[RBW] Autumnal Aria Photos and Ride Reports

[WETH]

I love the deep blues and vivid yellows in Aspen Avenue and Aspen Groves.  Well 
done!

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[RBW] Autumnal Aria Photos and Ride Reports

[Kai Vierstra]

Righteous action shots!
Are they video grabs? That one coming down those steep bumps is a beaut. 
And nice foreground btw...
-Kai 
BK NY 

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[RBW] Re: FS - Odds and ends

[Ed Felker]

Bruce, sent you a PM. Thanks Ed

On Saturday, September 23, 2017 at 11:14:18 AM UTC-4, Fullylugged wrote:
>
> Items I've never used, seldom use or don't use anymore. Prices are plus 
> shipping f you aren't local for free pick-up/delv 
>
> Pictures Here:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/9535930@N07/albums/72157685476955302
>
> Cranksets: All have plenty of life left. Drive sides shown, come as a set 
> with the other crankarm too. .
> Ultegra Double, SOLD
> Sugino GX, JIS, 53/40, 170 mm $25.00
> Shimano 600, Getting Stain Glassed as an experiment by a really cool artist
> Campy Victory  53/42 170 mm $35.00
> Shimano A, JIS 42/32/22 175mm $25.00
> Ultegra Triple Octalink 52/42/30 170 mm - $50
> 105 double Sold
> (I have some BBs for all of these so msg if you need one.)
>
> Bags, etc:
>
> Nitto Bag Lifter: $25.00
> Nitto M-15 Front rack $30.00 (not pictured but available)
> Rene Herse (by Boulder) Boxy bag. Shoulder strap and 3 leather straps 
> included. Used once or twice at most. $100
> Stephen Jackson leather bag.  High quality  belting leather. Fits a tube, 
> levers and a tool kit. Blinky slot and holes for laces if used. $50
> Rivendell Sackville Tool Wrap. Small amount of beausage. No rips or tears. 
> Reflective band. $25
> Rivendell Baggins L'il Loafer.  Dirty from use, but no wear or tear on 
> leather or Fabric. $30 
> Carradice Cadet bag.  Used once, I think. $35
> Out Your Back Door bag:  Re-purposed European surplus was my MTB bag, but 
> no more MTB. Comes with shoulder strap. $20
>
> Ask questions. I prefer to use USPS Priority, but buyers choice of method. 
> Paypal or ink on a check if you want to include a note. Lets me use my 
> other hobby: fountain pens.
> email me at fullylugged at yahoo (Sorry GP, no TIG/lug combos for me ;) )
>
> Thanks
> Bruce
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Where's that foot shifting video?

[lum gim fong]

Cool. Thanks!!
Looks dangerous!

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[RBW] Re: Wanted: 650b Rear Wheel, or Advice on Which to Buy

[lum gim fong]

Where are you located Evan?

I have a 650b Velocity hub /Velocity Synergy rims wheelset that came with my 
Sam Hillborne  I would be willing to part with if you can't find anything.

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Re: [RBW] FS - Odds and ends

[Fullylugged]

Carradice is sold.
Thank you

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[RBW] Re: Appaloosa/Albastache Stem Question

[Deacon Patrick]

John, feel free to poke around the posts on my Hunqapillar and Quickbeam. 
My New Moustache (aka Albastache) are on 5cm (QB) and 7cm (Hunq) stems and 
I love them. You can see them in trail riding action here:
http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/autumnal-aria

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, September 23, 2017 at 8:30:26 AM UTC-6, John Casteen wrote:
>
> I bought a used Joe Appaloosa that had been purchased complete and tricked 
> out really beautifully by its first owner-- many thoughtful choices about 
> gear and parts to customize and/or upgrade from the Rivendell build.  Among 
> them is an Albastache bar, which is new to me; it's great.  The bike fits 
> me perfectly except for the fact that the stem, a Nitto 7 cm Chrystem, has 
> too little height to raise the bars where I think they should be, which is 
> maybe an inch above the saddle.  I end up with a bit more weight on my arms 
> and hands than I'd like; the stem, maxed out, sits about an inch below the 
> nose of the saddle.  I think it's going to take a different stem to jack up 
> the bars, but before diving into that, two questions: first, does anyone 
> have advice about stem lengths that generally work for these bars, and 
> second, am I seeing this right?  Do other Albastache riders generally run 
> the stem height just at or above seat height, where I'm sort of aiming to 
> put it?
>
> Thanks in advance for any wisdom you can pass along--
>
> John
>

