[RBW] Re: Mudflaps - inside fender or outside fender?

2010-06-10 Thread John McMurry
On Jun 10, 12:00 am, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.com wrote:
 Simple question for once!

 Which is more functional (if either)?

It's a wash.  Outside mounting allows a wider flap, theoretically
stopping more of the splash when hitting puddles.
Inside mounting follows the tire radius, reducing the trajectory of a
splash.

 Which is more classic (as done in the past)?

Leather flaps look more classic, but supposedly weren't used much in
the past.  More typical were thinner, rubber mudflaps, mounted inside
the fender from what I have seen and read.

 Which is preferable?

For a thick, leather mudflap such as the VO; I think you'll be better
off mounting it on the outside of the fender.  The thick, leather
ridge would accumulate debris and would also lessen tire/fender
clearance when mounted inside the fender.

John McMurry
Burlington, VT

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[RBW] Re: New-to-me Quickbeam frame/fork pics

2010-06-10 Thread Lee
Hi all. I just wanted to follow-up with pics of my finished
Quickbeam. I expect it'll undergo some tweaks over the next month or
two. Right now, I'm using it as my commuter, but I hope to start
taking it out for some long rides pretty soon. It's in 650B-mode with
an old set of Nifty Swiftys. I have it geared 41x16/19 for 67/56 gear
inches on the freewheel side, and 41x16 on the fixed side. I've ridden
it free for two commutes and fixed for one. It'll be interesting to
see on which side the coin lands. I find both styles of riding fun. My
main focus right now is getting a feel for the geometry and dialing in
the fit.

The only problem I have with it is after getting into work, I spend
the first half-hour thinking about the ride in--okay, maybe more than
a half-hour.

Thanks for everyone's input!
Lee

Right after finishing:
http://tinyurl.com/2eqllb5

On the mixed-mode commute:
http://tinyurl.com/2a3zk78

Full Flickr set of the build-up:
http://tinyurl.com/2ctq33t



On May 20, 10:27 am, Lee leec...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi everyone. I just joined this group, though I've been lurking for a
 while. Yesterday, through a fast and fortunate series of events, I
 picked up a used Quickbeam frame/fork/extras. Here's a small Flickr
 set:

 http://tinyurl.com/2ctq33t

 I'm currently mulling over drivetrain ideas and would be happy to hear
 suggestions or experiences. Currently, I'm thinking I'll do fixed/free
 for a while to get used to the bike. Then, make changes as needed.

 Best,
 Lee
 SF, CA

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[RBW] Re: Mudflaps - inside fender or outside fender?

2010-06-10 Thread Mike
There was an article in an old issue of Bicycle Quarterly about
mounting leather flaps inside the fender. This is for folks using
aluminum fenders. You can check their back issue index for finding the
article. But with a VO flap or Riv Sackville flap it needs to go
outside. I have the VO flaps on my commuter, they're great. I like the
looks of the Sackville more and they're lighter and have the
reflective strip on them.

--mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tektro CR720s on a Quickbeam

2010-06-10 Thread clyde canter
I replace the front brakes on my Hillborne with the 720s a while back in an
attempt to eliminate loud squealing I was getting with Tekro Oryxes.  I got
the squeal squelched but I find the braking power somewhat less than the
Oryx, which doesn't make sense, as everything I've heard gives wide profile,
high straddle wire cantis more advantage over the narrower ones.  It's not a
huge difference, but it definitely resulted in somewhat less stopping
power.  I am so happy to be rid of the squeal/ honking and so weary from
swapping pads that I dare not mess with it any further.
I personally like the look of the Oryx brakes much much better.
Clyde Canter
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Philip Williamson 
philip.william...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for these suggestions - I have V-brakes on my Bontrager with
 drops, and I love them. If I can't adjust the Tektros to be
 significantly better than the stock brakes, I'll just buy new pads for
 them and put them back on.

 The nice part of tracking the 'tinking' sound to the brakes was that
 now my saddle rails, seatpost and cranks are all greased and tight.

 I will try lowering the yoke on the front, and I'll toe the brakes
 more dramatically. I feel bad now for watching a CX race and wondering
 what's wrong with these people's brakes/mechanics? because 65% of
 the them would come diving into a turn with their forks going
 gackgackgackgackgack. Now that's me.

  Philip
 97128


 MikeC wrote:
  I have the same issue with my Hillborne. I assume they use the same
  studs as the QB. The problem is more radial slop than length-wise slop
  as was previously mentioned. I had terrible brake shudder, because
  when the brakes hit the rim, the cantis would rotate enough on the
  stud to remove the little bit of toe-in that they had when not
  engaged. I ended up re-postioning the pads with a lot of toe-in and
  that solved the problem. Other than that issue, which I'm not sure is
  due to the under sized stud or oversized brake bushing, I love the
  CR720s.
 
  On Jun 9, 10:06 am, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote:-
   On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Philip Williamson
  
  
  
  
  
   philip.william...@gmail.com wrote:
I just changed out the stock Quickbeam brakes for Tektro CR720s, a
presumable upgrade.
  
However, the brakes have fore-aft play on the canti bosses, and make
 a
'tank'ing noise when plucked. The bike makes the exact same noise
 when
I jink to the left.
  
So the bosses seem a shade too long for the brakes, both front and
rear
  
Has anyone else noticed this with the CR720?
Should I add a thin washer under the nut? Under the brake?
Is this the reason I get brake chatter on the front, or is that the
pads still being brand new?
Would moving the spring-end to the tighter hole keep the brakes from
rattling as much?
  
Also, regarding braking power, they seem the same as the old brakes.
They're high profile, so I've got a high cable yoke. It can't get
 much
higher. I want a stronger front brake with a higher yoke, since I
can't lower the stock low-profile brake's yoke any further, due to
 the
M12's mounting rod.
  
   Have you considered V-brakes? I tried the CR720 on my Quickbeam for a
   couple of years too, but recently switched to Avid Single Digit
   V-brakes (requires different levers or a Travel Agent). They do have a
   lot of stopping power.
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Mudflaps - inside fender or outside fender?

2010-06-10 Thread rswatson
I use inside mounting. Am I the only one? I zip-tie the leather flap  
to an appropriately sized piece of plastic (credit card works great)  
and snap the plastic bit inside the metal fender between the rolled  
edges. Secure, quick release, no fender modification needed. Zip tie  
is just for insurance. Friction usually holds it between the plastic  
card and the fender just fine.


Cheers,
Ryan




On Jun 10, 2010, at 7:31, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:


There was an article in an old issue of Bicycle Quarterly about
mounting leather flaps inside the fender. This is for folks using
aluminum fenders. You can check their back issue index for finding the
article. But with a VO flap or Riv Sackville flap it needs to go
outside. I have the VO flaps on my commuter, they're great. I like the
looks of the Sackville more and they're lighter and have the
reflective strip on them.

--mike

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[RBW] Re: Mudflaps - inside fender or outside fender?

2010-06-10 Thread amoll68
Just piling on to concur with what's been said. Generally, I think the
thick leather needs to be mounted outside for clearance reasons (in
most applications.) Looks fine, and works great. If you've got plenty
of clearance, inside mounting would be fine, too.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/39151...@n07/4222398641/in/set-72157622960003171/

Thin rubber mounted inside seems to be more classic/traditional. It
does look good, too.

Alex, near very rainy Seattle . . .

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[RBW] Re: New-to-me Quickbeam frame/fork pics

2010-06-10 Thread Esteban
I love everything about this bike.  Especially the color.  Very smart
choices on the build.  I like the reverse levers on the m'bars.

If you can set it up next your your desk, you can just stare at it all
day!

That's what I would do :)

Esteban
San Diego, Calif.

On Jun 10, 6:21 am, Lee leec...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all. I just wanted to follow-up with pics of my finished
 Quickbeam. I expect it'll undergo some tweaks over the next month or
 two. Right now, I'm using it as my commuter, but I hope to start
 taking it out for some long rides pretty soon. It's in 650B-mode with
 an old set of Nifty Swiftys. I have it geared 41x16/19 for 67/56 gear
 inches on the freewheel side, and 41x16 on the fixed side. I've ridden
 it free for two commutes and fixed for one. It'll be interesting to
 see on which side the coin lands. I find both styles of riding fun. My
 main focus right now is getting a feel for the geometry and dialing in
 the fit.

 The only problem I have with it is after getting into work, I spend
 the first half-hour thinking about the ride in--okay, maybe more than
 a half-hour.

 Thanks for everyone's input!
 Lee

 Right after finishing:http://tinyurl.com/2eqllb5

 On the mixed-mode commute:http://tinyurl.com/2a3zk78

 Full Flickr set of the build-up:http://tinyurl.com/2ctq33t

 On May 20, 10:27 am, Lee leec...@gmail.com wrote:



  Hi everyone. I just joined this group, though I've been lurking for a
  while. Yesterday, through a fast and fortunate series of events, I
  picked up a used Quickbeam frame/fork/extras. Here's a small Flickr
  set:

 http://tinyurl.com/2ctq33t

  I'm currently mulling over drivetrain ideas and would be happy to hear
  suggestions or experiences. Currently, I'm thinking I'll do fixed/free
  for a while to get used to the bike. Then, make changes as needed.

  Best,
  Lee
  SF, CA

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[RBW] Re: Pari-Moto Ride Report

2010-06-10 Thread Calm54
I just fixed my first flat on the Pari motos, a small thorn pierced
the tread.  Overall, I love the way these tires ride.

On Jun 8, 1:21 pm, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Jun 8, 2:39 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:

  How many miles?

 not sure, but couldn't be much more than 500 or so.  rider/gear/weight
 total about 180lbs.

 only an observation; not sounding any alarms; not surprised (as you
 know, they're pretty thin tires); and it's not to say that 2,000+
 miles won't happen. some tires seem to hang on for a good while after
 the tread pattern disappears.

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RE: [RBW] Re: WAS: SDR Kitchen Creek 200K NOW: Jerseys for the heat

2010-06-10 Thread Joe Bartoe

The also sell arm cooler wings, which are simply the arm coolers with an 
attachment that goes across the back. This is an option if you think you might 
be annoyed by the arm coolers sliding down or the grippy thing around your 
upper arm. DeSoto also has leg coolers.

Joe

 Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 11:30:59 -0700
 Subject: [RBW] Re: WAS: SDR Kitchen Creek 200K NOW: Jerseys for the heat
 From: swing4...@gmail.com
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 
 On Jun 9, 2:24 pm, Dustin Sharp paleo.v...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Arm coolers are great if you don¹t want to spring for the Boure jersey, or
  if you want to convert a light, short-sleeve jersey to a sun-protective and
  cooling one.
 
 good stuff.  never heard of these . ..i'll give 'em a go.
 
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RE: [RBW] Re: WAS: SDR Kitchen Creek 200K NOW: Jerseys for the heat

2010-06-10 Thread Joe Bartoe

I think in some sense they work like sunscreen. Sunscreen has been show to keep 
you core temps lower by not allowing you to get sunburned. It's possible that 
the coolers my not keep you cooler initially, but the longer you're in the sun, 
the cooler you will be for the same reason. 

Joe

 Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 12:54:42 -0700
 Subject: [RBW] Re: WAS: SDR Kitchen Creek 200K NOW: Jerseys for the heat
 From: mikeybi...@rocketmail.com
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 
 I can see they would reflect the sun. Do they still feel warmer than
 going sleeveless?   Still can't imagine they are cooler?
 
