Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar (or other riv) as a dirt drop mountain bike?

Not sure what ebb the gryphon uses, but I too used to be wary of ebbs. However, the bushnell ebb on my Jones has been trouble free with not a single creak or slip for almost 3 years now. I would buy another in a heartbeat. Ebb are easier than track ends with disc brakes and allow to adjust a

[RBW] Re: All arounder Handlebar recommendations GO!

Have you tried Albatross flipped over? I have them that way on my Bike Friday and like it. On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 7:45:35 PM UTC-7, drew wrote: > > I have a sam and a hunqapillar. sam had mustache bars, hunq had albatross. > Then the hunq got albastache and the sam got the old

Re: [RBW] Ride report: 3 Rivendells together at Chatfield Reservoir Colorado

Wonderful pictures. Glad to see a double top tube out and about. Curtis On Tuesday, October 13, 2015, 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > The Gangs all here! > > Feeling guilty for not having my Atlantis along last ride, I re-built it > for todays 20+

[RBW] Ride report: 3 Rivendells together at Chatfield Reservoir Colorado

Lugs and homemade scones...yes, that works quite well. Chris Johnson Sanger, Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: All arounder Handlebar recommendations GO!

Oooh, this is gonna get a lot of responses I bet. Honestly, the albastache's for me have been the overall best so far, for multipurpose riding as they give an upright position *and* aggressive aero position (with the big drawback being that the brake levers are not in your hands for the

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar (or other riv) as a dirt drop mountain bike?

Agree on those surly ends. The worst! Though Eno hub with disc brakes ends up being a royal pain the a$$ too when you need to reinstall the rear wheel trailside and it limits me to only one hub for SS. Now that is really silly unless you don't care about SS. Ebb or sliders are the only clean

[RBW] All arounder Handlebar recommendations GO!

I have a sam and a hunqapillar. sam had mustache bars, hunq had albatross. Then the hunq got albastache and the sam got the old albatross bars because I figured it was silly to have 2 bikes with similar bars. Long story short, the albatross bars on the sam feel way too upright for my liking

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar (or other riv) as a dirt drop mountain bike?

The Gryphon is pretty good. I think it's fully designed to be a drop-bar MTB. Not a heavy tourer like a Fargo or AWOL. They're relatively inexpensive, well built and versatile. A little too versatile for me actually. I'd prefer not to have an eccentric BB, and the cable guides are bolt on ones

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar (or other riv) as a dirt drop mountain bike?

Well I hate, hate, HATE the track ends that Surly uses! The EBB isn't that bad, doesn't really creak or slip. I just think it's unnecessary added complexity. If someone wants to ride SS, they can get a White Ind ENO hub. Why make me have to have an EBB to accommodate them. First world problems.

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar (or other riv) as a dirt drop mountain bike?

Thanks for your suggestion! I started looking into the Singular Gryphon. That bike might be a little bit more what I'm looking for (less touring, more adventure day riding). I saw that it is sold out on their website, where can one get a hold of a size large of one of those? On Monday,

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar (or other riv) as a dirt drop mountain bike?

If you're looking for a largish monstercross style bike, I have to put in a shameless plug for my Velo Orange Camargue frameset for sale: http://bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-for-sale-post.html Designed for drop bars, single speed or geared, clearance for 2.25" tires, and a 350mm steerer

Re: [RBW] Re: C in October

Great report, Tony. It really was the perfect ride -- weather, trail, history, and most especially the company. Thanks to all who joined in and especially Chris for putting it all together! On Oct 12, 2015, at 10:37 PM, Tony DeFilippo > wrote:

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa geometry

The frame you mention is but "pie in the sky" as of today . No one can know a geometry for a bike that does not exist ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 12:05:05 PM UTC-4, iamkeith wrote: > > > - Even though I won't need one, I got curious and decided to check the > news regarding the Ravn progress, over on the rCog forum. Looks like that > project might be dead. Or at least its not going to be the uber-bike

[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunqapillar

Meh... I have 4 Tubus racks and 4 Ortlieb roll-top rear panniers. They get used every day by various members of my family. We have no complaints. They work. The engineering they present is necessary for quick attach/release functionality. This feature is critical for urban commuting and urban

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa geometry

If they plan on producing it sometime next year Riv must have their geometry charts finished by now. I hope they decide to make it in a larger stock size than do with any of their other large tired bikes. On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 7:10:00 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote: > > > > The frame you

[RBW] Re: FT - 48cm Noodles (heat treated)

PM sent, got on for ya! On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 10:57:21 PM UTC-4, Tony DeFilippo wrote: > > The 48's work ok for me but I think 46 is my size. Good shape, some > normal marks from use but not abused. I'm sure there is someone out there > wanting to try out the wider bars... > > I'm

Re: [RBW] Re: C in October

I'm back in Texas and trying to adjust back to real life. But I'm still inspired by the warm hospitality to do more of this. What a treat to meet you all! You are even more interesting than your internet celebrity personas! More photos and blog content coming, but here are my Day 1 photos...

