Re: [RBW] replace top tube to improve ride

2021-03-21 Thread Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY
As your framebuilder said, probably best left alone. But, as an amateur brazer, I'd solve the "problem" by cutting the tubes a bit less, leaving nubs to use as lugs for a tube with a outside diameter that matches the inside diameter of the existing toptube. This wouldn't get you down to 1',

Re: [RBW] replace top tube to improve ride

2021-03-21 Thread Christopher Cote
This reminds me of a, possibly apocryphal, story about a major motorcycle manufacturer that was testing a new motocross bike. The test rider complained that it didn't turn in well, and one of the engineers grabbed a cordless drill and drilled a hole in the frame behind the headtube. After a

[RBW] Re: Platypus Weight?

2021-03-21 Thread aeroperf
I would be interested to find out what ANY of the Riv frame sets weigh. My only data point is for a 2014 55 Sam, built up with fenders, bell, and rear rack - 30.5 pounds. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: Intro from Pittsburgh

2021-03-21 Thread 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch
Thanks for the Pittsburgh post. Born and raised in Mt Oliver, but been away for a longer time, but always enjoy Pittsburgh. I always thought a ride down to Coraopolois and then riding the Montour trail would be nice. Coraopolis can be reached via Wabash/Sheridan to the Rocks, and then

[RBW] Re: Platypus Weight?

2021-03-21 Thread Linda G
A 50 cm Roadini frame and fork with installed bottom bracket and headset weighs 7 pounds, 12 oz. Subtracting weights for bottom bracket and headset I believe that Rivendell used, found on the internet: 6 pounds, 12.5 oz. Complete bike with no extras except bottle cage: 22 pounds, 9 ozs. This is

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Brand New Nitto RM-3 Drop Bars

2021-03-21 Thread Max S
What's the clamp diameter spec on this version?.. - Max "dirt that droppy bar" in A2 On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 1:13:21 AM UTC-4 bria...@gmail.com wrote: > Hey Philip, > > let me know if you want to pick it up. As you know, they're great bars. > just gotta divert these funds to break even

Re: [RBW] replace top tube to improve ride

2021-03-21 Thread Clark Fitzgerald
Kai- A "TIG lug"- cool idea. The poor man's bilaminate frame :) On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 9:15 AM Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY < kaiviers...@gmail.com> wrote: > As your framebuilder said, probably best left alone. But, as an amateur > brazer, I'd solve the "problem" by cutting the tubes a bit less,

[RBW] In Praise of Park Tools

2021-03-21 Thread Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA
I have one of those workstand seat tube holder things, but the top knob broke a while back. It's not something Park has sold for many years, and I probably could have come up with a fix, but I took a chance and called to see if they had a knob for it. Talked to a real person who pointed me to

[RBW] Platypus Weight?

2021-03-21 Thread Philip Barrett
Any ideas what the Platypus frameset will weigh? Yes, I know it's a weight-weenie question & the Riv-Mafia will be all over me for it but I'm just interested. I thought it was mentioned somewhere on their website but I can't find it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Brand New Nitto RM-3 Drop Bars

2021-03-21 Thread Brian Carbajal
25.4mm Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 21, 2021, at 7:05 AM, Max S wrote: > > What's the clamp diameter spec on this version?.. > > - Max "dirt that droppy bar" in A2 > >> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 1:13:21 AM UTC-4 bria...@gmail.com wrote: >> Hey Philip, >> >> let me know if you want to

[RBW] Re: replace top tube to improve ride

2021-03-21 Thread 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch
Dont know anyone who did it, but some considerations: If the frame is Tig welded, you may have hard time with a 1" TT, just from a fabrication aspect. Also, Tig welding in the 90's generally used tubing with a larger wall thickness for margin of safety. If a lugged frame, then the cost

Re: [RBW] replace top tube to improve ride

2021-03-21 Thread Clark Fitzgerald
I asked my local frame builder about this idea, and here's what he had to say: This is not something I would recommend doing. Since the frame is TIG welded my concern would be the integrity of both the head tube and seat tube after the top tube was removed and the weld remnants filed away. TIG

Re: [RBW] replace top tube to improve ride

2021-03-21 Thread 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch
Jan Heine sells 26"x 1.8" supple tires by Panaracer. perhaps a $72 investment would 'soften up' your ride to the maximum extent possible. If still too harsh, a new flexible frame would be the next step. I agree with the Tig welding affecting the head and seat tube integrity if welded a 2nd

[RBW] FS BDB Pelican Touring frame 54cm

2021-03-21 Thread J L
Hello Rivs, There may be some interest here in this bike frame and fork pick up in San Francisco. $500 obo Contact me offline for pics or offer. Tig welded 2010 frame designed in San Francisco by Box Dog BIkes. Size 54 (56cm C-T seat tube and 56cm top tube) Standard diameter tubing, but not

[RBW] Re: What's your favorite painting of a Bombadil?