 ~Mike~
 
 On Jun 9, 11:30 am, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Jun 9, 2:24 pm, Dustin Sharp paleo.v...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Arm coolers are great if you don¹t want to spring for the Boure jersey, or
   if you want to convert a light, short-sleeve jersey to a sun-protective 
   and
   cooling one.
 
  good stuff.  never heard of these . ..i'll give 'em a go.
 
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[RBW] Wanted- 54cm Quickbeam

2010-06-10 Thread steve
Hi All-
Would love to pick up a used 54cm pumpkin Quickbeam.
Please let me know if you have one to sell, thank you!
scmah174(at)aol(dot)com
Steve

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[RBW] Re: Pari-Moto Ride Report

2010-06-10 Thread Esteban
I'd worry about the supple sidewalls rather than the tread.  My plan
is to use them for events or times when I want to maximize
performance, and use Hetres everyday.

All this being said, the old reliable CdlV is a great all-around tire,
and it will fit the Riv 650B bikes and most conversions no problem.

I wonder why Grand Bois backed off the 38mm Hetre.  It would have sold
well - long wear, very fast, comfortable ride, and the colors!

Esteban
San Diego, Calif.

On Jun 10, 7:42 am, Calm54 mukum...@gmail.com wrote:
 I just fixed my first flat on the Pari motos, a small thorn pierced
 the tread.  Overall, I love the way these tires ride.

 On Jun 8, 1:21 pm, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote:



  On Jun 8, 2:39 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:

   How many miles?

  not sure, but couldn't be much more than 500 or so.  rider/gear/weight
  total about 180lbs.

  only an observation; not sounding any alarms; not surprised (as you
  know, they're pretty thin tires); and it's not to say that 2,000+
  miles won't happen. some tires seem to hang on for a good while after
  the tread pattern disappears.

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[RBW] Re: new vegan panniers

2010-06-10 Thread grant
There's a flap-tongue, like there is on the S-M-L Saddlesacks, so
there's good coverage. And padded, slim-fitting laptop cases are 10
cents per 12 at office supply shops and wherever cheap computer
supplies are purveyed. Dusty dirt shant stand a chance..
G

On Jun 9, 6:36 pm, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm concerned dust and dirt will get clothes/computer inside dirty. I
 now commute on a gravel trail for 6 miles each way and the whole bike
 is covered with a fine coat of dust. Granted, I'm not wearing fenders
 now, and those might help.

 Still for clean work clothes and my laptop, I prefer something that
 fully closes or at least, has much better coverage of the inside like
 the Saddlebag. Am running the Arkel commuter pannier now as I have the
 Nitto Big Rear rack on and don't like how the top handle of the rack
 interferes with the Saddlebag.

 Otherwise, they are very nice. I saw the green prototypes in person.

 René

 On 6/9/10, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:



  They do look nice. Very tempting. I just ordered up a large Nitto rear
  rack.

  --mike

  On Jun 8, 7:08 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
  All I can say is wow. Those are REALLY attractive.

  LOTS of pictures here:

 http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/toursacks-rear-panniers/20-215

  -sv

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[RBW] Re: New-to-me Quickbeam frame/fork pics

2010-06-10 Thread Andy C.
I could be mistaken, but that sweet looking machine is perched in
front of my place of employment (I usually park my QB inside).  Andrew
Carnegie himself would be proud of such fine steel.  That bike says,
Go!  NIce work.

On Jun 10, 7:41 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:
 I love everything about this bike.  Especially the color.  Very smart
 choices on the build.  I like the reverse levers on the m'bars.

 If you can set it up next your your desk, you can just stare at it all
 day!

 That's what I would do :)

 Esteban
 San Diego, Calif.

 On Jun 10, 6:21 am, Lee leec...@gmail.com wrote:



  Hi all. I just wanted to follow-up with pics of my finished
  Quickbeam. I expect it'll undergo some tweaks over the next month or
  two. Right now, I'm using it as my commuter, but I hope to start
  taking it out for some long rides pretty soon. It's in 650B-mode with
  an old set of Nifty Swiftys. I have it geared 41x16/19 for 67/56 gear
  inches on the freewheel side, and 41x16 on the fixed side. I've ridden
  it free for two commutes and fixed for one. It'll be interesting to
  see on which side the coin lands. I find both styles of riding fun. My
  main focus right now is getting a feel for the geometry and dialing in
  the fit.

  The only problem I have with it is after getting into work, I spend
  the first half-hour thinking about the ride in--okay, maybe more than
  a half-hour.

  Thanks for everyone's input!
  Lee

  Right after finishing:http://tinyurl.com/2eqllb5

  On the mixed-mode commute:http://tinyurl.com/2a3zk78

  Full Flickr set of the build-up:http://tinyurl.com/2ctq33t

  On May 20, 10:27 am, Lee leec...@gmail.com wrote:

   Hi everyone. I just joined this group, though I've been lurking for a
   while. Yesterday, through a fast and fortunate series of events, I
   picked up a used Quickbeam frame/fork/extras. Here's a small Flickr
   set:

  http://tinyurl.com/2ctq33t

   I'm currently mulling over drivetrain ideas and would be happy to hear
   suggestions or experiences. Currently, I'm thinking I'll do fixed/free
   for a while to get used to the bike. Then, make changes as needed.

   Best,
   Lee
   SF, CA

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[RBW] Re: Pari-Moto Ride Report

2010-06-10 Thread JoelMatthews
 I'd worry about the supple sidewalls rather than the tread.  My plan
 is to use them for events or times when I want to maximize
 performance, and use Hetres everyday.

Except that I really do not do events, this is my plan as well.

For everyday and light touring use on my soon to be built Rando style
bike, I am building wheels with a Royce rear hub, regular Son front
matched with a set of 40h Mavic M-2 rims I got from Jan Heine.  These
rims will wear Hetres as long as the tires hold out.

For sunny Sunday afternoon riding around town and on the local trails
I have a set of 36h Rigida Sphinx rims on which I will mount the Pari-
Motos.

Currently, I am agonizing about which hubs to use for the Rims.  I
have a NOS Maxi-Car rear hub I could match with a SonDeluxe if I want
to keep light options.  Or, I could use a nice NOS set of Campy Nuovo
Hubs currently displayed in my living room.  Lately I wonder if it
might not be fun to get matching set of Royce hubs.

The Maxi-Car SonDeluxe seems most logical, as the bike will be wired
with dynamo lights.  It is just that I cannot think of why I would
want the Pari-Motos on for night riding.

On Jun 10, 10:54 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'd worry about the supple sidewalls rather than the tread.  My plan
 is to use them for events or times when I want to maximize
 performance, and use Hetres everyday.

 All this being said, the old reliable CdlV is a great all-around tire,
 and it will fit the Riv 650B bikes and most conversions no problem.

 I wonder why Grand Bois backed off the 38mm Hetre.  It would have sold
 well - long wear, very fast, comfortable ride, and the colors!

 Esteban
 San Diego, Calif.

 On Jun 10, 7:42 am, Calm54 mukum...@gmail.com wrote:



  I just fixed my first flat on the Pari motos, a small thorn pierced
  the tread.  Overall, I love the way these tires ride.

  On Jun 8, 1:21 pm, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote:

   On Jun 8, 2:39 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:

How many miles?

   not sure, but couldn't be much more than 500 or so.  rider/gear/weight
   total about 180lbs.

   only an observation; not sounding any alarms; not surprised (as you
   know, they're pretty thin tires); and it's not to say that 2,000+
   miles won't happen. some tires seem to hang on for a good while after
   the tread pattern disappears.- Hide quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: New-to-me Quickbeam frame/fork pics

2010-06-10 Thread Lee
Thanks, Esteban. I'll work on clearing space :)

Andy, what a small world. I'm a post-doc in Sue's lab. Where do you
keep your QB? I'm sure I would've seen yours if you kept it out on the
grounds somewhere, as nice bikes always catch my eye :)

Lee

On Jun 10, 9:04 am, Andy C. ancas...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I could be mistaken, but that sweet looking machine is perched in
 front of my place of employment (I usually park my QB inside).  Andrew
 Carnegie himself would be proud of such fine steel.  That bike says,
 Go!  NIce work.

 On Jun 10, 7:41 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:

  I love everything about this bike.  Especially the color.  Very smart
  choices on the build.  I like the reverse levers on the m'bars.

  If you can set it up next your your desk, you can just stare at it all
  day!

  That's what I would do :)

  Esteban
  San Diego, Calif.

  On Jun 10, 6:21 am, Lee leec...@gmail.com wrote:

   Hi all. I just wanted to follow-up with pics of my finished
   Quickbeam. I expect it'll undergo some tweaks over the next month or
   two. Right now, I'm using it as my commuter, but I hope to start
   taking it out for some long rides pretty soon. It's in 650B-mode with
   an old set of Nifty Swiftys. I have it geared 41x16/19 for 67/56 gear
   inches on the freewheel side, and 41x16 on the fixed side. I've ridden
   it free for two commutes and fixed for one. It'll be interesting to
   see on which side the coin lands. I find both styles of riding fun. My
   main focus right now is getting a feel for the geometry and dialing in
   the fit.

   The only problem I have with it is after getting into work, I spend
   the first half-hour thinking about the ride in--okay, maybe more than
   a half-hour.

   Thanks for everyone's input!
   Lee

   Right after finishing:http://tinyurl.com/2eqllb5

   On the mixed-mode commute:http://tinyurl.com/2a3zk78

   Full Flickr set of the build-up:http://tinyurl.com/2ctq33t

   On May 20, 10:27 am, Lee leec...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi everyone. I just joined this group, though I've been lurking for a
while. Yesterday, through a fast and fortunate series of events, I
picked up a used Quickbeam frame/fork/extras. Here's a small Flickr
set:

   http://tinyurl.com/2ctq33t

I'm currently mulling over drivetrain ideas and would be happy to hear
suggestions or experiences. Currently, I'm thinking I'll do fixed/free
for a while to get used to the bike. Then, make changes as needed.

Best,
Lee
SF, CA

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[RBW] Re: Interesting, may be useful Suginol crank for some of us.

2010-06-10 Thread Ken Yokanovich
Wow, looks like an interesting product,  the English page has their
product info too
http://www.suginoltd.co.jp/english/ox801d_main_english.htm

'twood be the perfect drive mechanism for a Roadeo

On Jun 10, 11:58 am, RonLau ron...@ronlau.com wrote:
 http://www.suginoltd.co.jp/japan/ox801d_main_japan.htm

 http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ensl=jau=http://www.sugino...

 If you look towards the bottom where it describe chain ring size, it
 can come with

 52T-36T

 50T-34T

 48T-34T / 48T-32T

 46T-36T / 46T-34T / 46T-32T / 46T-30T

 Q factor reports as 145mm, same as a Shimano double, low enough for
 me.
 Price is not cheap, close to $400.  That is not ideal.  But if you
 look at other cranks out there, not too bad.

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[RBW] Interesting, may be useful Suginol crank for some of us.

