[RBW] Bar bag for the Riv Bullmoose bar?

[drew]

I agree on the bar tube. It fits nicely on my bullmoose, but I always carry too 
much to fit in it...as such, I have a newish dark brown one if you're interested

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bosco, Albatross, Sackville, Silver/shimano shifters, VP Pedals, Nitto Stems

[Ray Varella]

Pm sent

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Re: [RBW] Sam got hitched: breaking in the Cheviot with a C overnight

[René Sterental]

Wonderful! Her smile in the bike is priceless!

René

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 9:24 PM John Stowe  wrote:

> I've had my Sam Hillborne almost 5 years ago now, and I've been hoping to
> get my wife on a Riv since then. Our upcoming Erie Canal trip this summer
> provided the perfect excuse. Partial build from Gravel & Grind in
> Frederick, MD (co-owner Tracy generously offered us hers after a test ride,
> as there's currently a shortage of orange frames) with other parts
> scrounged from this list and the local coop (the second set of Dura Ace bar
> ends I've found there!) to keep costs down. A few minor refinements to
> make, but overall she's very happy with the pretty standard "Riv-ish"
> build. I liked the Spank Oozy pedals on the test ride and got an extra pair
> for my Sam.
>
> I finished building in time for a Friday morning (three Fridays ago, I'm
> slow sorting through pictures) "shake-down" commute, during which nothing
> broke, so it was off to Hagerstown to drop the kid with grandma. After
> Saturday morning's rain let up, we loaded up the bikes and went for a spin
> on the C Canal. We discovered a folk festival at Fort Frederick, with
> lots of canvas tents and colonial-era costumes, and ate dinner at a diner
> in Hancock, MD. Since we were trying some new camping gear as well as the
> new bike, we only went a couple of miles further to the next campsite,
> which we had all to ourselves, to leave time to make some mistakes and
> still get set up in daylight. Plus, 34 miles seemed like enough for a first
> outing on the Cheviot. In the morning we ate breakfast at the same
> restaurant, and did part of the return trip on the Western Maryland Rail
> Trail. Again, pretty deserted - maybe we're just used to the high weekend
> traffic in DC and Alexandria!
>
> Perhaps the rain kept a few people away, but we were surprised at how
> empty the trail was. There were stretches of an hour or more where we
> didn't encounter anyone else. There were some mud puddles here and there,
> but nothing too challenging despite our slick-ish tires. Definitely a
> confidence booster for us both looking forward to the Erie Canal in July.
>
> Coupla pics:
>
>
> 
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> 
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>
>
> More pics:
> https://flic.kr/s/aHskWumNT4
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[RBW] Sam got hitched: breaking in the Cheviot with a C overnight

[John Stowe]

I've had my Sam Hillborne almost 5 years ago now, and I've been hoping to 
get my wife on a Riv since then. Our upcoming Erie Canal trip this summer 
provided the perfect excuse. Partial build from Gravel & Grind in 
Frederick, MD (co-owner Tracy generously offered us hers after a test ride, 
as there's currently a shortage of orange frames) with other parts 
scrounged from this list and the local coop (the second set of Dura Ace bar 
ends I've found there!) to keep costs down. A few minor refinements to 
make, but overall she's very happy with the pretty standard "Riv-ish" 
build. I liked the Spank Oozy pedals on the test ride and got an extra pair 
for my Sam.

I finished building in time for a Friday morning (three Fridays ago, I'm 
slow sorting through pictures) "shake-down" commute, during which nothing 
broke, so it was off to Hagerstown to drop the kid with grandma. After 
Saturday morning's rain let up, we loaded up the bikes and went for a spin 
on the C Canal. We discovered a folk festival at Fort Frederick, with 
lots of canvas tents and colonial-era costumes, and ate dinner at a diner 
in Hancock, MD. Since we were trying some new camping gear as well as the 
new bike, we only went a couple of miles further to the next campsite, 
which we had all to ourselves, to leave time to make some mistakes and 
still get set up in daylight. Plus, 34 miles seemed like enough for a first 
outing on the Cheviot. In the morning we ate breakfast at the same 
restaurant, and did part of the return trip on the Western Maryland Rail 
Trail. Again, pretty deserted - maybe we're just used to the high weekend 
traffic in DC and Alexandria!

Perhaps the rain kept a few people away, but we were surprised at how empty 
the trail was. There were stretches of an hour or more where we didn't 
encounter anyone else. There were some mud puddles here and there, but 
nothing too challenging despite our slick-ish tires. Definitely a 
confidence booster for us both looking forward to the Erie Canal in July.

Coupla pics:










More pics:
https://flic.kr/s/aHskWumNT4

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[RBW] Re: New Chev

[adam leibow]

how do you find the rear brake works with that long straddle cable? i am 
looking to do the same set up. 

On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 11:53:13 AM UTC-7, Antone Könst wrote:
>
> Got my dream frame, 60 orange chevy, from Clayton a few weeks ago.  He did 
> a great job packing and shipping BTW>
>
> Been riding like a dream, even with all the cheap parts from my faux-riv 
> Nishiki build and ugly electrical tape (there intentionally bad, to deter 
> thieves).   Paul Racers and Thumbies, and the dynamo hub and lights in 
> front and back are the exception there.  
>
> One weird thing is the Surly 8-Pack I put on there...the Wald struts and a 
> shoelace help keep it in place since there isn't anything besides the 
> mid-fork mount keeping it horizontal otherwise...probably will engineer one 
> tho since I've been putting my puppy upfront for the 5 mile ride to my 
> studio along the East River.  She hates it, BTW, any tips on dogs on a bike 
> are welcome!  
>
> Other image is a painting I made, Night Rider, up now at Hometown Gallery 
> in Brooklyn.  Just thought this group might appreciate it :) 
>
> I love this bike, it makes me happy every day. 
>
>

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[RBW] Bar bag for the Riv Bullmoose bar?

[Joe Bernard]

You can't go wrong with Riv's Bar Tube. I don't know if it qualifies as 
mid-size, but I've jammed a ridiculous amount of stuff in both of mine. It's 
also nice with the hook-and-loop straps 'cause it's easy to take with you for a 
quick store run.

 

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[RBW] Re: Bar bag for the Riv Bullmoose bar?

[adam leibow]

I have these bars and can try them with the roadrunner jammer if that's the 
size bag you're looking for. the jammer i ordered hasnt arrived though. 