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[RBW] Appaloosa/Albastache Stem Question

[Garth]

Use this tool to compare stems 

http://yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/stem.php

The dirt drop stem comes in 80 and 100 extention forward, but the 80 has 90mm 
quill height above line, and the 100 has 155mm of quill maximun. I don't know 
what a Chtystem is in  dimensions, but you must, so compare the 2. You will 
find either dd stem will have less reach, becsuse they are at a +35 angle and 
not -17, assuming that is what your stem is. So the dd stem jacks up a lot more 
than forward. The graphic tool is very helpful for visualizing. 

As far as how high, that is all up to you, positioning rules are for fools !

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[RBW] Appaloosa/Albastache Stem Question

[Surlyprof]

I love the albastache bar and found that either the dirt drop or the technomic 
would get it up above the saddle by 1.5"-2" without difficulty (on a 
canti-Hillborne).  I went with an 8cm technomic only because I personally liked 
the more classic road bike style.  

https://www.flickr.com/photos/129545862@N03/29960621712/in/dateposted-public/

John

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[RBW] Re: FS-Joe Appaloosa

[Rusty Click]

That is a great looking bike and very tempting.  Being 6'1" and 91.5 pbh, 
it may just be a great fit.  I've gotta think about it a bit more...hmmm.

I'll PM you if I fall off the fence.

On Sunday, February 26, 2017 at 10:16:53 PM UTC-5, Gossamer wrote:
>
> As close to new 58 Appaloosa in blue.
>
> Buil kit from Riv that included Nitto Choco Moose bars and added a read 
> Pletscher Rack with pannier rails, front Mark's rack and Sackville small 
> trunk (gray), kickstand. Currently has a Soma drop bar on it with Dura Ace 
> shifters. Already newbaumed chain stay, both sets of bars and put on a 
> great bell.
>
> Bike has fewer than 100 miles on it. It's closer to new than a demo could 
> be...it's sadly too big despite following the fit guide.
>
> I'd be happy to discuss further if someone would like. I'd like to get 
> $2100 for it since I have more than $2600 into it. It will be 
> professionally shipped and you'll get both bars and all mentioned above. 
> Only thing I would keep are the saddle and the pedals.
>
>
>

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[RBW] Autumnal Aria Photos and Ride Reports

[Deacon Patrick]

Epic music of the ‘eelands sounds off in sun and rain. Enjoy!
http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/autumnal-aria

With abandon,
Patrick

www.CredoFamily.org
www.MindYourHeadCoop.org


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[RBW] Appaloosa/Albastache Stem Question

[Joe Bernard]

If the frame fits you well then 7cm should be the right stem for drops or 
Albastache. Yes, you want them a good bit higher than saddle because the curves 
really get you out there over the front wheel. The distance is similar to 
riding the hoods on a dropbar, but you have to create the height of hoods with 
a tall stem. 

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[RBW] Re: Wanted: 650b Rear Wheel, or Advice on Which to Buy

[Evan E.]

Thanks, everyone, for your input! I just sent a private message to Scott C. 
about his wheel (I weigh 150 pounds if that, so 28 spokes sounds fine).  

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[RBW] Re: Appaloosa/Albastache Stem Question

[WETH]

Another option: I used a dirt drop stem and flipped the Albastache bars "upside 
down" to get the height above my saddle.  Photo: https://flic.kr/p/XrqQ35
All the best in your experimentation,
Erl

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[RBW] Re: Where's that foot shifting video?

[Jeremy Till]

It was Will, and it's on Riv's instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BFXBnqdrxBZ/

On Friday, September 22, 2017 at 2:38:13 PM UTC-7, lum gim fong wrote:
>
> Of Jenny shifting the chain onto different chainrings while riding with 
> her foot? I can't find it. I know I saw it somewhere. I think it was Jenny.
>

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Re: [RBW] FS - Odds and ends

[Fullylugged]

The Lil Loafer and Rene Herse bags are both sold and will ship today.
The Carradice is pending payment.

Thanks for the interest to all.

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[RBW] Pre-Solstice Ride: Roadside Fauna

[Ian A]

Wonderful photos, but where is the fauna? 

