lots of cycles, and what they recommend is going to be conservative. When Nitto says 5 years, I think 20. I do not think 50 years. You don't know when your bars are going to fail unless you know REALLY accurately what the loading history of your bars is. In other words, you have no idea. Anybody who decides to buy and ride used equipment assumes some additional risk because you just don't know for sure what the history is. If you think you would feel a lot more comfortable replacing your handlebars, then I'd say do it. On Monday, March 18, 2013 12:50:43 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: In a cool interview with Nitto exec Mr. Yoshikawa, Grant asks this question. Nitto exec leaves it up to consumer. So I was wondering if anything to be concerned about. Anyone know anything about aluminum bar life? Do I need to throw away the old used set of bars I have? Don't want any accidents. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Optimal clearance for metal fenders...
Thanks for the feedback. I have no problem fitting 60mm Berthoud fenders on my Hunqapillar to use with 50mm Marathon Dureme or equivalent tires. In fact, I have so much clearance, that my question really intended to ask how much is needed to really minimize the risk of a rock, piece of gravel or stick to get stuck when riding off-road, and if having too much clearance between the tire and the metal fender just meant that larger and potentially larger rocks could get stuck. I've already fitted both fenders to what I decided was optimal for both looks and clearance, and will post photos when the build is complete, unless someone wants to see something faster than that. I'm taking my sweet time to both enjoy it to the max as well as to ensure I make no mistakes. I'm also debating whether to go with my original plan to have the 24/40/Guard Sugino crankset which is forcing me to go with a wider BB, going down to 24/38/Guard to increase the clearance between the 38 and the chainstay or just go back the the 24/36/46 triple I had, maybe even going 24/36/Guard as I never seem to use the 46...suggestions welcome! René On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Shoji Takahashi shoji.takaha...@gmail.com wrote: Lovelybike has info on a Surly Cross Check with Fat Franks and VO Zeppelins. (Lots of pics.) http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2011/06/surly-cross-check-review-colourful.html She mentions: On the downside, the clearances between the tires and fenders are so tight, that the set-up is not really practical for serious off-road cycling: stuff can get caught in there and cause problems. But for fire trails and gravel paths it is fine... I don't think I would do this with knobbies. Good luck-- looking forward to the pics of the build. Shoji On Monday, March 18, 2013 2:09:53 PM UTC-4, AaronY wrote: Bob, What size were the hammered fenders? The largest size I can find on the VO site is a 47 which could be the reason that a 47 tire would have difficulty fitting with sufficient clearance. If you really want metal fenders they have the Zeppelin style in 52, but that might even be a tight fit for Rene's 50 mm Duremes. Here's a link to their fender page. I http://store.velo-orange.com/**index.php/accessories/fenders.**html?p=1http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/fenders.html?p=1 In the past my metal fenders have all been from VO and I've been happy with them. Aaron Young Vancouver, WA On Sunday, March 17, 2013, Robert Barr wrote: Rene, I struggled with the fenders on my Hunqapillar. My thoughtful wife bought me some hammered VOs as a gift because I had mentioned that I thought they would look great on the Hunq. And they would have - but with 47-622 Marathons there wasn't a mm to spare. My normal commute takes me down a gravel trail with stones and sticks. I fret the sticks more than the stones. After several attempts to fit the VOs (two sizes and lots of thinking..). I had to go back to my tried and true SKS. They worked best for me and where I ride. Good luck... Bob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: In Praise of The Rambo
I have a 62 All purpose orange (Ebisu calls it Moltini Orange; I call it Creamsicle) which I am about to put on the market. Just in case you are lusting for a great riding orange bike. * * I tried to talk GP into selling me an orange AHH with cantis and a few different braze ons, but it became acustom and outa my price range. On Monday, March 18, 2013 5:32:18 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: You're right, my blue Ramby is clearly slower than the orange ones. Of course, the motor has *nothing* to do with this. ;-) On Monday, March 18, 2013 11:16:16 AM UTC-7, William wrote: Not only that, but every bike that has ever been always rides better and rides faster when it is Orange. FACT On Monday, March 18, 2013 11:09:06 AM UTC-7, Evan wrote: The orange Rambouillet is the best-looking bike ever. Fact. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Saluki Brake / Rack Mating Question
Thanks for all the help; it both clarified the issues and lifted me out of a stuck place. I had thought about the spacer solution, but living out in the boonies I thought tracking down an M5x35 allen head bolt and a 20 mm spacer seemed unlikely. As luck would have it, I had to go into town ( 45 miles round trip) today and much to my surprise Sticks and Stuff actually had the parts I needed! Jetising the Paul's was never really an option, one because they are the easiest cantis to set up and live with ever and two because I owe them my life, literally. (Stopped alive in front of the dreaded right hook.) Anyway almost all my bikes have Paul's brakes - the Ram has Racer Ms and the tandem studed Racers. Only my old racing bike has Chorus, and my wife's has Superbe. Anyway things are back together, but I am still wondering if I wouldn't be better off swapping the rack with the Nitto Mini ( I misspoke when I wrote M12) which is now