On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 6:50:01 PM UTC-7, Zach Duval wrote:
>
> Any recommendations for a mid-sized bag to loop around a set of Bullmoose 
> bars, one that won't interfere with brake and shifter cables?
>
> Thanks! 
>

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[RBW] WTB: XL/XXL trail bike

[Reid Echols]

I'm in the market (aren't we all?) these days, looking for a solid, probably 
steel-framed, trail bike. Rigid is ok, vintage is ok; just looking for 
something I can have some fun on offroad, maybe take camping, and hit the 
Austin trails. 

Basically, I'm looking for a Hunq, but I'm hoping to find something a little 
lower cost. I'm open to frame-sets or full builds. Just built up my first Riv, 
a 64cm Waterford Sam, and it's got me covered for any road that warrants the 
name. This is for primarily trails. 

So if you've got something lying around, or a lead on something like this, I'd 
love to hear about it! 

Thanks, 
Reid

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[RBW] Bar bag for the Riv Bullmoose bar?

[Zach Duval]

Any recommendations for a mid-sized bag to loop around a set of Bullmoose bars, 
one that won't interfere with brake and shifter cables?

Thanks! 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bosco, Albatross, Sackville, Silver/shimano shifters, VP Pedals, Nitto Stems

[Reid Echols]

PM sent re: downtube shifters and XT cassette

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[RBW] PSA: Rivendell LongLow and Yves Gomez in CT on Craigslist

[Max S]

That long low is nice... especially with those "Magic MA2" rims that support 
"700x300" tires...

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Re: [RBW] Leah's Bicycle Bus! (and question)

[Tim Butterfield]

In addition to the camera search, especially by the mall, there is also
theft of public property, the traffic cones.  I wonder if that would be
sufficient for a warrant to search.  Or, just wait for garbage collection
day and check the can at the curb for disposal of them.  Depending on
jurisdiction, once placed on the public curb for disposal, they are no
longer protected from search.  If found, they might have fingerprints that
would identify the perpetrator.

Tim

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 5:26 PM, REC  wrote:

> That's a great idea and I hope so.  Do they want to wait until someone is
> hurt to stop this, especially when it's not an isolated instance?
> Roberta
>
> On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 8:15:41 PM UTC-4, Ray Varella wrote:
>
>> Just out of curiosity, are there any traffic cameras or security cameras
>> that can put this guy behind the wheel?
>> You won't get him for DUI but you may be able to put some pressure on the
>> police to get him for some sort of wreckless endangerment.
>>
>> Ray
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[RBW] Re: Handlebar Bliss

[Broccoli Cog]

Thanks for all of the thoughtful feedback everyone. Tonight I raised the 
bars on my current set up to see if that makes a difference. I came up a 
full 2 cm's while still remaining below the min insertion line. I am going 
to try to ride the bike this way for a while to see If that makes a 
difference with my neck pain. If that doesn't work I think the Albastache 
would be my first choice.  I think it might be a good compromise between 
drop bars and upright. I also think these bars would look awesome on my 
Sam! I also think this would be an easier transition with my current 
cockpit set up. I could keep the current stem and road brake levers that I 
already have.  If I switch to the Albatross I would want a new stem,  new 
MTB style brake levers and possibly extra long cables for my tall sized 
bike. A little more money then I want to spend on this experiment that I am 
currently obsessing about.  

On Sunday, May 14, 2017 at 5:01:17 PM UTC-4, Broccoli Cog wrote:
>
> Looking for thoughts from those of you who have switched from drop bars to 
> something more upright such as the Mustache or Albatross.Why did you end up 
> switching and what was the outcome? 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Leah's Bicycle Bus! (and question)

[REC]

That's a great idea and I hope so.  Do they want to wait until someone is 
hurt to stop this, especially when it's not an isolated instance?
Roberta

On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 8:15:41 PM UTC-4, Ray Varella wrote:

> Just out of curiosity, are there any traffic cameras or security cameras 
> that can put this guy behind the wheel?
> You won't get him for DUI but you may be able to put some pressure on the 
> police to get him for some sort of wreckless endangerment. 
>
> Ray
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Re: [RBW] Leah's Bicycle Bus! (and question)

[Ray Varella]

Just out of curiosity, are there any traffic cameras or security cameras that 
can put this guy behind the wheel?
You won't get him for DUI but you may be able to put some pressure on the 
police to get him for some sort of wreckless endangerment. 

Ray

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bosco, Albatross, Sackville, Silver/shimano shifters, VP Pedals, Nitto Stems

[Philip Kim]

Yeah they are

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Re: [RBW] Sugino XD2 Triple with Ultegra 8Spd Bar End Shifter at Max Travel

[John Hawrylak]

Jeremy & others

Thanks for the ideas.  to addresses Jeremy's & other comments:

The LBS disassenmbled the left bar end and said it was all there.  I'll 
remember to check the orientation of the tab.  I left others do the work.  
I remember the tab when I initially installed the bar ends

The MT-60 FD is less than 2 mm from the top of the big ring with chain on 
the middle.  Any closer would invite rubbing.  Before the XD2 I had Biopace 
with a 50T and swapped to 48T without adjusting the MT60 height.  No 
problems

I'll have to check the amount of cable tension in the lowest gear.

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ


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[RBW] Re: FS: Bosco, Albatross, Sackville, Silver/shimano shifters, VP Pedals, Nitto Stems

[John Hawrylak]

are the NIB Ultegra bar end shifters the BS64 model (2/3 x 8)???

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ


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Re: [RBW] Handlebar Bliss

[James Warren]

I've primarily used Albatross and Bosco, because even with a perfectly 
positioned drop bar, I never use the lower position in the drops.


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> On May 14, 2017, at 3:08 PM, Timothy Hurley  
> wrote:
> 
> I just got the bullmoose Choco bars and I love them. Sweat spot between 
> sporty and comfy. The bullmoose makes them super solid, they feel great. 
> 
> -T.J.
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[RBW] Re: Handlebar Bliss

[Jeremy Tavan]

I didn't specifically _swap_ from drop bars to Albastaches, but when I put 
together my commute bike I decided I wanted to try Albastache bars and have 
found a combination that seems to work really well for me. Albastache bars, 
Dia Compe stoker hand supports out front, a thumb shifter, and reverse 
brake levers. I love how wide the upright position is, I love still being 
able to brake (with the little fingers) from my preferred cruise position 
right at the start of the curves, and there's also the extra-stretched-out 
position on the forward hand supports for mixing things up. The only thing 
that's not really working well is the thumbie-mounted Silver friction 
shifter (cut down lever with rubber grip). It's not holding tension 
properly and has to be snugged tight at least once per ride, sometimes 
more. But that's a subject for another thread. I did notice that with the 
Albastache, it was really important to get the stem up higher than the 
saddle to avoid feeling like I was going to go over the handlebars during 
stops. Now that I've done that, I think this setup is a keeper.

