Re: [RBW] Re: I picked up my Bomba and other observations at Rivendell HQ

2010-03-24 Thread CycloFiend
on 3/23/10 7:47 PM, happyriding at happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote:

 On Mar 23, 4:02 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for the nice words about my Bomba.  I will be heading back to
 HQ Thursday morning (they didn't have my front rim today).  I'll take
 the shot and post if I can.  I think you have through the 25th to get
 the lower price and the $100 credit.  On the 26th it will still be the
 lower price, but the credit will be gone.
 
 
 Another confusing point: the Hunqapillar .pdf file that you can
 download says that April 1 is the deadline for getting the discount on
 a pre-order, while Rivendell's website lists the deadline  as March 25.

This, and a couple other of questions directed towards the RBW folks in the
thread, are really best directed at them directly.

I see from your timestamp that it's after hours in Walnut Creek, but I'm
hoping you are directing your Riv-specific questions to them as well.

- Jim

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Re: [RBW] Re: Feedback on Large Shopsack? Anyone using it?

2010-03-24 Thread Rene Sterental
Thanks for the feedback, I've already placed my order for the huge basket
and the large grey shopsack!

René

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[RBW] Re: Hilarious Linguistic Observation

2010-03-24 Thread Marty
Right you are - I missed that one. Guess that would be a uil. It
even extends to favorite charities, where we find the mil of Smile
Train.

OK - enough on this. Don't want to spawn any ill will...

On Mar 24, 12:16 am, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote:
 And the ram. :-)



 On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote:
  Happened to notice how many models have an il in them: Two hils, a
  pil, an'a dil. (Not to mention the old wil) That's almost a whole sac
  vil!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hilarious Linguistic Observation

2010-03-24 Thread Jon Grant
For that matter, the letters ³i² and ³l² appear in Rivendell, Atlantis, and
Saluki ‹ though not in specific order or adjacent.

Huh.

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From: Marty mgie...@mac.com
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 03:52:00 -0700 (PDT)
To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: Hilarious Linguistic Observation

Right you are - I missed that one. Guess that would be a uil. It
even extends to favorite charities, where we find the mil of Smile
Train.

OK - enough on this. Don't want to spawn any ill will...

On Mar 24, 12:16 am, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote:
 And the ram. :-)



 On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote:
  Happened to notice how many models have an il in them: Two hils, a
  pil, an'a dil. (Not to mention the old wil) That's almost a whole sac
  vil!

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[RBW] Sackville Barsack

2010-03-24 Thread Ken Freeman
Has anyone tried one yet?  Whadd'ya think?

The on-line page says it must be used with the special Nitto F15 rack, which
mounts to the handlebar.  Anybody see why?  Why can't it be used with a
decaleur and a little front bag rack, like a TA, Berthoud, or Nitto?

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Re: [RBW] Sackville Barsack

2010-03-24 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 09:07 -0400, Ken Freeman wrote:
 Has anyone tried one yet?  Whadd'ya think?
 
 The on-line page says it must be used with the special Nitto F15 rack,
 which mounts to the handlebar.  Anybody see why?  Why can't it be used
 with a decaleur and a little front bag rack, like a TA, Berthoud, or
 Nitto?

I see no reason why it couln't be used that way, Ken.  I modified one of
the original Kirtland Tour Paks (which also were originally meant to be
supported by rods, only the Kirtland hooked over the stem rather than
bolted to it like the Nitto) so I could use it with a VO front rack and
a Berthoud Decaleur
http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916...@n00/2668210913/in/set-72157606169015639/
and I've seen one of the old Riv Boxy Bags mounted that way also.

I think the intent is to say you can't just strap it onto the handlebars
and let it hang loose, like you can with some of the other Riv handlebar
bags.



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Re: [RBW] Sackville Barsack

2010-03-24 Thread Ken Freeman
That's been my thinking, too.  I guess the underlying question is whether
Grant is prone to hyperbole, since I don't really follow Riv too closely.
It's either an amazing statement, an incomplete statement (as you suggest),
or sales fluffle (e.g, hyperbole).

I'm in the middle of modifying my old Rhode Gear bag to take a decaleur so I
can test my Woodrup's geometry.  I really don't see why any flat-bottomed
bag that can accept a decaleur at the right height can't be front-racked.

I'm just wondering if there's anything really special about this bag from a
mounting point of view.  Looks to me like not.

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:

 On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 09:07 -0400, Ken Freeman wrote:
  Has anyone tried one yet?  Whadd'ya think?
 
  The on-line page says it must be used with the special Nitto F15 rack,
  which mounts to the handlebar.  Anybody see why?  Why can't it be used
  with a decaleur and a little front bag rack, like a TA, Berthoud, or
  Nitto?

 I see no reason why it couln't be used that way, Ken.  I modified one of
 the original Kirtland Tour Paks (which also were originally meant to be
 supported by rods, only the Kirtland hooked over the stem rather than
 bolted to it like the Nitto) so I could use it with a VO front rack and
 a Berthoud Decaleur

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916...@n00/2668210913/in/set-72157606169015639/
 and I've seen one of the old Riv Boxy Bags mounted that way also.

 I think the intent is to say you can't just strap it onto the handlebars
 and let it hang loose, like you can with some of the other Riv handlebar
 bags.



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Re: [RBW] Sackville Barsack

2010-03-24 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 09:29 -0400, Ken Freeman wrote:
 That's been my thinking, too.  I guess the underlying question is
 whether Grant is prone to hyperbole, since I don't really follow Riv
 too closely.  It's either an amazing statement, an incomplete
 statement (as you suggest), or sales fluffle (e.g, hyperbole).  
 
 I'm in the middle of modifying my old Rhode Gear bag to take a
 decaleur so I can test my Woodrup's geometry.  I really don't see why
 any flat-bottomed bag that can accept a decaleur at the right height
 can't be front-racked. 

Neither do I.  

I also modified a Nashbar Elite bag (klick-fix type bracket) for
rack/decaleur use.  That took a while to drill out the rivets to remove
the klick-fix bracket, but the actually drilling and reinforcing of the
top edge of the bag for the decaleur was quite easy.


 I'm just wondering if there's anything really special about this bag
 from a mounting point of view.  Looks to me like not.

Only special in that it has those sleeves for the horizontal rods, I
think.  If you had one of the original Kirtland brackets, I wouldn't be
surprised if you were able to use it as well as the Nitto rack.

Basically, I don't think decaleurs are part of Grant's world view.  He
doesn't sell them, doesn't use them and probably doesn't even think
about them.  And front racks in his thinking are front-mounted rack
trunk supporters, not handlebar bag supports.




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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Mystery Bib Idea

2010-03-24 Thread Marty
Just got the Riv Reader CDs in the mail, and low and behold, RR1 -
page 3 - makes it official; Grant has been holding this idea back for
way too long. Must have been eating him up inside all this time. I
vote for a version with a full size French newspaper reprint on the
front. Something from le Tour perhaps?

http://tinyurl.com/ygouldz

On Mar 20, 1:52 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Did I call it or what? Quoted from the original thread:

 Gernot (gloating's my middle name) Huber



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 From: Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com
 Date: Mar 6, 11:58 pm
 Subject: Rivendell's Mystery Item?
 To: RBW Owners Bunch

 Okay,

 this is actually a (semi-)serious entry: a windbreaker that consists
 only of the front torso section of a typical windbreaker, with loops
 to go around the neck, the arms, and the waist, to hold it in place.
 Sorta an upscale manufactured version of the old bike racer's trick of
 sliding a newspaper under his jersey front in cold weather...