2021-03-21 Thread Michael Baquerizo
as someone who's always scared of making aesthetic choices, especially when given infinite options, I really like rivs painted in the colors of other rivs. seems you're in a similar school of thought but to me the hunq and the bombadil are too similar. I'd go for something different, like

[RBW] WTB 650b wheel set rim brake

2021-03-21 Thread Jack Manns
Looking for a Pacenti Brevet 28 or 32h, rim brake, tubeless compatible for crust lighting bolt Canti so I will have think 130 mm rear spacing. Dynamo a plus especially a son. Also, what is the best way to post on an iPhone... the google interface is very clunky? Jack dc area -- You

[RBW] Re: Can you herd cattle on a Sam Hillbourne? Winged horse and a Dinosaur all on one ride.

2021-03-21 Thread Mike Godwin
I was going to say the gold statue is Dow Jones. Mike SLO CA On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 7:27:58 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote: > > You were 5 mins from my place (Southside on Formerly Lamar now Jean > Botham), I rode 30 miles, started around 10am. Twas breezy coming back to > downtown

[RBW] Re: What's your favorite painting of a Bombadil?

2021-03-21 Thread Jason Fuller
Nathan - I was waiting for that answer haha Thanks for the suggestions! I know what you mean Michael about choosing a paintjob that's too near an original color without being an original color. I have thought about Atlantis blue-green too, as its such a beautiful and iconic color but I also

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie/Wolbis Front-Center Question

2021-03-21 Thread carlos recarte
Thanks, Bill! These messages are coming in a little slow, but that is exactly my question. My current bike has a headtube angle (73 degrees) and a fork offset of 65mm with a resulting trial of 43mm. This is on the higher side of low trail but allows for the kind of handling I like and no toe

[RBW] Re: FS - Bags and a rack! Sackville, Fab's Chest, Nitto

2021-03-21 Thread Adam Bowen
EVERYTHING IS SOLD! THANK YOU, EVERYONE! On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 11:28:39 AM UTC-4 Adam Bowen wrote: > Sackville TrunkSack Small - GREEN - $80 +$10 Shipping > Sackville SaddleSack XSmall - GRAY - *SOLD* > Fabio's Chest, sewn by Swift Industries - GREEN - LARGE - $200 + $20 > shipped >

[RBW] Re: New look for rivbike.com and new News blog

2021-03-21 Thread Ted Fay
nice work harder than it appears. many of the internal links are broken, and wind up on the home page. it’s not a great experience, and Google doesn’t love it. fixing all the links in transferred content is a pain, but at a minimum have a good 404 page. better to tell the user you know they

Re: [RBW] Re: Any Susie owners out there?

2021-03-21 Thread Benjamin Park
I snagged the last one! Well thanks to all the reviews here and elsewhere, including some long discussions with Will, I bought the LAST Susie! It's a large, and I'm a little anxious it's too big even though plenty of people say it won't be (PBH 86). I currently ride a Jones Plus LWB size M, and

[RBW] FS: NITTO RM-3 mountain drop handle (silver/580)

2021-03-21 Thread Brian Carbajal
Bought these and never used. 25.4 clamp dia Brand new. $78 shipped OBO. Paypal friends and family (or add the fee). pics -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] WTB: Riv Bullmoose w/ Quill

2021-03-21 Thread Nikko Mendoza
Hey y’all, I’m looking for these bars. They’re sold out at Riv, but hoping someone has em in their bin. Local pickup would be great, but I’d also pay for shipping. Thanks, Nikko in Oakland -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

Re: [RBW] Platypus Weight?

2021-03-21 Thread Anthony Coffin
Not an answer to the question you are asking, but word from Will is it’s essentially the same tube set as the Appaloosa. I’m guessing that would be a medium duty tube set by Riv standards. On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 9:11 AM Philip Barrett wrote: > Any ideas what the Platypus frameset will weigh?