/Jeremy



On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 9:54:35 AM UTC-7, David Banzer wrote:
>
> I'm in the process of swapping Nitto B132s on my BMC Monstercross for 
> Albastaches. The drops worked fine on the bike, but more muddier rides I 
> think I'll enjoy the wider, slightly more upright bar.
> I've tried original mustaches before and they didn't work for me on longer 
> rides, but the Albastaches are looking like they might work just fine.
> David
>
>
> On Sunday, May 14, 2017 at 4:01:17 PM UTC-5, Broccoli Cog wrote:
>>
>> Looking for thoughts from those of you who have switched from drop bars 
>> to something more upright such as the Mustache or Albatross.Why did you end 
>> up switching and what was the outcome? 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bosco, Albatross, Sackville, Silver/shimano shifters, VP Pedals, Nitto Stems

[Philip Kim]

Forgot to add the cassettes...

SRAM PG-850 11-30 8 speed cassette, NIB - $20

Shimano XT 9 speed cassete, NIB, I have two of these - $30 each

On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 1:56:57 PM UTC-4, Philip Kim wrote:
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 11:29:02 AM UTC-4, Philip Kim wrote:
>>
>> Sold my Appaloosa to a local lister, but parted out some of it. Maybe it 
>> could be of use on some of your tandems? Pictures HERE 
>> 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *Shipping is included in the listed price*, and listed price is net to 
>> myself via paypal friends and family. Almost everything has seen very low 
>> mileage / great shape, unless stated as new or new-in-box. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> (SOLD) -650b dynamo front wheel, velocity dyad rim, DT Swiss double 
>> butted spokes laced to Shutter Precision dyno hub 32h, 10 miles of use - 
>> $225
>>
>>
>> -Nitto Bosco handlebar, 55cm  heat-treated aluminum - $80
>>
>>  
>>
>> -Paul V-Brake Levers - $85
>>
>>  
>>
>> (SOLD) -Shimano Ultegra Bar Ends -$45
>>
>>  
>>
>> (SOLD) -Paul thumb mounts - $45
>>
>>  
>>
>> -Miesha corck grips w/ amber shellac - $18
>>
>>  
>>
>> -Nitto Tallux stem 120mm 25.4 clamp - $65
>>
>>
>> -Nitto Albatross heat treated aluminum - $70
>>
>>  
>>
>> -Nitto Technomic Delux Stem 110mm 25.4 clamp (new) - $68
>>
>>  
>>
>> -Rivendell Sackville Shopsack Medium Olive, seen use but in great shape - 
>> $50
>>
>>  
>>
>> -Rivendell Sackville Shopsack Medium Tan, seen use but in great shape - 
>> $50
>>
>>  
>>
>> -Microshift 10 speed thumbshifter for index for Shimano 10 speed MTB rear 
>> derailleur, also has friction option (NIB, right shifter only) - $35
>>
>>  
>>
>> -Dura Ace 7700 downtube shifters (NIB) - $50
>>
>>  
>>
>> -Rivendell Silver downtube shifters (NIB) - $40
>>
>>  
>>
>> -Shimano Ultegra Bar End (NIB) - $55
>>
>>
>> (SOLD) -Rivendell Leather straps 15 inch  (pair), new, - $ 20
>>
>>  
>>
>> (SOLD) -VP Pedals VP-001 "thin gripster" pedals grey (NIB) - $50
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Hubbuh Gears

[Ray Varella]

Getting in sync with your stoker has a huge role in riding uphill. 
This is particularly true if you try to stand for hills. 

On my road oriented tandem, I have 30 tooth front and 30 tooth rear. 
This has been an issue with less experienced stokers and has had ME standing 
and going as hard as I can while they did less work. 

Gearing aside, get really familiar with your stoker before attacking anything 
too steep. 

These HHH tandems are ideal for all the fun things a tandem is great for. 
A 24 front with a 34 or 36 rear should cover most needs under most conditions. 
Preparing your riding partner for what's in store is a real responsibility for 
the captain. 
The stoker is never at fault, IMHO

Ray

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[RBW] FS- front and rear Surly HD racks $175

[alan lavine]

Howdy,
These are the biggens, intended for fully loaded touring. Front rated for 
70 lbs and rear 80 lbs.  Used on one tour and then retired.  They have the 
usual scratches on the corners but are perfect otherwise.  All hardware 
included, silver color.

Buyer pays shipping.  Prefer not to break up the set as I need the space 
and the money.
Thanks for your interest.

Alan
NYC

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bosco, Albatross, Sackville, Silver/shimano shifters, VP Pedals, Nitto Stems

[Philip Kim]

On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 11:29:02 AM UTC-4, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> Sold my Appaloosa to a local lister, but parted out some of it. Maybe it 
> could be of use on some of your tandems? Pictures HERE 
> 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *Shipping is included in the listed price*, and listed price is net to 
> myself via paypal friends and family. Almost everything has seen very low 
> mileage / great shape, unless stated as new or new-in-box. 
>
>  
>
> (SOLD) -650b dynamo front wheel, velocity dyad rim, DT Swiss double butted 
> spokes laced to Shutter Precision dyno hub 32h, 10 miles of use - $225
>
>
> -Nitto Bosco handlebar, 55cm  heat-treated aluminum - $80
>
>  
>
> -Paul V-Brake Levers - $85
>
>  
>
> (SOLD) -Shimano Ultegra Bar Ends -$45
>
>  
>
> (SOLD) -Paul thumb mounts - $45
>
>  
>
> -Miesha corck grips w/ amber shellac - $18
>
>  
>
> -Nitto Tallux stem 120mm 25.4 clamp - $65
>
>
> -Nitto Albatross heat treated aluminum - $70
>
>  
>
> -Nitto Technomic Delux Stem 110mm 25.4 clamp (new) - $68
>
>  
>
> -Rivendell Sackville Shopsack Medium Olive, seen use but in great shape - 
> $50
>
>  
>
> -Rivendell Sackville Shopsack Medium Tan, seen use but in great shape - $50
>
>  
>
> -Microshift 10 speed thumbshifter for index for Shimano 10 speed MTB rear 
> derailleur, also has friction option (NIB, right shifter only) - $35
>
>  
>
> -Dura Ace 7700 downtube shifters (NIB) - $50
>
>  
>
> -Rivendell Silver downtube shifters (NIB) - $40
>
>  
>
> -Shimano Ultegra Bar End (NIB) - $55
>
>
> (SOLD) -Rivendell Leather straps 15 inch  (pair), new, - $ 20
>
>  
>
> (SOLD) -VP Pedals VP-001 "thin gripster" pedals grey (NIB) - $50
>