Re: [RBW] Re: C in October

On 10/13/2015 07:54 AM, Pondero wrote: I'm back in Texas and trying to adjust back to real life. But I'm still inspired by the warm hospitality to do more of this. What a treat to meet you all! You are even more interesting than your internet celebrity personas! More photos and blog

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar (or other riv) as a dirt drop mountain bike?

I tend to use my Jamis Dragon for technical dirt riding but I have used my Rivendell Allrounder for a lot of dirt over the years. Below is a post that shows a bunch of different configurations of the model (that's the beauty of an AR obviously) but if you scroll through you will see some of the

[RBW] Re: New fat 700 tires! 700x42 ultra light

Further derailment and all that... I've ridden Parigi-Roubaix for as long as Will, as well as Eroica/Strada Bianca the past 3-4yrs. Not nearly as many miles as Will, but I also never had even a whiff of tread delamination. However, my first/only pair of Alamanzo started getting edge peels

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa geometry

Yes, the thing everyone seems to be missing outside "Hillborne with greater clearances" is "Hillborne with longer chainstays." Those two sum up Joe A. for me. On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 9:46:30 AM UTC-7, Matt R wrote: > > Hello all, > > Just wondering if anyone has insider knowledge about

Re: [RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

Thanks for the background, Rod. I assumed I was ignorant about some details, and probably leaving out others, and didn't take time to read all of the latest developments. I had gotten pretty excited about the bike when it was first announced, and even thought hard about getting one - before

Re: [RBW] Groceries and baskets

Here's some of my personal best loads - a 40lb bag of wood stove pellets tied down to my Nitto Campee using a wire shelf to distribute the load. A Honda cb750 engine block in a pannier, 24 beers, and a cord of wood. The bike handled quite well all things considered!

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar (or other riv) as a dirt drop mountain bike?

Ah, that's my bike! I love riding my Atlantis on single track. Though two comments - the long touring frame geometry makes the bike a bit slow to turn, at least compared to a modern mountain bike. Not a big deal at all though, but notable. The bigger issue I've had is pedal strike. The BB is

Re: [RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

What rims are you using, by the way? Here's mine, a Surly Trucker DeLuxe with Rat Trap Pass Extralights mounted > under Planet Bike Cascadia ATB fenders; I've taken to calling it the > Monster Trucker. Like it a lot... > > > rod > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa geometry

On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 8:50:39 AM UTC-6, Braxton Colagross wrote: > > Yes, the thing everyone seems to be missing outside "Hillborne with > greater clearances" is *"Hillborne with longer chainstays."* > That's what I had expected too, but those protovelos they sold in the Web

[RBW] Re: KATY TRAIL ARTICLE

Exec Summary: It's hard for me to recommend the Katy Trail as a destination trip, unless you relish the challenge/experience of riding the 2nd-longest trail in the country (it was still the longest when I rode it). If you're going to be nearby, no reason not to check it out. Avoid summer heat,

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa geometry

The problem here is the concept for this bike has bounced around a lot since the original Mystery Bikes were produced, and I'm not convinced the Protovelos were much more than design exercises. The only thing they nailed down was a head badge. On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 8:28:33 AM UTC-7,

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa geometry

Exactly ! Proto means prototype , which explains itself . Riv selling a proto-type frame means nothing as to whether or not that particular frame is what is to come . On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 12:14:00 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: > > The problem here is the concept for this

Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa geometry

You can see those Protovelos still pictured by navigating back in time on the Blug. What I couldn't find anymore are the descriptions that went with those photos. The descriptions went away after those Protovelos sold, I'm guessing.-Original Message- From: iamkeith

Re: [RBW] Groceries and baskets

Yup...I've seen Mark' beast of burden in action and yup , he hauls a lotta stuff on it. Doesn't seem to slow him down appreciably, though On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 10:08:12 AM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote: > > Here's some of my personal best loads - a 40lb bag of wood stove pellets > tied

[RBW] Re: FS 62 cm Yves Gomez

Sold! Thanks to all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] Re: C in October

Steve, I had to look up Dickerson on a map, and noticed it is near the Monocacy Aqueduct. We spent our first night in a H/B site just north of the Aqueduct... https://www.flickr.com/photos/28889177@N06/22109963272/in/dateposted-public/ I'm not sure if that is the area you are asking

Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa geometry

+1 The Appaloosa head badge is fantastic! On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Joe Bernard wrote: > The problem here is the concept for this bike has bounced around a lot > since the original Mystery Bikes were produced, and I'm not convinced the > Protovelos were much more

Re: [RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

Sun Rhyno Lite rims (27.5mm width, if memory serves), on Chris King hubs. rod -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar (or other riv) as a dirt drop mountain bike?