 Gernot

 On Mar 19, 9:59 pm, Scott G. sco...@primax.com wrote:
  Same idea without the lobster motif.
  Saw it reviewed on some cycling site a couple years ago.

 http://www.thewarmfront.com/main.html

  Rapha sold a gillet a few years ago with Gazzetta del Sport printed on
  it, fun idea.

  Whilst 
  googling.http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/360/19241/ITEM/Schampa-Chest...

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[RBW] Re: Sackville Barsack

2010-03-24 Thread MKahrl
I really liked the original handlebar brackets for Kirtland front
bags.   It was very easy to take on and off the bike and you didn't
need elastic bungees going down to the fork dropout eyelets.  There
was also a handlebar waterbottle cage that mounted in a similar manner
that was also easy to swap on and off as needed.

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[RBW] Re: Portland, OR shops

2010-03-24 Thread Ron MH
Dave,

I too live in the Rose City. I'm on a direct path from Beth's fine
establishment to Sellwood. The aforementioned shops are all on my |go
to list.

When you do manage to come up for a stay, I imagine a little group
ride. Nothing too nerdy, but maybe a stop for coffee or brewskis. I'm
all in!

Ron

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[RBW] Ebay Sale of the Carter's Bike Plans

2010-03-24 Thread Erik C
Not even sure what to say about this auction. It isn't mine of course.
I'm having a hard time believing anyone will want this. Maybe i'm
wrong.

http://tiny.cc/qqcmd

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[RBW] Re: Nice little write up on Velo Cult

2010-03-24 Thread Esteban
This conversation's is unfolding over on the Flickr group... but I'm
working on a Riv Ride route for Sunday morning of the SD Custom Show.

Velo Cult is hosting the SDCBS after party at 7pm on Sunday.  It will
likely be quite crowded.  It also might be too late for some folks
needing to get back home for work on Monday.

So, we'll still do something that will include a bit of dirt and some
nice views and beer and a daytime stop at Velo Cult (its on 30th St.
along with a slew of brewpubs - the Brewlevard).

I rode Penasquitos Preserve on Sunday to see how it might be --
perhaps a bit too sandy and rocky with all the rain... but if we took
it slow, it might be fun.  There are other options I'm exploring
(Florida canyon? Mt. Soledad?).  Think: meet, ride for 2 or 3 hours,
get lunch/beer, go to the show. Or... quick lunch after the ride
(taqueria), see the show, then get an afternoon beer up on 30th St.

There will be options... but for sure, there'll be a little Rivvy
event on Sunday.

Esteban
San Diego, Calif.

On Mar 22, 11:13 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
 SUCCESS!!





 On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'll work on a route that will include a little climbing, a little
  dirt, a stop at Velo Cult, and a little beer!

  Esteban
  San Diego, Calif.

  On Mar 22, 6:15 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
   On Sunday 4/11, how about a San Diego loop ride that includes Velo
   Cult, the bike show  cerveza?  Hey, that's 3 things on one day -
   that's the retiree's limit!  Oh, throw in a couple of hills, just to
   keep us honest.  Looking at their website, Velo Cult could take as
   much time as the bike show.  Beautiful stuff.

   dougP

   On Mar 22, 4:35 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:

One more: BEER.

On Mar 22, 4:34 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:

 Lessee...
 Velo Cult
 Joe Bell
 CycleArt
 Adventurecorps/Rough Riders
 So Cal Riv Riders
 Mt. Laguna Classic
 San Diego Custom Bicycle Show...

 Do you all need another reason to visit in the next month?!

 Esteban
 Hometown: San Diego, Calif.
 On Mar 22, 3:53 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote:

  Thank you Chris.  Sounds like my kind of place.

  I have an increasingly huge horde of vintage, mostly French and
  Italian parts from the '40s through the early '80s.  Beginning to
  think I ought to donate the parts to an operation like this, both
  to
  share with interested observers and also to better ensure the parts
  don't get thrown away.  Believe it or not, one day on tour last
  fall -
  during the quiet somewhat boring part of the ride where the road
  conditions are not challenging and the scenerey boring - I spent
  about
  an hour worrying what if I were to be run over on this tour.  My
  heirs
  have no idea how rare some of my parts are.  They may wind up
  selling
  them at a huge discounts to people who would use the parts on throw
  away bikes.

  Having a destination museum run by people who at once care and know
  what they are doing is a real nice thing for like minded
  collectors.

  On Mar 22, 5:15 pm, XO-1.org Rough Riders 
  adventureco...@gmail.com
  wrote:

   Velo Cult is the only shop I frequent down here in the San Diego
   region. They are great guys, very eclectic and fun, and true
  cycling
   advocates and enthusiasts. Owner Sky Boyer (how's that for a cool
   cycling name?) loaned me a part from one of his personal Chris
  King
   headsets to help me get my Rivendell Roadeo on the road recently;
   that's the kind of guy he is and the kind of shop they are. He's
  an
   accomplished mountain bike and cyclocross racer, too, and wise
  beyond
   his age, as he's pretty darn young to have such a great shop and
  such
   a broad view of cycling. (You wouldn't believe their warehouse
  -
   seriously, they could charge for tours. Their shop's retail floor
  is
   totally fascinating with the most amazing collection of
  interesting
   bikes for sale. That selection is just 1/10th as amazing as
  what's in
   their warehouse. It's like Velo Cult is a magnet or vortex for
  funky,
   one-of-a-kind, and impossible to find classic bikes of a very
  wide
   variety, even mountain bike tandems from the early 80s, just to
  name
   one niche they are also into.)

   They also founded and moderatehttp://www.sdbikecommuter.com,
  which
   covers all types of cycling, not just commuting. They also were
  the
   main proponents of the recent San Diego Tweed Ride.

   They have a very image-heavy blog and are developing an online
  museum
   on it and their website:http://www.velocult.com/Skyandemployee/
   photographer Anthony even came over to our house a while back to
   photograph most of my bikes, frames, and some of the more
  interesting
   

[RBW] Re: Ebay Sale of the Carter's Bike Plans

2010-03-24 Thread JoelMatthews
maybe I am falling for a con, but I find the seller's writing style
curiously charming. Nice photo of the bike anyway.

On Mar 24, 11:21 am, Erik C erikdcarl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Not even sure what to say about this auction. It isn't mine of course.
 I'm having a hard time believing anyone will want this. Maybe i'm
 wrong.

 http://tiny.cc/qqcmd

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ebay Sale of the Carter's Bike Plans

2010-03-24 Thread Jon Grant
I don¹t think it¹s a scam; I bought my plans from JS that way. But even my
own plans aren¹t worth $200 to me. I wish him luck.

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From: JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:50:25 -0700 (PDT)
To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: Ebay Sale of the Carter's Bike Plans

maybe I am falling for a con, but I find the seller's writing style
curiously charming. Nice photo of the bike anyway.