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[RBW] FS: 700c Alex DM18 Wheelset - mismatched hubs. $80

[David Banzer]

Sorry for the re-post, didn't put 'wheelset' in subject line...

Clem got an updated dynamo wheelset, so selling previous wheels. 
I built these up a while ago, can't remember exactly when, and they've been 
on a few of my bike at different points.
They handled wider tires just fine and work well on my Clem with 29x2.35 
tires, though worked best with 2.1" and under.

Alex DM18 Rims - previous version, these have single eyelets, look like a 
wider Sun CR18
Rear Hub - Shimano Deore silver 7-speed era, 135mm, fits Hyperglide and 
Uniglide cassettes, can be converted to an 8/9/10 speed cassette, no skewer
Front Hub - unbranded Formula high flange cartridge bearing hub, bolt-on 
though axle is hollow - I've shortened another hub's axle and used it with 
a qr skewer just fine
36 spokes per wheel - rear spokes are double-butted for sure, I think front 
are as well, will confirm

While I've built well over 50 wheels in my lifetime, I'm for sure an 
amateur wheelbuilder, with no aspirations of being an expert. 
That being said, these wheels worked just fine, and I've never had issues 
with wheels I've built for my own bikes.

$80 for both wheels. Local sale preferred, but can ship if you're not in a 
rush as I'll need to track down a wheel box.
Paypal Personal for payment please.
Contact offlist if interested.
Thanks,
David
River Grove, IL

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[RBW] FS: 700c Alex DM18 - mismatched hubs. $80

[David Banzer]

Clem got an updated dynamo wheelset, so selling previous wheels. 
I built these up a while ago, can't remember exactly when, and they've been 
on a few of my bike at different points.
They handled wider tires just fine and work well on my Clem with 29x2.35 
tires, though worked best with 2.1" and under.

Alex DM18 Rims - previous version, these have single eyelets, look like a 
wider Sun CR18
Rear Hub - Shimano Deore silver 7-speed era, 135mm, fits Hyperglide and 
Uniglide cassettes, can be converted to an 8/9/10 speed cassette, no skewer
Front Hub - unbranded Formula high flange cartridge bearing hub, bolt-on 
though axle is hollow - I've shortened another hub's axle and used it with 
a qr skewer just fine
36 spokes per wheel - rear spokes are double-butted for sure, I think front 
are as well, will confirm

While I've built well over 50 wheels in my lifetime, I'm for sure an 
amateur wheelbuilder, with no aspirations of being an expert. 
That being said, these wheels worked just fine, and I've never had issues 
with wheels I've built for my own bikes.

$80 for both wheels. Local sale preferred, but can ship if you're not in a 
rush as I'll need to track down a wheel box.
Paypal Personal for payment please.
Contact offlist if interested.
Thanks,
David
River Grove, IL

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[RBW] Re: Hubbah head badge question

[David Banzer]

Not a Hubbah, but the 2 Clems I've purchased came shipped without 
headbadges installed.
David

On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 9:38:04 AM UTC-5, Tim wrote:
>
> Fedex delivered the tandem on Saturday. The head badges came in the box, 
> but not attached to the bike. I just wondered if everyone got theirs that 
> way. It's not even remotely a big deal, just curious. To show the 
> not-at-all-big-dealness of this: Many months ago, maybe even a year or 
> more, I noticed the head badge on the AHH was loose. Of course, me being 
> me, I did nothing. Since I always have my Berthoud handlebar bag on the 
> bike, I never really see the head tube. So while doing maintenance and 
> having the bag off, I noticed it was now gone. I emailed Will at Riv back 
> in April and asked if I could pick one up when I'm in the bay area (Bay 
> Area?) in June. He said that's too long to be without a head badge and 
> mailed me one, gratis. They are the best!!! 

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[RBW] Re: Handlebar Bliss

[David Banzer]

I'm in the process of swapping Nitto B132s on my BMC Monstercross for 
Albastaches. The drops worked fine on the bike, but more muddier rides I 
think I'll enjoy the wider, slightly more upright bar.
I've tried original mustaches before and they didn't work for me on longer 
rides, but the Albastaches are looking like they might work just fine.
David


On Sunday, May 14, 2017 at 4:01:17 PM UTC-5, Broccoli Cog wrote:
>
> Looking for thoughts from those of you who have switched from drop bars to 
> something more upright such as the Mustache or Albatross.Why did you end up 
> switching and what was the outcome? 
>
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Re: [RBW] Leah's Bicycle Bus! (and question)

[Ryan Fleming]

Good advice, Ian and that's what I usually try to doi.e. avoid heavy 
traffic. One thing I will NOT do is give up riding. To be fair my run-in 
happened at a time I usually don't leave work. I leave for work around 9 am 
and  start home around 6pm to avoid rush hour. On the day of my collision I 
left work about 3:20pm  so... a bit of construction going on and just the 
time when kids were leaving school. Had I followed my normal routine, I 
probably would have been fine.