on the Ebisu I am preparing for sale. One bolts to the fork and one to the brake. Michael On Monday, March 18, 2013 2:06:56 PM UTC-4, William wrote: It would be cool if you could get the canti-post struts separately so you could run a Mark's Rack with the canti-post mounting, but still had adjustable struts so you could accommodate high-stack brakes, like the Pauls. Unfortunately, it looks like you can only buy those struts in 70mm an 120mm lengths, which is not going to be long enough. That would have been a slick setup. http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=7978 On Sunday, March 17, 2013 8:25:33 PM UTC-7, William wrote: I would advise ditching the Paul brakes. The Tektros are fine and will play nice with the rack. If you have mid fork braze ons so that a Nitto Mini Front would fit, then that could present an option, but an M12 won't be any better on Paul brakes than that VO is. Paul has way too much stack up. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS/T: Nitto Bullmoose Bar, 200mm, Unpainted
For sale is one pair of lightly used (maybe 500 miles) Nitto Bullmoose Bars from the original batch, in the longer 200mm extension, lovingly brazed by some little old lady in the Nitto factory. This pair is unpainted, so you can admire the beautiful brazing work for yourself. They were on my original Quickbeam build: http://handlebarchronicles.blogspot.com/2012/09/bikes-rivendell-quickbeam.html In an effort to protect them from rust but maintain the bare metal look, I sprayed them with some cheap hardware store clearcoat before riding them, but that proved largely ineffective against the moist Bay Area air, and they developed some rust over the couple of months I used them. I then switched to a similar but narrower flat bar on a conventional quill stem, mostly for fit reasons. To prepare them for selling, I took them out today and cleaned them up with a brillo pad, removing the clear coat and rust. Pictures in the current condition are here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/85709120@N07/sets/72157633031173450/ A great bar for your color-matched Hunq or Bomba build! Asking $100, with local pickup in the SF Bay Area (Berkeley) preferred. Additionally, I would trade for a pair of Bosco Bullmoose handlebars. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: RivReader asks if aluminum bars should be replaced after 5 years?
So aluminum bars sag before breaking? I only ask, because I'm a 250 lb guy using 25 year old WTB offroad drops on a fixed gear bike... offroad sometimes. http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/8547042814/ Philip www.biketinker.com On Monday, March 18, 2013 2:49:21 PM UTC-7, William wrote: Jim I think that's what I said. The cycle life is determined by how it's loaded, and is captured on an S-N curve. You are correct that a tiny load is at the ultra-long life end of the S-N curve. If the S-N curve tells us that the cycle life is 50million cycles, and if you do 100,000 cycles per year, then Bob's your uncle, it's 500 years of life. For all us (relatively) normal people, we have no clue what cycle we are on. So we are left with judgement. Like I weigh 170, and I don't reef on my bars too hard, so I think I'll worry after 20 years or when I notice my bars sagging, whichever comes first. Someone else may decide I weigh 110, and it's a path bike. I'll never replace bars out of fear. Finally, another person might say I weigh 240 and sprint to every single city limit sign, and climb out of the saddle on my fixie on every hill. 5 years sounds like a good plan The thing that shocks me is how often I see people using bars that are visibly sagging. The tops of the handlebars drooping downward, and the hooks no longer parallel. That's scary. On Monday, March 18, 2013 2:21:42 PM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: The number of years is irrelevant. Some skinny person who rides upright and gingerly on smooth roads 5 miles per week is going to get 500 years out of the bar. On Monday, March 18, 2013 4:10:09 PM UTC-5, William wrote: You pose two questions: 1. Anyone know anything about aluminum bar life? I know a little bit about fatigue life of materials. Any metal that is cyclicly loaded will fatigue and fail eventually. Just about every metal has a similar look to it on an S-N curve (Wikipedia that for an explanation). The take home is that almost everything eventually wears out and fails. It's just a matter of when. Steel is a notable exception. If steel is cyclicly loaded at a low enough Stress, then it essentially never fatigues. Incredible stuff. Anyway, Aluminum does fatigue and fail...eventually. When? It depends on how much you are stressing it and how many cycles you put on it daily. 2. Do I need to throw away the old used set of bars I have? Nitto is going to say what they say because they generate these S-N curves and test the heck out of their products. They do see parts fail after lots of cycles, and what they recommend is going to be conservative. When Nitto says 5 years, I think 20. I do not think 50 years. You don't know when your bars are going to fail unless you know REALLY accurately what the loading history of your bars is. In other words, you have no idea. Anybody who decides to buy and ride used equipment assumes some additional risk because you just don't know for sure what the history is. If you think you would feel a lot more comfortable replacing your handlebars, then I'd say do it. On Monday, March 18, 2013 12:50:43 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: In a cool interview with Nitto exec Mr. Yoshikawa, Grant asks this question. Nitto exec leaves it up to consumer. So I was wondering if anything to be concerned about. Anyone know anything about aluminum bar life? Do I need to throw away the old used set of bars I have? Don't want any accidents. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: RivReader asks if aluminum bars should be replaced after 5 years?