On Mar 24, 11:21 am, Erik C erikdcarl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Not even sure what to say about this auction. It isn't mine of course.
 I'm having a hard time believing anyone will want this. Maybe i'm
 wrong.

 http://tiny.cc/qqcmd

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[RBW] Re: Sackville Barsack

2010-03-24 Thread J. Burkhalter
I don't think there is anything inherently special about the mounting
of this bag that would prevent you from hacking it for use with a
decaleur and front rack.  I'm still waiting on the F-15 Nitto rack so
haven't tried the BarSack yet, but here are some things I would
consider before using this bag with a decaleur/front rack setup...

1. There is no horizontal leather strip along the top edge of the rear
of the bag where one would typically attach a decaleur.  Instead there
is a 2-snap leather tab and the magnets for securing the lid.
2. There is no slot or strap on the rear of the bag to attach to the
vertical part of a front Nitto or Berthoud rack.
3. There are no stiffeners in the bag.  The stiffener out of my Acorn
Rando bag fits in the Riv Barsack well, but would still need securing
at the top.

IMO, for $135 this bag is a screaming deal, given the high quality
materials, craftsmanship, and design.

Hope this helps,
-Jay
Denver, CO



On Mar 24, 7:29 am, Ken Freeman kenfreeman...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's been my thinking, too.  I guess the underlying question is whether
 Grant is prone to hyperbole, since I don't really follow Riv too closely.
 It's either an amazing statement, an incomplete statement (as you suggest),
 or sales fluffle (e.g, hyperbole).

 I'm in the middle of modifying my old Rhode Gear bag to take a decaleur so I
 can test my Woodrup's geometry.  I really don't see why any flat-bottomed
 bag that can accept a decaleur at the right height can't be front-racked.

 I'm just wondering if there's anything really special about this bag from a
 mounting point of view.  Looks to me like not.





 On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
  On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 09:07 -0400, Ken Freeman wrote:
   Has anyone tried one yet?  Whadd'ya think?

   The on-line page says it must be used with the special Nitto F15 rack,
   which mounts to the handlebar.  Anybody see why?  Why can't it be used
   with a decaleur and a little front bag rack, like a TA, Berthoud, or
   Nitto?

  I see no reason why it couln't be used that way, Ken.  I modified one of
  the original Kirtland Tour Paks (which also were originally meant to be
  supported by rods, only the Kirtland hooked over the stem rather than
  bolted to it like the Nitto) so I could use it with a VO front rack and
  a Berthoud Decaleur

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916...@n00/2668210913/in/set-721576061...
  and I've seen one of the old Riv Boxy Bags mounted that way also.

  I think the intent is to say you can't just strap it onto the handlebars
  and let it hang loose, like you can with some of the other Riv handlebar
  bags.

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Re: [RBW] You won't be ordering a Hunqapillar by tomorrow, but....

2010-03-24 Thread Bill Connell
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:17 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 How would you have run the Hunqa you are not going to buy tomorrow?


It would be my trail bike and offroad tourer. I still ride my MB4, but
it's really too small for me. I have a Crosscheck that doubles as a
commuter and gravel bike, but it's mostly set up as a singlespeed
lately, and my Redwood stays as my fast/long distance road bike. It
would basically serve as the dirt-oriented, geared version of what the
Crosscheck is now. I guess my bike gap for something like the Hunqa is
bigger than yours.

I'd most likely use 45-50cm tires, 1x8 or 1x9 gearing, front dyno
wheel and LED light, maybe mustache bars and a rear rack for my Pa
panniers, along with a deep desire not to turn around and head home
quite yet.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Chipping Hillborne Green

2010-03-24 Thread Rene Sterental
Does anyone know the color match for the Waterford AHH blue?

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Re: [RBW] You won't be ordering a Hunqapillar by tomorrow, but....

2010-03-24 Thread Dan Abelson
My would be my all road/off road ride.  I would probably set it up with 26 x
2.0 tires (I would likely get the 48), and set it up with either a triple or
a compact double with a mountain bike cassette in back. Handlebars I might
try Salsa Woodchippers otherwise the Nitto Noodle.  I would replace my
rarely ridden Gunnar Sport.  Leaving me with my Quickbeam as my nice weather
commuter/road ride/light trail ride bike, and my 1 x 8 crosscheck as my bad
weather/winter commuter and child trailer pulling bike.

While the Hunq looks like, I am more likely to implement a plan similar to
this by selling the Gunanr and getting a Salsa Fargo, or if I get lucky a
used Atlantis.

Dan Abelson
St. Paul, MN

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:17 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 So the Hunqapillar is going to cost $1500 this summer/fall.  You can
 pre-order one for $1400, and if you pre-order one by tomorrow, you get
 a $100 credit towards parts.  You were tempted and so was I.  You
 aren't going to bite, and I'm not either.  But, you did have an idea
 on how you were going to squeeze it into your stable, and rationalize
 it to yourself and your family.  What did that plan look like?

 For me, I have a Hillborne and just picked up a Bombadil.  A
 Hunqapillar would have to fit into an extremely tight window between
 those two bikes.  My plan was

 1.  Move the 36 hole wheelset from the Hillborne to the Hunqa.  Build
 a lighter 32 hole wheelset for the Hillborne.
 2.  Run 37c Paselas on the Hunqa, until I get 40+ Schwalbes.  Run Jack
 Browns or narrower on the Hillborne
 3.  Get an Albatross or Moustache bar stem setup that could in
 principle work on either the Hunqa or the Hillborne
 4.  Run a front cargo basket setup on the Hunqa
 5.  Switch the Hillborne to a 44/29 compact double

 I have parts enough that I'd be able to build up a Hunqa for under
 $1700 retail.  The build list is complete.  So for the time being, the
 Hillborne would have run a little bit more like a budget Hilsen, with
 a bomber wheelset available for loaded touring.  The Hunqa would be a
 comfy city-commute-trail bike with drop bar convertability from the
 other bikes.  The Bomba is going to be a on/off dirt distance bike
 that also can pull my Burley Piccolo.  I would have ordered a 54cm
 Hunqa.  I still might, but it'll be next year at the soonest.  I'll
 probably get that second wheelset all ready regardless.  I want the
 Hillborne svelte for the Grizzly Peak Century.

 How would you have run the Hunqa you are not going to buy tomorrow?

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Re: [RBW] You won't be ordering a Hunqapillar by tomorrow, but....

2010-03-24 Thread James Dinneen
I thought that I had put new bike lust out of my head. However all this talk 
about Hunqa, has made me start to think about how big my bike gap is, 
especially now that one of my kids has take my Trek 950 to use at school. The 
gap seems to be right at this point. I do not need or want suspension but wide 
tires and stout tubes for marginal dirt roads/paths, would be 
nice. Jim D.    Massachusetts

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From: Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] You won't be ordering a Hunqapillar by tomorrow, but
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 3:00 PM


On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:17 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 How would you have run the Hunqa you are not going to buy tomorrow?


It would be my trail bike and offroad tourer. I still ride my MB4, but
it's really too small for me. I have a Crosscheck that doubles as a
commuter and gravel bike, but it's mostly set up as a singlespeed
lately, and my Redwood stays as my fast/long distance road bike. It
would basically serve as the dirt-oriented, geared version of what the
Crosscheck is now. I guess my bike gap for something like the Hunqa is
bigger than yours.