IanA

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Re: [RBW] FS - Odds and ends

[Fullylugged]

The Li'l Loafer is spoken for, The Cadet is pending payment, and the Rene Herse 
bag is under serious consideration.

Thanks all

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[RBW] Re: FS - Odds and ends

[MartyG]

PM sent for the Cadet. 

On Saturday, September 23, 2017 at 11:14:18 AM UTC-4, Fullylugged wrote:
>
> Items I've never used, seldom use or don't use anymore. Prices are plus 
> shipping f you aren't local for free pick-up/delv 
>
> Pictures Here:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/9535930@N07/albums/72157685476955302
>
> Cranksets: All have plenty of life left. Drive sides shown, come as a set 
> with the other crankarm too. .
> Ultegra Double, SOLD
> Sugino GX, JIS, 53/40, 170 mm $25.00
> Shimano 600, Getting Stain Glassed as an experiment by a really cool artist
> Campy Victory  53/42 170 mm $35.00
> Shimano A, JIS 42/32/22 175mm $25.00
> Ultegra Triple Octalink 52/42/30 170 mm - $50
> 105 double Sold
> (I have some BBs for all of these so msg if you need one.)
>
> Bags, etc:
>
> Nitto Bag Lifter: $25.00
> Nitto M-15 Front rack $30.00 (not pictured but available)
> Rene Herse (by Boulder) Boxy bag. Shoulder strap and 3 leather straps 
> included. Used once or twice at most. $100
> Stephen Jackson leather bag.  High quality  belting leather. Fits a tube, 
> levers and a tool kit. Blinky slot and holes for laces if used. $50
> Rivendell Sackville Tool Wrap. Small amount of beausage. No rips or tears. 
> Reflective band. $25
> Rivendell Baggins L'il Loafer.  Dirty from use, but no wear or tear on 
> leather or Fabric. $30 
> Carradice Cadet bag.  Used once, I think. $35
> Out Your Back Door bag:  Re-purposed European surplus was my MTB bag, but 
> no more MTB. Comes with shoulder strap. $20
>
> Ask questions. I prefer to use USPS Priority, but buyers choice of method. 
> Paypal or ink on a check if you want to include a note. Lets me use my 
> other hobby: fountain pens.
> email me at fullylugged at yahoo (Sorry GP, no TIG/lug combos for me ;) )
>
> Thanks
> Bruce
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Wanted: 650b Rear Wheel, or Advice on Which to Buy

[Scott Calhoun]

I checked my parts catacombs, and found a brand new 650b rear, 130mm 
spacing, 28 hole Velocity Synergy O.C. rim with eyelets, (silver, made in 
Aussieland), Tiagra hub, DT straight gauge spokes, perfectly true and 
round. No skewer, $75 bucks plus actual shipping. It is not a hand built 
wheel, but I did touch it up and it looks good and strong. For the record, 
I have another set of 650b velocity 28 holes that I've put through the 
ringer and they've held up like champs. I'm 175lbs mas o menos, mas during 
oktoberfest. 

Scott Calhoun
Tucson, AZ


On Saturday, September 23, 2017 at 12:17:02 AM UTC-7, Evan E. wrote:
>
> Do you have a silver, 32-spoke, 130-spaced 650b rear wheel sitting around 
> forlorn? If so, I'd
> like to buy it or at least take a look (in person or in pictures) for my 
> new-to-me Rambouillet. If not, I have a dilemma I'm sure you-all can help 
> me with:
>
> 1. Invest in a proper rear wheel, built by Rich Lesnick.
> ~ or ~
> 2. Check my LBS to see what they have.
> ~ or ~
> 3. Buy these BIKE 650B WHEELSET RIM BRAKE 27.5 SLVR 130 MM HUB 8/10 SPD 
> WEI ZAC19 36 H wheels from UglyRM on eBay.
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/BIKE-650B-WHEELSET-RIM-BRAKE-27-5-SLVR-130-MM-HUB-8-10-SPD-WEI-ZAC19-36-H-/252604585112?hash=item3ad0681498:g:9f8AAOSw8RJXCUGl
>
> Yes, door #3 is the cheap path. The spokes are 36, and straight gauge (I 
> think?), and may not be tensioned properly. The Zac19 rims may be a pain to 
> mount tires on. The hubs might be mediocre. But that price though.
>
> Please talk some sense into me. Budget wheels aren't, right?
>
> Thanks, 
> Evan E.
> San Francisco, CA
>
>
>
>

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RE: [RBW] FS - Odds and ends

[Bruce Herbitter]

Sure. USPS flat rate for a medium box (don’t think it will squeeze into a 
small) is $13.60.

