Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-08 Thread Philip Williamson
Bags, my friend. Never weigh them! Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

[RBW] Re: Crankset Question

2014-08-08 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
I recently saw this same question posed somewhere else and someone responded that it was their understanding that RBW's XD-2 was a crankset they actually put together themselves from individual parts. I have no idea if this is true but I did notice very early on that the XD-2 seems to be

Re: [RBW] Compass 650b 38 vs. 650b 42 mm tires question.

2014-08-08 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/08/2014 01:22 AM, lungimsam wrote: Loup Loup vs. Babyshoe Wonder what the ride quality diff is. They are so close in size. You'd be surprised: 38 42 really aren't so close in size at all. There's more difference in volume there than there is between 23 and 25mm, or between 25 and

[RBW] Re: Bike locks ?

2014-08-08 Thread John Stowe
I've been riding in the DC area since 2006 and on the Hillborne since 2012 - so far I've not had a bike stolen (said while knocking furiously on my wooden desk), though both of my bikes have had their frames replaced for other reasons. It certainly helps that I've been able to park indoors at

[RBW] Re: I ordered a Sam!

2014-08-08 Thread Serial Griller
I wanted to wait for the blue /cream combination that is due to arrive in September.I like the look of the detailed head tube.But I was told there wouldn't be any 58cm in that shipment..So I got the sage.If it was a big deal I could have it painted at a local bike paint shop before it's

[RBW] Re: Bike locks ?

2014-08-08 Thread Andrew Marchant-Shapiro
Because I generally ride what would be considered budget bikes on here, I've never really worried all that much. I had a front wheel stolen off my Raleigh GP 30 years ago (Chicago, and I failed to lock up the front wheel), and a pair of Schwinns stolen out of a garage in upstate NY five years

[RBW] Re: Compass 650b 38 vs. 650b 42 mm tires question.

2014-08-08 Thread Anton Tutter
I can't speak to a direct comparison since I've not tried the Loup Loup's, but my Babyshoe Passes (extralight version) are supremely fast and supple tires, and clearly superior in both regards to the Hetres they replace. I'm 165 lb, and ride a lot on dirt and gravel, so I tend to keep the

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-08 Thread Tony DeFilippo
I was pretty surprised about the commuting load weight to! But that does include a full set of work clothes, tools, rain jacket, u luck, cable and of course two canvas bags. Good thing I took out the laptop that I only occasionally have onboard of the number would have been really shocking!

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-08 Thread Tony DeFilippo
I was pretty surprised about the commuting load weight to! But that does include a full set of work clothes, tools, rain jacket, u luck, cable and of course two canvas bags. Good thing I took out the laptop that I only occasionally have onboard of the number would have been really shocking!

[RBW] Re: Soma Grand Randonneur or Hetres or Compass Babyshoe Pass

2014-08-08 Thread Anton Tutter
Ryan, I've only experenced standard Hetres, extralight Hetres, and the extralight Babyshoe Passes. I noticed a slight improvement going from standard Hetres to the extralights, but then a more significant improvement from the Hetre extralights to the Babyshoe Pass extralights. With the

[RBW] Re: Fire Sale!!! Lots of stuff ....brakes, crank, derailleur, tape, stem, ect!!!

2014-08-08 Thread Brian Campbell
Eric, If still availableI would like: Nitto Stem Nitto Rack Struts Nitto Bar end plgs Tange Bottom bracket Bar Tape. My shipping zip code is 19312 On Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:16:50 PM UTC-4, Eric wrote: *Here’s a big bundle of stuff for sale! For the first 8 items prices include

[RBW] Re: Crankset Question

2014-08-08 Thread Garth
It's different because that picture is mistakingly for the 152mm version, which uses 50/36/24 rings. Also, If you look at the end of the arm around the pedal area, it's slightly different(not as rounded) than the 160mm+ versions. The 152mm version uses a slightly different mold. I have 175's

[RBW] Re: Crankset Question

2014-08-08 Thread Garth
Yep, you guys got it as far as I can tell . Yes it's the same crank arms with OEM rings . The arms themselves are called XD(or XD2), when sold as complete unit of Al rings in 46/36/26, then the 600 is added to the name, and called the 300 if the middle ring is steel. It's called the 500

[RBW] Re: Compass 650b 38 vs. 650b 42 mm tires question.