[RBW] Re: What's your favorite painting of a Bombadil?

2021-03-21 Thread Joe Bernard
Mark@Riv's first cyclocross custom was my color gray with cream, that was a really pretty bike. I'll see if I can track down a pic. On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 10:19:39 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote: > Nathan - I was waiting for that answer haha > > Thanks for the suggestions! I know what

[RBW] Re: Can you herd cattle on a Sam Hillbourne? Winged horse and a Dinosaur all on one ride.

2021-03-21 Thread Philip Barrett
You were 5 mins from my place (Southside on Formerly Lamar now Jean Botham), I rode 30 miles, started around 10am. Twas breezy coming back to downtown on the SF Trail. On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 8:14:47 PM UTC-5 Paul in Dallas wrote: > I had guesstimated around 40 longhorns but just found

[RBW] Re: In Praise of Park Tools

2021-03-21 Thread Jeffrey Arita
Peter, I own a lot of Park Tools, including a CN-10. I use them quite often. Perhaps your CN-10 is a lemon? Give Park a call and explain your experience with that particular tool. They just might send you a replacement. Best regards, Jeff Claremont, CA On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at

[RBW] Re: Platypus vs. Appaloosa

2021-03-21 Thread Roberta
Jay, I’m selling my Joe Appaloosa complete bike to buy a Platypus. I think the Joe A is great for what you’re looking for and the reason I’m selling it vs my AHH is , specifically , that I don’t ride off roads like you’re describing. ( I’ve been procrastinating on listing it. ). It is great

[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Redwood Frameset - 65cm - $1000 plus shipping/packing

2021-03-21 Thread David B
Just one bump and lower, then I'll let this simmer. $900 for frame/fork, and King headset. Fully lugged, Toyo-made for the same price as a Roadini. I understand this could take a while to find the right buyer - that's perfectly fine. I'll update this thread when the frameset sells, so if you're

[RBW] Re: Platypus Weight?

2021-03-21 Thread aeroperf
I can’t imagine someone who wanted a certain Rivendell bike turning it down because another model weighed a pound less. I’m just interested in what design choices have what results. Like the step-throughs. How does a Platypus (mixte) compare to a Susie (swooping top tube) compare to a Clem

[RBW] Re: In Praise of Park Tools

2021-03-21 Thread Christopher Cote
I had a brand new external BB socket crumble like an old cookie the first time I used it. Obviously a bad casting. I emailed Park's customer support, they asked for a pic, and sent me a new one really quickly. A+ customer service in my book. Chris On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 1:15:13 PM

Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus Weight?

2021-03-21 Thread Ben Mihovk
I think when you factor in my size (6'3" and 225) and the fact that I do carry at least 10 additional pounds (and a lot more when I'm picking up stuff at the store on the way home), the Atlantis made a lot more sense than a Homer or Sam. Riv's website says 220 is a good weight limit for a Sam

[RBW] Platypus vs. Appaloosa

2021-03-21 Thread Jay LePree
Hi all: I am deciding between an Appaloosa (Atlantis-like) and the Platypus (Chevoit like). I would plan to use the bicycle for commuting and long rides on pavement and gravel/double track (with some roots and rocks thrown in - nothing technical - but in NJ we don't have smooth fire trails,

[RBW] Can you herd cattle on a Sam Hillbourne? Winged horse and a Dinosaur all on one ride.

2021-03-21 Thread True Golden
Wow Patrick! That sounds like some interesting times at university! About 5 years back I got interested in the Mash TV show and finally watched all the episodes. Paul in Dallas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] WTB clem saddle

2021-03-21 Thread jeffbog...@hotmail.com
Anyone have a spare saddle from their Clem? Please send pm with price shipped to 36532. Thanks! Jeff (Alabama) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[RBW] Re: Platypus Weight?

2021-03-21 Thread Garth
If I ever get around to opening my Susie box and I can give a rough weight. It's rough because the only scale I have is a 1970's 25 pound "American Family" scale. It's accurate to the 1/2 or 1/4 pound at least. The UPS box is rounded off to 15 pounds though, so if someone has a 59cm. Susie box

[RBW] Re: Platypus Weight?

2021-03-21 Thread Ben Mihovk
Very interesting discussion! I don't think I care about weight, but I think it's nice to know what you're working with. My MIT 59cm Atlantis is a whopping 39 pounds apparently. That seems WAY heavier than it should be, but I do have a Mark's rack and basket, a flimsy/cheap rear rack, an

Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus Weight?