I'm certainly glad you didn't break any bones and that you healed well; I 
also realize that I was very fortunate too and I'm grateful. Could have 
been worse. I just wish drivers would pay more attention...but to be fair 
it's not always the drivers' fault in these situations as I think we all 
know. However in a car-bike collision the cyclist is the loser

On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 1:09:48 AM UTC-5, Ian A wrote:
>
> Ryan,
>
> My own experience of being hit  was being struck from behind at speed 
> which led to thirty facial stitches, but miraculously no broken bones. The 
> face healed well and only faint scars remain. This happened in 2010. I 
> resumed riding a few weeks after the crash as I had to recover from road 
> rash and heavy bruising, but I was tentative. I ride a lot of miles each 
> year, but the memory of the crash stays with me. It doesn't spook me or 
> make me ride less, it's just there in my subconscious. One thing I do now 
> is avoid "conflict zones"  - areas where traffic might be distracted or 
> stressed. A  couple of km detour is worth the effort to avoid the risky 
> bits. The mojo never goes away.  
>
> IanA.
>
> On Friday, May 12, 2017 at 5:44:17 PM UTC-6, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Leah
>>
>> Physically , I am almost back to normal. Not doing long rides yet as 
>> there is still some residual stiffness. Mentally I'd say I lost more than 
>>  a little of my bike mojo. I am riding to and from work and afraid I 
>> haven't yet ridden the 2nd BBITW  (the first being your Betty).  ButI'm 
>> working on it. Accident affected me psychologically  more than I'd hoped 
>> and I tend to be a rider who is happiest on quieter,  emptier roads at the 
>> best of times. 
>>
>> I won't give up riding though and I'll just focus on what I feel 
>> comfortable with for now and work up
>>
>> I hope this driver has the book thrown at him because it sounds more like 
>> malice then stupidity/distraction and I am so  glad you and your sons and 
>> the other kids are safe. You are a tiger mother  :)
>>
>> On Friday, May 12, 2017 at 5:46:53 PM UTC-5, LeahFoy wrote:
>>>
>>> Ryan, this is AWFUL. I'm not surprised this happened to you in a school 
>>> zone - parents are distracted and rushed and just generally at their worst 
>>> in school zones. It's a battlefield out there. I think that's why you see 
>>> so many So-and-So-Memorial crossings by schools. Blood will run in the 
>>> streets eventually as long as we have cars swirling around school zones. A 
>>> compressed L1 vertebra is really something; so sorry this happened to you. 
>>> Your thoughts on a GoPro are my thoughts, too - I wish I'd had one! I don't 
>>> even know how they work or how to use one, but sure seems like it would 
>>> have been useful yesterday. 
>>>
>>> I found one of the kids who was there on that sidewalk after school. The 
>>> kid was really hesitant to give me any information (as he well should be) 
>>> said he didn't know his mom's cell phone number, has no phone of his own 
>>> but was willing to give up "my mom's house phone." Then he promptly told me 
>>> he'd be really hard to make contact with. Sigh. I am also 99% sure he has 
>>> special needs and am not sure how he will be at recalling and repeating 
>>> events. I emailed the number to the officer and while I was at it, asked if 
>>> he was ever able to make contact with the driver. Here is his emailed 
>>> response: " Yes I was able to track down the driver.  I issued him multiple 
>>> citations for the violations.  I spoke to him at length about your concerns 
>>> and the safety of the public.  He will have a future court date.  Thanks."
>>>
>>> I feel happy that the driver has been tracked down and dressed down, but 
>>> not happy that he wasn't arrested and his license revoked, though I kept my 
>>> opinions to myself. I also wonder what his side of the story is, but I dare 
>>> not ask the officer any more questions as I feel I may be dangerously close 
>>> to nagging, ha!
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bosco Bullmoose Bars

[Johnny Alien]

Sold

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Re: [RBW] Leah's Bicycle Bus! (and question)

[Ian A]

Good point Deacon, that when geography or time of day cannot be avoided. I 
recall riding south from Mazatlan along the MX200 on a holiday weekend, with no 
shoulder and heavy foliage right at the road's edge. Narrow road, heavy traffic 
and frankly a reckless approach to driving safety put me in a very vulnerable 
position and it was a lot of miles before I was out of danger of being clipped. 
Interestingly though, along that stretch there was only one driver that was 
deliberatly aggressive, everyone else was just carried along in that mad 
traffic stream. 

IanA

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[RBW] FS: Bosco, Albatross, Sackville, Silver/shimano shifters, VP Pedals, Nitto Stems

[Philip Kim]

Sold my Appaloosa to a local lister, but parted out some of it. Maybe it 
could be of use on some of your tandems? Pictures HERE 


 

 

*Shipping is included in the listed price*, and listed price is net to 
myself via paypal friends and family. Almost everything has seen very low 
mileage / great shape, unless stated as new or new-in-box. 

 

 

-650b dynamo front wheel, velocity dyad rim, DT Swiss double butted spokes 
laced to Shutter Precision dyno hub 32h, 10 miles of use - $225

 

 

-Nitto Bosco handlebar, 55cm  heat-treated aluminum - $80

 

-Paul V-Brake Levers - $85

 

-Shimano Ultegra Bar Ends -$45

 

-Paul thumb mounts - $45

 

-Miesha corck grips w/ amber shellac - $18

 

-Nitto Tallux stem 120mm 25.4 clamp - $65

 

*Buy this set up for $320*


 

-Nitto Albatross heat treated aluminum - $70

 

-Nitto Technomic Delux Stem 110mm 25.4 clamp (new) - $68


*Buy this set up for $130*

 

 

-Rivendell Sackville Shopsack Medium Olive, seen use but in great shape - 
$50

 

-Rivendell Sackville Shopsack Medium Tan, seen use but in great shape - $50

 

 

-Microshift 10 speed thumbshifter for index for Shimano 10 speed MTB rear 
derailleur, also has friction option (NIB, right shifter only) - $35

 

-Dura Ace 7700 downtube shifters (NIB) - $50

 

-Rivendell Silver downtube shifters (NIB) - $40

 

-Shimano Ultegra Bar End (NIB) - $55


-Rivendell Leather straps 15 inch  (pair), new, - $ 20

 

 

-VP Pedals VP-001 "thin gripster" pedals grey (NIB) - $50

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Re: [RBW] Hubbah head badge question

[René Sterental]

Mine were already placed, but I picked it up in person.
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 7:38 AM 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Fedex delivered the tandem on Saturday. The head badges came in the box,
> but not attached to the bike. I just wondered if everyone got theirs that
> way. It's not even remotely a big deal, just curious. To show the
> not-at-all-big-dealness of this: Many months ago, maybe even a year or
> more, I noticed the head badge on the AHH was loose. Of course, me being
> me, I did nothing. Since I always have my Berthoud handlebar bag on the
> bike, I never really see the head tube. So while doing maintenance and
> having the bag off, I noticed it was now gone. I emailed Will at Riv back
> in April and asked if I could pick one up when I'm in the bay area (Bay
> Area?) in June. He said that's too long to be without a head badge and
> mailed me one, gratis. They are the best!!!
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[RBW] Re: Rosco v2 upgrades/sidegrades

[Jon BALER]

Looks great!I'm still riding my V2 as my daily commuter, but have done 
some group rides with it too.  Longest ride was a spirited 60 mile pavement 
and gravel ride.  It does ride great, and I have little motivation to 
commute on my touring bike anymore.

