[RBW] Re: 650B wheels?

2019-04-10 Thread Ash
Velocity Atlas was the recommendation from Rivendell's Rich when I mentioned similar usage needs. I had them on my 51cm Appaloosa. On my new 46cm Appaloosa I have Cliffhangers because I wanted to go for wider tires like Compass RTP and run them tubeless. I use this bike on gravel trails and

Re: [RBW] Gus Boots Willsen Beorn New Bike Day!

2019-04-10 Thread Ed Fausto
Very nice story Deacon on your GBW bike ride! I see you have 1x gearing, what is the specs of your rear cassette? > On 11 Apr 2019, at 5:37 AM, 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch > wrote: > > In which I ride freewheel for the first time in eighteen months, put in forty > miles in the first

[RBW] Re: Gus Boots Willsen Beorn New Bike Day!

2019-04-10 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Thanks, all! Ed, I'm unsure the exact specs. Very low and plenty high enough. If the gear calculations I ran at some point are close, low is 18", high is mid-70". Aye, Tom. We puzzled reconciling the bright spring sage with Beorn, and realized how easy it is to do given his proclivity for

[RBW] 650B wheels?

2019-04-10 Thread Joe Bernard
As James at Analog already mentioned White Industries hubs and Sapim spokes, here's the Atlantis I just bought from him. WI rear, Schmidt Dyno front, 650B x 43 tubeless tires on Cliffhanger rims. Those babies will take you anywhere you want to go.

[RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

2019-04-10 Thread Ash
When I assembled my first Riv 2 years ago, I bought Microshift 9 speed shifters from HQ along with the frame and other parts. Mounted them on the inside of handlebar, so rear was friction and front was indexed. This shifter had no option to switch between. Ran this setup for a year with no

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

2019-04-10 Thread Steve Palincsar
Have you tried adjusting cable tension? Usually, reluctance to shift to higher gears indicates excessive cable tension.  If that was the case, you'd expect pretty snappy downshifting.  On the other hand, "semi-responsive" to downshift, "reluctant" to upshift sounds like the whole thing is

[RBW] Gus Boots Willsen Beorn New Bike Day!

2019-04-10 Thread in Dallas nick
Congratulations  Patrick! What a great  rig! It's even more special your wife gifted it to you. Very special indeed! I hope you have many great adventures on it. As usual  some excellent and fun pics. I particularly like the one of you going through the rocky section.

Re: [RBW] Re: 650B wheels?

2019-04-10 Thread John McBurney
I think that the rim is the issue. Then disc or rim. I had a set of 700 c disc wheels Built up with Velocity NoBS 32 spoke rims. No pretty but very strong and cost effective. Atlas without eyelets and polishing. I spec’d Sapim Strong spokes. Sapim uses the same steel for Strong which is as I

[RBW] Re: 650B wheels?

2019-04-10 Thread Carla Waugh
It’s a nine speed I have Compass 42 Rim brake No heavy touring -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: 650B wheels?

2019-04-10 Thread Steve Palincsar
That was the other one, with the name I couldn't remember earlier when I suggested the Pacenti Brevet. If you want a non-classical appearance, the HED Belgium is a good candidate. On 4/10/19 7:26 PM, John McBurney wrote: Although really expensive, HED Belgium might be an option for an

[RBW] 650B wheels?

2019-04-10 Thread Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY
This may sound ridiculous to some, but if I were putting together a new wheelset right now, I'd get whatever brake tracked rims were great (Pacenti, Velocity,etc...) and some disc brake ready hubs (white industries?). I'd then go to work on those rims with a couple of winter's of salty slime

[RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

2019-04-10 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
My demo Gus Boots came with XT 1x11 indexing. I am impressed so far with how it shifts except for a few things: 1. though it shifts semi-responsively to lower gears, shifting to higher gears is reluctant; 2. it requires coaxing to get into the highest gear. I’m unsure how to solve that. With

[RBW] Re: Wheel question

2019-04-10 Thread Mike Godwin
I just laced up a set of Pacenti Brevet rims on 6800 hubs. Rims are nice. Absolutely no problem with mounting Pari Moto tires. Just a short time ago, the same question about 650b rims came up, someone posted here or ibob list indicating the VO 650b rims were a PIA for tire mounting. Perhaps the

[RBW] Re: Gus Boots Willsen Beorn New Bike Day!