2014-08-08 Thread Jan Heine
I'd recommend the Babyshoe Pass 650B x 42 mm if you have room. If 42 mm tires are a squeeze, take the 38 mm Loup Loup Pass. There are many bikes (early 650B Rivs, Kogswell P/R, etc.) that cannot accept the full 42 mm Demi-Ballon with adequate clearances, especially if you use fenders. For

[RBW] Re: Chain Length - Cheviot

2014-08-08 Thread EGNolan
I bought a tandem chain for my Yuba Mundo, but I had a Trek 850 w/ super long chainstays I just added a few links connected with an extra master link. Never had a problem. Good luck! Best, Eric Indpls On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 12:40:27 PM UTC-4, Derek Lawrence wrote: I just built

[RBW] Re: I ordered a Sam!

2014-08-08 Thread Deacon Patrick
A sage decision! Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, August 8, 2014 6:33:31 AM UTC-6, Serial Griller wrote: I wanted to wait for the blue /cream combination that is due to arrive in September.I like the look of the detailed head tube.But I was told there wouldn't be any 58cm in that

[RBW] Re: Fire Sale!!! Lots of stuff ....brakes, crank, derailleur, tape, stem, ect!!!

2014-08-08 Thread Eric
Sold item: Basket net Brass bell Bar Tape Sheldon's fender nuts *** Also please read the payment instructions. I need to be able to print a shipping label from PayPal, please do not gift the money. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch

[RBW] Re: Bike locks ?

2014-08-08 Thread jeffrey kane
I'm in my 4th year on a Belriot here in NYC. I commute nearly year round (ice will stop me but usually not the cold). The key is that the bike comes inside at night and all day while I'm at work ... and that most outside lock-up times are short (one to three hours on average). Still it's a

[RBW] Re: Crankset Question

2014-08-08 Thread Montclair BobbyB
I have bought XD2 cranks (with crown logo) from sellers other than Riv, and you can find them sold elsewhere. I don't believe Riv has an exclusive on them. On Friday, August 8, 2014 9:42:32 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote: Yep, you guys got it as far as I can tell . Yes it's the same crank arms

[RBW] Re: Compass 650b 38 vs. 650b 42 mm tires question.

2014-08-08 Thread 'Jay B' via RBW Owners Bunch
Plenty of 650b Rivs can take 42mm tires with fenders. My Bleriot, for example, swallows Hetres, SKS longboard fenders, and Paul Racer brakes with room to spare. I've even mounted some of the Schwalbe fatties RBW used to sell under some fenders on that bike. -Jay On Friday, August 8, 2014

[RBW] Re: Compass 650b 38 vs. 650b 42 mm tires question.

2014-08-08 Thread franklyn
Jan's point is well taken, but the Gen2 Kogswell actually take Hetres and VO Zepplin (52mm) OK. I recently did some bike camping on the San Juan Islands and rode on some mixed terrain, and the Kogswell with the mentioned set-up work perfectly. I have both 42mm Hetres (40.5mm on synergy rims)

[RBW] Re: Compass 650b 38 vs. 650b 42 mm tires question.

2014-08-08 Thread franklyn
Here is a picture of my P/R with the said setup on Lopez Island: https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/14667199819/ Franklyn On Friday, August 8, 2014 8:08:04 AM UTC-7, franklyn wrote: Jan's point is well taken, but the Gen2 Kogswell actually take Hetres and VO Zepplin (52mm) OK. I

[RBW] Re: Fire Sale!!! Lots of stuff ....brakes, crank, derailleur, tape, stem, ect!!!

2014-08-08 Thread Eric
Additional sold item: - Stem - Struts - Bar end plugs - Bottom bracket *** Also, if you have any problems covering fees there's a nice site to help you calculate: http://thefeecalculator.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group.

[RBW] Re: Bike locks ?

2014-08-08 Thread shawn m.
Another datapoint. I lock my Hunqapillar up everywhere I go in Seattle. I try to lock in up in high visibility areas, but I don't stress if it's out of my line of sight. I'm (probably excessively) careful about what exactly I'm locking up to, particularly where the Cora Rack is concerned. I use

[RBW] Re: I ordered a Sam!

2014-08-08 Thread Ryan
I think both colours are really nice, and I think you'll be very happy with the SH. Enjoy and keep us posted. If my X0-1 ever went missing I'd consider an SH Ryan in Winnipeg On Friday, August 8, 2014 7:33:31 AM UTC-5, Serial Griller wrote: I wanted to wait for the blue /cream combination

[RBW] Re: Fire Sale!!! Lots of stuff ....brakes, crank, derailleur, tape, stem, ect!!!