Oh man, those bars are hella warped, look at how flared they are! Must be a deathtrap. You should send them to me immediately for proper disposal. On Monday, March 18, 2013 4:15:07 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote: So aluminum bars sag before breaking? I only ask, because I'm a 250 lb guy using 25 year old WTB offroad drops on a fixed gear bike... offroad sometimes. http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/8547042814/ Philip www.biketinker.com On Monday, March 18, 2013 2:49:21 PM UTC-7, William wrote: Jim I think that's what I said. The cycle life is determined by how it's loaded, and is captured on an S-N curve. You are correct that a tiny load is at the ultra-long life end of the S-N curve. If the S-N curve tells us that the cycle life is 50million cycles, and if you do 100,000 cycles per year, then Bob's your uncle, it's 500 years of life. For all us (relatively) normal people, we have no clue what cycle we are on. So we are left with judgement. Like I weigh 170, and I don't reef on my bars too hard, so I think I'll worry after 20 years or when I notice my bars sagging, whichever comes first. Someone else may decide I weigh 110, and it's a path bike. I'll never replace bars out of fear. Finally, another person might say I weigh 240 and sprint to every single city limit sign, and climb out of the saddle on my fixie on every hill. 5 years sounds like a good plan The thing that shocks me is how often I see people using bars that are visibly sagging. The tops of the handlebars drooping downward, and the hooks no longer parallel. That's scary. On Monday, March 18, 2013 2:21:42 PM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: The number of years is irrelevant. Some skinny person who rides upright and gingerly on smooth roads 5 miles per week is going to get 500 years out of the bar. On Monday, March 18, 2013 4:10:09 PM UTC-5, William wrote: You pose two questions: 1. Anyone know anything about aluminum bar life? I know a little bit about fatigue life of materials. Any metal that is cyclicly loaded will fatigue and fail eventually. Just about every metal has a similar look to it on an S-N curve (Wikipedia that for an explanation). The take home is that almost everything eventually wears out and fails. It's just a matter of when. Steel is a notable exception. If steel is cyclicly loaded at a low enough Stress, then it essentially never fatigues. Incredible stuff. Anyway, Aluminum does fatigue and fail...eventually. When? It depends on how much you are stressing it and how many cycles you put on it daily. 2. Do I need to throw away the old used set of bars I have? Nitto is going to say what they say because they generate these S-N curves and test the heck out of their products. They do see parts fail after lots of cycles, and what they recommend is going to be conservative. When Nitto says 5 years, I think 20. I do not think 50 years. You don't know when your bars are going to fail unless you know REALLY accurately what the loading history of your bars is. In other words, you have no idea. Anybody who decides to buy and ride used equipment assumes some additional risk because you just don't know for sure what the history is. If you think you would feel a lot more comfortable replacing your handlebars, then I'd say do it. On Monday, March 18, 2013 12:50:43 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: In a cool interview with Nitto exec Mr. Yoshikawa, Grant asks this question. Nitto exec leaves it up to consumer. So I was wondering if anything to be concerned about. Anyone know anything about aluminum bar life? Do I need to throw away the old used set of bars I have? Don't want any accidents. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: RivReader asks if aluminum bars should be replaced after 5 years?