Last I checked, this frame was still available to purchase and the original 
prototype complete blue bike with v-brake(cantis?) was available too.

On Saturday, May 13, 2017 at 7:05:29 PM UTC-4, Chris Birkenmaier wrote:
>
> Woody Fenders makes every bike it's on look great. Meant that as a 
> compliment.  Bike was super before them too!

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Re: [RBW] Sugino XD2 Triple with Ultegra 8Spd Bar End Shifter at Max Travel

[Jeremy Till]

John says that the front derailleur can move past the big ring--the issue 
is with the shifter--so I would doubt that having too wide a chainline is 
the cause.  

The three things I would check: like Garth said, it could be an assembly 
issue with the shifter.  Specifically, there is a washer that goes between 
the shifting mechanism and the pod that aligns the shifting mechanism and 
can limit the shifter travel if it is installed in the wrong orientation.  It 
looks like this. 

 
 The square-shaped protrusion should point straight down. This topic has 
been discussed a few times around here so if you do some searching you 
might be able to find more information on it.  

Secondly, you mention that you changed from bigger to smaller chainrings 
over time.  Did you move the front derailleur down the seat tube when you 
did so, to re-adjust it's clearance to the big ring?  The closer to the 
chainrings the derailleur is, the more effective it will be.  The shimano 
spec is that the outer plate of the front derailleur cage should sit about 
3mm above the tops of the teeth of the big ring when in the middle ring.  

Finally, I would check the low limit adjustment.  Is there excessive space 
between the derailleur cage and the chain in the lowest gear (small 
chainring, biggest cog) with no cable tension on the front derailleur? 
 Since the low-limit screw kind of sets the tension zero point for the 
front derailleur, if it is too far out, then by tightening it you might 
gain some shifter movement at the other end of the travel. 

After checking the shifter assembly, derailleur position, and limit screws, 
I would make sure that i take all of the slack out of the cable with the 
shifter and derailleur it their initial positions to assure that no shifter 
movement is wasted in taking up slack.  Barrel adjusters are your friend 
here, if you happen to have them on your downtube cable stops.  

Given the ubiquity of Shimano bar end shifters, sugino xd2 cranks, and all 
flavors of shimano front derailleur in our corner of the bike world, I 
would be surprised if there were some kind of compatibility issue here.

On Saturday, May 13, 2017 at 11:56:27 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I'd measure the distance from the frame to the outer ring. Does the Sugino 
> sit further out from the bb shell than the Ultegra? Or -- not quite the 
> same thing -- does the big ring on the Sugino sit further from the bb than 
> that on the Ultegra? One or the other would be my first guess. If so, then 
> perhaps a bb adjustment? You probably know about that.
>
> IME, some cranks just sit further out from the frame. I recall installing 
> a CF Bontrager Race Lite crank in place of the Sugino XD2, and finding that 
> a fd that worked just fine with the Sugino couldn't get nearly far enough 
> out for the Bontrager (old 7 speed Dura Ace fd).
>
> Aside: bb/crankset/big ring/shifter woes reminds me of how I learned that, 
> no shit! not all cranks take the same bb! I installed a new, purty Grafton 
> on the same 122.5 or whatever the old Shimano Deore required. I got laughed 
> at by the mechanic when I took it into the shop in tears. It didn't help 
> that (IIRC) I was using those end-of-drops, plastic, twist grip shifters 
> with a big neon FRED! logo on them. (And the bike was a '92 XO-1 with 
> purple anodized Sun M14A rims.)
>
> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 11:30 AM, John Hawrylak  > wrote:
>
>> I just installed a Sugino XD2 triple (46-36-324) on my 88 Schwinn 
>> Voyaguer with the original Shimano Deore MT-60 FD and 8 speed Ultegra bar 
>> end shifters (BS-64),   The Sugino replaced the original Biopace triple.
>>
>> Problem:   With the shifter at maximum pull, the FD outer cage justs 
>> clears the chain (less than a fingernail of clearance) in 46T ring and 13T 
>> cog (smallest).   The FD still can move outward, the shifter can not pull 
>> it anymore.  The LBS tried many times to get the outer cage to clear the 
>> chain, so I think this is the best I will get..  
>>
>> Concern:  Minimal Clearance.  Over time, outer cage may contact chain in 
>> big ring - small cog.
>>
>> Background:  I replaced the original DT shifters with the Bar ends in 
>> 2010, but kept the original FD (MT-60) and Biopace Triple (FCB-124).  I had 
>> NO problem with imoving the shifter to trim the FD to eliminate chain noise 
>> in the big ring-small cog.
>>
>> I measured the distance from the SMALL ring to the LARGE ring on the 
>> Sugino XD2 and the FCB-124 Biopace.  The Sugino is 1 mm wider, requiring 
>> more cable pull .  
>> Sugino:  18.5mm,  Biopace  17..5mm
>>
>> The original Deore MT-60 FD has a very flat outer plate which slants 
>> inward.  It seems to provide minimum clearance to 

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Bliss

[Marc Irwin]

I had a Hunqapillar with drop bar, rode it for a year and just had to have 
a lighter faster version with the same geometry.  The Bosco bars were being 
delivered at the same time my HIllborne frame was coming so I had those 
added.  After a year of riding the HIllborne with Bosco bars and the Hunq 
with drop bars, I switched the Hunq to Boscos also.  Now I can hardly look 
at my road bike drop bars.  