2019-04-10 Thread tc
Patrick, So glad that Beorn finally ambled up your way - congrats! No doubt his wide and mighty paws kept you safe and stable. There's got to be a proper brown repaint coming

Re: [RBW] Quick cockpit swap (say that 10x fast)

2019-04-10 Thread Andrew Letton
I have multiple cockpits for both my Bombadil and my All-Rounder. As they both have canti brakes, I use the BG couplers only for the shift cables. As someone else mentioned, I release the brake cables from the straddle cable. Releasing the couplers, disconnecting the straddle cables, removing

[RBW] Re: 650B wheels?

2019-04-10 Thread Ash
This's a fantastic idea. I'm going to keep it in mind when I get new wheels next. On Wednesday, 10 April 2019 19:01:59 UTC-7, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote: > > This may sound ridiculous to some, but if I were putting together a new > wheelset right now, I'd get whatever brake tracked rims

[RBW] Gus Boots Willsen Beorn New Bike Day!

2019-04-10 Thread J Imler
Looks like great fun. Enjoy your bike, Deacon Patrick! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

2019-04-10 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Indexing and STI require less thought from our minds and bodies, bringing us closer to the technological ideal of mind-lessness and thought-lessness that we seem to be striving for. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: FT: My 54.5cm MIT AHH for your 54cm AHH or Saluki

2019-04-10 Thread Chad
Phil, I also have an 80PBH and set my saddle at 68.5-70 depending on the pedals, shoes, saddle, etc. I’m curious, did RBW steer you towards the 54.5? A 54.5 with the upsloping top top tube seems awful big for a 80 PBH. I had a 51 Sam Hillborne that was almost the same in every dimension to

Re: [RBW] Tolkien themed MIT Atlantis

2019-04-10 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Now that's texting. While taping? Black and White and read all over. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Gus Boots Willsen Beorn New Bike Day!

2019-04-10 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
In which I ride freewheel for the first time in eighteen months, put in forty miles in the first two days, watch in amazement as spring turns to winter in a mountain glen with the sun shining and fat fluffy snow flakes and early spring butterflies ride the same gusting winds, and I discover

[RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

2019-04-10 Thread ascpgh
At a race my company promoted and operated BITD, a young rider hot out of triathlons in Texas named Lance was riding a mash-up of bar end shifter for the front derailleur and an STI lever for the rear. He preferred the infinite trim available to the friction bar end that the STI couldn't

[RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddles

2019-04-10 Thread Collin A
Doing a little digging (because I am looking to replace my brooks that has eaten 3 pants now), it looks like the Aubisque saddle is the replacement to the mente and brings the model more in-line with their other models. Still just as wide it seems.

[RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

2019-04-10 Thread ascpgh
Prior to a group ride last night I spoke with a an early arriving rider who not only made me feel alien for a steel frame but was amazed at the danger I courted for not having brifters. He felt bar end shifters were more dangerous than DT levers. I did not tell him they were friction. He

[RBW] 650B wheels?

2019-04-10 Thread Carla Waugh
I can’t decide about wheels and might rather do a set for my 650B bike. I would be using it for light gravel, dirt and road. If you have suggestions on hubs and rims please let me know. My shop would be building them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] 650B wheels?

2019-04-10 Thread Steve Palincsar
The Pacenti Brevet seems to be the top classic looking rim brake 650B rim right now. On 4/10/19 5:51 PM, Carla Waugh wrote: I can’t decide about wheels and might rather do a set for my 650B bike. I would be using it for light gravel, dirt and road. If you have suggestions on hubs and rims

[RBW] Re: 650B wheels?

2019-04-10 Thread Collin A
Carla, a few questions for ya: 1. Hub spacing? 2. Desired tire size? 3. Drivetrain speed? 4. Rim or disc? 5. Will it be fully loaded, i.e. bikepacking/touring? There are quite a few initial decisions to be made before one can recommend a particular hub or rim. Try to stick

[RBW] Re: 650B wheels?

2019-04-10 Thread 'islaysteve' via RBW Owners Bunch
As an (admittedly heavier) alternative to the Pacenti rims, Velo Orange has their Diagaonale rims on sale for about $45. These are nice looking rims, I have them on my Bleriot and they have been fine on the road and the somewhat rough C canal towpath. Cheers, Steve On Wednesday, April 10,

[RBW] Quick cockpit swap (say that 10x fast)

2019-04-10 Thread esoterica etc
Howdy all, I’m looking into possible ways on how to construct a “quick release” method for easy swapping of cockpits. My Atlantis currently has Choco bars on it which I really like and are great for country rambles, but there are often times I wish for a different setup, such as drop bars or