2014-08-08 Thread Eric
More sold items: - Nitto seat post - Shimano brake levers Everything else is still available!!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Bike locks ?

2014-08-08 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Thanks for the link on those bolts. Do they include the security hex key w/ purchase? Also slingshots! http://hellaslingshots.com/collections/slingshots Love the Mary Poppins Bike! On Friday, August 8, 2014 7:33:59 AM UTC-7, jeffrey kane wrote: I'm in my 4th year on a Belriot here in NYC. I

Re: [RBW] Re: One week without a front derailleur

2014-08-08 Thread Antonioni Vicente
Destroyed my front d on a ride just days before my solo PDX-Lost Coast-SF tour. Kept it in the middle until i hit the climb out of Ferndale, placing it- by hand-back to the middle guy after getting onto Hwy 1. No big deal. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 3:14:19 PM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote: Of

Re: [RBW] Re: One week without a front derailleur

2014-08-08 Thread Peter Adler
There's a MeetYourMaker ride starting/ending at White Industries this coming Saturday at 10AM, with a tour of the plant somewhere in there. If you can gear it up tomorrow and get there in time, there's tacos and beer when you're done. http://meetyourmakertour.com/rides/aug-9-2014/ Peter Adler

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB 55cm Glorius, Wilber or Cheviot

2014-08-08 Thread Kendall Faeth
A Betty Foy. My wife wants a custom color, so I really wanted something pre owned. FAETH GRUPPE // /// Kendall Faeth 213.327.9093 // www.kendallfaeth.com On Aug 7, 2014, at 1:31 PM, Abcyclehank hankinso...@me.com wrote: Sorry to be noisy but

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-08 Thread AD
I have a 20.5 lbs SimpleOne with magnesium bottom bracket, Brooks titanium, Paul levers and cantis, JB greens, Phil 36h (can probably drop some weight with 32 WI), cut Nitto seatpost. Minimizing the weight was just for kicks as the bike is regulated to family rides on the Iron Horse trail.

[RBW] Re: Chain Length - Cheviot

2014-08-08 Thread Kurt Manley
That's how my bike came from Riv, a section of chain added in with another master link. Works great! When the chain is that long take extra care to size it as short as possible, that helped tremendously with a chain suck problem I was having. I personally use the Sheldon chain sizing, run the

[RBW] Re: Bike locks ?

2014-08-08 Thread jeffrey kane
Yep, he includes a hex key in every package (so does VO when they sell the skewers) --- of course, you can source these bolts on the internet from anywhere but the guy does a nice job of organizing it with diagrams and what I think are good prices. I found the link is a post here somewhere ...

[RBW] Looking for a 61 cm Atlantis

2014-08-08 Thread Comption001
I'm looking for a 61 cm Atlantis if anyone has one they want to depart with. After doing a lot of research on touring bikes, I have been very impressed with the feedback on the Atlantis as well as it's versatility. Since I have never ridden one, I would like to find someone close to Charlotte

[RBW] Re: Bike locks ?

2014-08-08 Thread Serial Griller
Thanks for all the links to your cool lock systems. A few months ago in the news there was a rash of high end bike thefts either in Denver or at the CU campus. The police planted a few high end bikes with hidden GPS tracking devices and put them at bike racks locked with flimsy bike cables or

Re: [RBW] Re: One week without a front derailleur

2014-08-08 Thread Philip Williamson
Perfect time to show White the 5t dingle concept... Philip www.biketinker.com On Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:48:45 PM UTC-7, Peter Adler wrote: There's a MeetYourMaker ride starting/ending at White Industries this coming Saturday at 10AM, with a tour of the plant somewhere in there. If you

[RBW] Flickr Fun

2014-08-08 Thread Eric Norris
Playing around with a new iPhone photo editing app: https://flic.kr/p/omLPuo --Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com campyonlyguy.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and

Re: [RBW] Re: One week without a front derailleur

2014-08-08 Thread Bill Lindsay
One detail I had missed: White Industries absolutely does make an adapter ring that allows you to run a SRAM XX1chainring on your VBC (or ENO) arms. So, if you want to build up a 1xwhatever, and want to use White crankarms and want wide-narrow chainring technology, then you absolutely can do

[RBW] Re: fs: Rivendell Atlantis ~ 56cm - frame/fork/Chris King headset/bottom bracket

2014-08-08 Thread Eric
Bump with price drop! $1400 shipped in CONUS. PayPal must be made via purchase with fees covered and I need to ship to your confirmed shipping address on PayPal. http://s7.postimg.org/xp8yt4l6z/at1.jpg

Re: [RBW] Re: One week without a front derailleur

2014-08-08 Thread Mark Reimer
What!? Really? Never heard or have seen one of those. Can you elaborate? On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: One detail I had missed: White Industries absolutely does make an adapter ring that allows you to run a SRAM XX1chainring on your VBC (or ENO)

[RBW] Re: Compass 650b 38 vs. 650b 42 mm tires question.