2010-06-10 Thread RonLau
http://www.suginoltd.co.jp/japan/ox801d_main_japan.htm

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ensl=jau=http://www.suginoltd.co.jp/japan/ox801d_main_japan.htmei=RxcRTN-yN5fxngfj6OncCAsa=Xoi=translatect=resultresnum=1ved=0CBUQ7gEwAAprev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.suginoltd.co.jp/japan/ox801d_main_japan.htm%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3D1Yl%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official



If you look towards the bottom where it describe chain ring size, it
can come with


52T-36T

50T-34T

48T-34T / 48T-32T

46T-36T / 46T-34T / 46T-32T / 46T-30T

Q factor reports as 145mm, same as a Shimano double, low enough for
me.
Price is not cheap, close to $400.  That is not ideal.  But if you
look at other cranks out there, not too bad.

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Re: [RBW] rivish bike parts for trade

2010-06-10 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I could use the track nuts; is there any small fitting you might need? A
smaller track cog (3/32) in 16 or so? Clamp on cable guide? Think I have one
or two of those. Canti or centerpull headset housing stop?

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Re: [RBW] rivish bike parts for trade

2010-06-10 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Sorry, that was meant to go to JL


On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:18 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 I could use the track nuts; is there any small fitting you might need? A
 smaller track cog (3/32) in 16 or so? Clamp on cable guide? Think I have one
 or two of those. Canti or centerpull headset housing stop?




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Re: [RBW] Re: new vegan panniers

2010-06-10 Thread Rene Sterental
I stand corrected!

Thanks Grant!

René

On 6/10/10, grant grant...@gmail.com wrote:
 There's a flap-tongue, like there is on the S-M-L Saddlesacks, so
 there's good coverage. And padded, slim-fitting laptop cases are 10
 cents per 12 at office supply shops and wherever cheap computer
 supplies are purveyed. Dusty dirt shant stand a chance..
 G

 On Jun 9, 6:36 pm, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm concerned dust and dirt will get clothes/computer inside dirty. I
 now commute on a gravel trail for 6 miles each way and the whole bike
 is covered with a fine coat of dust. Granted, I'm not wearing fenders
 now, and those might help.

 Still for clean work clothes and my laptop, I prefer something that
 fully closes or at least, has much better coverage of the inside like
 the Saddlebag. Am running the Arkel commuter pannier now as I have the
 Nitto Big Rear rack on and don't like how the top handle of the rack
 interferes with the Saddlebag.

 Otherwise, they are very nice. I saw the green prototypes in person.

 René

 On 6/9/10, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:



  They do look nice. Very tempting. I just ordered up a large Nitto rear
  rack.

  --mike

  On Jun 8, 7:08 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
  All I can say is wow. Those are REALLY attractive.

  LOTS of pictures here:

 http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/toursacks-rear-panniers/20-215

  -sv

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[RBW] Re: Interesting, may be useful Suginol crank for some of us.

2010-06-10 Thread reynoldslugs
The bcd is 110/74, which suggests that one could use smaller inner
chainrings, e.g., a 26 or 28, if one were so inclined.

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[RBW] Re: Interesting, may be useful Suginol crank for some of us.

2010-06-10 Thread rperks
These are very interesting as the rings seem to stack inward from the
110 PCD holes and the 74 PCD holes may be in the same plane as the
middle ring.  If this in indeed the case it would open up the door for
some very very wide double setups.  I wonder if and when we may see a
set of these in the flesh.  Also still wondering why so much re-
engineering is going on when the Ritchey Logic Compact cranks are/were
so nice.   Does anybody out there know why Sugino does not just bring
back something like the old Ritchey or Suntour cranks?  I figure the
forging dies are gone by now, but the patterns were near ideal.

Rob

On Jun 10, 9:58 am, RonLau ron...@ronlau.com wrote:
 http://www.suginoltd.co.jp/japan/ox801d_main_japan.htm

 http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ensl=jau=http://www.sugino...

 If you look towards the bottom where it describe chain ring size, it
 can come with

 52T-36T

 50T-34T

 48T-34T / 48T-32T

 46T-36T / 46T-34T / 46T-32T / 46T-30T

 Q factor reports as 145mm, same as a Shimano double, low enough for
 me.
 Price is not cheap, close to $400.  That is not ideal.  But if you
 look at other cranks out there, not too bad.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Pari-Moto Ride Report

2010-06-10 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 08:54 -0700, Esteban wrote:
 I'd worry about the supple sidewalls rather than the tread.

Why?


   My plan
 is to use them for events or times when I want to maximize
 performance, and use Hetres everyday

Do you plan to have two sets of wheels, or will you be removing and
installing tires?  I am currently in the midst of mystery rim-side flat
tire hell, and I'm having trouble imagining swapping tires without
actually being compelled to do so.



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[RBW] Re: Interesting, may be useful Suginol crank for some of us.

2010-06-10 Thread William
That's by far my favorite looking external BB crankset that I've
seen.  That would look great on any bike that can be served by a
double.

On Jun 10, 10:31 am, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote:
 These are very interesting as the rings seem to stack inward from the
 110 PCD holes and the 74 PCD holes may be in the same plane as the
 middle ring.  If this in indeed the case it would open up the door for
 some very very wide double setups.  I wonder if and when we may see a
 set of these in the flesh.  Also still wondering why so much re-
 engineering is going on when the Ritchey Logic Compact cranks are/were
 so nice.   Does anybody out there know why Sugino does not just bring
 back something like the old Ritchey or Suntour cranks?  I figure the
 forging dies are gone by now, but the patterns were near ideal.

 Rob

 On Jun 10, 9:58 am, RonLau ron...@ronlau.com wrote:

 http://www.suginoltd.co.jp/japan/ox801d_main_japan.htm

 http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ensl=jau=http://www.sugino...

  If you look towards the bottom where it describe chain ring size, it
  can come with

  52T-36T

  50T-34T

  48T-34T / 48T-32T

  46T-36T / 46T-34T / 46T-32T / 46T-30T

  Q factor reports as 145mm, same as a Shimano double, low enough for
  me.
  Price is not cheap, close to $400.  That is not ideal.  But if you
  look at other cranks out there, not too bad.

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[RBW] Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-10 Thread Rob Harrison
The one remaining thing I need to complete my Saluki (Sure, sure you  
say!) is a handlebar bag. What's your favorite, and why?


I will use it on increasingly longer rides in variable weather (I'm in  
Seattle!), carrying a Panasonic GF1...or a Voigtlander Vitessa on my  
film days...jacket, rain-chaps, sandwich, banana, and so on, and  
possibly an S24O later in the season. I have a Berthoud 786 saddle  
bag, which is large enough for tools and an extra tube, etc. and could  
be used in conjunction with a smaller bag up front, or left at home if  
I have a larger bag. Having sold my motorcycle, cost is not so much of  
a consideration. It's going on a 62cm Saluki on which I have the bars  
set quite high, so there is approximately six feet of room between the  
Mark's rack and the handlebars I'm not married to the Mark's rack,  
if a smaller bag hanging off the bars will work.


For summer day-long rides something small could work. Just need room  
for food and camera. For the rest of the year, I'll need additional  
space for clothing.


I've been eyeing these larger ones: Inujirushi, Acorn boxy rando,  
Berthoud 28, and these smaller ones: Berthoud 192, Acorn medium  
handlebar bag, Sackville BarSack and Ortlieb Ultimate 5. Being rain- 
proof is a serious consideration, 'cause as you know it rains eight  
months of the year here. A rain cover would do fine though, because it  
does NOT rain for the other four months. :) I like the idea of waxed  
canvas, as long as it'll keep the camera dry.


Here's the bike: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robharrison/4673037719/ 
 Fenders arriving tomorrow, according to UPS!


Thanks for your consideration.

Rob in Seattle




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RE: [RBW] Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-10 Thread Larry Powers

The bag I find the most functional is my Berthoud Handlebar bag that sits on a 
small front rack and uses a decaleur.  These come in sizes based on the height 
of your bars from the rack.  I purchased one with leather straps and buckles 
but I would recomend one that uses elastic and hooks on all the pockets.  It is 
much easier to access the pockets while riding with the elastic.  I have a Boxy 
Baggins and and a C'dale bag that mounts just to the bars.  As the amount of 
weight goes up the Berthoud bag impacts the bike handling the least.  I am 
using this bag on my Rambouillet and find it works very well.  There are three 
factors that may account for this, the bag and therefor the weight is lower, 
the bag sits closer in to the bars and most of the weight is supported by the 
rack.  I will be adding a Decaleur and rack to my Atlantis and this bag 
combined with my Hoss should make for a good minimalist touring rig.

Larry Powers 
 
Get a bicycle.  You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain



 
 From: robha...@gmail.com
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [RBW] Your Favorite Handlebar Bag
 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:22:05 -0700
 
 The one remaining thing I need to complete my Saluki (Sure, sure you 
 say!) is a handlebar bag. What's your favorite, and why?
 
 I will use it on increasingly longer rides in variable weather (I'm in 
 Seattle!), carrying a Panasonic GF1...or a Voigtlander Vitessa on my 
 film days...jacket, rain-chaps, sandwich, banana, and so on, and 
 possibly an S24O later in the season. I have a Berthoud 786 saddle 
 bag, which is large enough for tools and an extra tube, etc. and could 
 be used in conjunction with a smaller bag up front, or left at home if 
 I have a larger bag. Having sold my motorcycle, cost is not so much of 
 a consideration. It's going on a 62cm Saluki on which I have the bars 
 set quite high, so there is approximately six feet of room between the 
 Mark's rack and the handlebars I'm not married to the Mark's rack, 
 if a smaller bag hanging off the bars will work.
 
 For summer day-long rides something small could work. Just need room 
 for food and camera. For the rest of the year, I'll need additional 
 space for clothing.
 
 I've been eyeing these larger ones: Inujirushi, Acorn boxy rando, 
 Berthoud 28, and these smaller ones: Berthoud 192, Acorn medium 
 handlebar bag, Sackville BarSack and Ortlieb Ultimate 5. Being rain- 
 proof is a serious consideration, 'cause as you know it rains eight 
 months of the year here. A rain cover would do fine though, because it 
 does NOT rain for the other four months. :) I like the idea of waxed 
 canvas, as long as it'll keep the camera dry.
 
 Here's the bike: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robharrison/4673037719/ 
  Fenders arriving tomorrow, according to UPS!
 
 Thanks for your consideration.
 
 Rob in Seattle
 
 
 
 
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RE: [RBW] Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-10 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 14:36 -0400, Larry Powers wrote:
 The bag I find the most functional is my Berthoud Handlebar bag that
 sits on a small front rack and uses a decaleur.  These come in sizes
 based on the height of your bars from the rack.  I purchased one with
 leather straps and buckles but I would recomend one that uses elastic
 and hooks on all the pockets.  It is much easier to access the pockets
 while riding with the elastic. 

And it's a lot cheaper, too.  $80 cheaper.  I have both of these, like
you; mine are the GB28 and the 2886.  Both are very well made, both work
very well, both look great.  The Berthoud bags are a first class
product.





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[RBW] Re: Pari-Moto Ride Report

2010-06-10 Thread JoelMatthews
 Do you plan to have two sets of wheels, or will you be removing and
 installing tires?  I am currently in the midst of mystery rim-side flat
 tire hell, and I'm having trouble imagining swapping tires without
 actually being compelled to do so.

My thinking as well.  I probably would not have bought the Pari-Motos
had I not always planned to have a second set or rims.

Failed to count on the difficult hubs decision I would have to face ;)

On Jun 10, 1:03 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 08:54 -0700, Esteban wrote:
  I'd worry about the supple sidewalls rather than the tread.

