[RBW] FS: soon-to-be-spring cleaning

[Ryan Ray]

New Soma Deluxe Porteur Rack - Stainless Steel
$80 local pickup only Seattle
http://store.somafab.com/soma-porteur-rack--stainless-steel.html
Installed once, too big to ship which makes it a PITA to sell. All original 
hardware. Struts uncut. Ridded 1-2 times.

Like new Blue VP Vice Pedals
$35 Shipped CONUS
Ridden a few times. Just going to order black ones instead. 2 pins removed 
for comfort. Not the hex pins. I think they are an upgrade over the VP-001s.

Used Tiagra Group
$75 Shipped Conus
Maybe 500 miles? If that? 175 shimano CX crank which is a step up from the 
group. BB, crank, cassette, med or long cage rear der, front der, brifters 
in really nice shape. https://www.flickr.com/gp/ryanrray/11v820

New Wald Med Basket and red cargo net
$20 local pickup only Seattle
Never used.

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Re: [RBW] Re: F/S: Nitto, Clement, Velocity/Paul wheels, assorted goodies : )

[Bryan Richardson]

All rims are 36 hole. Thank you : )

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> Velocity rims hole count?
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[RBW] Re: Hunq Effective TT

[comveo]

No problem Garth. As accurately as I can measure, I'm getting 67.8cm

Hope this helps : )


-Bryan

On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 1:35:44 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote:
>
>
> Opps, that's Bryan with a y !  lol :) 
>
>
> On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 1:34:42 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hey Brian, if you have a moment , could you measure the front-center on 
>> your 62 ?   Just a measurement from the center crank bolt center front 
>> skewer is close enough for me. 
>>
>>Thanks ! 
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: "Biketinkers Union" patches

[Philip Williamson]

The Thinking Feller's Union rings a bell. I'll check them out!
So far the furthest sent was to New Zealand, and the nearest was right in 
town. 

Philip
www.biketinker.com

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>
> Great news, Philip! Ever hear of The Thinking Feller's Union? I saw them 
> at The Independent in SF way back in the early '90s. Music to do good work 
> by.
>
> Cheers,
> Patrick Shea
>
> On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Philip Williamson  > wrote:
>
>> Biketinkers Patch - UPDATE - I'm mailing out the patches today. I was 
>> very excited to get the Big Envelope today, and extra-pleased that Walter 
>> included a couple of the Snow Viking patches I drew for him. 
>>
>> I pre-addressed all the envelopes over the last several evenings, so you 
>> should get your shipping notices soon. 
>> Thanks for joining up! I'm queuing up some Dropkick Murphys 
>>  union songs for the packing operation. :^)
>>
>> Philip
>> www.biketinker.com
>>
>> On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 4:22:14 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm making my first "Biketinker" patches, with Walter at Falls Creek 
>>> Outfitters. He's going to tweak that R, and they'll be ready to ship in a 
>>> couple weeks. If you'd like to get a couple, they're $5 each over on my 
>>> Etsy shop. 
>>>
>>> These first ones are a Sheldon tribute, since he started a lot more 
>>> people than me down the path of wrenching on bikes, make mistakes, and 
>>> sometimes create new things. He was a true originator, and even today, if 
>>> you need esoteric bike information, "Ask And Sheldon Has The Answer." 
>>>  
>>>
>>> https://www.etsy.com/listing/264180515/325-biketinkers-union-patch-pre-order
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Many thanks!
>>> Philip
>>> www.biketinker.com 
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: soon-to-be-spring cleaning

[Ryan Ray]

Pedals and probably the Tiagra set are sold.

On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 8:50:56 AM UTC-8, Ryan Ray wrote:
>
> New Soma Deluxe Porteur Rack - Stainless Steel
> $80 local pickup only Seattle
> http://store.somafab.com/soma-porteur-rack--stainless-steel.html
> Installed once, too big to ship which makes it a PITA to sell. All 
> original hardware. Struts uncut. Ridded 1-2 times.
>
> Like new Blue VP Vice Pedals
> $35 Shipped CONUS
> Ridden a few times. Just going to order black ones instead. 2 pins removed 
> for comfort. Not the hex pins. I think they are an upgrade over the VP-001s.
>
> Used Tiagra Group
> $75 Shipped Conus
> Maybe 500 miles? If that? 175 shimano CX crank which is a step up from the 
> group. BB, crank, cassette, med or long cage rear der, front der, brifters 
> in really nice shape. https://www.flickr.com/gp/ryanrray/11v820
>
> New Wald Med Basket and red cargo net
> $20 local pickup only Seattle
> Never used.
>
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[RBW] Run SILVER DT shifters without the tab washer ok?