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

2019-04-10 Thread John McBurney
I think both have their place. The analogy I used is digital versus analogue audio. I love my turn table and records but by golly I love the precision and convenience of my digital setup too. I originally got into friction way back in the 60s then rediscovered it more recently when I got fed up

[RBW] Re: Quick cockpit swap (say that 10x fast)

2019-04-10 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Hi Mark, I and others have done quick-change cockpits. On my Hunqapillar, it was easy to unclip the canti-straddle cable. Set the brake cable lengths on multiple cockpits to-be at the same straddle heights, and there's little adjustment necessary. Easiest would be to set up down-tube

[RBW] Quick cockpit swap (say that 10x fast)

2019-04-10 Thread Joe Bernard
My experience isn't quite what you're trying to do, but it still ended with two bikes. I put Ritchey quick-connects on a full size bike so I could remove the bars easily to put everything in a small car. But the reality was untwisting all those connectors was time-consuming; I never did it; I

[RBW] Touring site, possibly of interest to listers

2019-04-10 Thread Patrick Moore
Perhaps many of you already know this site, but I just stumbled across it the other day. I'm no tourist, but the author discusses many subjects of interest to me and perhaps to other listers. He has a section on lighting as well as one on hub and pinion gears which I found interesting. I am

[RBW] Re: Quick cockpit swap (say that 10x fast)

2019-04-10 Thread Ash
I frequently switch among 3-4 kinds of alt-bars I have. Sometimes I swap the stem as well. It takes me 5 mins give or take to swap the handlebar. If I have to switch the stem as well, add another 2 mins. I have Ergon grips, which are very easy to remove. The process just involves

[RBW] Re: Touring site, possibly of interest to listers

2019-04-10 Thread Patrick Moore
Sheesh: http://www.cyclingabout.com/article-directory-2/ On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 9:30 AM Patrick Moore wrote: > Perhaps many of you already know this site, but I just stumbled across it > the other day. I'm no tourist, but the author discusses many subjects of > interest to me and perhaps to

[RBW] Re: Quick cockpit swap (say that 10x fast)

2019-04-10 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 7:47:54 AM UTC-7, Shoji Takahashi wrote: > > > On my Hunqapillar, it was easy to unclip the canti-straddle cable. Set the > brake cable lengths on multiple cockpits to-be at the same straddle > heights, and there's little adjustment necessary. > > Easiest would

[RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

2019-04-10 Thread Dave Grossman
I'm back to friction almost exclusively now and I am tired of fiddling with indexing setups. I like the idea of set and forget and I love the idea of really having to be in tune with the bike to shift. My Jones has 11 speed XT which does shift really nicely, but when I get back to friction on

[RBW] Quick cockpit swap (say that 10x fast)

2019-04-10 Thread Jon Dukeman,central Colorado
I would suggest building up a Sam Hillborne or a Clem with the cockpit you like if possible. Decision on what to ride can be made at ride time. Jon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: FT: My 54.5cm MIT AHH for your 54cm AHH or Saluki

2019-04-10 Thread phil k
Thanks for sharing your experience Chad. Yes, I've been through a lot of Rivs mainly because my proportions seem out of the norm. To be clear 54.5 when riding with shoes is no problem. I'm not a stickler about standover, especially on a road bike like this. With shoes if I tilt the bike even

Re: [RBW] Re: FS -- Bike Bags, Riv and other

2019-04-10 Thread David Hays
He told me he was going to UPS to check shipping costs today and get back to me with total costs to PayPal. David Hays Williamsville, New York > On Apr 9, 2019, at 9:38 PM, David Bivins wrote: > > He gave me a confirmation of what I wanted to buy but hasn't followed up with > payment

Re: [RBW] Quick cockpit swap (say that 10x fast)

2019-04-10 Thread Keith Weaver
I have an S coupled bike, I'd recommend using those kind of splitters. This is assuming your frame has split cable stops to let you pull the cable attached to the bars out easily. Here's a link to a site that carries them: http://www.davincitandems.com/components/. Take a look down toward the

Re: [RBW] Quick cockpit swap (say that 10x fast)

2019-04-10 Thread Patrick Moore
In one word: Buy Another Bike. Seriously, I understand the desire to make one bike do many things; I tried that myself back in the very early '90s with 3 wheelsets, for offroad, commuting/errands, and "gofast", each with appropriate tires and cassettes, but I shortly discovered that I really

Re: [RBW] Re: Quick cockpit swap (say that 10x fast)