I'd most likely use 45-50cm tires, 1x8 or 1x9 gearing, front dyno
wheel and LED light, maybe mustache bars and a rear rack for my Pa
panniers, along with a deep desire not to turn around and head home
quite yet.

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Re: [RBW] You won't be ordering a Hunqapillar by tomorrow, but....

2010-03-24 Thread cyclotourist
Ha, excellent conversation... I had it pretty well figured out. The Hunq was
going to be my mountain bike.  I'd put my heavy Phil Wood 36^ wheelset on
with Nanoraptors.  I'd need to buy most of the other components though, that
was the deal breaker :-(  I'd keep my AllRounder light wheelset on as is
with fat slick tires (Top Touring 2K 42mm at the moment).  Then have my
roadie  bike (30 miles on it today!) for you know, roadie stuff.  Then I'd
have the Quickbeam, which is getting harder and harder to justify keeping...

But instead I bought a complete used Karate Monkey for half the price of the
Hunq frame by itself.

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:30 PM, James Dinneen jfxdinn...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I thought that I had put new bike lust out of my head. However all this
 talk about Hunqa, has made me start to think about how big my bike gap is,
 especially now that one of my kids has take my Trek 950 to use at school.
 The gap seems to be right at this point. I do not need or want suspension
 but wide tires and stout tubes for marginal dirt roads/paths, would be
 nice. Jim D.Massachusetts

 --- On *Wed, 3/24/10, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com* wrote:


 From: Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [RBW] You won't be ordering a Hunqapillar by tomorrow, but
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 3:00 PM


 On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:17 PM, William 
 tapebu...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc1126.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tapebu...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  How would you have run the Hunqa you are not going to buy tomorrow?


 It would be my trail bike and offroad tourer. I still ride my MB4, but
 it's really too small for me. I have a Crosscheck that doubles as a
 commuter and gravel bike, but it's mostly set up as a singlespeed
 lately, and my Redwood stays as my fast/long distance road bike. It
 would basically serve as the dirt-oriented, geared version of what the
 Crosscheck is now. I guess my bike gap for something like the Hunqa is
 bigger than yours.

 I'd most likely use 45-50cm tires, 1x8 or 1x9 gearing, front dyno
 wheel and LED light, maybe mustache bars and a rear rack for my Pa
 panniers, along with a deep desire not to turn around and head home
 quite yet.

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[RBW] For sale/trade

2010-03-24 Thread scott
Hey all,
 Thought I'd see if anyone out there was interested in a few
things I have taking up space.

-Nitto Rando Bars 45cm. I mounted these, taped em up with cloth, rode
a 70 mile day with them and took em off. They didn't agree with my
elbows. So, they have 70 miles on them. Not a scratch or tape residue.
These are going for around $45 new these days on the internets--I'd
love to trade them for a medium shop sack (canvas, not grid) if anyone
has one. If not, how's $30 shipped? If you've noticed, Nitto stuff is
getting more and more expensive.

--Nitto Promenade bars. Nothin too fancy. Nice upright city bars.
Mountain levers and shifters only. A scratch here and there. $20
shipped.

--MKS Leathered Half-Clips Large. These were too small for my feet. So
they were on my bike to the end of the street and back. Still brand
new, and I didn't treat the leather. Would be great on a classy Betty
Foy. These have gotten pricey too. 25 bones last I checked. How about
$12 Shipped.

--Sugino XD-2 crank arms 175mm. I have these left over from when I
switched my bikes over to 170 arms. They are used and have the beusage
to prove it. But with these cranks, a few scratches don't mean a
thing. Super awesome, just don't use the longs anymore. I'd love to
trade for a pair of the same arms but in a 170mm. If nobody has those
to trade, how about $40 shipped.

--Okay, last one is a long shot I think: Velo Orange Champagne
Handlebar Bag. So I received this as a Christmas gift. I really wanted
a bag like this for a long time. I have been using an Acorn Hobo and
thought I would like this style bag better. Well, I don't it turns
out. I haven't ridden much with this bag and it shows zero wear from
use (it's essentially brand new). I treated the leather bits and
installed a Decaleur mount to it. I will include two 1 1/8 headset
mounts for this bag as well. I would love to trade for a Sackville
Trunksack Small (front lil loafer). But if that doesn't work, how
about $90 shipped with all the extras.

   Scott

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[RBW] Matching bar-wrap to Sam H. accent color.

2010-03-24 Thread Brian

I'd like to match the bar wrap on my new green Hillborne to the
purplish-blue accent color that's on the seat tube. If anyone has done
this, what tape or wrap did you use? Thanks.

Brian

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[RBW] Re: can someone post some Hunqapillar pictures asap?

2010-03-24 Thread Jim M.
Pics of the gray 48 added to the group:

http://www.flickr.com/groups/1358...@n23/pool/

Very pretty! They should have other painted ones by the end of the
week.


On Mar 23, 2:45 pm, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi,

 If possible, can someone get some good shots of the painted
 Hunqapillar at Riv and post them online by tomorrow?  I'm thinking of
 pre-ordering one.  I would particularly like to see some some shots
 aimed at the front of the head tube.

 Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: For sale/trade

2010-03-24 Thread scott
Half-Clips are gone.

On Mar 24, 5:03 pm, scott clankbonesh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey all,
      Thought I'd see if anyone out there was interested in a few
 things I have taking up space.

 -Nitto Rando Bars 45cm. I mounted these, taped em up with cloth, rode
 a 70 mile day with them and took em off. They didn't agree with my
 elbows. So, they have 70 miles on them. Not a scratch or tape residue.
 These are going for around $45 new these days on the internets--I'd
 love to trade them for a medium shop sack (canvas, not grid) if anyone
 has one. If not, how's $30 shipped? If you've noticed, Nitto stuff is
 getting more and more expensive.

 --Nitto Promenade bars. Nothin too fancy. Nice upright city bars.
 Mountain levers and shifters only. A scratch here and there. $20
 shipped.

 --MKS Leathered Half-Clips Large. These were too small for my feet. So
 they were on my bike to the end of the street and back. Still brand
 new, and I didn't treat the leather. Would be great on a classy Betty
 Foy. These have gotten pricey too. 25 bones last I checked. How about
 $12 Shipped.

 --Sugino XD-2 crank arms 175mm. I have these left over from when I
 switched my bikes over to 170 arms. They are used and have the beusage
 to prove it. But with these cranks, a few scratches don't mean a
 thing. Super awesome, just don't use the longs anymore. I'd love to
 trade for a pair of the same arms but in a 170mm. If nobody has those
 to trade, how about $40 shipped.

 --Okay, last one is a long shot I think: Velo Orange Champagne
 Handlebar Bag. So I received this as a Christmas gift. I really wanted
 a bag like this for a long time. I have been using an Acorn Hobo and
 thought I would like this style bag better. Well, I don't it turns
 out. I haven't ridden much with this bag and it shows zero wear from
 use (it's essentially brand new). I treated the leather bits and
 installed a Decaleur mount to it. I will include two 1 1/8 headset
 mounts for this bag as well. I would love to trade for a Sackville
 Trunksack Small (front lil loafer). But if that doesn't work, how
 about $90 shipped with all the extras.

    Scott

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[RBW] Re: can someone post some Hunqapillar pictures asap?