On Sunday, May 14, 2017 at 5:01:17 PM UTC-4, Broccoli Cog wrote:
>
> Looking for thoughts from those of you who have switched from drop bars to 
> something more upright such as the Mustache or Albatross.Why did you end up 
> switching and what was the outcome? 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Handlebar Bliss

[Orc]

On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 4:09:14 AM UTC-7, Broccoli Cog wrote:
>
> Thanks for the feedback. I have Noodles on my Sam set slightly above 
> saddle height. I can't say enough about how great these bars are. Perfectly 
> comfortable drop bars in every way. 
>

What's particularly good about them that something like a set of 
Lauterwasser bars wouldn't cover?   If you don't need a pop-up position, 
want the two hand angles you'd get with drops, and don't want the 
longitudinal hand positions to be pulled way back, that /might/ be a good 
way to go.(I've found that the Lauterwasser bars gave me about 80% of 
it;  not having a pop-up position for navigating traffic and not being able 
to get them nearly as low as I like wrote them off, but they're still 
kicking around my bike mess because hope springs eternal.)

-david parsons


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[RBW] Hubbah head badge question

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Fedex delivered the tandem on Saturday. The head badges came in the box, but 
not attached to the bike. I just wondered if everyone got theirs that way. It's 
not even remotely a big deal, just curious. To show the not-at-all-big-dealness 
of this: Many months ago, maybe even a year or more, I noticed the head badge 
on the AHH was loose. Of course, me being me, I did nothing. Since I always 
have my Berthoud handlebar bag on the bike, I never really see the head tube. 
So while doing maintenance and having the bag off, I noticed it was now gone. I 
emailed Will at Riv back in April and asked if I could pick one up when I'm in 
the bay area (Bay Area?) in June. He said that's too long to be without a head 
badge and mailed me one, gratis. They are the best!!! 

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[RBW] Re: Handlebar Bliss

[Deacon Patrick]

I love my New Moustache. Moustache 2.0. Albastache. Call 'um whatcha want, 
they are delightful to ride. Both my steeds sport them, and they are 
equally at home on open road for a long day in the saddle and on technical 
singletrack and a long day out of the saddle (standing on the pedals). They 
have a wondrous subtlety of confident control on the technical single track 
that is delicious. On non-technical terrain (trail, dirt, paved) they 
simply flow, going invisible with the rest of the bike. Took me a while to 
dial them in, preferring a higher, shorter stem (I'm pretty slow and 
dim-witted and methotical about dialing in, so it takes me years rather 
than days. But once I get there I'm there.).

On Sunday, May 14, 2017 at 3:01:17 PM UTC-6, Broccoli Cog wrote:
>
> Looking for thoughts from those of you who have switched from drop bars to 
> something more upright such as the Mustache or Albatross.Why did you end up 
> switching and what was the outcome? 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Leah's Bicycle Bus! (and question)

[Deacon Patrick]

Exactly, Ian. This works, except when it doesn't. Leah lives in a canyon, I 
live in a narrow mountain pass. Geography limits options. I'm blessed to 
have a MUP and good ol' CR21 that parallels the main artery, but it is 
fairly cobbled together with bailing wire and duct tape. And, if I need to 
get to town and back, my options require the use of the highway. Not bad 
heading down, as I can coast at 40mph and have a wider shoulder the whole 
way, but climbing back up has many tight canyon curves with no shoulder, 
making being seen by traffic going 60 (that's supposed to go 45, 25 in the 
curves, yeah, right!) difficult. The way round adds several hundred miles.

However, I think at this group's suggestion, I looked for alternative ways 
to go through Woodland Park, and that has opened up much better biking 
experiences, and far less risk of overloading my brain. 

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 12:09:48 AM UTC-6, Ian A wrote:
>
>  One thing I do now is avoid "conflict zones"  - areas where traffic might 
> be distracted or stressed. A  couple of km detour is worth the effort to 
> avoid the risky bits.
>
>>

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[RBW] Re: rattles n' squeaks

[Ron Mc]

I found a long time ago with Sackville trunk bag zippers, they don't rattle 
if you join them at the side of the bag rather than at the back/front.  
Anywhere you're having a rattle can usually be solved with a piece of 
rubber or leather applied tactically.  
Riding my Lenton this weekend identified one fairly benign squeak that was 
still too much for me.  
(here's my '57 modified and Lou's '60 original - though he swapped for 
wider bars)


  

My front fender was squeaking against the bottom of the front brake.  So I 
mixed a tiny bit of flexible epoxy (rod bond) only on the fender side, and 
stuck a rubber washer in a nice blind spot between the brake and fender. 
 Brake works, fender is dampened from movement.  


On Saturday, May 13, 2017 at 1:58:47 PM UTC-5, Jeff wrote:
>
> I'm looking for suggestions as to how you all have managed to quell:
>
> 1. Rattles from the zipper pulls of your Sackville Shopsacks as they sit 
> in your front basket and they get bounced around as you traverse uneven 
> ground. I resorted to singing out loud (a bit louder than normal) which was 
> good for me but appeared to irk those exposed to the untuned cacophony.
>
> 2. Squeaks from your wald basket zip-tied to your front rack - the metal 
> on metal likes to chirp on occasion and my previously mentioned solution of 
> singing and/or singing louder is not a preferred long-term solution.
>
> I'm considering an inelegant small wrapping of electric tape on the zipper 
> pulls and considering bits of an old tube wrapped around the contact points 
> of the rack.
>
> -Jeff
> Silver Spring, MD
>

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[RBW] Re: Handlebar Bliss

[Broccoli Cog]

Thanks for the feedback. I have Noodles on my Sam set slightly above saddle 
height. I can't say enough about how great these bars are. Perfectly 
comfortable drop bars in every way. So what's the problem right?? I am one 
who always has dealt with some degree of neck pain from keeping my head up 
in a position where I can see the road. Granted the quill stem has really 
helped this situation but I am still finding that I am having pain on rides 
at 2 hours long or longer. I am thinking about the Albastache because I 
won't have to make other cockpit changes with a new stem and brake levers. 
I fear I will be getting into a slippery slope but I would do anything to 
ride longer distances relatively pain free. The next thing I will try is 
raising the bars up even a little more to see if that changes anything. The 
next step may be to try the Albastache bars but I am reluctant to give up 
my Noodles which I love. 

On Sunday, May 14, 2017 at 5:01:17 PM UTC-4, Broccoli Cog wrote:
>
> Looking for thoughts from those of you who have switched from drop bars to 
> something more upright such as the Mustache or Albatross.Why did you end up 
> switching and what was the outcome? 
>
>

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[RBW] FS: Wheelsets and tires, 700c and 26, Dynamo and otherwise

[Eric Douglas]

 

Folks—

 

I have a bunch of wheelsets and that I’d like  put on the block. 

 

I’d be willing to break up a wheelset if just a front or rear is needed.