I don't know if they sag before breaking, but I do know aluminum has a cycle life. It merely scares me to see folks riding bars that are badly and symmetrically bent, clearly from tons and tons of use. Your offroad fixie is gorgeous, and I trust your judgement. The tinker can smell fatigue, and that's a fact. On Monday, March 18, 2013 4:15:07 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote: So aluminum bars sag before breaking? I only ask, because I'm a 250 lb guy using 25 year old WTB offroad drops on a fixed gear bike... offroad sometimes. http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/8547042814/ Philip www.biketinker.com On Monday, March 18, 2013 2:49:21 PM UTC-7, William wrote: Jim I think that's what I said. The cycle life is determined by how it's loaded, and is captured on an S-N curve. You are correct that a tiny load is at the ultra-long life end of the S-N curve. If the S-N curve tells us that the cycle life is 50million cycles, and if you do 100,000 cycles per year, then Bob's your uncle, it's 500 years of life. For all us (relatively) normal people, we have no clue what cycle we are on. So we are left with judgement. Like I weigh 170, and I don't reef on my bars too hard, so I think I'll worry after 20 years or when I notice my bars sagging, whichever comes first. Someone else may decide I weigh 110, and it's a path bike. I'll never replace bars out of fear. Finally, another person might say I weigh 240 and sprint to every single city limit sign, and climb out of the saddle on my fixie on every hill. 5 years sounds like a good plan The thing that shocks me is how often I see people using bars that are visibly sagging. The tops of the handlebars drooping downward, and the hooks no longer parallel. That's scary. On Monday, March 18, 2013 2:21:42 PM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: The number of years is irrelevant. Some skinny person who rides upright and gingerly on smooth roads 5 miles per week is going to get 500 years out of the bar. On Monday, March 18, 2013 4:10:09 PM UTC-5, William wrote: You pose two questions: 1. Anyone know anything about aluminum bar life? I know a little bit about fatigue life of materials. Any metal that is cyclicly loaded will fatigue and fail eventually. Just about every metal has a similar look to it on an S-N curve (Wikipedia that for an explanation). The take home is that almost everything eventually wears out and fails. It's just a matter of when. Steel is a notable exception. If steel is cyclicly loaded at a low enough Stress, then it essentially never fatigues. Incredible stuff. Anyway, Aluminum does fatigue and fail...eventually. When? It depends on how much you are stressing it and how many cycles you put on it daily. 2. Do I need to throw away the old used set of bars I have? Nitto is going to say what they say because they generate these S-N curves and test the heck out of their products. They do see parts fail after lots of cycles, and what they recommend is going to be conservative. When Nitto says 5 years, I think 20. I do not think 50 years. You don't know when your bars are going to fail unless you know REALLY accurately what the loading history of your bars is. In other words, you have no idea. Anybody who decides to buy and ride used equipment assumes some additional risk because you just don't know for sure what the history is. If you think you would feel a lot more comfortable replacing your handlebars, then I'd say do it. On Monday, March 18, 2013 12:50:43 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: In a cool interview with Nitto exec Mr. Yoshikawa, Grant asks this question. Nitto exec leaves it up to consumer. So I was wondering if anything to be concerned about. Anyone know anything about aluminum bar life? Do I need to throw away the old used set of bars I have? Don't want any accidents. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Saluki Brake / Rack Mating Question
Oh, yes! If your 'luki has the mid-fork braze-ons and you have a Nitto Mini rack already, absolutely go that route. On Monday, March 18, 2013 3:24:50 PM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote: Thanks for all the help; it both clarified the issues and lifted me out of a stuck place. I had thought about the spacer solution, but living out in the boonies I thought tracking down an M5x35 allen head bolt and a 20 mm spacer seemed unlikely. As luck would have it, I had to go into town ( 45 miles round trip) today and much to my surprise Sticks and Stuff actually had the parts I needed! Jetising the Paul's was never really an option, one because they are the easiest cantis to set up and live with ever and two because I owe them my life, literally. (Stopped alive in front of the dreaded right hook.) Anyway almost all my bikes have Paul's brakes - the Ram has Racer Ms and the tandem studed Racers. Only my old racing bike has Chorus, and my wife's has Superbe. Anyway things are back together, but I am still wondering if I wouldn't be better off swapping the rack with the Nitto Mini ( I misspoke when I wrote M12) which is now on the Ebisu I am preparing for sale. One bolts to the fork and one to the brake. Michael On Monday, March 18, 2013 2:06:56 PM UTC-4, William wrote: It would be cool if you could get the canti-post struts separately so you could run a Mark's Rack with the canti-post mounting, but still had adjustable struts so you could accommodate high-stack brakes, like the Pauls. Unfortunately, it looks like you can only buy those struts in 70mm an 120mm lengths, which is not going to be long enough. That would have been a slick setup. http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=7978 On Sunday, March 17, 2013 8:25:33 PM UTC-7, William wrote: I would advise ditching the Paul brakes. The Tektros are fine and will play nice with the rack. If you have mid fork braze ons so that a Nitto Mini Front would fit, then that could present an option, but an M12 won't be any better on Paul brakes than that VO is. Paul has way too much stack up. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: In Praise of The Rambo