 Why?

    My plan
  is to use them for events or times when I want to maximize
  performance, and use Hetres everyday

 Do you plan to have two sets of wheels, or will you be removing and
 installing tires?  I am currently in the midst of mystery rim-side flat
 tire hell, and I'm having trouble imagining swapping tires without
 actually being compelled to do so.

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Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal River Ride?

2010-06-10 Thread andrew hill
update on the ride.. i did it :)

here are some pics of the Sam on the ride, fully kitted out, including rider:
http://salamander.net/stage/LARiverRide2010/

the ride itself was pretty awesome.  first several miles were through the hills 
of Griffith Park, and then onto the LA River bike path.. then a handful of mile 
through downtown LA.. back on a river bike path.. to Long Beach Aquarium, then 
through into Orange County (Seal Beach). 

here is a route map:
http://tinyurl.com/232chez

the only problems I had were with my right knee having increasing issues 
starting around mile 50.. after about 20 more miles i figured out it was due to 
having not enough float in the clip-in pedals on that side.  i thought ahead 
and had brought some light canvas shoes (and had pedals with a flat, non-spd 
side) so swapped to those shoes for the last 25 miles and found myself 
sprinting the last portion after my knee freed up and stopped hurting.

the Sam performed flawlessly - an extremely comfy if somewhat slow ride - it 
took me about 8 hours to do the whole thing... a lot of that slow time was due 
to meandering around downtown LA and urban Seal Beach with lots of stops and 
starts, lights, etc..  but i felt tall and sporty, especially compared to the 
elephants-on-tricycles look that 95% of the riders on their tiny road bikes 
had.  

everyone loved it too - i got dozens of nice bike!! comments.. and a few wtf 
is that?!?.   people were very impressed with my emcorkened bar ends, too :)   
one of the booth mechanics who helped me adjust the indexed shifter (which was 
skipping a ring) wondered if i'd restored a classic.  

i also saw another Sam on the River path - not doing the ride, but he had come 
down from downtown to take advantage of the nice day.. though i saw him with 
the bike up-ended and fixing a flat..   i'm forgetting his name - Matt? - he is 
on this list, though a lurker.. but it was funny to see another Sam.  i didn't 
see ANY other Rivs, though someone told me there was yet another Sam on the 
course ahead of me.

sooo.. my first Century down.  not my last, though i might carry less on the 
bike next time or swap in a lighter wheelset/tire setup.

best,
andrew



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[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-10 Thread Mike
What Larry and Steve said.

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Re: [RBW] Re: SF/Marin Fixedgear/SS ride July 10, 2010

2010-06-10 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Y'all make me envious; I'm stuck here in hot and windy Albuquerque. But I
did a 23 mile hilly ride (well, it's hilly by my standards; MLK is 1 mile
long) today on the Riv commuter to pick up some tires (thanks, Ryan).
(Inbound via RG bike trail/mountain/ MLK/Copper; return via
Washington/Diversion Channel bike path/ Commanche/Griegos/RG Blvd to
Montano. Almost got sideswiped by a double trailer Sysco truck on Commanche,
so if anyone from Sysco reads this, remember: I will sue your asses if you
hit me and I remain alive.)

Tell us about the terrain and the gearing ... and post some photos, if you
can.

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sweet!  I'll be there.

 On Jun 10, 1:19 pm, RonLau ron...@ronlau.com wrote:
  Chae Lee (aka i am a lineman for the county's) and I are going for a
  fixed/SS ride on July 10.
 
  Bring you fixedgear or SS and we can do the Paradise Loop again.  ~30
  miles if you start from Golden Gate Bridge.
 
  It will be a causal no drop ride, if you are strong and fast, you can
  climb everything twice.

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[RBW] New Rivendell dual drive

2010-06-10 Thread Jim M.
I wandered by RBW today to get the Bikesnob book and a new purse:
http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/brand-v-grabsack/20-214
Very nice bag, btw.

While I was there, I got to take a spy shot of the new dual drive on
the new Hunq:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986...@n04/4689448532/

They're waiting for the left-hand derailer prototype before they hook
it up. The new Hunq that they have is a 58, and rides sweet and
strong.

I also got a poor shot of the first Renovelo (the middle o is long)
that you can see in the Flickr Riv group soon.

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[RBW] SF/Marin Fixedgear/SS ride July 10, 2010

2010-06-10 Thread RonLau
Chae Lee (aka i am a lineman for the county's) and I are going for a
fixed/SS ride on July 10.

Bring you fixedgear or SS and we can do the Paradise Loop again.  ~30
miles if you start from Golden Gate Bridge.

It will be a causal no drop ride, if you are strong and fast, you can
climb everything twice.


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[RBW] Re: Interesting, may be useful Suginol crank for some of us.

2010-06-10 Thread Michael_S
They look very nice and the lower ring option would be well received.
I guess the drawback for me are the external bearings. I don't like
the visual look, I'm sure they work better but I've never had any
issue with square tapers.

on a side note the Sugino Mighty Comps are available at many different
sites now. ( 1st time I've noticed anyway)
~Mike~


On Jun 10, 11:16 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's by far my favorite looking external BB crankset that I've
 seen.  That would look great on any bike that can be served by a
 double.

 On Jun 10, 10:31 am, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote:



  These are very interesting as the rings seem to stack inward from the
  110 PCD holes and the 74 PCD holes may be in the same plane as the
  middle ring.  If this in indeed the case it would open up the door for
  some very very wide double setups.  I wonder if and when we may see a
  set of these in the flesh.  Also still wondering why so much re-
  engineering is going on when the Ritchey Logic Compact cranks are/were
  so nice.   Does anybody out there know why Sugino does not just bring
  back something like the old Ritchey or Suntour cranks?  I figure the
  forging dies are gone by now, but the patterns were near ideal.

  Rob

  On Jun 10, 9:58 am, RonLau ron...@ronlau.com wrote:

  http://www.suginoltd.co.jp/japan/ox801d_main_japan.htm

  http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ensl=jau=http://www.sugino...

   If you look towards the bottom where it describe chain ring size, it
   can come with

   52T-36T

   50T-34T

   48T-34T / 48T-32T

   46T-36T / 46T-34T / 46T-32T / 46T-30T

   Q factor reports as 145mm, same as a Shimano double, low enough for
   me.
   Price is not cheap, close to $400.  That is not ideal.  But if you
   look at other cranks out there, not too bad.- Hide quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-10 Thread stevep33
For a small front rack bag, I like the Bailey Works D-Rack Bag.

It's made for the nitto mini front rack and is similar in size and
function to the Sackville small TrunkSack.  Though I really like that
the D-Rack bag is made to order in any color combo you want.  The
quality is impressive, and mine seems to be waterproof.  I think it
was about $90.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/31353...@n07/sets/72157616085693460/
http://www.baileyworks.com/

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[RBW] Re: SF/Marin Fixedgear/SS ride July 10, 2010

2010-06-10 Thread RonLau
BTW, I have an extra fixed/SS if anyone needs to borrow one.

It is a 54cm c-t ST with a 54 c-c tt.  If you have not done SS/fixed
before, it is fun and IMHO it is good to ride with other experience
fixed/ss riders so you can learn all the joy and pain along with the
quite drive train.

On Jun 10, 1:19 pm, RonLau ron...@ronlau.com wrote:
 Chae Lee (aka i am a lineman for the county's) and I are going for a
 fixed/SS ride on July 10.

 Bring you fixedgear or SS and we can do the Paradise Loop again.  ~30
 miles if you start from Golden Gate Bridge.

 It will be a causal no drop ride, if you are strong and fast, you can
 climb everything twice.

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[RBW] Re: SF/Marin Fixedgear/SS ride July 10, 2010

2010-06-10 Thread Jeremy Till
Sweet!  I'll be there.

On Jun 10, 1:19 pm, RonLau ron...@ronlau.com wrote:
 Chae Lee (aka i am a lineman for the county's) and I are going for a
 fixed/SS ride on July 10.

 Bring you fixedgear or SS and we can do the Paradise Loop again.  ~30
 miles if you start from Golden Gate Bridge.

 It will be a causal no drop ride, if you are strong and fast, you can
 climb everything twice.

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Re: [RBW] SF/Marin Fixedgear/SS ride July 10, 2010

2010-06-10 Thread Eric Norris
If I didn't already have plans to be in Hawaii that day, I would join you.

--Eric

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 10, 2010, at 1:19 PM, RonLau ron...@ronlau.com wrote:

 Chae Lee (aka i am a lineman for the county's) and I are going for a
 fixed/SS ride on July 10.
 
 Bring you fixedgear or SS and we can do the Paradise Loop again.  ~30
 miles if you start from Golden Gate Bridge.
 
 It will be a causal no drop ride, if you are strong and fast, you can
 climb everything twice.
 
 
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[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-10 Thread GeorgeS
I'm in total agreement about the Berthoud bag with a decaleur.  I've
tried a number of different handlebar bags and this is the best by
far.  Be sure to measure the room you have for mounting and get the
right size.  I also agree that the elastic bands are much easier to
use than the leather strap luxe model.  I'm sure the Acorn boxy bag
is very nice but the Berthoud can be obtained from Wallingford or one
of the other outfitters without a long wait.  I try to forget that
it's French.
GeorgeS

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 The bag I find the most functional is my Berthoud Handlebar bag that sits on 
 a small front rack and uses a decaleur.  These come in sizes based on the 
 height of your bars from the rack.  I purchased one with leather straps and 
 buckles but I would recomend one that uses elastic and hooks on all the 
 pockets.  It is much easier to access the pockets while riding with the 
 elastic.  I have a Boxy Baggins and and a C'dale bag that mounts just to the 
 bars.  As the amount of weight goes up the Berthoud bag impacts the bike 
 handling the least.  I am using this bag on my Rambouillet and find it works 
 very well.  There are three factors that may account for this, the bag and 
 therefor the weight is lower, the bag sits closer in to the bars and most of 
 the weight is supported by the rack.  I will be adding a Decaleur and rack to 
 my Atlantis and this bag combined with my Hoss should make for a good 
 minimalist touring rig.

 Larry Powers

 Get a bicycle.  You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain





  From: robha...@gmail.com
  To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [RBW] Your Favorite Handlebar Bag
  Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:22:05 -0700

  The one remaining thing I need to complete my Saluki (Sure, sure you
  say!) is a handlebar bag. What's your favorite, and why?

  I will use it on increasingly longer rides in variable weather (I'm in
  Seattle!), carrying a Panasonic GF1...or a Voigtlander Vitessa on my
  film days...jacket, rain-chaps, sandwich, banana, and so on, and
  possibly an S24O later in the season. I have a Berthoud 786 saddle
  bag, which is large enough for tools and an extra tube, etc. and could
  be used in conjunction with a smaller bag up front, or left at home if
  I have a larger bag. Having sold my motorcycle, cost is not so much of
  a consideration. It's going on a 62cm Saluki on which I have the bars
  set quite high, so there is approximately six feet of room between the
  Mark's rack and the handlebars I'm not married to the Mark's rack,
  if a smaller bag hanging off the bars will work.

  For summer day-long rides something small could work. Just need room
  for food and camera. For the rest of the year, I'll need additional
  space for clothing.