If you will Paypal me $43.60 to this email. (please make sure that any fees are 
not by me) I will send it to you.
Need your address of course.

Thanks so much.

Bruce

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Steven Sweedler
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 10:23 AM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] FS - Odds and ends

Bruce, would like the little loafer. Thanks, Steve

On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 8:14 AM Fullylugged  wrote:
Items I've never used, seldom use or don't use anymore. Prices are plus 
shipping f you aren't local for free pick-up/delv

Pictures Here:https://www.flickr.com/photos/9535930@N07/albums/72157685476955302

Cranksets: All have plenty of life left. Drive sides shown, come as a set with 
the other crankarm too. .
Ultegra Double, SOLD
Sugino GX, JIS, 53/40, 170 mm $25.00
Shimano 600, Getting Stain Glassed as an experiment by a really cool artist
Campy Victory  53/42 170 mm $35.00
Shimano A, JIS 42/32/22 175mm $25.00
Ultegra Triple Octalink 52/42/30 170 mm - $50
105 double Sold
(I have some BBs for all of these so msg if you need one.)

Bags, etc:

Nitto Bag Lifter: $25.00
Nitto M-15 Front rack $30.00 (not pictured but available)
Rene Herse (by Boulder) Boxy bag. Shoulder strap and 3 leather straps included. 
Used once or twice at most. $100
Stephen Jackson leather bag.  High quality  belting leather. Fits a tube, 
levers and a tool kit. Blinky slot and holes for laces if used. $50
Rivendell Sackville Tool Wrap. Small amount of beausage. No rips or tears. 
Reflective band. $25
Rivendell Baggins L'il Loafer.  Dirty from use, but no wear or tear on leather 
or Fabric. $30
Carradice Cadet bag.  Used once, I think. $35
Out Your Back Door bag:  Re-purposed European surplus was my MTB bag, but no 
more MTB. Comes with shoulder strap. $20

Ask questions. I prefer to use USPS Priority, but buyers choice of method. 
Paypal or ink on a check if you want to include a note. Lets me use my other 
hobby: fountain pens.
email me at fullylugged at yahoo (Sorry GP, no TIG/lug combos for me ;) )

Thanks
Bruce

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Re: [RBW] FS - Odds and ends

[Steven Sweedler]

Bruce, would like the little loafer. Thanks, Steve

On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 8:14 AM Fullylugged 
wrote:

> Items I've never used, seldom use or don't use anymore. Prices are plus
> shipping f you aren't local for free pick-up/delv
>
> Pictures Here:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/9535930@N07/albums/72157685476955302
>
> Cranksets: All have plenty of life left. Drive sides shown, come as a set
> with the other crankarm too. .
> Ultegra Double, SOLD
> Sugino GX, JIS, 53/40, 170 mm $25.00
> Shimano 600, Getting Stain Glassed as an experiment by a really cool artist
> Campy Victory  53/42 170 mm $35.00
> Shimano A, JIS 42/32/22 175mm $25.00
> Ultegra Triple Octalink 52/42/30 170 mm - $50
> 105 double Sold
> (I have some BBs for all of these so msg if you need one.)
>
> Bags, etc:
>
> Nitto Bag Lifter: $25.00
> Nitto M-15 Front rack $30.00 (not pictured but available)
> Rene Herse (by Boulder) Boxy bag. Shoulder strap and 3 leather straps
> included. Used once or twice at most. $100
> Stephen Jackson leather bag.  High quality  belting leather. Fits a tube,
> levers and a tool kit. Blinky slot and holes for laces if used. $50
> Rivendell Sackville Tool Wrap. Small amount of beausage. No rips or tears.
> Reflective band. $25
> Rivendell Baggins L'il Loafer.  Dirty from use, but no wear or tear on
> leather or Fabric. $30
> Carradice Cadet bag.  Used once, I think. $35
> Out Your Back Door bag:  Re-purposed European surplus was my MTB bag, but
> no more MTB. Comes with shoulder strap. $20
>
> Ask questions. I prefer to use USPS Priority, but buyers choice of method.
> Paypal or ink on a check if you want to include a note. Lets me use my
> other hobby: fountain pens.
> email me at fullylugged at yahoo (Sorry GP, no TIG/lug combos for me ;) )
>
> Thanks
> Bruce
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[RBW] Re: Appaloosa/Albastache Stem Question