It happened to me about a month ago, too. I took my son out to ride on some trails (the East/West Ridge Trail in Oakland), and I rode my wife's orange Ramb with albatross bars because it has fat tires (I think Avocet Cross 35s?). My old MTB was not in ridable condition, and I felt like a change from my drop bar bikes. I had 2 people come up and compliment the bike. That rarely happens when I ride my other, albeit equally nice, bikes --- Bruce Gordons or old Ritchey sport tourer. That Riv mystique! On Monday, March 18, 2013 3:13:03 PM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote: I have a 62 All purpose orange (Ebisu calls it Moltini Orange; I call it Creamsicle) which I am about to put on the market. Just in case you are lusting for a great riding orange bike. * * I tried to talk GP into selling me an orange AHH with cantis and a few different braze ons, but it became acustom and outa my price range. On Monday, March 18, 2013 5:32:18 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: You're right, my blue Ramby is clearly slower than the orange ones. Of course, the motor has *nothing* to do with this. ;-) On Monday, March 18, 2013 11:16:16 AM UTC-7, William wrote: Not only that, but every bike that has ever been always rides better and rides faster when it is Orange. FACT On Monday, March 18, 2013 11:09:06 AM UTC-7, Evan wrote: The orange Rambouillet is the best-looking bike ever. Fact. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [RBW] Re: Bombadil v. 2.0 and new Fatty Rumpkins
Wet. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Deacon Patrick Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 3:26 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Bombadil v. 2.0 and new Fatty Rumpkins Guinness, for health! Though it looks like Guinness, you are outfitted to carry whisky. Impressive. What's your preference? With abandon, Patrick On Monday, March 18, 2013 10:43:12 AM UTC-6, Pudge wrote: I've been tinkering with a Rohloff build on my repainted Bombadil for a long time, trying to make an after-market eccentric bottom bracket work. It never came together satisfyingly, so I gave up and ordered a Rohloff chain tensioner. I built it up over the weekend - here it is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8567470700/in/photostream. And here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8567485276/in/photostream/ Those are the new Fatty Rumpkins, which ride really well - the toughness is not at much cost, in terms of ride quality. I'm really pleased with the build. In a 10 mile test ride yesterday, everything worked together seamlessly - except I haven't been able to shift into the lowest gear, meaning I have that unique 13 speed Rohloff. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email
[RBW] Re: Bombadil v. 2.0 and new Fatty Rumpkins
Wow. That is a *stunning* bicycle. For some reason I get a WWII military motorcycle vibe out of it. Very cool. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Monday, March 18, 2013 9:43:12 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote: I’ve been tinkering with a Rohloff build on my repainted Bombadil for a long time, trying to make an after-market eccentric bottom bracket work. It never came together satisfyingly, so I gave up and ordered a Rohloff chain tensioner. I built it up over the weekend – here it is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8567470700/in/photostream. And here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8567485276/in/photostream/ Those are the new Fatty Rumpkins, which ride really well – the toughness is not at much cost, in terms of ride quality. I’m really pleased with the build. In a 10 mile test ride yesterday, everything worked together seamlessly – except I haven’t been able to shift into the lowest gear, meaning I have that unique 13 speed Rohloff. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [RBW] Re: Bombadil v. 2.0 and new Fatty Rumpkins
Thanks to all for the generous comments. Now I gotta go get some miles on the thing! From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Bernard Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:47 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Bombadil v. 2.0 and new Fatty Rumpkins Wow. That is a stunning bicycle. For some reason I get a WWII military motorcycle vibe out of it. Very cool. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Monday, March 18, 2013 9:43:12 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote: I've been tinkering with a Rohloff build on my repainted Bombadil for a long time, trying to make an after-market eccentric bottom bracket work. It never came together satisfyingly, so I gave up and ordered a Rohloff chain tensioner. I built it up over the weekend - here it is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8567470700/in/photostream. And here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8567485276/in/photostream/ Those are the new Fatty Rumpkins, which ride really well - the toughness is not at much cost, in terms of ride quality. I'm really pleased with the build. In a 10 mile test ride yesterday, everything worked together seamlessly - except I haven't been able to shift into the lowest gear, meaning I have that unique 13 speed Rohloff. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe
[RBW] Re: Glorius and Wilbury
That would be awfully swank. Help keep RBW tentacular. On Monday, March 18, 2013 2:42:33 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: I got a price quote from Dave at Riv. Built by Mark Nobilette, $3000 for a DD paint job and Glorius/Wilbury decals and headbadge; $3500 for Joe Bell paint and Rivendell decals. On Monday, March 18, 2013 9:54:39 AM UTC-7, William wrote: The original tentacular stays, right? Stay tentacular would be a good button. On Sunday, March 17, 2013 8:09:31 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: This has already been posted in Legolas!, but I thought it was worth its own thread. The Glorius and Wilbury with their super-fancy lugs are still available as customs. I want one! *http://www.flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/320216954/*http://www.flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/320216954/ Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Optimal clearance for metal fenders...