  I've been eyeing these larger ones: Inujirushi, Acorn boxy rando,
  Berthoud 28, and these smaller ones: Berthoud 192, Acorn medium
  handlebar bag, Sackville BarSack and Ortlieb Ultimate 5. Being rain-
  proof is a serious consideration, 'cause as you know it rains eight
  months of the year here. A rain cover would do fine though, because it
  does NOT rain for the other four months. :) I like the idea of waxed
  canvas, as long as it'll keep the camera dry.

  Here's the bike: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robharrison/4673037719/
   Fenders arriving tomorrow, according to UPS!

  Thanks for your consideration.

  Rob in Seattle

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[RBW] Re: New-to-me Quickbeam frame/fork pics

2010-06-10 Thread RoadieRyan
Very Nice I especially like the moustache bar/reverse brake lever
look.

Enjoy

On Jun 10, 9:31 am, Lee leec...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks, Esteban. I'll work on clearing space :)

 Andy, what a small world. I'm a post-doc in Sue's lab. Where do you
 keep your QB? I'm sure I would've seen yours if you kept it out on the
 grounds somewhere, as nice bikes always catch my eye :)

 Lee

 On Jun 10, 9:04 am, Andy C. ancas...@hotmail.com wrote:



  I could be mistaken, but that sweet looking machine is perched in
  front of my place of employment (I usually park my QB inside).  Andrew
  Carnegie himself would be proud of such fine steel.  That bike says,
  Go!  NIce work.

  On Jun 10, 7:41 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:

   I love everything about this bike.  Especially the color.  Very smart
   choices on the build.  I like the reverse levers on the m'bars.

   If you can set it up next your your desk, you can just stare at it all
   day!

   That's what I would do :)

   Esteban
   San Diego, Calif.

   On Jun 10, 6:21 am, Lee leec...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all. I just wanted to follow-up with pics of my finished
Quickbeam. I expect it'll undergo some tweaks over the next month or
two. Right now, I'm using it as my commuter, but I hope to start
taking it out for some long rides pretty soon. It's in 650B-mode with
an old set of Nifty Swiftys. I have it geared 41x16/19 for 67/56 gear
inches on the freewheel side, and 41x16 on the fixed side. I've ridden
it free for two commutes and fixed for one. It'll be interesting to
see on which side the coin lands. I find both styles of riding fun. My
main focus right now is getting a feel for the geometry and dialing in
the fit.

The only problem I have with it is after getting into work, I spend
the first half-hour thinking about the ride in--okay, maybe more than
a half-hour.

Thanks for everyone's input!
Lee

Right after finishing:http://tinyurl.com/2eqllb5

On the mixed-mode commute:http://tinyurl.com/2a3zk78

Full Flickr set of the build-up:http://tinyurl.com/2ctq33t

On May 20, 10:27 am, Lee leec...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi everyone. I just joined this group, though I've been lurking for a
 while. Yesterday, through a fast and fortunate series of events, I
 picked up a used Quickbeam frame/fork/extras. Here's a small Flickr
 set:

http://tinyurl.com/2ctq33t

 I'm currently mulling over drivetrain ideas and would be happy to hear
 suggestions or experiences. Currently, I'm thinking I'll do fixed/free
 for a while to get used to the bike. Then, make changes as needed.

 Best,
 Lee
 SF, CA

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[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-10 Thread Mojo
I have only used the Acorn Boxy but like it alot. It requires the
front rack you already have, but no other mounting hardware. It is
very stable, easily attached (with 4 velcros below and two cords
around the brake hoods) and easily moved from bike to bike, or to
carry with you. Only used in short rain rides so far, so I have no
input for you there.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/79695...@n00/4601203765/in/set-72157607471577085/

On Jun 10, 12:22 pm, Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com wrote:
 The one remaining thing I need to complete my Saluki (Sure, sure you  
 say!) is a handlebar bag. What's your favorite, and why?

 I will use it on increasingly longer rides in variable weather (I'm in  
 Seattle!), carrying a Panasonic GF1...or a Voigtlander Vitessa on my  
 film days...jacket, rain-chaps, sandwich, banana, and so on, and  
 possibly an S24O later in the season. I have a Berthoud 786 saddle  
 bag, which is large enough for tools and an extra tube, etc. and could  
 be used in conjunction with a smaller bag up front, or left at home if  
 I have a larger bag. Having sold my motorcycle, cost is not so much of  
 a consideration. It's going on a 62cm Saluki on which I have the bars  
 set quite high, so there is approximately six feet of room between the  
 Mark's rack and the handlebars I'm not married to the Mark's rack,  
 if a smaller bag hanging off the bars will work.

 For summer day-long rides something small could work. Just need room  
 for food and camera. For the rest of the year, I'll need additional  
 space for clothing.

 I've been eyeing these larger ones: Inujirushi, Acorn boxy rando,  
 Berthoud 28, and these smaller ones: Berthoud 192, Acorn medium  
 handlebar bag, Sackville BarSack and Ortlieb Ultimate 5. Being rain-
 proof is a serious consideration, 'cause as you know it rains eight  
 months of the year here. A rain cover would do fine though, because it  
 does NOT rain for the other four months. :) I like the idea of waxed  
 canvas, as long as it'll keep the camera dry.

 Here's the bike: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robharrison/4673037719/
   Fenders arriving tomorrow, according to UPS!

 Thanks for your consideration.

 Rob in Seattle

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[RBW] Re: SF/Marin Fixedgear/SS ride July 10, 2010

2010-06-10 Thread Jim M.
That's the same day as La Ruta Loca. Tough choice, but I'm going to
miss both 'cuz I'll be backpacking.

happy trails,
jim mather
wc ca

On Jun 10, 1:19 pm, RonLau ron...@ronlau.com wrote:
 Chae Lee (aka i am a lineman for the county's) and I are going for a
 fixed/SS ride on July 10.

 Bring you fixedgear or SS and we can do the Paradise Loop again.  ~30
 miles if you start from Golden Gate Bridge.

 It will be a causal no drop ride, if you are strong and fast, you can
 climb everything twice.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-10 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 15:33 -0700, GeorgeS wrote:
 I'm in total agreement about the Berthoud bag with a decaleur.  I've
 tried a number of different handlebar bags and this is the best by
 far.  Be sure to measure the room you have for mounting and get the
 right size.  I also agree that the elastic bands are much easier to
 use than the leather strap luxe model. 

The pockets inside the top flap on the deluxe bags are nice.  There's a
place that's perfect for a brevet card, and there's a zippered pocket
that makes a nice place to stash a $20 and forget it until you need it.
The model with the elastics lacks those features.  But it's true, it is
definitely easier to get into the elastic-closed pockets than the
straps.



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Re: [RBW] Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-10 Thread Anne Paulson
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com wrote:
 The one remaining thing I need to complete my Saluki (Sure, sure you say!)
 is a handlebar bag. What's your favorite, and why?

I use an Ortlieb front bag for touring on my Atlantis and like it very
well, but for your purposes, I agree with Larry-- get a bag that is
not supported just by the handlebars. When I put too much weight in my
handlebar bag, handling of the bike degrades and I get a horrible
downhill shimmy. This is no problem for me, since I only use the
handlebar bag when I'm touring and have an entire suite of other
Ortlieb bags to stash my extra stuff, but if I were trying to put
food, rainclothes, sweater, fruit, sandwich, camera and maps in the
Ortlieb, I would not be happy.

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[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-10 Thread rperks
I keep my GF-1 in a Tamrac Mosel 3320 - Areo Zoom 20.  I find this
fits perfectly in my Acorn bag.  I leave both bags unzipped for quick
access while riding. there is a bit of room to spare next to the
camera bag and then the two little pockest for incidentals like wallet
phone and keys.  I find having the smaller bag keeps me from
overpacking.  I have seen and contemplated the taller Berthoud bag for
the front, but would try and fill it (OCD) you can see it here on my
Roadeo, th epic has circulated before.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/36302...@n08/4380585188/in/set-72157622875811028/

It has been working well, bu tnot heavily rain tested, we are spoiled
here in SoCal.  I can still stuff my Canon XTi in the bag as well, bui
tthat fills it far more.  THe Acorn bags are no tas hard to get as
people make it out either, you just have to set a remender for the
first and act kind of quickly

Rob

On Jun 10, 11:22 am, Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com wrote:
 The one remaining thing I need to complete my Saluki (Sure, sure you  
 say!) is a handlebar bag. What's your favorite, and why?

 I will use it on increasingly longer rides in variable weather (I'm in  
 Seattle!), carrying a Panasonic GF1...or a Voigtlander Vitessa on my  
 film days...jacket, rain-chaps, sandwich, banana, and so on, and  
 possibly an S24O later in the season. I have a Berthoud 786 saddle  
 bag, which is large enough for tools and an extra tube, etc. and could  
 be used in conjunction with a smaller bag up front, or left at home if  
 I have a larger bag. Having sold my motorcycle, cost is not so much of  
 a consideration. It's going on a 62cm Saluki on which I have the bars  
 set quite high, so there is approximately six feet of room between the  
 Mark's rack and the handlebars I'm not married to the Mark's rack,  
 if a smaller bag hanging off the bars will work.

 For summer day-long rides something small could work. Just need room  
 for food and camera. For the rest of the year, I'll need additional  
 space for clothing.

 I've been eyeing these larger ones: Inujirushi, Acorn boxy rando,  
 Berthoud 28, and these smaller ones: Berthoud 192, Acorn medium  
 handlebar bag, Sackville BarSack and Ortlieb Ultimate 5. Being rain-
 proof is a serious consideration, 'cause as you know it rains eight  
 months of the year here. A rain cover would do fine though, because it  
 does NOT rain for the other four months. :) I like the idea of waxed  
 canvas, as long as it'll keep the camera dry.

 Here's the bike: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robharrison/4673037719/
   Fenders arriving tomorrow, according to UPS!

 Thanks for your consideration.

 Rob in Seattle

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[RBW] Re: New Rivendell dual drive and pics of New Hunq

2010-06-10 Thread Jim M.
And I should add, a pic of the whole, new, unpainted Hunq:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986...@n04/4689448618/in/pool-1358...@n23

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[RBW] Re: New Rivendell dual drive

2010-06-10 Thread manueljohnacosta
sweet pictures! thanks for the pictures bikes look interesting!

On Jun 10, 3:54 pm, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote:
 I wandered by RBW today to get the Bikesnob book and a new 
 purse:http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/brand-v-grabsack/20-214
 Very nice bag, btw.

 While I was there, I got to take a spy shot of the new dual drive on
 the new Hunq:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986...@n04/4689448532/

 They're waiting for the left-hand derailer prototype before they hook
 it up. The new Hunq that they have is a 58, and rides sweet and
 strong.

 I also got a poor shot of the first Renovelo (the middle o is long)
 that you can see in the Flickr Riv group soon.

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[RBW] Re: Tektro CR720s on a Quickbeam

2010-06-10 Thread MikeC
I have been trying to come up with a way to minimize the radial slop
between the studs and canti pivots and just thought of trying to wind
the stud with Teflon tape. This would take up the space without
increasing friction. Has anyone tried this?

Mike

On Jun 9, 11:49 pm, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Thanks for these suggestions - I have V-brakes on my Bontrager with
 drops, and I love them. If I can't adjust the Tektros to be
 significantly better than the stock brakes, I'll just buy new pads for
 them and put them back on.

 The nice part of tracking the 'tinking' sound to the brakes was that
 now my saddle rails, seatpost and cranks are all greased and tight.