[Jeremy Tavan]

When I put my commuter bike together with an albastache bar, I found when I 
used it as intended, with road brake levers mounted on the curves, that I 
had to have the bars quite high relative to the seat or else I'd feel like 
I was going to take a nose dive over the bars while braking. I ended up not 
liking the normal hooded drop bar brake setup, and I am using reverse brake 
levers with the bars mounted around saddle height. The curves are a little 
above saddle height, the grips slightly below - a little tilt makes 
everything feel better. To get the bars up this high I'm using a technomic 
stem. As far as length is concerned, really it's just a matter of what's 
comfortable for your torso and arm length. Because I spend most of my time 
holding the grips at the ends of the bar and because I have a very long 
torso and fairly long arms, I use a very long (120mm?) stem. The end result 
is extremely comfortable, though not very rigid. Hit a bad bump and the 
whole assembly wobbles until I can get it back under control, but part of 
that is the flexible vintage steel frame as well. 

Photo of the setup:
http://cl.ly/053y3W2c3T1r

/Jeremy

On Saturday, September 23, 2017 at 7:30:26 AM UTC-7, John Casteen wrote:
>
> I bought a used Joe Appaloosa that had been purchased complete and tricked 
> out really beautifully by its first owner-- many thoughtful choices about 
> gear and parts to customize and/or upgrade from the Rivendell build.  Among 
> them is an Albastache bar, which is new to me; it's great.  The bike fits 
> me perfectly except for the fact that the stem, a Nitto 7 cm Chrystem, has 
> too little height to raise the bars where I think they should be, which is 
> maybe an inch above the saddle.  I end up with a bit more weight on my arms 
> and hands than I'd like; the stem, maxed out, sits about an inch below the 
> nose of the saddle.  I think it's going to take a different stem to jack up 
> the bars, but before diving into that, two questions: first, does anyone 
> have advice about stem lengths that generally work for these bars, and 
> second, am I seeing this right?  Do other Albastache riders generally run 
> the stem height just at or above seat height, where I'm sort of aiming to 
> put it?
>
> Thanks in advance for any wisdom you can pass along--
>
> John
>

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[RBW] Appaloosa/Albastache Stem Question

[Jay Connolly]

I tried a moustache bar on my Joe and liked it. I replaced it because it was 
only about 50cm wide, and I wanted more width. Everything else I liked about 
the bar. I ran it so the hoods were about an inch above the saddle and the 
bar-ends were about an inch below. The Albastache has more width and less drop 
(and the most attractive curve, in my view), and if you run the highest point 
of the bar an inch above, you’ll be about level any the shifters. If that 
doesn’t work, go up another inch. If the Tallux or Technomic stems don’t give 
you enough rise, a dirt stem might solve the issue.

Jay

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[RBW] Re: FS: Compass Rat Trap Pass 26" x 2.3"

[Kellie]

Oh, that's too bad. I LOVE mine and I'm wondering what you didn't like 
about them? I have the lighter casing and have set them up tubeless; dirt, 
street-they perform well. I had ThunderBurts before (which I also liked) 
but I "feel faster" on the RTP.

On Friday, September 22, 2017 at 8:29:29 AM UTC-7, Gabriel Bruguier wrote:
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> Up for sale is a set of Compass Rat Trap Pass tires with the standard 
> casing.  
>
> I bought them in mid-August and rode them for a little over a week on my 
> daily commute in Lincoln, NE, so they have around 30-40 easy miles on them.
>
> Reason for selling: I didn't like them as much as I thought I would.
>
> Asking $100 & buyer pays actual shipping cost via Paypal.
>
>  
>

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[RBW] FS - Odds and ends

[Fullylugged]

Items I've never used, seldom use or don't use anymore. Prices are plus 
shipping f you aren't local for free pick-up/delv 

Pictures Here:https://www.flickr.com/photos/9535930@N07/albums/72157685476955302

Cranksets: All have plenty of life left. Drive sides shown, come as a set with 
the other crankarm too. .
Ultegra Double, SOLD
Sugino GX, JIS, 53/40, 170 mm $25.00
Shimano 600, Getting Stain Glassed as an experiment by a really cool artist
Campy Victory  53/42 170 mm $35.00
Shimano A, JIS 42/32/22 175mm $25.00
Ultegra Triple Octalink 52/42/30 170 mm - $50
105 double Sold
(I have some BBs for all of these so msg if you need one.)