Rene, Everyone might have different levels of comfort for fender clearance. On my one bike with 60mm Berthoud fenders and 50mm Marathon Dureme tires, I find it to be a fairly close fit. Mind you, this is a Surly LHT, not a Rivendell, so it's really apples and oranges. On another bike, have 52mm VO fenders and 40mm wide studded tires are probably too wide to be considered totally safe, although haven't had much in the way of trouble so far. My usual setup is to take a 10mm allen wrench and put it between the tire and the fender for setup. Probably could (should?) go closer, but have had a few rock issues over the years due to my preference for heavily treaded tires. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 5:01 PM, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the feedback. I have no problem fitting 60mm Berthoud fenders on my Hunqapillar to use with 50mm Marathon Dureme or equivalent tires. In fact, I have so much clearance, that my question really intended to ask how much is needed to really minimize the risk of a rock, piece of gravel or stick to get stuck when riding off-road, and if having too much clearance between the tire and the metal fender just meant that larger and potentially larger rocks could get stuck. I've already fitted both fenders to what I decided was optimal for both looks and clearance, and will post photos when the build is complete, unless someone wants to see something faster than that. I'm taking my sweet time to both enjoy it to the max as well as to ensure I make no mistakes. I'm also debating whether to go with my original plan to have the 24/40/Guard Sugino crankset which is forcing me to go with a wider BB, going down to 24/38/Guard to increase the clearance between the 38 and the chainstay or just go back the the 24/36/46 triple I had, maybe even going 24/36/Guard as I never seem to use the 46...suggestions welcome! René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: RivReader asks if aluminum bars should be replaced after 5 years?
Philip - very nice looking bike. Have had one set of bars fail years ago, but they were flat bars on a mountain bike. Will admit to thinking about this as I put a used set of 48cm Nitto Noodles on my SimpleOne this spring. Hopefully they will last another year or two. On my drop bar bikes, will probably change them after a few years. Might be a good reason to go for steel bars in the future. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 6:32 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if they sag before breaking, but I do know aluminum has a cycle life. It merely scares me to see folks riding bars that are badly and symmetrically bent, clearly from tons and tons of use. Your offroad fixie is gorgeous, and I trust your judgement. The tinker can smell fatigue, and that's a fact. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil v. 2.0 and new Fatty Rumpkins
Add me to the chorus - stunning. Have loved every one of the black Rivendell bikes I've seen. Great build-up with the Rolhoff. One of those is on my all time wish list. Not sure it will ever happen, though. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: Thanks to all for the generous comments. Now I gotta go get some miles on the thing! ** ** *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Joe Bernard *Sent:* Monday, March 18, 2013 7:47 PM *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Bombadil v. 2.0 and new Fatty Rumpkins ** ** Wow. That is a *stunning* bicycle. For some reason I get a WWII military motorcycle vibe out of it. Very cool. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Monday, March 18, 2013 9:43:12 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote: I’ve been tinkering with a Rohloff build on my repainted Bombadil for a long time, trying to make an after-market eccentric bottom bracket work. It never came together satisfyingly, so I gave up and ordered a Rohloff chain tensioner. I built it up over the weekend – here it is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8567470700/in/photostream. And here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8567485276/in/photostream/ Those are the new Fatty Rumpkins, which ride really well – the toughness is not at much cost, in terms of ride quality. I’m really pleased with the build. In a 10 mile test ride yesterday, everything worked together seamlessly – except I haven’t been able to shift into the lowest gear, meaning I have that unique 13 speed Rohloff. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == ** ** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout
Re: [RBW] Optimal clearance for metal fenders...
Aaron - You are correct about the VO sizes, I was trying to make the hammered finish VO 45s work. I really like the hammered look... don't care much for the smoothies or Zeppelins. My Marathons, like most I have had, run smaller than the listed size. My 47s, mounted and inflated barely make 41mm. So... with wishful thinking, I tried to make the 45mm VO fenders work. They were too tight. Jitensha offers a 43mm hammered finish Honjo, and Boulder noted that: A 50mm fender is great for those who use Grand Bois 30mm tires but want the option to run something wider such as a 32mm Panaracer Pasela... I believe Boulder's widest hammered finish was a 42, which I presume is the same as Jitensha's 43. I might have made the width work, but the Marathons are also tall. In the end the clearance was too tight. My experience seems different from Rene's in that I am more concerned about too tight, than too wide a fender line. That may be simply a function of our environments. I believe Rene is Bay area, while I am in Indiana. After every windy day - and we have a lot, my commute is a maze of small limbs and sticks of every type. My daily commuter for the last several years has been a thoroughly Riv'ed MB3. I have had countless small sticks rattle off my SKS fenders and spill out of the too loose fender line. A couple of bigger sticks have started to jamb, but I have managed to stop before the fender broke loose. On several occasions I think a tight metal fender might not have been good. But - it is all environment. If I could stick to an asphalt trail or the road I would try harder to make the hammered metal fender work - but that is not where I ride. Bob (Indianapolis) On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Aaron Young 1ce...