2021-03-21 Thread Patrick Moore
You're 50-55 lb heavier than I, but I still think Riv's weight limits are in good part warranty control, and I have no problem with that. That goes double for the official Nitto rack weight limits. On the other side of the coin, I have a 60 X 56 (center-to-center, my perfect size with level tt)

Re: [RBW] Can you herd cattle on a Sam Hillbourne? Winged horse and a Dinosaur all on one ride.

2021-03-21 Thread Patrick Moore
I used all the time I saved on patrol to good purpose, junior year, swatting up on Hooke and Boyle and Lavoisier and the other early chemists and theoreticians of atomic theory, not to mention Descarte's *Algebra.* Aced math and science that year, though I got little sleep on weekends, though I

Re: [RBW] replace top tube to improve ride

2021-03-21 Thread Patrick Moore
I can vouch for the suppleness and fast-rolling quality of the 1.8" RH Naches Pass tire, in the "normal" as well as the "EL" versions. In my experience, they give up little, perhaps nothing, to the sublime rolling quality of the ultra light, 175-gram RH Elk Pass. But I doubt whether even the best

[RBW] Re: What's your favorite painting of a Bombadil?

2021-03-21 Thread Andrew Turner
I'll second that blue paintjob, I really love the darker headtube look. On Saturday, March 20, 2021 at 6:32:31 PM UTC-5 Chris L wrote: > British racing green and cream. > > [image: Green bomba.jpg] > > On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 7:27:47 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote: > >> So, many of you are

[RBW] Can you herd cattle on a Sam Hillbourne? Winged horse and a Dinosaur all on one ride.

2021-03-21 Thread True Golden
A bit of searching on net reveals the golden stature is this: Spirit of Communication is the formal name for a statue originally called Genius of Telegraphy. The statue has been the symbol of AT (and also the former Western

[RBW] Re: Platypus Weight?

2021-03-21 Thread Bill Lindsay
Did you buy one and you want to know what it will weigh when you get it? Or, do you want to know what it weighs as you ponder whether or not to buy one? Are you planning a minimalist light weight build? I've contemplated a super light build for a Riv Step Through for many years. That would

[RBW] Re: In Praise of Park Tools

2021-03-21 Thread Peter Adler
That's interesting, and raises the question of whether their customer support might be relied on for other things. I own many Park tools (spanners, hex drivers, spoke wrenches etc), but only a few with moving parts: The PAW-12 crescent wrench, the CCP-2 dual 22mm (Campy/Shimano)/23mm (TA)

[RBW] FS These nice items need new homes

2021-03-21 Thread Dave Redmon
*Here are a few items needing new homes. Reduced prices plus shipping;, which will vary from $8 to about $15 depending on your zip code. Please email me off list for photos and questions* *$48 Handlebar MAP Ahearne alum silver 620mm x 22.4 like new VG * *$53 Microshift BS-T10 bar-end

[RBW] Re: Platypus vs. Appaloosa

2021-03-21 Thread Joe Bernard
I've owned an Appaloosa and Cheviot and they felt pretty similar to me as road bikes (I didn't ride trails). The only demerit I would give the Chev for your riding conditions is caliper brakes, but that's been changed on the Platypus to the same v-brakes as Appaloosa. Between Appa and Platy I

[RBW] Re: Platypus Weight?

2021-03-21 Thread dougP
I don't recall Rivendell ever quoting weights, other than a comment that the Atlantis is about a pound more than other frames (this was wayback when they had fewer models). My 58 cm Atlantis in stock Rivendell build c. 2003 was around 26#. Like happens to us all, as it's aged it's gained

Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus Weight?

2021-03-21 Thread Patrick Moore
Wow, 40 lb! No matter if the bike is fun to ride. But I regularly carried 35 lb in groceries, and up to 45 lb, on a very light *tout 531* early '70s Motobecane racing frame with 11 oz Tubus Fly rack with no problems in the 2 or 3 years that it was my principal grocery and commuting beater -- I was

Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus Weight?

2021-03-21 Thread Philip Barrett
This is turning into an interesting discussion, here's my measurements on a Clem Smith L; Frame = 6.6lbs Fork = 2.4lbs *Total = 9lbs* With a very typical Riv build kit including dynamo wheel, front & rear Nitto racks and a bell, the total weight comes to 37.2lbs. On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at