2010-03-24 Thread Michael_S
Data loooka berry nice!!  Now I'm beginning to re-think my decision to
keep the 29er this Hunka would be a great looking and riding trail
bike.  I like the single tube version personally and according to GP I
should ride the 54 like him.  H?

~Mike~

On Mar 24, 3:14 pm, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pics of the gray 48 added to the group:

 http://www.flickr.com/groups/1358...@n23/pool/

 Very pretty! They should have other painted ones by the end of the
 week.

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  Hi,

  If possible, can someone get some good shots of the painted
  Hunqapillar at Riv and post them online by tomorrow?  I'm thinking of
  pre-ordering one.  I would particularly like to see some some shots
  aimed at the front of the head tube.

  Thanks.- Hide quoted text -

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[RBW] hunqapillar

2010-03-24 Thread dpco
i have to start off by saying that i am an owner of a riv
bike( roadeo ). i totally respect rivendell. what type of bike is the
hunqapallar? i look at some of the pictures and  think its' a
mountain bike.
don c.

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[RBW] Re: hunqapillar

2010-03-24 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I like that Rivendell doesn't try to tightly constrain their bikes to
specific categories like mountain bike. But, yes, given the fat tire
clearance and sturdy construction, mountain bike is one possible use
for the Hunqapillar. I'm sure some will set them up for road touring,
commuting, brevets, etc.

On Mar 24, 7:45 pm, dpco dcompton1...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 i have to start off by saying that i am an owner of a riv
 bike( roadeo ). i totally respect rivendell. what type of bike is the
 hunqapallar? i look at some of the pictures and  think its' a
 mountain bike.
 don c.

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Mystery Bib Idea

2010-03-24 Thread EricP
Actually, Rapha did that with a limited edition.  Actually looked
strange/cool.  But out of my price comfort zone.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Mar 24, 9:27�am, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote:
 Just got the Riv Reader CDs in the mail, and low and behold, RR1 -
 page 3 - makes it official; Grant has been holding this idea back for
 way too long. Must have been eating him up inside all this time. I
 vote for a version with a full size French newspaper reprint on the
 front. Something from le Tour perhaps?

 http://tinyurl.com/ygouldz

 On Mar 20, 1:52�am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:



  Did I call it or what? Quoted from the original thread:

  Gernot (gloating's my middle name) Huber

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  From: Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com
  Date: Mar 6, 11:58 pm
  Subject: Rivendell's Mystery Item?
  To: RBW Owners Bunch

  Okay,

  this is actually a (semi-)serious entry: a windbreaker that consists
  only of the front torso section of a typical windbreaker, with loops
  to go around the neck, the arms, and the waist, to hold it in place.
  Sorta an upscale manufactured version of the old bike racer's trick of
  sliding a newspaper under his jersey front in cold weather...

  Gernot

  On Mar 19, 9:59�pm, Scott G. sco...@primax.com wrote:
   Same idea without the lobster motif.
   Saw it reviewed on some cycling site a couple years ago.

  http://www.thewarmfront.com/main.html

   Rapha sold a gillet a few years ago with Gazzetta del Sport printed on
   it, fun idea.

   Whilst 
   googling.http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/360/19241/ITEM/Schampa-Chest...-
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[RBW] Re: You won't be ordering a Hunqapillar by tomorrow, but....

2010-03-24 Thread EricP
Well, I _am_ on the list for one.  Just haven't finalized my build,
yet.  It will be for all rounder riding (like my other two bikes).
With maybe a bit more emphasis on the dirt.

It's also giving me an excuse to (a) build a rear wheel; (b) use a
Phil freewheel hub, neither of which have done before.

But don't want to say much more, as that would be giving away the
endingG.

Eric Plat
St. Paul, MN

On Mar 24, 4:54�pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ha, excellent conversation... I had it pretty well figured out. The Hunq was
 going to be my mountain bike. �I'd put my heavy Phil Wood 36^ wheelset on
 with Nanoraptors. �I'd need to buy most of the other components though, that
 was the deal breaker :-( �I'd keep my AllRounder light wheelset on as is
 with fat slick tires (Top Touring 2K 42mm at the moment). �Then have my
 roadie �bike (30 miles on it today!) for you know, roadie stuff. �Then I'd
 have the Quickbeam, which is getting harder and harder to justify keeping...

 But instead I bought a complete used Karate Monkey for half the price of the
 Hunq frame by itself.





 On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:30 PM, James Dinneen jfxdinn...@yahoo.com wrote:
  I thought that I had put new bike lust out of my head. However all this
  talk about Hunqa, has made me start to think about how big my bike gap is,
  especially now that one of my kids has take my Trek 950 to use at school.
  The gap seems to be right at this point. I do not need or want suspension
  but wide tires and stout tubes for marginal dirt roads/paths, would be
  nice. � � � � � � � � � � � � � � Jim D. � � � � � � � � � �Massachusetts

  --- On *Wed, 3/24/10, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com* wrote:

  From: Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: [RBW] You won't be ordering a Hunqapillar by tomorrow, but
  To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
  Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 3:00 PM

  On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:17 PM, William 
  tapebu...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc1126.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tapebu...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   How would you have run the Hunqa you are not going to buy tomorrow?

  It would be my trail bike and offroad tourer. I still ride my MB4, but
  it's really too small for me. I have a Crosscheck that doubles as a
  commuter and gravel bike, but it's mostly set up as a singlespeed
  lately, and my Redwood stays as my fast/long distance road bike. It
  would basically serve as the dirt-oriented, geared version of what the
  Crosscheck is now. I guess my bike gap for something like the Hunqa is
  bigger than yours.

  I'd most likely use 45-50cm tires, 1x8 or 1x9 gearing, front dyno
  wheel and LED light, maybe mustache bars and a rear rack for my Pa
  panniers, along with a deep desire not to turn around and head home
  quite yet.

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[RBW] Re: Child seat recommendations?

2010-03-24 Thread Weird Harold

Just an update - I bought the bobike. Took my daughter out on it
today, and she loved it. She kept saying More, More! Thanks for all
of the advice.

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Re: [RBW] You won't be ordering a Hunqapillar by tomorrow, but....

2010-03-24 Thread James Warren

I really don't need a bike, but my Hunqupillar plan would be mountain bike. And 
just like Bill, I currently ride an MB-4 offroad even though it's only 55 cm. 
(My other bikes are 62, 64, 65 cm.) But I don't think I can bring myself to 
replace my MB-4 as the dedicated knobby offroader. I've been enjoying it since 
1991 when it was new. (Now its purple.) Still my favorite Bridgestone ever.

-Jim W.

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On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:17 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 How would you have run the Hunqa you are not going to buy tomorrow?


It would be my trail bike and offroad tourer. I still ride my MB4, but
it's really too small for me. I have a Crosscheck that doubles as a
commuter and gravel bike, but it's mostly set up as a singlespeed
lately, and my Redwood stays as my fast/long distance road bike. It
would basically serve as the dirt-oriented, geared version of what the
Crosscheck is now. I guess my bike gap for something like the Hunqa is
bigger than yours.

I'd most likely use 45-50cm tires, 1x8 or 1x9 gearing, front dyno
wheel and LED light, maybe mustache bars and a rear rack for my Pa
panniers, along with a deep desire not to turn around and head home
quite yet.