 I will try lowering the yoke on the front, and I'll toe the brakes
 more dramatically. I feel bad now for watching a CX race and wondering
 what's wrong with these people's brakes/mechanics? because 65% of
 the them would come diving into a turn with their forks going
 gackgackgackgackgack. Now that's me.

  Philip
 97128



 MikeC wrote:
  I have the same issue with my Hillborne. I assume they use the same
  studs as the QB. The problem is more radial slop than length-wise slop
  as was previously mentioned. I had terrible brake shudder, because
  when the brakes hit the rim, the cantis would rotate enough on the
  stud to remove the little bit of toe-in that they had when not
  engaged. I ended up re-postioning the pads with a lot of toe-in and
  that solved the problem. Other than that issue, which I'm not sure is
  due to the under sized stud or oversized brake bushing, I love the
  CR720s.

  On Jun 9, 10:06 am, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote:-
   On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Philip Williamson

   philip.william...@gmail.com wrote:
I just changed out the stock Quickbeam brakes for Tektro CR720s, a
presumable upgrade.

However, the brakes have fore-aft play on the canti bosses, and make a
'tank'ing noise when plucked. The bike makes the exact same noise when
I jink to the left.

So the bosses seem a shade too long for the brakes, both front and
rear

Has anyone else noticed this with the CR720?
Should I add a thin washer under the nut? Under the brake?
Is this the reason I get brake chatter on the front, or is that the
pads still being brand new?
Would moving the spring-end to the tighter hole keep the brakes from
rattling as much?

Also, regarding braking power, they seem the same as the old brakes.
They're high profile, so I've got a high cable yoke. It can't get much
higher. I want a stronger front brake with a higher yoke, since I
can't lower the stock low-profile brake's yoke any further, due to the
M12's mounting rod.

   Have you considered V-brakes? I tried the CR720 on my Quickbeam for a
   couple of years too, but recently switched to Avid Single Digit
   V-brakes (requires different levers or a Travel Agent). They do have a
   lot of stopping power.

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[RBW] Re: New Rivendell dual drive

2010-06-10 Thread William
I gotta get me some of them dual drive bits.  The totally symmetric
double freehub wheel is gonna be BOMBER!

On Jun 10, 3:54 pm, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote:
 I wandered by RBW today to get the Bikesnob book and a new 
 purse:http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/brand-v-grabsack/20-214
 Very nice bag, btw.

 While I was there, I got to take a spy shot of the new dual drive on
 the new Hunq:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986...@n04/4689448532/

 They're waiting for the left-hand derailer prototype before they hook
 it up. The new Hunq that they have is a 58, and rides sweet and
 strong.

 I also got a poor shot of the first Renovelo (the middle o is long)
 that you can see in the Flickr Riv group soon.

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Re: [RBW] SF/Marin Fixedgear/SS ride July 10, 2010

2010-06-10 Thread nathan spindel
I'm down! I might have a new-to-me '84 Sequoia converted to SS by then
– otherwise I'll take along a geared bike and try not to shift. :)

-nathan

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 1:19 PM, RonLau ron...@ronlau.com wrote:
 Chae Lee (aka i am a lineman for the county's) and I are going for a
 fixed/SS ride on July 10.

 Bring you fixedgear or SS and we can do the Paradise Loop again.  ~30
 miles if you start from Golden Gate Bridge.

 It will be a causal no drop ride, if you are strong and fast, you can
 climb everything twice.


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[RBW] Re: SF/Marin Fixedgear/SS ride July 10, 2010

2010-06-10 Thread RonLau
sure, if you can limit how many times you shift.  because rest of us
cannot

On Jun 10, 4:26 pm, manueljohnacosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com
wrote:
 Can non fixed/ss bikers welcome?

 On Jun 10, 3:39 pm, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote:

  That's the same day as La Ruta Loca. Tough choice, but I'm going to
  miss both 'cuz I'll be backpacking.

  happy trails,
  jim mather
  wc ca

  On Jun 10, 1:19 pm, RonLau ron...@ronlau.com wrote:

   Chae Lee (aka i am a lineman for the county's) and I are going for a
   fixed/SS ride on July 10.

   Bring you fixedgear or SS and we can do the Paradise Loop again.  ~30
   miles if you start from Golden Gate Bridge.

   It will be a causal no drop ride, if you are strong and fast, you can
   climb everything twice.



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[RBW] Bleriot Paul Racer brake Question...

2010-06-10 Thread S.Cutshall
Anyone know:

Recessed or Non-Recessed mounting bolt variety on the Paul Racer
Center Mount brakes for the Bleriot?

Thanks-

-Scott

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[RBW] Re: SF/Marin Fixedgear/SS ride July 10, 2010

2010-06-10 Thread RonLau
Thank you Eric, after your 600k, you should have a good time in
Hawaii.  Well, have a good time in Hawaii.

On Jun 10, 1:55 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:
 If I didn't already have plans to be in Hawaii that day, I would join you.

 --Eric

 Sent from my iPad

 On Jun 10, 2010, at 1:19 PM, RonLau ron...@ronlau.com wrote:

  Chae Lee (aka i am a lineman for the county's) and I are going for a
  fixed/SS ride on July 10.

  Bring you fixedgear or SS and we can do the Paradise Loop again.  ~30
  miles if you start from Golden Gate Bridge.

  It will be a causal no drop ride, if you are strong and fast, you can
  climb everything twice.

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[RBW] Re: Mudflaps - inside fender or outside fender?

2010-06-10 Thread Lynne Fitz
my mudflaps are repurposed quart milk jugs :-)  I mount them inside.
If they were, say, leather, I'd mount them outside.

Nice lunchbox with reflector mount there, Alex!

Lynne F

On Jun 10, 7:33 am, amoll68 amol...@comcast.net wrote:
 Just piling on to concur with what's been said. Generally, I think the
 thick leather needs to be mounted outside for clearance reasons (in
 most applications.) Looks fine, and works great. If you've got plenty
 of clearance, inside mounting would be fine, too.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/39151...@n07/4222398641/in/set-721576229...

 Thin rubber mounted inside seems to be more classic/traditional. It
 does look good, too.

 Alex, near very rainy Seattle . . .

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[RBW] Re: New Rivendell dual drive

2010-06-10 Thread Johnny Alien
Wow! That looks so much better than I thought it would (the diagonal
tube).

On Jun 10, 7:33 pm, manueljohnacosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com
wrote:
 sweet pictures! thanks for the pictures bikes look interesting!

 On Jun 10, 3:54 pm, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote:



  I wandered by RBW today to get the Bikesnob book and a new 
  purse:http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/brand-v-grabsack/20-214
  Very nice bag, btw.

  While I was there, I got to take a spy shot of the new dual drive on
  the new Hunq:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986...@n04/4689448532/

  They're waiting for the left-hand derailer prototype before they hook
  it up. The new Hunq that they have is a 58, and rides sweet and
  strong.

  I also got a poor shot of the first Renovelo (the middle o is long)
  that you can see in the Flickr Riv group soon.

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[RBW] Re: Pari-Moto Ride Report

2010-06-10 Thread EricP
Steve - did you recently build the wheel?  Or were a spoke or two
replaced?  If either is correct and if there was lube used, that might
be the issue.  Might be some solvent didn't dry and attacked the
tube.

Jim Thill passed that wisdom on to me for the rear wheel I built for
the Sam Hillborne.  Let it air dry for two days before mounting a
tire.

Probably ain't it, but just a possibility.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Jun 10, 1:03�pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 08:54 -0700, Esteban wrote:
  I'd worry about the supple sidewalls rather than the tread.

 Why?

  � My plan
  is to use them for events or times when I want to maximize
  performance, and use Hetres everyday

 Do you plan to have two sets of wheels, or will you be removing and
 installing tires? �I am currently in the midst of mystery rim-side flat
 tire hell, and I'm having trouble imagining swapping tires without
 actually being compelled to do so.

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[RBW] Re: SF/Marin Fixedgear/SS ride July 10, 2010

2010-06-10 Thread RonLau
Patrick,

If you ever come out this way, I will go with you and you can have a
first hand experience with Paradise Loop.

There are few climbs, nothing too bad and tons of rollers.  Since you
are fixedgear rider, you will be able to kick those roadies behind on
those rollers.

Will take some pictures for you.

Ron

On Jun 10, 3:37 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Y'all make me envious; I'm stuck here in hot and windy Albuquerque. But I
 did a 23 mile hilly ride (well, it's hilly by my standards; MLK is 1 mile
 long) today on the Riv commuter to pick up some tires (thanks, Ryan).
 (Inbound via RG bike trail/mountain/ MLK/Copper; return via
 Washington/Diversion Channel bike path/ Commanche/Griegos/RG Blvd to
 Montano. Almost got sideswiped by a double trailer Sysco truck on Commanche,
 so if anyone from Sysco reads this, remember: I will sue your asses if you
 hit me and I remain alive.)

 Tell us about the terrain and the gearing ... and post some photos, if you
 can.



 On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote:
  Sweet!  I'll be there.

  On Jun 10, 1:19 pm, RonLau ron...@ronlau.com wrote:
   Chae Lee (aka i am a lineman for the county's) and I are going for a
   fixed/SS ride on July 10.

   Bring you fixedgear or SS and we can do the Paradise Loop again.  ~30
   miles if you start from Golden Gate Bridge.

   It will be a causal no drop ride, if you are strong and fast, you can
   climb everything twice.

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[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-10 Thread Lynne Fitz
I like my Acorn Boxy Bag.  The map case on top is wonderful, and the
turnbuckle closures on the rider-facing little pockets are so easy to
open and close with gloved fingers. Easier than elastic, for sure.
Mine currently sits on a VO Rando front rack (soon to be sitting on a
teeny custom front rack on a custom bicycle, counting, counting,
counting...), with the loop of the rack going through the leather on
the rider-facing side.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/sets/72157614173370630/

Holds lots of stuff.

On Jun 10, 3:43 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 15:33 -0700, GeorgeS wrote:
  I'm in total agreement about the Berthoud bag with a decaleur.  I've
  tried a number of different handlebar bags and this is the best by
  far.  Be sure to measure the room you have for mounting and get the
  right size.  I also agree that the elastic bands are much easier to
  use than the leather strap luxe model.

 The pockets inside the top flap on the deluxe bags are nice.  There's a
 place that's perfect for a brevet card, and there's a zippered pocket
 that makes a nice place to stash a $20 and forget it until you need it.
 The model with the elastics lacks those features.  But it's true, it is
 definitely easier to get into the elastic-closed pockets than the
 straps.

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[RBW] Re: Bleriot Paul Racer brake Question...

2010-06-10 Thread Lynne Fitz
just hypothesizing here - I've got the Riv Silvers (Tektro R556)
brakes on mine, with the recessed bolt.  If all recessed bolts are the
same, it ought to work out.

On Jun 10, 5:37 pm, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote:
 Anyone know:

 Recessed or Non-Recessed mounting bolt variety on the Paul Racer
 Center Mount brakes for the Bleriot?

 Thanks-

 -Scott

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[RBW] New Brand V Bags

2010-06-10 Thread Brad Gantt
Just saw the back-in-stock-n-redesigned Brand V Boxy Bag and Seat Bag.
I really love the size and functionality of the seat bag. It seems
small but holds a ton. Looks like some nice improvements in the Boxy
particularly. Anyone want to buy a barely-used older version. :)

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Re: [RBW] Re: SF/Marin Fixedgear/SS ride July 10, 2010

2010-06-10 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Thanks very much, Ron, I'd love to see the photos; roads, rides and don't
forget the bikes.