2014-08-08 Thread lungimsam
In what ways would the 42 be superior to the 38? That is what I really need to know. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: One week without a front derailleur

2014-08-08 Thread Mark Reimer
Ah I see, must be referring to this device? http://www.singlespeed.nl/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=31products_id=1505osCsid=db29d7f9d6b8c788f8b18fcc8765ad3e That is very cool. Though it would be a bummer to have WI cranks without their cool rings to match. On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at

[RBW] Re: Bike locks ?

2014-08-08 Thread Kevin M
Another tip, for you renters out there with nice bikes, is to make sure you have renter's insurance. It's cheap. Most policies will cover the replacement cost of stolen property, even if it is stolen away from you home. It's really the only way you're ever going to get you bike back, if the

[RBW] Re: I ordered a Sam!

2014-08-08 Thread RJM
Congrats on the bike...the Sam is a really good all arounder that does well touring, trail riding, and road riding. It was my first Rivendell and I still love it, even after getting the Roadeo. I tell you though, I'm kinda torn between the cream head tube and just having a solid color. My

Re: [RBW] Re: One week without a front derailleur

2014-08-08 Thread Matthew J
Wow. I had no idea. Wonderful. On Friday, August 8, 2014 2:35:26 PM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote: Ah I see, must be referring to this device? http://www.singlespeed.nl/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=31products_id=1505osCsid=db29d7f9d6b8c788f8b18fcc8765ad3e That is very cool.

Re: [RBW] Re: One week without a front derailleur

2014-08-08 Thread Bill Lindsay
It's $50 MSRP on the White Industries pricelist, and so any LBS that orders from White should be able to get it for you. I wonder if I could show up at MyM and talk them out of one? On Friday, August 8, 2014 12:50:49 PM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote: Wow. I had no idea. Wonderful. On

Re: [RBW] Re: Compass 650b 38 vs. 650b 42 mm tires question.

2014-08-08 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/08/2014 03:34 PM, lungimsam wrote: In what ways would the 42 be superior to the 38? That is what I really need to know. Thanks. They're wider. Obviously. Which means you can run less pressure. It also means a wider contact patch, which in my experience translates to better

[RBW] Re: Chain Length - Cheviot

2014-08-08 Thread Derek Lawrence
Thanks everyone. I bought a second chain as I wasn't able to find any 9-speed scraps at my LBS. Using a master link as suggested. Looks like it will work well. Peter - The chain was so short I wasn't able to shift up beyond the 4th ring on the cassette--it just maxed out. It was obvious when I

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-08 Thread Philip Williamson
Oh! I've been lapped in the singlespeed weight-weenie race! Philip www.biketinker.com On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:34:29 PM UTC-7, AD wrote: I have a 20.5 lbs SimpleOne with magnesium bottom bracket, Brooks titanium, Paul levers and cantis, JB greens, Phil 36h (can probably drop some

[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-08 Thread lungimsam
...still waiting for Jan Heine and Grant Petersen company to chime in on this...c'mon now y'all...join in on the fun... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

[RBW] Re: Chain Length - Cheviot

2014-08-08 Thread Garth
Glad you got another chain Derek. Yeah, that's what I was going to suggest, just buy one extra chain. Then use it as a feeder chain for when you need to add links to your next new chain. I think the Cheviot's long chainstays are much longer than other Riv's so few other than Cheviot owners

[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-08 Thread Bill Lindsay
Don't hold your breath. Jan doesn't ride a Rivendell (even though he still owns one), and Jan knows that bike weight doesn't matter anywhere near as much as people think. Grant also knows that handwringing over bike weight is a pointless exercise. He doesn't know what his bike(s) weigh,

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-08 Thread Chris Chen
do you want me to weigh it with or without the two racks of ribs? or the melon? On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Don't hold your breath. Jan doesn't ride a Rivendell (even though he still owns one), and Jan knows that bike weight doesn't matter anywhere

[RBW] Re: Compass 650b 38 vs. 650b 42 mm tires question.