[Joe Bernard]

I ran a Silver on a bar-end pod for a few days 'cause I forgot to put it on and 
didn't even notice. It shifted fine without it.

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[RBW] Re: Hunq Effective TT

[Garth]

That great , thank you Bryan !! 


On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 1:59:38 PM UTC-5, comveo wrote:
>
> No problem Garth. As accurately as I can measure, I'm getting 67.8cm
>
> Hope this helps : )
>
>
> -Bryan
>
> On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 1:35:44 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote:
>>
>>
>> Opps, that's Bryan with a y !  lol :) 
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 1:34:42 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey Brian, if you have a moment , could you measure the front-center on 
>>> your 62 ?   Just a measurement from the center crank bolt center front 
>>> skewer is close enough for me. 
>>>
>>>Thanks ! 
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Sackville Medium large enough for 12 pack bottles and extras?

[Patrick Moore]

I am debating yet another large saddlebag, and I wonder if a Medium will
suffice. I owned one a couple of years ago and think the answer to my
question is "yes." but perhaps those of you who have mediums can confirm or
correct.

Does a Sackville Medium have enough volume for relatively easy entry of a
12 pack of 12 oz bottles + 2 or 3 clamshell takeout containers? My
converted Lands' End carryall/saddlebag conversion does, but it hangs very
awkwardly.

Same question about a Hoss, in the event a reader has one.

And: any other saddlebags large enough for this load?

Such a load is by volume (and weight) is a good test for my needs.

Saddlebag would be for the Dahon; would prefer not to clutter it up with a
rack.

Thanks.

Patrick Moore, who as usual sold the Medium he should have kept.

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[RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

[Tim Wood]

Sweet mixte!  You have quite the harem of cool city/utility/fun bikes Mark!  

Ya, I know what you mean with the front shifter, either I'm bumping it or maybe 
it is rattling out of position as I'm always giving it a couple clicks to stop 
chain rub. I was thinking it was a cable tension issue but I think you're on to 
something with the vibration theory. The bottom line is that these shifters 
weren't meant for this type of application, they are an internal gear hub 
shifter which I'm not going to pretend I know a lot about but I know that they 
work on very different shifting principles. 

Do you guys think if we canvassed the group and band together that Riv would 
help correct the issue and maybe offer a discount or credit toward some 
different shifters?  Probably a long shot. Based on the description they seem 
to love these things and they aren't going away cuz they're on basically every 
ready to ride. 

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[RBW] Re: Hunq Effective TT

[Garth]

Hey Brian, if you have a moment , could you measure the front-center on 
your 62 ?   Just a measurement from the center crank bolt center front 
skewer is close enough for me. 

   Thanks ! 


On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 1:22:38 PM UTC-5, comveo wrote:
>
> Hey Daniel,
>
> If it helps out, I just measure my (green, current model) 62cm 
> Hunqapillar's effective TT and I'm getting 64.5cm, which agrees with Garth 
> via Keven @ Rivendell. I measure this in the same way Bill L. had detailed. 
>
> Of course, Riv it up to confirm!
>
>
> -Bryan
>
>
> On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 8:30:13 AM UTC-5, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>>
>> OK. So I gather I should call Riv. I'll do that to close the case!
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

[Tim Wood]

Well, I bit the bullet and bought some ultegra 8 speed bar end shifters. Gonna 
run the rear indexed I think.  

And heads up, I got them for a great price from chain reaction cycles, $70 
Canadian, which is like what, $10 US? Haha just kidding, but a good deal. Threw 
some $30 all silver deore brake levers in the basket too and got free shipping  
from the UK. I've ordered from CRC before and they are good. 

I've never run bar ends so I am curious to see how I like them. I've had 
brifters, down tube, thumbies, trigger and grip shift so it's time. I was a 
little concerned with the shifters bumping my legs in turns but with the 
shorter then bosco Albas and the longish stem I have lots of room.  I was also 
wondering if I could dismantle the sunraces and use the bar mount with the 
ultegras, as a cheap Paul thumbie??