My mile-high lungs would leave you all in my dust; maybe. Or maybe not.
Anyway, it sounds wonderful and I wish I could ride it.

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 6:51 PM, RonLau ron...@ronlau.com wrote:

 Patrick,

 If you ever come out this way, I will go with you and you can have a
 first hand experience with Paradise Loop.



 There are few climbs, nothing too bad and tons of rollers.  Since you
 are fixedgear rider, you will be able to kick those roadies behind on
 those rollers.

 Will take some pictures for you.

 Ron

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Re: [RBW] New Brand V Bags

2010-06-10 Thread BPustow
Can't comment on the Boxy bag but the seat bag sucks. On two  occasions on 
brevets the Velcro fasteners opened and the bag was not  even fully loaded. 
Even when it has the basics (tubes, tire irons, basic  tools, etc., it sort 
of hangs there. It is certainly not of the quality of the  original Kevin's 
bag.
   I would not buy it (again).
Bill
Louisville, Ky
 
 
In a message dated 6/10/2010 8:56:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
brdg...@gmail.com writes:

Just saw  the back-in-stock-n-redesigned Brand V Boxy Bag and Seat Bag.
I really love  the size and functionality of the seat bag. It seems
small but holds a ton.  Looks like some nice improvements in the Boxy
particularly. Anyone want to  buy a barely-used older version.  :)

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Re: [RBW] New Brand V Bags

2010-06-10 Thread Seth Vidal
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 9:18 PM,  bpus...@aol.com wrote:
    Can't comment on the Boxy bag but the seat bag sucks. On two occasions on
 brevets the Velcro fasteners opened and the bag was not even fully loaded.
 Even when it has the basics (tubes, tire irons, basic tools, etc., it sort
 of hangs there. It is certainly not of the quality of the original Kevin's
 bag.
    I would not buy it (again).


I had a problem with my brand-v seatbag velcro straps popping off.
There's a relatively easy fix to this problem.

put the top part of the velcro through the bag loop first then fasten
it to the bottom part then slide both parts so that the top and bottom
part are hanging from the bag loop.
That way the velcro is just holding them together but the strap is
holding them up.

-sv

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[RBW] Re: New Rivendell dual drive and pics of New Hunq

2010-06-10 Thread Bill M.
At first glance I thought the mid-tube was a bit low, but add a frame
fit pump along the top tube and it should balance out about right.
I'd prefer this to the high-mounted parallel top tubes.

I only see one set of bottle bosses, on the down tube.  I'd guess the
mid-tube would get a second set of bosses?

Bill

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 And I should add, a pic of the whole, new, unpainted 
 Hunq:http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986...@n04/4689448618/in/pool-1358...@n23

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[RBW] Newest Latest

2010-06-10 Thread Rick
After considering it for several years too long, I finally put my
internal AHH/Atlantis debate to bed and acquired the latter.  Only a
couple of photos here, but nary a twinge of buyer's remorse, this tank
glides.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/92441...@n00/sets/72157624124241965/

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Re: [RBW] New Rivendell dual drive

2010-06-10 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote:


 While I was there, I got to take a spy shot of the new dual drive on
 the new Hunq:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986...@n04/4689448532/

 What is this, exactly? And why?

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[RBW] Re: SF/Marin Fixedgear/SS ride July 10, 2010

2010-06-10 Thread Bill M.
Funny thing, I just reconfigured my '95 Riv Road as a fixed gear.
Riding in a 39/17 for now, but I have a 44 on the way.

I'll have to see if I can BART down for this ride.  Anyone else coming
in from parts east that would be starting from the Embarcadero
station?

Bill

On Jun 10, 1:19 pm, RonLau ron...@ronlau.com wrote:
 Chae Lee (aka i am a lineman for the county's) and I are going for a
 fixed/SS ride on July 10.

 Bring you fixedgear or SS and we can do the Paradise Loop again.  ~30
 miles if you start from Golden Gate Bridge.

 It will be a causal no drop ride, if you are strong and fast, you can
 climb everything twice.

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Re: [RBW] Newest Latest

2010-06-10 Thread Ray Shine
Great looking!  what's the color?





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To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, June 10, 2010 6:42:44 PM
Subject: [RBW] Newest Latest

After considering it for several years too long, I finally put my
internal AHH/Atlantis debate to bed and acquired the latter.  Only a
couple of photos here, but nary a twinge of buyer's remorse, this tank
glides.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/92441...@n00/sets/72157624124241965/

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[RBW] Re: Bleriot Paul Racer brake Question...

2010-06-10 Thread Dave G
I have Racers on my Bleriot, and the mounting bolts are recesssed.  I
use a set of Sheldon Fender Nuts (available from Riv) instead of the
supplied nuts, but the supplied nuts are fine.

Dave

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[RBW] Re: New Rivendell dual drive

2010-06-10 Thread Jim M.
Like William said, the totally symmetric hub will add strength, a dual
drive will deliver more torque for heavy loads, and you have a
redundant system in case you break a derailer in the middle of
nowhere.  ;-)


Actually, they slapped it together with what they had lying around. I
didn't ask why they had 2 drive arms and no left arms.

jim

On Jun 10, 5:51 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

  What is this, exactly? And why?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Pari-Moto Ride Report

2010-06-10 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 17:50 -0700, EricP wrote:
 Steve - did you recently build the wheel?  Or were a spoke or two
 replaced?  If either is correct and if there was lube used, that might
 be the issue.  Might be some solvent didn't dry and attacked the
 tube.

No, the only thing that was new about the wheels was the tubes.  I
installed new rim strips, and today I got another rim-side puncture.  I
haven't taken things apart, but I would be very surprised to see
anything.  I suspect a batch of defective tubes.



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[RBW] Re: Newest Latest

2010-06-10 Thread Rick


On Jun 10, 9:47 pm, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Great looking!  what's the color?

Neighborhood of the pea sage green. The exchange I had with Grant when
I requested it went something like:

That's kind of gray-green, you know.
I guess I'm thinking more green than gray.
Well, that will be real helpful for the painters, Rick.

Turned out most satisfactory.

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Re: [RBW] New Brand V Bags

2010-06-10 Thread Brian Hanson
That's how I've done mine from the start.  It works great - never had the
releasing velcro problem.

Brian

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 9:18 PM,  bpus...@aol.com wrote:
 Can't comment on the Boxy bag but the seat bag sucks. On two occasions
 on
  brevets the Velcro fasteners opened and the bag was not even fully
 loaded.
  Even when it has the basics (tubes, tire irons, basic tools, etc., it
 sort
  of hangs there. It is certainly not of the quality of the original
 Kevin's
  bag.
 I would not buy it (again).


 I had a problem with my brand-v seatbag velcro straps popping off.
 There's a relatively easy fix to this problem.

 put the top part of the velcro through the bag loop first then fasten
 it to the bottom part then slide both parts so that the top and bottom
 part are hanging from the bag loop.
 That way the velcro is just holding them together but the strap is
 holding them up.

 -sv

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[RBW] Re: Newest Latest

2010-06-10 Thread Mitch Browne
Rick what size is your frame and Schwalbe's? Also, I heartily agree
that the tank glides :)

Cheers, Mitch.

On Jun 10, 6:58 pm, Rick richardholc...@yahoo.com wrote:
 On Jun 10, 9:47 pm, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

  Great looking!  what's the color?

 Neighborhood of the pea sage green. The exchange I had with Grant when
 I requested it went something like:

 That's kind of gray-green, you know.
 I guess I'm thinking more green than gray.
 Well, that will be real helpful for the painters, Rick.

 Turned out most satisfactory.

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[RBW] Sale at Bruce Gordon Cycles

2010-06-10 Thread Bruce Gordon
Sorry about the Shameless Self-Promotion

Check out our Sale - http://tinyurl.com/2ufvhod


Regards,

Bruce Gordon 

Bruce Gordon Cycles

www.bgcycles.com



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Re: [RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-10 Thread Brian Hanson
I have an Acorn Boxy - just got it to match my Large Saddlebag for my
Hilsen.  Initial comments before riding:

1. I like the fact that it mounts low and is easy on/off
2. It is well made and seems very stable
3. It's on the small side, so make sure it's big enough for what you will
use it for
4. I'm still looking with lust at the Riv BarSack - quality looks awesome -
just don't like the high mount when I have a perfectly good rack to put it
on.

Brian

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:

 On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 15:33 -0700, GeorgeS wrote:
  I'm in total agreement about the Berthoud bag with a decaleur.  I've
  tried a number of different handlebar bags and this is the best by
  far.  Be sure to measure the room you have for mounting and get the
  right size.  I also agree that the elastic bands are much easier to
  use than the leather strap luxe model.

 The pockets inside the top flap on the deluxe bags are nice.  There's a
 place that's perfect for a brevet card, and there's a zippered pocket
 that makes a nice place to stash a $20 and forget it until you need it.
 The model with the elastics lacks those features.  But it's true, it is
 definitely easier to get into the elastic-closed pockets than the
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[RBW] Re: Bleriot Paul Racer brake Question...

2010-06-10 Thread J. Burkhalter
 I have Racers on my Bleriot, and the mounting bolts are recesssed.  I
 use a set of Sheldon Fender Nuts (available from Riv) instead of the
 supplied nuts, but the supplied nuts are fine.


ditto, for me.  i have a 57cm, and with the Racers and Hetres, there
is a room to spare, even with fenders.

-jay
denver, co

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[RBW] Re: Newest Latest

2010-06-10 Thread Michael_S
very nice!  I have been looking at a custom painted Atlantis and I
like that color.  Enjoy

On Jun 10, 8:27 pm, Mitch Browne mitch.bro...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rick what size is your frame and Schwalbe's? Also, I heartily agree
 that the tank glides :)

 Cheers, Mi.
tch.

 On Jun 10, 6:58 pm, Rick richardholc...@yahoo.com wrote:



  On Jun 10, 9:47 pm, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

   Great looking!  what's the color?

  Neighborhood of the pea sage green. The exchange I had with Grant when
  I requested it went something like:

  That's kind of gray-green, you know.
  I guess I'm thinking more green than gray.
  Well, that will be real helpful for the painters, Rick.

  Turned out most satisfactory.- Hide quoted text -

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Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal River Ride?

2010-06-10 Thread cyclotourist
Too cool Andrew!  Looks like a GREAT century route!