2019-04-10 Thread Patrick Moore
Let me elucidate. You can buy a very reliable used car for $10K. The average new car cost in 2018 was $35K, per a quick Google (vi). If you shell out for 3 new Rivs at $4K/each -- you get the picture. And $4K is pretty generous. Where do all the deep pockets come from? That's 1 answer. On Wed,

[RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

2019-04-10 Thread jack loudon
"I like the idea of doing it myself, and I don't want a machine to take it over for me!" As I get older I also find myself leaning more toward simple over complex. Complex can be wonderfully convenient until it fails, and I've had two indexing failures. My first shifter fail was 9-sp Campy

[RBW] Re: Quick cockpit swap (say that 10x fast)

2019-04-10 Thread jack loudon
[image: thorn] I'm sure many of you have seen this from Sheldon Brown... On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 6:43:55 AM UTC-7, esoterica etc wrote: > > > Howdy all, > > I’m looking into possible ways on how to construct a “quick release” > method for easy swapping of cockpits. My Atlantis

Re: [RBW] Re: Quick cockpit swap (say that 10x fast)

2019-04-10 Thread 'jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch
Patrick -- ha! I like your thinking ... but the OP was asking about cockpit swaps (!) On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 2:17:18 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Let me elucidate. You can buy a very reliable used car for $10K. The > average new car cost in 2018 was $35K, per a quick Google (vi).

[RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

2019-04-10 Thread S
Thanks! That’s good to know. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

[RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddles

2019-04-10 Thread Chris Birkenmaier
Just have to chime in since there isn't normally a lot of chatter around Berthoud saddles. As much as I adore Brooks, the Mente is one of my all time favorites. I have alt bars on all my bikes except for the Roadini which has Albaastache and the Mente works very well for me. I like the long

[RBW] Re: Mark's Rack (M1) on Back?

2019-04-10 Thread RichS
George, The Mark's Rack looks perfect on your gorgeous Ram. I have one in my spare parts collection and was debating whether or not to put on a Hilsen I'm putting together. You convinced me! Best, Rich in ATL On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 8:25:11 PM UTC-4, Takashi wrote: > > I usually put no

[RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

2019-04-10 Thread Adam Leibow
S - yes dramatically. i had a 70mm stem with the drops and switched to a 110mm stem to make the wavies fit. On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 11:29:13 AM UTC-8, Adam Leibow wrote: > > hi all, i want to create a thread where you just post a picture of your > rivendell(s) whenever you feel like it.

Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

2019-04-10 Thread Adam Leibow
S - yes dramatically different. I went from a 70mm stem to a 110mm stem to make the wavies fit. Adam Leibow Junior Associate IALD *PRITCHARD/PECK* LIGHTING 389 Clementina St. | San Francisco, CA 94103 office 415.323.5540 pritchardpeck.com On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 10:48 AM S wrote: > Did you

[RBW] Re: Quick cockpit swap (say that 10x fast)

2019-04-10 Thread 'jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch
An Atlantis is a perfect candidate for a drop/upright easy switch-out and provided yours has DT shifter bosses (and you're OK using down tube shifters) then Shoji and Benz have it right. Seriously folks -- buy another bike (?) where did all the deep pockets come from??? On Wednesday, April

Re: [RBW] Re: Quick cockpit swap (say that 10x fast)

2019-04-10 Thread Patrick Moore
The deep pockets come from driving old cars no more miles than necessary. With 3 bikes (+ folder/beater) I drive -- what, 1K miles/year?. Even paying for gas and insurance (!) and repairs on an old car that I basically let my 17 year old daughter use, I have plenty $ left over for bike stuff.

[RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

2019-04-10 Thread S
Did you switch to a different stem length for the Wavies or did you keep the same stem you used with drops? I am thinking of making the same transition and I wonder if I should get a longer stem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

Re: [RBW] Re: Quick cockpit swap (say that 10x fast)

2019-04-10 Thread Patrick Moore
Read the entire thread. On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 12:36 PM 'jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Patrick -- ha! I like your thinking ... but the OP was asking about > cockpit swaps (!) > > On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 2:17:18 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore

[RBW] Re: Quick cockpit swap (say that 10x fast)

2019-04-10 Thread Ash
 That's compelling setup to try. Luckily, my Boscos take me 80% there in terms of riding positions offered. On Wednesday, 10 April 2019 11:38:39 UTC-7, jack loudon wrote: > > [image: thorn] > I'm sure many of you have seen this from Sheldon Brown... > > > On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at