Give the Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross a look as well. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 7:05:19 PM UTC-7, brianweee wrote: > > Is anyone using their Rivendell Hunqapillar as a dirt drop mountain bike? > or monster cross bike style? I currently ride a 26"

Re: [RBW] Re: C in October

Hi Steve, Ed and I rode the trail back from Harper's Ferry, West Virginia, to D.C. on Sunday, and there were a few soft spots, but nothing unmanageable. The only issue is that the ground has begun to saturate in a few places so any additional rain we receive takes more time to drain. Again,

RE: [RBW] Re: C in October

Steve -- I don't know what it usually looks like, but according to my lights the trail was in excellent shape everywhere -- as Chris said, a few small puddles and some muddier patches, but considering all the rain in the days preceding, I was pleasantly surprised at how well it drained. Tom

[RBW] Re: KATY TRAIL ARTICLE

Yeah, riding in that area in the summer just isn't fun...heck, riding where I live (West Kentucky, isn't fun in the summer...especially August.) There is a fun town on that trail called Hermann. It has a winery, and their Octoberfest is awesome. It is well worth the journey there during

Re: [RBW] Re: C in October

I do like your photos! On 10/13/2015 04:03 PM, Mary Gersemalina wrote: Hi Steve, Ed and I rode the trail back from Harper's Ferry, West Virginia, to D.C. on Sunday, and there were a few soft spots, but nothing unmanageable. The only issue is that the ground has begun to saturate in a few

[RBW] Re: FT - 48cm Noodles (heat treated)

Er, got ONE for ya! On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 10:12:22 AM UTC-4, Paul Brodek wrote: > > PM sent, got on for ya! > > On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 10:57:21 PM UTC-4, Tony DeFilippo wrote: >> >> The 48's work ok for me but I think 46 is my size. Good shape, some >> normal marks from use

[RBW] Re: KATY TRAIL ARTICLE

Paul, > Thank you for sharing your experience riding the Katy Trail. Born and raised in Ohio I know about the heat and humidity and violent storms. Now living n Colorado where the humidity is 18% today, I might not tolerate the humidiy as well as I did growing up. I could appreciate the

Re: [RBW] Re: C in October

When I was there (minutes before my crash on Memorial Day in 2003, the "Warm Water Fishing Area" looked a bit like this, only without the half-tracks: That year, spring was the rasputitsa ... On 10/13/2015 03:48 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

Thansk for the 411 on that, Rod! I'm liking the looks of the Ulv as well: http://ravn.rawlandcycles.com/#ulv On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 6:32:47 AM UTC-7, Rod Holland wrote: > > > > On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 12:05:05 PM UTC-4, iamkeith wrote: >> >> >> - Even though I won't need one, I

Re: [RBW] Re: C in October

Fantastic pictures and write ups! You had a fantastic couple of days out there. Wish my schedule hadn't dictated work instead. Cheers to the vicarious adventuring these posts and the list in general provide when we can't get out for such a ride! Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Monday, October

[RBW] Re: BQ to publish study of pedal retention usefulness in Summer issue

Now that Summer is long past, does anyone who subscribes to BQ have a synopsis of what they found out about pedal retention usefulness that they'd like to share? On Friday, May 15, 2015 at 9:23:53 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Doubtless of interest to RBW listers. Quoted from the Compass

[RBW] Re: Clem Presale is over.

i'm kicking myself for not getting in on the Clem presale before it closed. my fingers are crossed that someone decides they dont love their 52cm and sells it to me! haha. if youre reading this and want to let yours go, DM me! otherwise i hope the upcoming Appaloosa is rad On Monday, October

Re: [RBW] Groceries and baskets

A cord! That's got my hugest load whooped and I often use a trailer that maxes at 300ish lbs. 24 packs I can do. Seen a gentleman in Beijing with a few hundred pounds of melons, that had looked like a record to me. Glad for my oil heat -Kai Brooklyn, NY -- You received this message because