 

Shipping for wheels  would be via Bike Flights, between $20-40, depending 
on how far from NYC.

 

All rear hubs are 135 spacing.

 

Mounted tires and cassettes are not included.

 

Photos at  https://www.flickr.com/gp/147685640@N03/1gi0d7

It's best to contact me at ekdouglas (at) mindspring (dot) com

More photos or info available upon request.

 

Thanks,

 

Eric Douglas

 

Wheelset 1:  Velocity P35 700c laced with  36 double butted spokes to an 
Alfine dymano front hub and an Shimano SLX rear. Centerlock. New. Asking 
300.

 

Wheelset 2: Velocity Dyad 700c laced with  36 double butted spokes to an 
SON 28  front hub and an Shimano Deore rear hub in black. Neither wheel has 
seen more than 400 dry miles. Asking 375.

 

Wheelset 3: Mavic Open Pro 700c laced with  36 double butted spokes to an 
SON Deux front hub and an Shimano 9 speed XT rear hub. The front wheel had 
seen about 600 dry miles, the rear less than 100. Asking 375.

 

Wheelset 4: Velocity P35 26 laced with  36 double butted spokes to an 
Alfine dymano front hub and an Shimano SLX rear. Centerlock. 30 dry miles. 
Asking 300.

 

Wheelset 5: Velocity Dyad 700c laced with  36 double butted spokes to an 
Shimano DN-72 dynamo hub (centerlock) and an Shimano Deore rear hub in 
black. Front wheel is new, rear has seen a couple of hundred miles. SOLD
  Wheelset 6: A nice slightly mismatched pair. The front is SP Dynamo hub 
laced to a  H + Plus Son TB14  rim with 32 double butted spokes.  About 100 
miles. The rear is a XTR 9 speed hub laced to a Mavic A719 rim. Again, a 
few hundred miles. Asking 320.   Individual wheel #1 130 or 135 (your 
choice) Surly fixed/free hub laced with 32 double butted spokes to a 700c 
Velocity Dyad rim.  New.  Asking 130 Individual wheel #2 135  White Eno 
Eccentic fixed/free hub laced with 32 double butted spokes to a Sun SR-18 
rim.  New.  Asking 160.   Tires: All tires are new unless otherwise listed 
Compass 
Barlow Pass  Tan sidewalls  50 for one new and one with some life left in 
it. Compass Barlow Pass EL Black sidewalls 125 Schwalbe Kojak 700x35  45 
pair Schwalbe Thunderburt  Liteskin 29x2.1  70 pair Bruce Gordon 700x43 
Rock and Road ties. Ridden about 200 miles. Great shape. 60 pair.   Studded 
Tires!!!  Out of season discount. All tires are new. 45nrth Nicotine 
29x2.35 folding studded tires. 120 pair 45nrth Graval 700x38  folding 
studded tires.  252 studs per tire. 100 pair. Schwalbe Ice Spiker 26x2.35 
folding studded tires. 100 pair Schwalbe Marathon Winter 700x50  80 pair Nokian 
Mount and Ground 26x1.9 70 pair 

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Re: [RBW] Leah's Bicycle Bus! (and question)

[Ian A]

Ryan,

My own experience of being hit  was being struck from behind at speed which 
led to thirty facial stitches, but miraculously no broken bones. The face 
healed well and only faint scars remain. This happened in 2010. I resumed 
riding a few weeks after the crash as I had to recover from road rash and 
heavy bruising, but I was tentative. I ride a lot of miles each year, but 
the memory of the crash stays with me. It doesn't spook me or make me ride 
less, it's just there in my subconscious. One thing I do now is avoid 
"conflict zones"  - areas where traffic might be distracted or stressed. A 
 couple of km detour is worth the effort to avoid the risky bits. The mojo 
never goes away.  

IanA.

On Friday, May 12, 2017 at 5:44:17 PM UTC-6, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
> Thanks, Leah
>
> Physically , I am almost back to normal. Not doing long rides yet as there 
> is still some residual stiffness. Mentally I'd say I lost more than  a 
> little of my bike mojo. I am riding to and from work and afraid I haven't 
> yet ridden the 2nd BBITW  (the first being your Betty).  ButI'm working 
> on it. Accident affected me psychologically  more than I'd hoped and I tend 
> to be a rider who is happiest on quieter,  emptier roads at the best of 
> times. 
>
> I won't give up riding though and I'll just focus on what I feel 
> comfortable with for now and work up
>
> I hope this driver has the book thrown at him because it sounds more like 
> malice then stupidity/distraction and I am so  glad you and your sons and 
> the other kids are safe. You are a tiger mother  :)
>
> On Friday, May 12, 2017 at 5:46:53 PM UTC-5, LeahFoy wrote:
>>
>> Ryan, this is AWFUL. I'm not surprised this happened to you in a school 
>> zone - parents are distracted and rushed and just generally at their worst 
>> in school zones. It's a battlefield out there. I think that's why you see 
>> so many So-and-So-Memorial crossings by schools. Blood will run in the 
>> streets eventually as long as we have cars swirling around school zones. A 
>> compressed L1 vertebra is really something; so sorry this happened to you. 
>> Your thoughts on a GoPro are my thoughts, too - I wish I'd had one! I don't 
>> even know how they work or how to use one, but sure seems like it would 
>> have been useful yesterday. 
>>
>> I found one of the kids who was there on that sidewalk after school. The 
>> kid was really hesitant to give me any information (as he well should be) 
>> said he didn't know his mom's cell phone number, has no phone of his own 
>> but was willing to give up "my mom's house phone." Then he promptly told me 
>> he'd be really hard to make contact with. Sigh. I am also 99% sure he has 
>> special needs and am not sure how he will be at recalling and repeating 
>> events. I emailed the number to the officer and while I was at it, asked if 
>> he was ever able to make contact with the driver. Here is his emailed 
>> response: " Yes I was able to track down the driver.  I issued him multiple 
>> citations for the violations.  I spoke to him at length about your concerns 
>> and the safety of the public.  He will have a future court date.  Thanks."
>>
>> I feel happy that the driver has been tracked down and dressed down, but 
>> not happy that he wasn't arrested and his license revoked, though I kept my 
>> opinions to myself. I also wonder what his side of the story is, but I dare 
>> not ask the officer any more questions as I feel I may be dangerously close 
>> to nagging, ha!
>>
>>

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