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[RBW] Re: You won't be ordering a Hunqapillar by tomorrow, but....

2010-03-24 Thread Earl Grey
Hhm,

I would be tempted *if* the smaller sizes had 650B wheels (but I agree
with Grant that 26 makes more sense to round out the product line). I
got a 56cm Sam and thus it has 700C wheels, and I *really* want some
Grand Bois Hetres on one of my bikes. So I'd get a Bomba instead of a
Hunqa, except I can't afford a Bomba. My next bike will probably be a
650B low trail (maybe the Kogswell offspring in the works from Long
Leaf Cycles) and will be set up for load carrying and will eventually
sport a child seat or two (1st baby due in September!)

Gernot


On Mar 25, 8:15 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote:
 Well, I _am_ on the list for one.  Just haven't finalized my build,
 yet.  It will be for all rounder riding (like my other two bikes).
 With maybe a bit more emphasis on the dirt.

 It's also giving me an excuse to (a) build a rear wheel; (b) use a
 Phil freewheel hub, neither of which have done before.

 But don't want to say much more, as that would be giving away the
 endingG.

 Eric Plat
 St. Paul, MN

 On Mar 24, 4:54 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:



  Ha, excellent conversation... I had it pretty well figured out. The Hunq was
  going to be my mountain bike. I'd put my heavy Phil Wood 36^ wheelset on
  with Nanoraptors. I'd need to buy most of the other components though, that
  was the deal breaker :-( I'd keep my AllRounder light wheelset on as is
  with fat slick tires (Top Touring 2K 42mm at the moment). Then have my
  roadie bike (30 miles on it today!) for you know, roadie stuff. Then I'd
  have the Quickbeam, which is getting harder and harder to justify keeping...

  But instead I bought a complete used Karate Monkey for half the price of the
  Hunq frame by itself.

  On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:30 PM, James Dinneen jfxdinn...@yahoo.com wrote:
   I thought that I had put new bike lust out of my head. However all this
   talk about Hunqa, has made me start to think about how big my bike gap is,
   especially now that one of my kids has take my Trek 950 to use at school.
   The gap seems to be right at this point. I do not need or want suspension
   but wide tires and stout tubes for marginal dirt roads/paths, would be
   nice. Jim D. Massachusetts

   --- On *Wed, 3/24/10, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com* wrote:

   From: Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com
   Subject: Re: [RBW] You won't be ordering a Hunqapillar by tomorrow, 
   but
   To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
   Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 3:00 PM

   On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:17 PM, William 
   tapebu...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc1126.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tapebu...@gmail.com
   wrote:
How would you have run the Hunqa you are not going to buy tomorrow?

   It would be my trail bike and offroad tourer. I still ride my MB4, but
   it's really too small for me. I have a Crosscheck that doubles as a
   commuter and gravel bike, but it's mostly set up as a singlespeed
   lately, and my Redwood stays as my fast/long distance road bike. It
   would basically serve as the dirt-oriented, geared version of what the
   Crosscheck is now. I guess my bike gap for something like the Hunqa is
   bigger than yours.

   I'd most likely use 45-50cm tires, 1x8 or 1x9 gearing, front dyno
   wheel and LED light, maybe mustache bars and a rear rack for my Pa
   panniers, along with a deep desire not to turn around and head home
   quite yet.

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[RBW] Re: Child seat recommendations?

2010-03-24 Thread Earl Grey
John,

for the companion carrier, do you recommend a horizontal top tube, and
a relatively high one at that? The bike I have now that I'd mount it
on has a low, sloping top tube (http://www.flickr.com/photos/
25150...@n08/4439614745/) but if I bought a new bike for a grocery/kid
hauler, I'd like to know what works best for the companion carrier or
similar seats.

Cheers,

Gernot


On Mar 22, 3:57 am, John Speare johnspe...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Glenn Ammons glenn.amm...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Weird Harold alanpcr...@yahoo.com wrote:

   Any one tried the iBert?

  That's what we use.  It's great having my daughter right up front
  (although recently she's into whacking her head into my chest and
  giggling maniacally) and I can pedal normally without my knees hitting
  the seat.  Standing is more of a challenge but doable with a bit of
  cooperation from my daughter.

 Our (now 7 year old) daughter has been on just about every type of kid
 hauling except a trail-a-bike over the years. (We did try a trail a
 bike once and neither of us liked it).

 She started out in a Burley solo when she was just over a year or so.
 She never really liked it and by the time she was 2.5 years or so, she
 just flat out refused to ride in it. Which makes sense when you think
 about it: she's alone in a little cell and riding directly over the
 axel of the cart, which makes for a pretty jarring ride. Since she
 started so young, the novelity of being in a cart behind a bike never
 really hit her. In fact, she looked forward to taking rides in the car
 seat.

 When my daughter was about 3, my wife took her to Italy for a month to
 visit with family -- while there, they bought a segilino -- a
 front-mount seat:http://johndogfood.com/john/reduced/06-12-06%20051.jpg

 That was always my daughter's favorite solution. She loved it and so
 did my wife. Mainly because it was a much more active role: she can
 see where she's going, she can do hand signals, ring the bell, and
 chat with mom. The American versions of the same solution are
 unfortunately much less elegant and way over-built in my opinon.

 From there, we got a companion carrier -- which mounts directly to the
 top tube and therefore holds more weight.
 pics here --http://johndogfood.com/john/mb2.html
  We enjoyed trail riding and my daughter would still ride on this if I
 let her. But she's got to go under her own power now... ;unless  we're
 tooling around locally to breakfast or something, then I'll give her a
 quick free ride on the front of my cargo 
 truck:http://cyclingspokane.blogspot.com/2010/02/kid-haulin.html

 We tried a rear-mount seat but didn't like it at all. I found that
 having dynamic weight that high above the rear wheel behind me was
 distracting and my daughter wasn't crazy about staring at the back of
 my helmet.

 She rode on the deck of our xtracycle too -- for short trips, but she
 was never hugley crazy about that either. A friend of mine borrowed my
 xtracycle for a couple years and his kids loved riding on the deck --
 so it may work for some kids. Hauling kids on the deck of a long bike
 is pretty effortless for tooling around.

 When my daughter was about 4 or 5, we got a Bike Friday tandem. That
 ruled. And we rode it for a couple years. We did bike camping on it,
 and we commuted to her preschool every day. Pics 
 here:http://johndogfood.com/john/BF.html

 Now my daughter prefers to ride her own bike. The tandem was great but
 took up way too much room in our small garage for how infrequently we
 rode it.

 The net for me was that when she was young enough, the front-mount
 seat was great. It's a shame that smaller/less complicated/less turdy
 front-seat-solutions are so hard to find in the American market. In my
 opinion, the big honking plastic molded car-seat looking seats that
 are sold here are just overbuilt and too big for the task at hand.

 The companion carrier can be found with google searching and phone
 calling though.