Re: [RBW] Groceries and baskets

My mistake, thanks for the clarification. I glanced at it instead of looking carefully. I really like the Campee Classic (with removable lowrider) front racks. On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Mark Reimer wrote: > My rack actually isn't the big rack! It's the smaller

Re: [RBW] Groceries and baskets

Kudos to Mark. His Nitto 34F (Big Front Rack) is definitely a more capable of epic loads than the Nitto mini front racks. Tim On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Ryan Fleming wrote: > Yup...I've seen Mark' beast of burden in action and yup , he hauls a lotta >

Re: [RBW] Groceries and baskets

My rack actually isn't the big rack! It's the smaller more elegant campee model On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Tim Gavin wrote: > Kudos to Mark. > > His Nitto 34F (Big Front Rack) is definitely a more capable of epic loads > than the Nitto mini front racks. > >

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar (or other riv) as a dirt drop mountain bike?

Thanks everybody for their input & posting pictures of their awesome drop bar mountain bikes. All are very dreamy. :D @bill, the Black Mountain Monstercross seems to only clear 42mm. I want fat fat 2.3" tires. @eric, thanks for the link. I haven't heard too much about the Carmague. It

[RBW] Best rear support rack for med sadlesack?

This is for use on a Hunq. Was thinking about Mark's but may be too short? Anybody have any experience with this rack ? Would seat stay bridge accommodate this? Any other recommendations? Thanks much, D. -- You received this message because you

[RBW] Re: KATY TRAIL ARTICLE

I didn't read the article either. I have however ridden the trail and connecting trails multiple times over many seasons.I think you can get out of it what you want. If it's to just ride it then expect packed limestone trail and repetitive scenery to a point. However, and this is

[RBW] Bike Snob Ride Report, NYC

I grew up in NYC and used to ride the bridges and the parks, so I greatly enjoyed this ride report. http://blog.brooksengland.com/wps/you-cant-spell-brooklyn-without-brooks-though-you-will-be-stuck-with-a-leftover-s/ Meanwhile I am enjoying less stressful rides during Vermont's foliage season.

[RBW] FS: Surly Big Dummy

*$1500: *small, black with curved top bar in excellent condition (less than 100 miles); bought as a complete with a few changes. Comes with bags and wide loaders. *You can see photos and a list of components here* : https://selfpropelledlifestyle.wordpress.com/the-bikes/ -- You received

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar (or other riv) as a dirt drop mountain bike?

@clayton So true. I'm not sure what my main draw is to the drop bars. I think getting low enough on the road, and on climbs is the main reason. On my full suspension mtb, it's all about downhill. I think I like the idea of my a drop bar mountain bike that is made for climbing, road descending,

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar (or other riv) as a dirt drop mountain bike?

Look at a Jones with Jones bar. Allows you to go aero but scoot back when it matters. Clayton Scott SF, CA On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 3:15:41 PM UTC-7, brianweee wrote: > > @clayton So true. I'm not sure what my main draw is to the drop bars. I > think getting low enough on the road,

[RBW] Darning wool socks

The heels of my wool socks I bought from Riv are getting pretty thin. I thought I would try to reinforce them by darning. Has anyone tried that? Success or failure? Which type of wool did you use? Please, help me get out of this heel hole. :) Thanks, Aaron -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: Best rear support rack for med sadlesack?

See about the dimensions on that. I adapted a small Nitto front rack to the rear by making an angle piece that fastened to the stay bridge with the fender hole & drilling a hole in the angle for the mounting pin. For a couple of bucks more, Rivendell has the R-14 which is arguably one of

Re: [RBW] Best rear support rack for med sadlesack?

That rack is basically a rear version of the Nitto M-12. Cool. But, the Mark's Rack is much more adjustable, and the platform of the NR-21 doesn't appear to be any longer than the Mark's Rack (though it is wider) *NR-21:* Pros: That rack is designed for bikes with a drilled brake bridge and

[RBW] Ride report: 3 Rivendells together at Chatfield Reservoir Colorado

The Gangs all here! Feeling guilty for not having my Atlantis along last ride, I re-built it for todays 20+ miler at Chatfield Res just southwest of Denver. Insane cloudless blue skies, gravel, pavement, dirt, coffee, and LUGS! Hillborne, Hilsen, and Atlantis checking in!! Today, Jon brought

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa geometry

Yeah, at riv hq it was described as "like the hillborne but with more clearances". Could've changed since then, I guess, but the holding off on hillbornes and introducing the Appaloosa makes me think it's meant to fit in between sams and antlanti -- You received this message because you are