2014-08-08 Thread ted
I recently changed tires from ~32mm GB Cerfs (very nice tires) to ~41mm Soma GR Greens (also very nice tires). On reasonable pavement I have not been immediately bowled over by the differences. Therefore I don't think I would find the difference between 38 and 42 significant. However it seems

[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-08 Thread Cecily Walker
I think Kelly wins for the heaviest bike. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 8:54:18 AM UTC-7, Kelly wrote: My Bombadil while touring... 110 lbs. https://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/9018162182/in/set-72157633975989097 Kelly On Sunday, August 3, 2014 3:04:20 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote: Since

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike locks ?

2014-08-08 Thread cyclotourist
Thanks for the 411! Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 11:00 AM, jeffrey kane jsk_onl...@mac.com wrote: Yep, he includes a hex key in every package (so does VO when they sell the skewers) --- of course, you can source these bolts on

[RBW] Re: Compass 650b 38 vs. 650b 42 mm tires question.

2014-08-08 Thread Anton Tutter
I have 32mm Grand Bois Cypres extralights on another bike, and agree that at the right pressure (about 55 psi front, 60 psi rear, in my case), they feel almost as good as a 42mm tire, at least on reasonable pavement. And the added advantage is significantly lower rotational weight, which I can

[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-08 Thread ted
Since I'm not doing anything with a point this evening anyway Ridable bikes on hand minus anything not bolted or zip tied on: ~53cm Gios road race bike, ~19.5 lbs (circa '80 weight weeny-ish steel w/ mostly current parts for ref) mostly campi 10sp ergo, cane creek weight weeny brakes,

[RBW] Are you in need of a bolt tuning?

2014-08-08 Thread Curtis McKenzie
Do you really need those heavy steel bolts? Reduce your bike weight with a good old fashion bolt tuning. http://faqload.com/faqs/bicycle-components/bolt-tuning-replacing-heavy-steel-bolts-with-titanium-aluminum-and-carbon-fiber -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] Re: Compass 650b 38 vs. 650b 42 mm tires question.

2014-08-08 Thread ted
Anton, thanks for the insight. My Cypres tires were the standard variety. I think they start to feel a bit loose between 65 and 60 psi in the rear. I'm just beginning my experiment with 42 mm tires. My first take is the GR Greens get a bit loose between 50 and 45 psi in the rear, and that 50

Re: [RBW] Are you in need of a bolt tuning?

2014-08-08 Thread Goshen Peter
But you could save a whole 150grams! On Aug 8, 2014 10:50 PM, Curtis McKenzie cmcy...@gmail.com wrote: Do you really need those heavy steel bolts? Reduce your bike weight with a good old fashion bolt tuning.

[RBW] Re: Compass 650b 38 vs. 650b 42 mm tires question.

2014-08-08 Thread Anton Tutter
I've had Hetres and now have Compass Babyshoe Passes. For smooth pavement, I've been running 40 psi front, 45 psi rear, and drop about 5 psi for rough roads or gravel. Anton On Friday, August 8, 2014 10:52:39 PM UTC-4, ted wrote: Anton, thanks for the insight. My Cypres tires were the

Re: [RBW] Are you in need of a bolt tuning?

2014-08-08 Thread cyclotourist
That combined with filling your inner-tubes with helium will really get you somewhere fast! Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Goshen Peter uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: But you could save a whole 150grams! On Aug 8, 2014

Re: [RBW] Compass 650b 38 vs. 650b 42 mm tires question.

2014-08-08 Thread Jim Bronson
I run the 38mm LoupLoups on both my Riv and my Soma GR so that I can stock one tire size, even though the GR can take 42 mm. On Friday, August 8, 2014, Jan Heine hein...@earthlink.net wrote: I'd recommend the Babyshoe Pass 650B x 42 mm if you have room. If 42 mm tires are a squeeze, take the

[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Soba Handlebars

2014-08-08 Thread Johnny Alien
I am still looking for these. Thought I would bump it to see if anyone had a set. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Compass Loup Loup Pass 650Bx38

2014-08-08 Thread Jim Bronson
Yes, the LoupLoups have been far better for me than any other tire I have tried on my Rivendell. I bought 4 more of them a couple of weeks ago to equip a new build and to replace the rear on the Riv. Which lasted at least 2500 miles. Most of the supple tires I tried before gave a very short

Re: [RBW] Re: One week without a front derailleur

2014-08-08 Thread ted
Bill, have you been up say Welch Creek rd. off Calaveras? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To