 John Speare
 Spokane, WA USAhttp://cyclingspokane.blogspot.com/

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[RBW] Re: hunqapillar

2010-03-24 Thread dpco
thanks for your reply. i am strictly a road rider. i foolishly, sold
my 60cm ram frameset, and later, bought a roadeo. i actually like the
roadeo much more. living in lodi,ca., its easy for me to travel over
to walnut creek and rbw headquarters. i was lucky. i e-mailed keven
that i was coming over to buy a new roadeo frameset and when i got
there i got to talk to grant for awhile. they had this unpainted 59cm
roadeo( my size ). grant helped with paint colors and we settled on
mary's blue. its' a pale blue with a gold metallic overspray. the
overspray gives the color a pale, retro color. i am getting a new
camera and will be posting pics. anyway, whatever model of riv that
fits your fancy, chances are you'll be amazed how it fits the need.
sincerely, don

On Mar 24, 5:56 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com
wrote:
 I like that Rivendell doesn't try to tightly constrain their bikes to
 specific categories like mountain bike. But, yes, given the fat tire
 clearance and sturdy construction, mountain bike is one possible use
 for the Hunqapillar. I'm sure some will set them up for road touring,
 commuting, brevets, etc.

 On Mar 24, 7:45 pm, dpco dcompton1...@sbcglobal.net wrote:



  i have to start off by saying that i am an owner of a riv
  bike( roadeo ). i totally respect rivendell. what type of bike is the
  hunqapallar? i look at some of the pictures and  think its' a
  mountain bike.
  don c.

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[RBW] Re: hunqapillar

2010-03-24 Thread happyriding
On Mar 24, 6:45 pm, dpco dcompton1...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 i have to start off by saying that i am an owner of a riv
 bike( roadeo ). i totally respect rivendell. what type of bike is the
 hunqapallar? i look at some of the pictures and  think its' a
 mountain bike.
 don c.

For me, the Hunqapillar represents a fully loaded touring bike that
comes in a large size frame.  For some reason, Rivendell stopped
making the Atlantis in the large sizes.  Frames as large as 68cm have
a tendency to be too flexy, and the double top tube on a Hunqapillar
should make the large size frames much sturdier.   Another way to
build sturdier large sized frames is to use tubes with larger
diameters, but then you probably have to build custom lugs to
accommodate those fatter tubes.  I don't know what considerations
prompted Rivendell to go with the double top tube instead of fatter
tubes.   Personally, I thought the double top tube bikes were really
ugly when I first saw them.  But I've seen some Bombadil's that I
really like.  Check out Renee's beautiful Bombadil:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/sets/72157622958472288/

Comparing the geometries of a 60cm Bombadil and a 62cm(the biggest)
Hunqapillar, there is not much difference.  The chainstays are 46.5
and 46(Hunqapillar), and the theoretical top tube is 63 v. 62.5
cm(Hunqapillar).  The most significant difference in my mind is the
bottom bracket drop: 7 v. 8 cm(Hunqapillar). That is evidence that
the Bombadil is more mountain bike than the Hunqapillar.  But maybe
someone who has toured with a fully loaded Bombadil can comment on
whether they felt that the 7 cm bottom bracket drop was too high or
not.

By the way, if you haven't ridden a modern full suspension mountain
bike, then you are really missing out.  I would much rather buy a real
mountain bike than a Bombadil for mountain biking.  But if you only
want to buy one bike, and you want to ride single track and and ride
on the road with it...

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[RBW] Re: Riv goes Paleo

2010-03-24 Thread manueljohnacosta
I love discussions like this! Reminds me of my college classes.

william- thanks for the heads up. I was totally distracted by Grant
doing pull ups that I didn't notice the frame!

On Mar 23, 5:05 pm, Calm54 mukum...@gmail.com wrote:
 I bought the Primal Blueprint from Rivendell a couple of months ago
 and it makes sense.  It is not necessarily just low carb, it wants you
 to eat plenty of fruits and vegetables,and of course, good quality
 meats and nuts.  Plus it prescribes exercise but not over the top
 workouts.  I started to implement it a month ago and I have lost some
 weight and my energy levels are up. Food for thought. pun intended.

 On Mar 23, 5:00 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:



  Knowing and doing are two different things.  Most (all?) smokers know it's 
  killing them, but they smoke anyway.

  Add to that our ridiculous American serving sizes, and it's not too hard to 
  figure out why there's an obesity epidemic.

  --Eric
  campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.org

  On Mar 23, 2010, at 4:26 PM, Dustin Sharp wrote:

   Sounds pretty simple, but I wonder why we as a nation keep getting fatter
   and fatter when we all know how to do the opposite?

   Seems more accurate to say that we Americans all know how to get fat and
   unhealthy on the Standard American Industrial Diet, but a few people have
   figured out that by eating real food and staying active, it's possible to
   stay relatively healthy.

   It blows my mind when I walk into a mainstream grocery store how little 
   real
   food there actually is.

   Eat a variety of healthy whole foods and exercise regularly -
   everybody knows how to do that, and what it looks like, tastes like
   and feels like.

   Yep, that's it. Now... how do we market that big idea? :)

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[RBW] Re: hunqapillar

2010-03-24 Thread Michael Gordon
Happyriding - where did you find the geometry information for the
Hunqapillar?

 Comparing the geometries of a 60cm Bombadil and a 62cm(the biggest)
 Hunqapillar, there is not much difference.  The chainstays are 46.5
 and 46(Hunqapillar), and the theoretical top tube is 63 v. 62.5
 cm(Hunqapillar).  The most significant difference in my mind is the
 bottom bracket drop: 7 v. 8 cm(Hunqapillar).     ...

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[RBW] Re: You won't be ordering a Hunqapillar by tomorrow, but....

2010-03-24 Thread William
Gernot

I just picked up my 56cm Bombadil to complement my 56cm Sam
Hillborne.  I already have a brand new set of brick red Hetres for
it.  The build starts this weekend.  Please don't hate me.  I promise
to post pictures.

Bill

On Mar 24, 6:48 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hhm,

 I would be tempted *if* the smaller sizes had 650B wheels (but I agree
 with Grant that 26 makes more sense to round out the product line). I
 got a 56cm Sam and thus it has 700C wheels, and I *really* want some
 Grand Bois Hetres on one of my bikes. So I'd get a Bomba instead of a
 Hunqa, except I can't afford a Bomba. My next bike will probably be a
 650B low trail (maybe the Kogswell offspring in the works from Long
 Leaf Cycles) and will be set up for load carrying and will eventually
 sport a child seat or two (1st baby due in September!)

 Gernot

 On Mar 25, 8:15 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote:



  Well, I _am_ on the list for one.  Just haven't finalized my build,
  yet.  It will be for all rounder riding (like my other two bikes).
  With maybe a bit more emphasis on the dirt.

  It's also giving me an excuse to (a) build a rear wheel; (b) use a
  Phil freewheel hub, neither of which have done before.

  But don't want to say much more, as that would be giving away the
  endingG.

  Eric Plat
  St. Paul, MN

  On Mar 24, 4:54 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

   Ha, excellent conversation... I had it pretty well figured out. The Hunq 
   was
   going to be my mountain bike. I'd put my heavy Phil Wood 36^ wheelset on
   with Nanoraptors. I'd need to buy most of the other components though, 
   that
   was the deal breaker :-( I'd keep my AllRounder light wheelset on as is
   with fat slick tires (Top Touring 2K 42mm at the moment). Then have my
   roadie bike (30 miles on it today!) for you know, roadie stuff. Then I'd
   have the Quickbeam, which is getting harder and harder to justify 
   keeping...