Bags, etc:

Nitto Bag Lifter: $25.00
Nitto M-15 Front rack $30.00 (not pictured but available)
Rene Herse (by Boulder) Boxy bag. Shoulder strap and 3 leather straps included. 
Used once or twice at most. $100
Stephen Jackson leather bag.  High quality  belting leather. Fits a tube, 
levers and a tool kit. Blinky slot and holes for laces if used. $50
Rivendell Sackville Tool Wrap. Small amount of beausage. No rips or tears. 
Reflective band. $25
Rivendell Baggins L'il Loafer.  Dirty from use, but no wear or tear on leather 
or Fabric. $30 
Carradice Cadet bag.  Used once, I think. $35
Out Your Back Door bag:  Re-purposed European surplus was my MTB bag, but no 
more MTB. Comes with shoulder strap. $20

Ask questions. I prefer to use USPS Priority, but buyers choice of method. 
Paypal or ink on a check if you want to include a note. Lets me use my other 
hobby: fountain pens.
email me at fullylugged at yahoo (Sorry GP, no TIG/lug combos for me ;) )

Thanks
Bruce

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[RBW] Re: FS: Compass Rat Trap Pass 26" x 2.3"

[Kellie]

On Friday, September 22, 2017 at 8:29:29 AM UTC-7, Gabriel Bruguier wrote:
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> Up for sale is a set of Compass Rat Trap Pass tires with the standard 
> casing.  
>
> I bought them in mid-August and rode them for a little over a week on my 
> daily commute in Lincoln, NE, so they have around 30-40 easy miles on them.
>
> Reason for selling: I didn't like them as much as I thought I would.
>
> Asking $100 & buyer pays actual shipping cost via Paypal.
>
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: Wanted: 650b Rear Wheel, or Advice on Which to Buy

[lum gim fong]

Grand Bois 650b 36 spoke black label rims practically auto-seat Compass 38 
and 42mm wide tires upon inflation.
I highly recommend them. No muss, no fuss.

Congrats on your choice to 650b convert your Rambouillet.

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[RBW] Re: All Downhill From Here: Early Aspen Photos of Descent

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Great photos! Looks really enticing -- At least the descending part!

David Lipsky 


On Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 5:15:23 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Enjoy!
> http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/all-downhill-from-here
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> www.CredoFamily.org
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
>
>
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[RBW] Appaloosa/Albastache Stem Question

[John Casteen]

I bought a used Joe Appaloosa that had been purchased complete and tricked 
out really beautifully by its first owner-- many thoughtful choices about 
gear and parts to customize and/or upgrade from the Rivendell build.  Among 
them is an Albastache bar, which is new to me; it's great.  The bike fits 
me perfectly except for the fact that the stem, a Nitto 7 cm Chrystem, has 
too little height to raise the bars where I think they should be, which is 
maybe an inch above the saddle.  I end up with a bit more weight on my arms 
and hands than I'd like; the stem, maxed out, sits about an inch below the 
nose of the saddle.  I think it's going to take a different stem to jack up 
the bars, but before diving into that, two questions: first, does anyone 
have advice about stem lengths that generally work for these bars, and 
second, am I seeing this right?  Do other Albastache riders generally run 
the stem height just at or above seat height, where I'm sort of aiming to 
put it?

Thanks in advance for any wisdom you can pass along--

John

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[RBW] Re: Wanted: 650b Rear Wheel, or Advice on Which to Buy

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

With wheels, my philosophy is buy once, cry once.   When I was in your 
situation I contacted Rich Lesnik and five years later, I know that was the 
right choice for me.  