For grips I'm either going to slice a channel in the cheapo Clem grips or go 
with the felt padding/ newbaum set up. Slicing the grips may be tricky as there 
are thick finger grooves along the bottom. I decided to switch out the brake 
levers too because they are all silver, will probably have better performance 
over the tektros and I don't like how the fastening bolt on the tektros is 
right on top, it's often digging in to my hand. 

Both pieces of kit come with cables and housing too so I'm pretty happy with 
the deal. Yay, new bike parts!  I should be done spending now Oh but wheels 
and tires.hmmm. 

Tim "maybe I should have bought the frame only Clem" Wood

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[RBW] Re: Hunq Effective TT

[comveo]

Hey Daniel,

If it helps out, I just measure my (green, current model) 62cm 
Hunqapillar's effective TT and I'm getting 64.5cm, which agrees with Garth 
via Keven @ Rivendell. I measure this in the same way Bill L. had detailed. 

Of course, Riv it up to confirm!


-Bryan


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> OK. So I gather I should call Riv. I'll do that to close the case!

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[RBW] Re: Hunq Effective TT

[Garth]

Opps, that's Bryan with a y !  lol :) 


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>
>
> Hey Brian, if you have a moment , could you measure the front-center on 
> your 62 ?   Just a measurement from the center crank bolt center front 
> skewer is close enough for me. 
>
>Thanks ! 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Back to the Drawing Board for Kid Bike

[cyclotourist]

Slight topic drift, but here are two real nice bikes FS in Orange
County (Disneyland)
http://www.imtbtrails.com/forum/threads/two-kids-bikes-20-and-24.3836/

The 24" Hotrock with XTR is pretty nice!!!

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 7:22 AM, Jon Dukeman in the foothills of
Colorado  wrote:
> Leah,
> That's great to hear!
> A new bike is such a motivator but the old adage of "If the bike doesn't fit
> and the rider isn't comfortable, or if the bike doesn't function properly
> and it  isn't fun to ride then the rider won't ride it!"
> Enjoyed following your posts.
> Jon
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Re: [RBW] Re: Sackville Medium large enough for 12 pack bottles and extras?

[Daniel D.]

You forgot to mention that you can't watch it anyway because you either 
don't own a tv or your tv only gets PBS. 

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> The Super Bowl is that thing that happens so we can go riding on a Sunday 
> with no cars on the road. I think it's a concert..something like that. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sackville Medium large enough for 12 pack bottles and extras?

[Patrick Moore]

That's what I wanted to hear, and that's what I recall (vaguely) from my
own ownership. Thanks, Jim.

Patrick Moore, who missed that recent Medium, and who doesn't know from
Superbowl, in ABQ, NM.

On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 5:40 PM, Jim M.  wrote:

> Enough for a 12-pack, jumbo bag of chips, guac, bean dip, and salsa, if
> you're stocking up for the super bowl. The Medium is a large bag, and the
> large is humongous.
>
> jim m
> wc ca
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[RBW] Re: Sackville Medium large enough for 12 pack bottles and extras?

[Jim M.]

Enough for a 12-pack, jumbo bag of chips, guac, bean dip, and salsa, if 
you're stocking up for the super bowl. The Medium is a large bag, and the 
large is humongous.

jim m
wc ca

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[RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

[Joe Bernard]

I've run Ultegra bar-ends on Albas for many miles. You'll notice the bars 
suddenly being longer on mounts/dismounts and sharp turns, but it becomes a 
thing you unconsciously adjust for after a few rides. I've tried lots of 
different types of shifters, but always gravitate back to bar-ends 'cause 
they're so dang easy to reach and grab. Plus you get lots of room on the bar 
for alternate hand positions. I even put them on my new Clem with Boscos, but 
haven't ridden enough to know if this is going to work on such a 
long-reach-back bar. I'll keep y'all posted!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sackville Medium large enough for 12 pack bottles and extras?

[Joe Bernard]

The Super Bowl is that thing that happens so we can go riding on a Sunday with 
no cars on the road. I think it's a concert..something like that. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sackville Medium large enough for 12 pack bottles and extras?

[Justin August]

It's the thing that San Francisco donates $5million to because it's run by a 
starving "non-profit" called the NFL instead of its school system or homeless 
folks. In fact it runs them off the streets!

-Justin, grumpy in Oakland, Teaching in SF

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[RBW] Re: Rivs in the UK

[grrlyrida]

Like Drew I live in LA and tried out Betty Foys while up North for a 
wedding. I was so impressed with the staff and Grant that when I got back 
home, I choose a custom mixte. I was sized over the phone and trusted that 
Grant knew what he was doing and I was right. I take my mixte everywhere, 
except if I need to park it on the street downtown. It handles the LA 
potholed streets and the gravel on my most recent tour to Zion and Bryce. I 
know you won't be disappointed.