   But instead I bought a complete used Karate Monkey for half the price of 
   the
   Hunq frame by itself.

   On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:30 PM, James Dinneen jfxdinn...@yahoo.com 
   wrote:
I thought that I had put new bike lust out of my head. However all 
this
talk about Hunqa, has made me start to think about how big my bike gap 
is,
especially now that one of my kids has take my Trek 950 to use at 
school.
The gap seems to be right at this point. I do not need or want 
suspension
but wide tires and stout tubes for marginal dirt roads/paths, would be
nice. Jim D. Massachusetts

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From: Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] You won't be ordering a Hunqapillar by tomorrow, 
but
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 3:00 PM

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:17 PM, William 
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 How would you have run the Hunqa you are not going to buy tomorrow?

It would be my trail bike and offroad tourer. I still ride my MB4, but
it's really too small for me. I have a Crosscheck that doubles as a
commuter and gravel bike, but it's mostly set up as a singlespeed
lately, and my Redwood stays as my fast/long distance road bike. It
would basically serve as the dirt-oriented, geared version of what the
Crosscheck is now. I guess my bike gap for something like the Hunqa is
bigger than yours.

I'd most likely use 45-50cm tires, 1x8 or 1x9 gearing, front dyno
wheel and LED light, maybe mustache bars and a rear rack for my Pa
panniers, along with a deep desire not to turn around and head home
quite yet.

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Re: [RBW] Re: You won't be ordering a Hunqapillar by tomorrow, but....

2010-03-24 Thread cyclotourist
Too cool!  That'll be two nice bikes in the garage!  What's the direction of
the build going to be like?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:55 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Gernot

 I just picked up my 56cm Bombadil to complement my 56cm Sam
 Hillborne.  I already have a brand new set of brick red Hetres for
 it.  The build starts this weekend.  Please don't hate me.  I promise
 to post pictures.

 Bill

 On Mar 24, 6:48 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hhm,
 
  I would be tempted *if* the smaller sizes had 650B wheels (but I agree
  with Grant that 26 makes more sense to round out the product line). I
  got a 56cm Sam and thus it has 700C wheels, and I *really* want some
  Grand Bois Hetres on one of my bikes. So I'd get a Bomba instead of a
  Hunqa, except I can't afford a Bomba. My next bike will probably be a
  650B low trail (maybe the Kogswell offspring in the works from Long
  Leaf Cycles) and will be set up for load carrying and will eventually
  sport a child seat or two (1st baby due in September!)
 
  Gernot
 
  On Mar 25, 8:15 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote:
 
 
 
   Well, I _am_ on the list for one.  Just haven't finalized my build,
   yet.  It will be for all rounder riding (like my other two bikes).
   With maybe a bit more emphasis on the dirt.
 
   It's also giving me an excuse to (a) build a rear wheel; (b) use a
   Phil freewheel hub, neither of which have done before.
 
   But don't want to say much more, as that would be giving away the
   endingG.
 
   Eric Plat
   St. Paul, MN
 
   On Mar 24, 4:54 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
 
Ha, excellent conversation... I had it pretty well figured out. The
 Hunq was
going to be my mountain bike. I'd put my heavy Phil Wood 36^
 wheelset on
with Nanoraptors. I'd need to buy most of the other components
 though, that
was the deal breaker :-( I'd keep my AllRounder light wheelset on
 as is
with fat slick tires (Top Touring 2K 42mm at the moment). Then have
 my
roadie bike (30 miles on it today!) for you know, roadie stuff. Then
 I'd
have the Quickbeam, which is getting harder and harder to justify
 keeping...
 
But instead I bought a complete used Karate Monkey for half the price
 of the
Hunq frame by itself.
 
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:30 PM, James Dinneen jfxdinn...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 I thought that I had put new bike lust out of my head. However
 all this
 talk about Hunqa, has made me start to think about how big my bike
 gap is,
 especially now that one of my kids has take my Trek 950 to use at
 school.
 The gap seems to be right at this point. I do not need or want
 suspension
 but wide tires and stout tubes for marginal dirt roads/paths, would
 be
 nice. Jim D. Massachusetts
 
 --- On *Wed, 3/24/10, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com* wrote:
 
 From: Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [RBW] You won't be ordering a Hunqapillar by tomorrow,
 but
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 3:00 PM
 
 On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:17 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com
 http://us.mc1126.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tapebu...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  How would you have run the Hunqa you are not going to buy
 tomorrow?
 
 It would be my trail bike and offroad tourer. I still ride my MB4,
 but
 it's really too small for me. I have a Crosscheck that doubles as a
 commuter and gravel bike, but it's mostly set up as a singlespeed
 lately, and my Redwood stays as my fast/long distance road bike. It
 would basically serve as the dirt-oriented, geared version of what
 the
 Crosscheck is now. I guess my bike gap for something like the Hunqa
 is
 bigger than yours.
 
 I'd most likely use 45-50cm tires, 1x8 or 1x9 gearing, front dyno
 wheel and LED light, maybe mustache bars and a rear rack for my Pa
 panniers, along with a deep desire not to turn around and head home
 quite yet.
 
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 St. Paul, MN
 
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[RBW] Re: hunqapillar

2010-03-24 Thread happyriding
On Mar 24, 10:34 pm, Michael Gordon meisengor...@sbcglobal.net
wrote:
 Happyriding - where did you find the geometry information for the
 Hunqapillar?


I called Rivendell.  I don't know why that don't make it available on
the internet.

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[RBW] Re: Portland, OR shops

2010-03-24 Thread Beth H
Okay, all you Riv-heads need to let me know when the rolling party is.
Seriously, this is beginning to sound like too much fun, and if it's
during a work day I want to make sure I'm covered in advance. --Beth

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[RBW] Re: Child seat recommendations?

2010-03-24 Thread RonLau
This is what I have for my 17 months old

http://www.flickr.com/photos/boxdogbikes/4420617827/

works great, he gets to see more than a trailer for sure.



On Mar 19, 7:38 am, Weird Harold alanpcr...@yahoo.com wrote:
 My daughter is 21 months, and I think it's time to get her up on a
 bike with me. Any recommendations for child bike seats? Front or Rear?

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[RBW] Re: Portland, OR shops

2010-03-24 Thread Rick
Reading this exchange out loud to my wife has made us feel like we're
going home, even though we've never lived there.

November will not happen fast enough, but we'll be going up later on
this spring via Amtrak to check out neighborhoods; that way, we can
zero in on looking for apartments later...

Rose City! Wow!

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Re: [RBW] Portland, OR shops

2010-03-24 Thread David Faller
I certainly appreciate all the recommendations.  However, I'm not even 
bringing a bike!  My daughter is touring colleges, and we're just 
generally scoping out the area.  There seems to be a movement brewing, 
but I won't even be able to participate, other than a possible visit to 
a bike shop or two (and as many brew pubs as my wife will tolerate!)


Dave

On 3/23/2010 5:31 PM, Dave in Redding wrote:

I've never spend any appreciable time in Portland, Oregon, and I am
going for a few days.  I can, of course, Google 'bike shops in
Portland'; but I'd like to know from the Riv crowd if there are any
don't miss shops, given our bikestyle.  Suggestions?

   


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