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:12 PM, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote:

 update on the ride.. i did it :)

 here are some pics of the Sam on the ride, fully kitted out, including
 rider:
 http://salamander.net/stage/LARiverRide2010/

 the ride itself was pretty awesome.  first several miles were through the
 hills of Griffith Park, and then onto the LA River bike path.. then a
 handful of mile through downtown LA.. back on a river bike path.. to Long
 Beach Aquarium, then through into Orange County (Seal Beach).

 here is a route map:
 http://tinyurl.com/232chez

 the only problems I had were with my right knee having increasing issues
 starting around mile 50.. after about 20 more miles i figured out it was due
 to having not enough float in the clip-in pedals on that side.  i thought
 ahead and had brought some light canvas shoes (and had pedals with a flat,
 non-spd side) so swapped to those shoes for the last 25 miles and found
 myself sprinting the last portion after my knee freed up and stopped
 hurting.

 the Sam performed flawlessly - an extremely comfy if somewhat slow ride -
 it took me about 8 hours to do the whole thing... a lot of that slow time
 was due to meandering around downtown LA and urban Seal Beach with lots of
 stops and starts, lights, etc..  but i felt tall and sporty, especially
 compared to the elephants-on-tricycles look that 95% of the riders on their
 tiny road bikes had.

 everyone loved it too - i got dozens of nice bike!! comments.. and a few
 wtf is that?!?.   people were very impressed with my emcorkened bar ends,
 too :)   one of the booth mechanics who helped me adjust the indexed shifter
 (which was skipping a ring) wondered if i'd restored a classic.

 i also saw another Sam on the River path - not doing the ride, but he had
 come down from downtown to take advantage of the nice day.. though i saw him
 with the bike up-ended and fixing a flat..   i'm forgetting his name - Matt?
 - he is on this list, though a lurker.. but it was funny to see another Sam.
  i didn't see ANY other Rivs, though someone told me there was yet another
 Sam on the course ahead of me.

 sooo.. my first Century down.  not my last, though i might carry less on
 the bike next time or swap in a lighter wheelset/tire setup.

 best,
 andrew



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[RBW] Re: Bleriot Paul Racer brake Question...

2010-06-10 Thread S.Cutshall
Thanks folks...

Recessed it is then.

-Scott

On Jun 10, 8:43 pm, J. Burkhalter burk...@yahoo.com wrote:
  I have Racers on my Bleriot, and the mounting bolts are recesssed.  I
  use a set of Sheldon Fender Nuts (available from Riv) instead of the
  supplied nuts, but the supplied nuts are fine.

 ditto, for me.  i have a 57cm, and with the Racers and Hetres, there
 is a room to spare, even with fenders.

 -jay
 denver, co

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Re: [RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-10 Thread Gino Zahnd
The Inujirushi bag has been good to me over the course of 10,000+ miles.
Still looks great.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/3114530816/in/set-72157602102746272/
http://jitensha.com/eng/inujirushibags.html

I personally have found the Berthoud bags harder to use en route, but eh,
you'll probably be happy with any of the
RBW/Berthoud/Acorn/Inujirushi/Watanabe options.

Gino


On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have an Acorn Boxy - just got it to match my Large Saddlebag for my
 Hilsen.  Initial comments before riding:

 1. I like the fact that it mounts low and is easy on/off
 2. It is well made and seems very stable
 3. It's on the small side, so make sure it's big enough for what you will
 use it for
 4. I'm still looking with lust at the Riv BarSack - quality looks awesome -
 just don't like the high mount when I have a perfectly good rack to put it
 on.

 Brian


 On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:

 On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 15:33 -0700, GeorgeS wrote:
  I'm in total agreement about the Berthoud bag with a decaleur.  I've
  tried a number of different handlebar bags and this is the best by
  far.  Be sure to measure the room you have for mounting and get the
  right size.  I also agree that the elastic bands are much easier to
  use than the leather strap luxe model.

 The pockets inside the top flap on the deluxe bags are nice.  There's a
 place that's perfect for a brevet card, and there's a zippered pocket
 that makes a nice place to stash a $20 and forget it until you need it.
 The model with the elastics lacks those features.  But it's true, it is
 definitely easier to get into the elastic-closed pockets than the
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[RBW] Re: New Brand V Bags

2010-06-10 Thread Joe Bernard
It's hook  loop, it's never going to hold a load like metal or
plastic buckles. The procedure described above seems like a simple
solution. The seat bag sucks is a little strong, IMO.

On Jun 10, 8:27 pm, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's how I've done mine from the start.  It works great - never had the
 releasing velcro problem.

 Brian



 On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 9:18 PM,  bpus...@aol.com wrote:
      Can't comment on the Boxy bag but the seat bag sucks. On two occasions
  on
   brevets the Velcro fasteners opened and the bag was not even fully
  loaded.
   Even when it has the basics (tubes, tire irons, basic tools, etc., it
  sort
   of hangs there. It is certainly not of the quality of the original
  Kevin's
   bag.
      I would not buy it (again).

  I had a problem with my brand-v seatbag velcro straps popping off.
  There's a relatively easy fix to this problem.

  put the top part of the velcro through the bag loop first then fasten
  it to the bottom part then slide both parts so that the top and bottom
  part are hanging from the bag loop.
  That way the velcro is just holding them together but the strap is
  holding them up.

  -sv

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[RBW] FS - Grip King Pedals

2010-06-10 Thread Rene Sterental
Upon Keven's recommendation to address my foot pain, I changed the pedals on
both my bikes to the MKS RMX Sneaker pedals. So far so good (2 x 6+ mile
rides).

I am now selling my two pairs of Grip King pedals. Set #1 (Bombadil) has
350+ miles; selling for $40 + shipping. Might have a few scratches. Set #2
(Homer) has 20+ miles; selling for $45 + shipping. Pretty much brand new.

Payment via PayPal; will notify buyer of shipping cost before shipping.

E-mail me off-list if you're interested.

René

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Re: [RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-10 Thread rswatson




On Jun 10, 2010, at 10:18 PM, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote:

 The Inujirushi bag has been good to me over the course of 10,000+ miles. 
 Still looks great.
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/3114530816/in/set-72157602102746272/
 http://jitensha.com/eng/inujirushibags.html
 
 I personally have found the Berthoud bags harder to use en route, but eh, 
 you'll probably be happy with any of the 
 RBW/Berthoud/Acorn/Inujirushi/Watanabe options.

What did you find harder to use about the Berthouds?
I replaced my Inujirushi with a Berthoud for the easier access! My Inujirushi 
opened the wrong way (away from me when riding). 

Ryan






 
 Gino
 
 
 On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have an Acorn Boxy - just got it to match my Large Saddlebag for my Hilsen. 
  Initial comments before riding:
 
 1. I like the fact that it mounts low and is easy on/off
 2. It is well made and seems very stable
 3. It's on the small side, so make sure it's big enough for what you will use 
 it for
 4. I'm still looking with lust at the Riv BarSack - quality looks awesome - 
 just don't like the high mount when I have a perfectly good rack to put it on.
 
 Brian
 
 
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 On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 15:33 -0700, GeorgeS wrote:
  I'm in total agreement about the Berthoud bag with a decaleur.  I've
  tried a number of different handlebar bags and this is the best by
  far.  Be sure to measure the room you have for mounting and get the
  right size.  I also agree that the elastic bands are much easier to
  use than the leather strap luxe model.
 
 The pockets inside the top flap on the deluxe bags are nice.  There's a
 place that's perfect for a brevet card, and there's a zippered pocket
 that makes a nice place to stash a $20 and forget it until you need it.
 The model with the elastics lacks those features.  But it's true, it is
 definitely easier to get into the elastic-closed pockets than the
 straps.
 
 
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-10 Thread Gino Zahnd
I found the inner opening more difficult - having to fish it through the
decaleur to open and/or close took more attention that reaching over the
Inujirushi, for me. They're both super nice bags though, and both beautiful.




 What did you find harder to use about the Berthouds?
 I replaced my Inujirushi with a Berthoud for the easier access! My
 Inujirushi opened the wrong way (away from me when riding).

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[RBW] Re: SF/Marin Fixedgear/SS ride July 10, 2010

2010-06-10 Thread RonLau
Bill,

That will be great, and you will have a 3 to 4 miles warm up ahead of
us.

Ron

On Jun 10, 6:47 pm, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote:
 Funny thing, I just reconfigured my '95 Riv Road as a fixed gear.
 Riding in a 39/17 for now, but I have a 44 on the way.

 I'll have to see if I can BART down for this ride.  Anyone else coming
 in from parts east that would be starting from the Embarcadero
 station?

 Bill

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  Chae Lee (aka i am a lineman for the county's) and I are going for a
  fixed/SS ride on July 10.

  Bring you fixedgear or SS and we can do the Paradise Loop again.  ~30
  miles if you start from Golden Gate Bridge.

  It will be a causal no drop ride, if you are strong and fast, you can
  climb everything twice.



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[RBW] Re: SF/Marin Fixedgear/SS ride July 10, 2010

2010-06-10 Thread RonLau
Patrick,

I think your lung will leave us in the dust, but the turns around here
will slow you down so I can catch you.

Most turns is not by design but developed via horse trail for trees,
so they can be very tricky.  Mt. Hamilton is the best example that I
know.

Ron

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 Thanks very much, Ron, I'd love to see the photos; roads, rides and don't
 forget the bikes.

 My mile-high lungs would leave you all in my dust; maybe. Or maybe not.
 Anyway, it sounds wonderful and I wish I could ride it.

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  Patrick,

  If you ever come out this way, I will go with you and you can have a
  first hand experience with Paradise Loop.

  There are few climbs, nothing too bad and tons of rollers.  Since you
  are fixedgear rider, you will be able to kick those roadies behind on
  those rollers.

  Will take some pictures for you.

  Ron

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[RBW] Re: SF/Marin Fixedgear/SS ride July 10, 2010

2010-06-10 Thread Lee
Bill, I'm in the Mission. If you get off at the 16th Mission BART
station, I'll come down and meet you. Then, we can ride up to the
bridge together.

Esteban, will you be in area then?

Lee

On Jun 10, 6:47 pm, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote:
 Funny thing, I just reconfigured my '95 Riv Road as a fixed gear.
 Riding in a 39/17 for now, but I have a 44 on the way.

 I'll have to see if I can BART down for this ride.  Anyone else coming
 in from parts east that would be starting from the Embarcadero
 station?

 Bill

 On Jun 10, 1:19 pm, RonLau ron...@ronlau.com wrote:



  Chae Lee (aka i am a lineman for the county's) and I are going for a
  fixed/SS ride on July 10.

  Bring you fixedgear or SS and we can do the Paradise Loop again.  ~30
  miles if you start from Golden Gate Bridge.

  It will be a causal no drop ride, if you are strong and fast, you can
  climb everything twice.

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Re: [RBW] Re: SF/Marin Fixedgear/SS ride July 10, 2010

2010-06-10 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Change of pace: was it you who sold me or traded that nice little Canon SD
300? If so, can you tell me how to erase files on the memory cards? On all
my other (much inferior) cameras, erasing memory via the computer works.
With the Canon, I erase the files when displayed on the computer, but the
cards still read occupied, and, in one case, full.

I am generally familiar with the Canon's controls but can't find any setting
or choice or menu that has delete.

Thanks.

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 Patrick,

 I think your lung will leave us in the dust, but the turns around here
 will slow you down so I can catch you.

 Most turns is not by design but developed via horse trail for trees,
 so they can be very tricky.  Mt. Hamilton is the best example that I
 know.

 Ron

 On Jun 10, 5:55 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks very much, Ron, I'd love to see the photos; roads, rides and don't
  forget the bikes.
 
  My mile-high lungs would leave you all in my dust; maybe. Or maybe not.
  Anyway, it sounds wonderful and I wish I could ride it.
 
  On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 6:51 PM, RonLau ron...@ronlau.com wrote:
   Patrick,
 
   If you ever come out this way, I will go with you and you can have a
   first hand experience with Paradise Loop.
 
   There are few climbs, nothing too bad and tons of rollers.  Since you
   are fixedgear rider, you will be able to kick those roadies behind on
   those rollers.
 
   Will take some pictures for you.
 
   Ron
 
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