On Friday, January 29, 2016 at 12:18:16 PM UTC-8, drew wrote:
>
> i could be wrong, but i don't remember ever hearing or reading that 
> someone bought a bike from riv in the size recommended and they were 
> unhappy with the fit. though, i can see it being worth worrying  if you had 
> abnormal body proportions or something.  
>
> for me, im not sure how much i would get out of a test ride anyway. there 
> would be so many other factors that could come into play and im not a 
> geometry expert. i wouldnt trust myself to be able to weigh saddle height, 
> stem length, bar choice against a frame's angles on a short ride. 
>
> i live in los angeles and bought my 54cm hunqapillar without ever riding a 
> rivendell. maybe going up there wouldve been more responsible, but i also 
> wouldve been swayed by the diagatube that im not tall enough to 
> realistically need. since then, ive bought a used 56cm sam (my recommended 
> size), and my wife has a 45cm clem (her recommended size). we have zero 
> complaints across the board. 
>

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[RBW] Riv bike packing documentary

[Joe Bernard]

It's brilliant. My Clem frame came with a Pletscher rack and various parts 
taped to the triangle pieces. I actually stopped and admired Roman's packing 
job for a few minutes before removing everything from the frame. 

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[RBW] Re: F/S: Nitto, Clement, Velocity/Paul wheels, assorted goodies : )

[comveo]

Here's what's left, currently:


*Photos here*: https://www.flickr.com/photos/125432464@N02/


-Zefal Hp X 3 frame pump, black (well used)  $15

-Velocity Synergy 650b rims (pair, NEW) $60

-Shimano 600 front derailleur 28.6 clamp (used, tiny bit of rust, functions 
properly/no play) $10

-Nitto Noodle 48cm heat-treated handlebar (barely used, some tape residue) 
$45 *(pending payment)*

-Panaracer Col De La Vie 650x38c (NEW, pair) $30

-Clement X'Plor MSO 700x40c 60tpi (used for less than 20 miles) $60

-MKS Sylvan Touring pedals, 1 pair (well used, still spin very smoothly) 
$10 *(pending payment)*

-(Rear Wheel) Paul Components Jono Hub/Velocity Synergy O/C 36h/Wheelsmith 
DB-14 
(currently spaced and dished for 135mm 8 speed, less than 500 miles, all 
spacing plugs and endcaps included, skewer included free if needed) $150

-(Pair) Paul High Flange/Velocity Dyad 36h/Dt Swiss spoke wheelset (less 
than 1000 miles, flip flop rear hub, 15t cog included, 120mm & 130mm axles 
included as well) $300


On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 12:20:36 AM UTC-5, comveo wrote:
>
> Hey All,
>
>
> Up for sale are a heaping handful of items I'm looking to pass along. 
>
> All prices include shipping to the lower 48 US states. Please contact 
> off-list to inquire.
>
>
> *Photos here*: https://www.flickr.com/photos/125432464@N02/
>
>
> -Zefal Hp X 3 frame pump, black (well used)  $15
>
> -Velo Orange 44t chainguard (used, a few scuffs) $15
>
> -Velocity Synergy 650b rims (pair, NEW) $60
>
> -Shimano 600 front derailleur 28.6 clamp (used, tiny bit of rust, 
> functions properly/no play) $10
>
> -Nitto Marks Rack (lightly used) small S-bend struts included, ~3/4' cut 
> off original strut length $85
>
> -Nitto Noodle 48cm heat-treated handlebar (barely used, some tape residue) 
> $45
>
> -Panaracer Col De La Vie 650x38c (NEW, pair) $30
>
> -Clement X'Plor MSO 700x40c 60tpi (used for less than 20 miles) $60
>
> -MKS Sylvan Touring pedals, 1 pair (well used, still spin very smoothly) 
> $10
>
> -(Rear Wheel) Paul Components Jono Hub/Velocity Synergy O/C 36h/Wheelsmith 
> DB-14 
> (currently spaced and dished for 135mm 8 speed, less than 500 miles, all 
> spacing plugs and endcaps included, skewer included free if needed) $150
>
> -(Pair) Paul High Flange/Velocity Dyad 36h/Dt Swiss spoke wheelset (less 
> than 1000 miles, flip flop rear hub, 15t cog included, 120mm & 130mm axles 
> included as well) $300
>
>
>
> Thanks everyone!
>
>
> -Bryan
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: F/S: Nitto, Clement, Velocity/Paul wheels, assorted goodies : )

[Abcyclehank]

Velocity rims hole count?