On Saturday, September 23, 2017 at 2:17:02 AM UTC-5, Evan E. wrote:
>
> Do you have a silver, 32-spoke, 130-spaced 650b rear wheel sitting around 
> forlorn? If so, I'd
> like to buy it or at least take a look (in person or in pictures) for my 
> new-to-me Rambouillet. If not, I have a dilemma I'm sure you-all can help 
> me with:
>
> 1. Invest in a proper rear wheel, built by Rich Lesnick.
> ~ or ~
> 2. Check my LBS to see what they have.
> ~ or ~
> 3. Buy these BIKE 650B WHEELSET RIM BRAKE 27.5 SLVR 130 MM HUB 8/10 SPD 
> WEI ZAC19 36 H wheels from UglyRM on eBay.
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/BIKE-650B-WHEELSET-RIM-BRAKE-27-5-SLVR-130-MM-HUB-8-10-SPD-WEI-ZAC19-36-H-/252604585112?hash=item3ad0681498:g:9f8AAOSw8RJXCUGl
>
> Yes, door #3 is the cheap path. The spokes are 36, and straight gauge (I 
> think?), and may not be tensioned properly. The Zac19 rims may be a pain to 
> mount tires on. The hubs might be mediocre. But that price though.
>
> Please talk some sense into me. Budget wheels aren't, right?
>
> Thanks, 
> Evan E.
> San Francisco, CA
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Wanted: 650b Rear Wheel, or Advice on Which to Buy

[panog]

You seem to have a very good grasp on what could possibly go wrong with the 
eBay wheels which, as you said, are the "budget price" wheels. If you know how 
to stress relief and equalize tensions you may be able to get them reliably 
true. 
The Zac 19 rims are based on the Rigida Sphinx extrusion. As a matter of fact 
both Weizmann and Rigida are owned by the same company now so the Zac 19 is a 
rebadged Sphinx. Hubs wise you got what you got and thats a very inexpensive 
hub. Nothing to be done about it.
As far as fitting tires on these rims, it depends on the tire. Deep well rims 
do have problems locking the tire beads. You may need to build the well up. See 
how JH is doing it : 
https://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/05/24/mounting-tires-on-rims-with-deep-wells/

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[RBW] Re: Wanted: 650b Rear Wheel, or Advice on Which to Buy

[Orc]

On Saturday, September 23, 2017 at 12:17:02 AM UTC-7, Evan E. wrote:
>
> 3. Buy these BIKE 650B WHEELSET RIM BRAKE 27.5 SLVR 130 MM HUB 8/10 SPD 
> WEI ZAC19 36 H wheels from UglyRM on eBay.
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/BIKE-650B-WHEELSET-RIM-BRAKE-27-5-SLVR-130-MM-HUB-8-10-SPD-WEI-ZAC19-36-H-/252604585112?hash=item3ad0681498:g:9f8AAOSw8RJXCUGl
>
> Please talk some sense into me. Budget wheels aren't, right?
>

Those wheels are fine.   The only problem with them is that the rim well is 
pretty deep and you might to put a double layer of cloth tape into them to 
keep part of the tire bead from submerging (one of my machines has a set of 
handbuilt wheels with zac19s and tubeless tape, and Pari-Motos & G-Ones 
need to be seated with soap or talc so the sidewalls can slide up and get 
the beads into seating position.)   If you NEVER EVER want to fuss with 
tires they might not be the wheels for you, but if the fuss isn't a fuss 
$118 shipped is almost line noise.


-david parsons

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[RBW] Wanted: 650b Rear Wheel, or Advice on Which to Buy

[Evan E.]

Do you have a silver, 32-spoke, 130-spaced 650b rear wheel sitting around 
forlorn? If so, I'd
like to buy it or at least take a look (in person or in pictures) for my 
new-to-me Rambouillet. If not, I have a dilemma I'm sure you-all can help 
me with:

1. Invest in a proper rear wheel, built by Rich Lesnick.
~ or ~
2. Check my LBS to see what they have.
~ or ~
3. Buy these BIKE 650B WHEELSET RIM BRAKE 27.5 SLVR 130 MM HUB 8/10 SPD WEI 
ZAC19 36 H wheels from UglyRM on eBay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BIKE-650B-WHEELSET-RIM-BRAKE-27-5-SLVR-130-MM-HUB-8-10-SPD-WEI-ZAC19-36-H-/252604585112?hash=item3ad0681498:g:9f8AAOSw8RJXCUGl

Yes, door #3 is the cheap path. The spokes are 36, and straight gauge (I 
think?), and may not be tensioned properly. The Zac19 rims may be a pain to 
mount tires on. The hubs might be mediocre. But that price though.

Please talk some sense into me. Budget wheels aren't, right?

Thanks, 
Evan E.
San Francisco, CA



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