@gmail.com wrote: Bob, What size were the hammered fenders? The largest size I can find on the VO site is a 47 which could be the reason that a 47 tire would have difficulty fitting with sufficient clearance. If you really want metal fenders they have the Zeppelin style in 52, but that might even be a tight fit for Rene's 50 mm Duremes. Here's a link to their fender page. I http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/fenders.html?p=1 In the past my metal fenders have all been from VO and I've been happy with them. Aaron Young Vancouver, WA On Sunday, March 17, 2013, Robert Barr wrote: Rene, I struggled with the fenders on my Hunqapillar. My thoughtful wife bought me some hammered VOs as a gift because I had mentioned that I thought they would look great on the Hunq. And they would have - but with 47-622 Marathons there wasn't a mm to spare. My normal commute takes me down a gravel trail with stones and sticks. I fret the sticks more than the stones. After several attempts to fit the VOs (two sizes and lots of thinking..). I had to go back to my tried and true SKS. They worked best for me and where I ride. Good luck... Bob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Bombadil v. 2.0 and new Fatty Rumpkins
On Monday, March 18, 2013 11:43:12 AM UTC-5, Pudge wrote: I’ve been tinkering with a Rohloff build on my repainted Bombadil for a long time, trying to make an after-market eccentric bottom bracket work. It never came together satisfyingly, so I gave up and ordered a Rohloff chain tensioner. I built it up over the weekend – here it is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8567470700/in/photostream. And here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8567485276/in/photostream/ Those are the new Fatty Rumpkins, which ride really well – the toughness is not at much cost, in terms of ride quality. I’m really pleased with the build. In a 10 mile test ride yesterday, everything worked together seamlessly – except I haven’t been able to shift into the lowest gear, meaning I have that unique 13 speed Rohloff. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Bombadil v. 2.0 and new Fatty Rumpkins
Sorry...speechless. That looks like a Swiss Army bike for sure. I like the black. You could travel the world on thatneat components If you don't mind me askinghow much does it weigh? For touring probably not much of an issue. It looks rugged. On Monday, March 18, 2013 11:43:12 AM UTC-5, Pudge wrote: I’ve been tinkering with a Rohloff build on my repainted Bombadil for a long time, trying to make an after-market eccentric bottom bracket work. It never came together satisfyingly, so I gave up and ordered a Rohloff chain tensioner. I built it up over the weekend – here it is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8567470700/in/photostream. And here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8567485276/in/photostream/ Those are the new Fatty Rumpkins, which ride really well – the toughness is not at much cost, in terms of ride quality. I’m really pleased with the build. In a 10 mile test ride yesterday, everything worked together seamlessly – except I haven’t been able to shift into the lowest gear, meaning I have that unique 13 speed Rohloff. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [RBW] Re: Bombadil v. 2.0 and new Fatty Rumpkins
I'm going to weigh it with full complement of bags - a Sackville Saddlesack Large in the front and a Medium in the front (in a large black Wald basket - it actually looks pretty good, and makes a good quickly removable bag (good for commuting, and taking clothes down to office shower)). I managed to find both bags in the very early run black canvas (because, you know... it's a BLACK bike). Guessing? It's pretty heavy - maybe 33 to 35 pounds? Rides like a champ, though - it doesn't feel heavy or sluggish at all. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 9:10 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Bombadil v. 2.0 and new Fatty Rumpkins Sorry...speechless. That looks like a Swiss Army bike for sure. I like the black. You could travel the world on thatneat components If you don't mind me askinghow much does it weigh? For touring probably not much of an issue. It looks rugged. On Monday, March 18, 2013 11:43:12 AM UTC-5, Pudge wrote: I've been tinkering with a Rohloff build on my repainted Bombadil for a long time, trying to make an after-market eccentric bottom bracket work. It never came together satisfyingly, so I gave up and ordered a Rohloff chain tensioner. I built it up over the weekend - here it is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8567470700/in/photostream. And here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8567485276/in/photostream/ Those are the new Fatty Rumpkins, which ride really well - the toughness is not at much cost, in terms of ride quality. I'm really pleased with the build. In a 10 mile test ride yesterday, everything worked together seamlessly - except I haven't been able to shift into the lowest gear, meaning I have that unique 13 speed Rohloff. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you
RE: [RBW] Re: Bombadil v. 2.0 and new Fatty Rumpkins