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[RBW] Re: Hunq Effective TT

[Garth]

Lol. The geo chart is apparently not wholly correct, as I wrote about my 
correspondance with Keven @Riv. 

When the Hunq came out in 2010 I recall first buyers reporting their tt' s were 
longer than listed. This is why I emailed Keven about it.  Could Keven be 
mistaken ? Yes, he may have been.  The easist way to know is ask owners or 
someone at Riv to roughly and carefully measure an actual fràme from the center 
top headtube flat across virtually to the ceter set tube.  It need not be super 
precise, it will be obvious if it is closer to 62.5 or 64.5, for example.

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[RBW] Re: Hunq Effective TT

[Daniel Jackson]

OK. So I gather I should call Riv. I'll do that to close the case!

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[RBW] Run SILVER DT shifters without the tab washer ok?

[Lungimsam]

So I got this DT shifter clamp (
http://www.viacomponents.co.uk/via-down-tube.html) to put on my Sam so I 
can use Silver DT shifters on it because I want to try DT shifting.

Anyway, it is a VIA brand clamp. Looks just like the Problem Solvers 
version (http://problemsolversbike.com/products/downtube_shifter_mount1), 
but it is all silver colored.

Here's the problem:

When I put on the DT shifter tab washer (
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/sh17.htm), the post of the clamp it goes 
on is too tall, so it moves side to side freely on the post instead of 
sitting flat up against the clamp. When I mount the DT shifter on the post, 
I put the shifter with regular Silver washer on it like I'm supposed to (
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/sh16.htm), and it butts up against the 
clamp post end before making contact with the tab washer.

When mounted, the shifters move great. But the tab washer ( (
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/sh17.htm)) slides side to side on the 
clamp post.

I tried to use a bar end pod washer (
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/sh21space.htm) instead of the DT washer, 
but that doesn't work with the DT shifter, despite what PS website pics 
show.

So, it looks like the DT shifter will run fine installed without the tab 
washer (http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/sh17.htm), , just mounted against 
the boss end with the silver shifter washer up against it. Seems to move 
fine that way, *but what happens if I run the shifter without the tab 
washer that stops the lever rotation? *Do I just have to be careful not to 
move it too far when I shift, or will the lever spin out?

Thanks for any info.

I might get the Norma clamp one on ebay since it has been reported here 
that it works good with the silver dt shifters.

Anyone have a 31.8 dt shifter clamp they want to part with?

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[RBW] Re: F/S: Nitto, Clement, Velocity/Paul wheels, assorted goodies : )

[Shawn Granton]

Are the Col de la Vie tires 650A or 650B?

(yep, they are 650B)

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[RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Oops, Should have been more specific, Tim. I was referring to the Burley 
Piccolo currently on my Le Tour, not my Burley trailer. For the Clementine, 
the issue here, due to the long chainstays, is fabricating longer rack 
extensions from the Moose rack to the upper seat stay braze-ons.

After posting last night, I took another ride on the Clementine. I first 
tightened down the shifters using an allen key (where the old style often 
has the half ring that you can adjust tension by hand.) I tightened them up 
but still experienced the same issues, including ghost shifting. I did 
notice that, particularly with the front shifter, it is placed in such a 
way that I find it almost impossible not to contact it with my hand now and 
then, and it is super sensitive, even after tightening, so that may be a 
cause for the front constantly needing re-trimming. But the back still 
ghost shifts unexplainably. I suspect the inner mech on these may not be 
holding position well and slipping due to road vibrations, etc?



On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 1:09:48 AM UTC-5, Tim Wood wrote:
>
> Love the big dummy! Hey Mark, have you tried hooking up the burley trailer 
> yet? Because of the shape of the Clem rear dropouts I wasn't able to 
> install my chariot trailer receiver. I guess we'll be needing this part to 
> make it happen https://burley.com/product/hitch-adapter/.  However I read 
> a few reviews on Amazon that said the adapter caused excess stress on the 
> quick release and bent them.  There's also the classic hitch option but not 
> super keen on clamping that thing on my frame. 




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