BTW - this build shows off how very versatile Riv frames are. Compare v. 1.0 with the current build - very different, both great rides. 1.0: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/4249456177/in/set-72157624552118742/ Current: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8566375015/in/photostream From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allingham II, Thomas J Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 9:15 PM To: 'rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com' Subject: RE: [RBW] Re: Bombadil v. 2.0 and new Fatty Rumpkins I'm going to weigh it with full complement of bags - a Sackville Saddlesack Large in the front and a Medium in the front (in a large black Wald basket - it actually looks pretty good, and makes a good quickly removable bag (good for commuting, and taking clothes down to office shower)). I managed to find both bags in the very early run black canvas (because, you know... it's a BLACK bike). Guessing? It's pretty heavy - maybe 33 to 35 pounds? Rides like a champ, though - it doesn't feel heavy or sluggish at all. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 9:10 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Bombadil v. 2.0 and new Fatty Rumpkins Sorry...speechless. That looks like a Swiss Army bike for sure. I like the black. You could travel the world on thatneat components If you don't mind me askinghow much does it weigh? For touring probably not much of an issue. It looks rugged. On Monday, March 18, 2013 11:43:12 AM UTC-5, Pudge wrote: I've been tinkering with a Rohloff build on my repainted Bombadil for a long time, trying to make an after-market eccentric bottom bracket work. It never came together satisfyingly, so I gave up and ordered a Rohloff chain tensioner. I built it up over the weekend - here it is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8567470700/in/photostream. And here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8567485276/in/photostream/ Those are the new Fatty Rumpkins, which ride really well - the toughness is not at much cost, in terms of ride quality. I'm really pleased with the build. In a 10 mile test ride yesterday, everything worked together seamlessly - except I haven't been able to shift into the lowest gear, meaning I have that unique 13 speed Rohloff. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii)
[RBW] WTB: White Industries VBC crankset
While I realize it's a longshot I'm wondering if anyone has a used White Industries VBC crankset that they would like to sell? I'm looking for 170mm with 44/30 rings. If I remember correctly someone on the list sold one recently. Thanks EJG (Jason) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [RBW] Re: Bombadil v. 2.0 and new Fatty Rumpkins
Black Bomba = just a riff on Kobe's self-appellation, Black Mamba... From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 4:39 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil v. 2.0 and new Fatty Rumpkins BEHOLD...BLACK BOMBA!! I can see this was well worth the effort... I especially love the black rims and silver spokes... Simply awesome!!! I hope you'll bring this on the Water Gap ride... ... along with the Mystery Bike, ... and your JP Weigle Raleigh... ... and your green Wilbury... Oh, nevermind... just bring the Bomba On Monday, March 18, 2013 4:10:28 PM UTC-4, Tom Harrop wrote: What a beast! Great stuff. I'm curious, what made you give up on the EBB? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Bombadil v. 2.0 and new Fatty Rumpkins
I'll take the excellent Rohloff chain tensioner over some cheesy eccentric BB any day. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS 68cm Quickbeam
One 68cm Quickbeam complete bike with extra set of wheels. Stock crank Shimano dyno hub and lights Sks fenders Jack browns Dirt drop and mustache bars Nitto seat post ... Front rack and Berthould bag Everything in the photos but the saddle The photos are high resolution that will tell the full story..the bike needs to be cleaned and dusted Why I'm selling Not sure and kinda asorta hope nobody takes me up on it ... Will buy more stuff basically, just repaired Bombadil and would like to reprint build AHH How much... 2100.00 With up to 100 dollars in freight and boxing.If you want to return after getting it..3 days after recieving to decide you pay freight both ways. That should cover it. Photos taken today http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/sets/72157633031703828/ Note: Price is non- negotiable unless you want to pay more. It will not got to eBay or haver ice dropped .. I'll get to keep. I can be reached at Kelly Sleeper 314-799-4743 tkslee...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Bombadil v. 2.0 and new Fatty Rumpkins
PS: this has inspired me. I have a red Rohloff burning a hole in my pocket... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: RivReader asks if aluminum bars should be replaced after 5 years?
Oh, man, now you've got me thinking. I took 20-year-old Modolo aluminum bars off my old Raleigh. I'd crashed them into a telephone pole, yet there's no *visible* damage to the bars. And so I put them on my new beater when I needed a wider bar a couple of months ago -- because I'm such a cheapskate. Guess I'd better go and yank on them a bit to see if I detect any issues... Joe K On Monday, March 18, 2013 8:27:46 PM UTC-4, EricP wrote: Philip - very nice looking bike. Have had one set of bars fail years ago, but they were flat bars on a mountain bike. Will admit to thinking about this as I put a used set of 48cm Nitto Noodles on my SimpleOne this spring. Hopefully they will last another year or two. On my drop bar bikes, will probably change them after a few years. Might be a good reason to go for steel bars in the future. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 6:32 PM, William tape...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: I don't know if they sag before breaking, but I do know aluminum has a cycle life. It merely scares me to see folks riding bars that are badly and symmetrically bent, clearly from tons and tons of use. Your offroad fixie is gorgeous, and I trust your judgement. The tinker can smell fatigue, and that's a fact. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Bombadil v. 2.0 and new Fatty Rumpkins
Must be a really big pocket Sent from my iPhone On Mar 18, 2013, at 11:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: PS: this has inspired me. I have a red Rohloff burning a hole in my pocket... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
