[RBW] Re: B17 vs Team Pro... any direct comparison wisdom?
The Colt is already available. Initial impressions I have heard are that the saddle is very hard and not terribly comfortable. Apparently it is meant to be a race type saddle for the heavier rider. On Sep 16, 10:37 pm, Chris Halasz chal...@gmail.com wrote: In another month or two, these beauties will be available from Brooks: http://bikereviews.com/2010/06/new-products-from-brooks-saddles/ - Chris Tucson, AZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: B17 vs Team Pro... any direct comparison wisdom?
I'm looking forward to a select B17. If it's simply a thicker stiffer B17 Special that'd be beautiful (unless they cost $300 or something; that'd be ridiculous). Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Sep 17, 2010, at 8:06 AM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: The Colt is already available. Initial impressions I have heard are that the saddle is very hard and not terribly comfortable. Apparently it is meant to be a race type saddle for the heavier rider. On Sep 16, 10:37 pm, Chris Halasz chal...@gmail.com wrote: In another month or two, these beauties will be available from Brooks: http://bikereviews.com/2010/06/new-products-from-brooks-saddles/ - Chris Tucson, AZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: B17 vs Team Pro... any direct comparison wisdom?
On Sep 17, 2010, at 8:06 AM, JoelMatthews wrote: The Colt is already available. Initial impressions I have heard are that the saddle is very hard and not terribly comfortable. Apparently it is meant to be a race type saddle for the heavier rider. I have one of the old Colts that I bout 10 years ago, when it looked like Brooks was going away forever. I think I paid $25 for it, discovered it in a bike shop in Cannon Falls MN into which my wife and I stopped randomly. I've never ridden it, it's on one of my wife's bikes. She seems to do OK with it although she prefers the Pro S saddles on her other bikes. It's narrow, about like a Pro or a B.17N. The leather is thick like the old Pros were; it would take some break-in but would end up being an old friend like my 34 year old Pro on my Riv (which I bout just after graduating from high school and it took about 2 years to fully break in. It is the most comfortable saddle I have ever ridden). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Continental GrandPrix 4 season 700x28
After reading all the hype about the Challenge Paris-Roubaix tires I decided to order a pair for my new custom Randonnering bike. I had read about the low rolling resistance and supple ride which all sounded great. I've read about the fact that they were not very sturdy when it came to road debris and stuff, but it couldn't be that bad. I don't ride in the inner city so I figured that I would not have too many flats to be worried. When I got the package and felt the thread thicknesses it was so thin and delicate that I've decided to return them. Now I need to find a 28-30mm tire that is reasonably fast and durable. The Paselas seem ok, I have 35's on our tandem and 32's on my urban bike . I was looking for something a little better. The Roly Polys seem like an option. And perhaps the Grand Bois, but I hear they are flat prone too. The Continental GP 4000 4 seasons seem like a good compromise. Does anyone have experience with these? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Continental GrandPrix 4 season 700x28
I'm riding Ruffy Tuffy's and love them. On Sep 17, 11:43 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: After reading all the hype about the Challenge Paris-Roubaix tires I decided to order a pair for my new custom Randonnering bike. I had read about the low rolling resistance and supple ride which all sounded great. I've read about the fact that they were not very sturdy when it came to road debris and stuff, but it couldn't be that bad. I don't ride in the inner city so I figured that I would not have too many flats to be worried. When I got the package and felt the thread thicknesses it was so thin and delicate that I've decided to return them. Now I need to find a 28-30mm tire that is reasonably fast and durable. The Paselas seem ok, I have 35's on our tandem and 32's on my urban bike . I was looking for something a little better. The Roly Polys seem like an option. And perhaps the Grand Bois, but I hear they are flat prone too. The Continental GP 4000 4 seasons seem like a good compromise. Does anyone have experience with these? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Continental GrandPrix 4 season 700x28
So, you never even tried them? Plenty of tires feel delicate in the hand but hold up well while riding. I've been using the Grand Bois Cerf (700x28c size) on my Rivendell. They don't feel overly robust and they worried me a bit, but they have proven themselves over time. The only bit of bad luck I've had was a small piece of metal which sliced one through the casing. I've gotten a few flats from random thorns as well, but really no more than I've gotten with other tires. The ride quality on these tires is incredible and they really do run faster than other tires I've used. They are faster and nicer riding than the Ruffy Tuffys or Roly-Polys. I highly recommend them and trust me, I was skeptical at first. Joe Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 08:43:24 -0700 Subject: [RBW] Continental GrandPrix 4 season 700x28 From: mikeybi...@rocketmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com After reading all the hype about the Challenge Paris-Roubaix tires I decided to order a pair for my new custom Randonnering bike. I had read about the low rolling resistance and supple ride which all sounded great. I've read about the fact that they were not very sturdy when it came to road debris and stuff, but it couldn't be that bad. I don't ride in the inner city so I figured that I would not have too many flats to be worried. When I got the package and felt the thread thicknesses it was so thin and delicate that I've decided to return them. Now I need to find a 28-30mm tire that is reasonably fast and durable. The Paselas seem ok, I have 35's on our tandem and 32's on my urban bike . I was looking for something a little better. The Roly Polys seem like an option. And perhaps the Grand Bois, but I hear they are flat prone too. The Continental GP 4000 4 seasons seem like a good compromise. Does anyone have experience with these? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers
on my last two week trip with coupled Rambouillet, I did the reassemble on the lawn in front of my hotel. That took about 45 minutes and I had stuff strewn all over the lawn. Lot's of parts, pads, tools, etc. This was a typical assembly location. When the trip was over, I was offered the use of a conference room inside the hotel as the location to do the disassemble and packing. Indoors with no distractions and a banquet table is my preferred venue. All was smooth, quiet and having a place to put tools and lean the bike can make a subtle difference. On Sep 17, 8:35 am, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: I have a Surly Traveler's Check which is the Cross Check with SS couplers. It has been absolutely one of my best purchases ever. No problem with the airlines. No big bulky bike box with the threat of enormous fees and/or outright rejection hanging over the trip. No danger of severe damage or loss of pieces coming out of the box. The peace of mind in traveling, for me, is priceless. That's why the cost effective argument doesn't make sense. One may be willing to live with the downsides of airline travel with the bike in a card board box rather than pay the admittedly high cost of couplers and case. That's a matter of personal preference. But what one cannot do is obtain the advantages of a coupled bike for less money than the cost of couplers and a hard case. There is also the assembly/disassembly problem. It takes me approximately one hour to unpack and get the bike ready to ride and a little more time to disassemble and pack the bike. For me, if I'm going for a multi-week trip, the time spent on assembly/ disasembly is insignificant. If the trip is for a couple of days, I'll take the Brompton. Again, it's a matter of what one is willing to put up with. If the assembly/disassembly time is so unpleasant and frustrating that it threatens to spoil one's vacation, then the couplers are not worth the cost whatever that is. GeorgeS On Sep 16, 8:11 pm, Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net wrote: I sent my Bleriot frame off to Bilenky for SS couplers before I built it up. Bleriot was also, until recently, my randonneuring bike. Seems to work just fine :-) No problems. It has also been packed and taken on airplanes many times (Europe twice. Mostly to the family summer place). No problems ever. No extra charge because it was a bicycle, ever. At most, the piece of luggage charge. I expect I could try to rationalize the cost - I had the conversion done before the SS price increase. I figured couplers, case, and packing accessories added $1000 to the cost. 10 flights with a non- coupled bike would have been that much in extra luggage charges. Or renting a bike at my destination. Having MY go-to bicycle at my destination that fits ME... priceless. http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/sets/72157594509789929/with/32... As it is, my new custom rando bike also has SS couplers, but I didn't have to buy the case and packing accessories, because I've already got them. One of my bikes will be going to Ireland next summer; haven't decided which one. Lynne F On Sep 15, 7:32 pm, Kip Otteson kip.otte...@gmail.com wrote: I noticed yesterday that my kickstand was sitting at a very awkward angle. I moved it a little and I could see that my kickstand plate was ripping off of my frame. I have a Pletscher double kickstand on the Bombadil and I think that when it was parked at school someone sat on it and bent it all up. Bummer deal. I took off the kickstand and now am really old-new school with a bike I have to lean up against things, like in the old days. I was worried that the chainstays would be hammered as well but they look fine. I'll have to wait till I'm back in the states to get it fixed properly. BTW - I thought that if I was going to get the frame fixed I'd be looking at sending it to Bilenky Bike Works and getting S and S couplers fitted for a more travel friendly machine. Anybody out there experienced converting a frame to a travel bike? Kip Otteson Chiang Mai, Thailand- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: B17 vs Team Pro... any direct comparison wisdom?
Colt and cutaway saddles in general The flaps that get cut off are part of the saddle's structure. Without the flaps, the saddle sags sooner. The Swallow deals with it by riveting the two sides together underneath, but I've never seen a well- ridden Swallow (mostly they go on Show Bikes, not Go Bikes), so I don't know how well it works. Just because I haven't seen it and don't know doesn't mean they aren't out there, and it works great. The Colt deals with it, if it continues to deal with it the way it did when it was introduced in the '80s, by overtensioning. That's what goes on with the Swift, too, and you can see it manifested as a slight dolphin-hump from front to back. It's always kind of funny when mouths talk for crotches, but when my mouth channels my crotch, it says, Hey man, that hump puts a lot of pressure right where I don't need it. I got the first two Colts in this country way back then, as gifts, and I wanted to love that saddle, but I couldn't do it. Another thing to examine is the rail shape. On the Swift (152mm wide, compared to 160 for the Pro and 170 for the B.17), the rails stop being parallel farther from the nose, which means you can't shove them back as far. Everybody I know except Keven shoves his/her saddle back as far as it'll go, and 90 percent wish it would go back more. I think, but as always I don't know, that the rail shape is guided by the cutaway leather, meaning the designer doesn't like the look of parallel rails way far forward on a cutaway saddle. I'd like to end this on an up-for-Brooks note. The saddles delivered since the Italians bought Brooks in 2004 or whenever...have been better than the earlier ones. I think Brooks is overplaying the Heritage card, but that may be necessary to reach a younger audience who isn't familiar with it. The boxes are suspiciously stout---who needs 'em that thick and cleverly comparmentalized?--but overall, it's still the saddle to beat, and the Brooks saddles of today are the best ones that I can remember. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Continental GrandPrix 4 season 700x28
I just started using a pair of 700x28 Schwalbe Ultremo's. I'm very impressed with their ride quality and they are proving to be a tough tire too. I reach down and glove wipe them if I've ridden through glass, etc. No flats so far. jim m wc ca On Sep 17, 8:43 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: After reading all the hype about the Challenge Paris-Roubaix tires I decided to order a pair for my new custom Randonnering bike. I had read about the low rolling resistance and supple ride which all sounded great. I've read about the fact that they were not very sturdy when it came to road debris and stuff, but it couldn't be that bad. I don't ride in the inner city so I figured that I would not have too many flats to be worried. When I got the package and felt the thread thicknesses it was so thin and delicate that I've decided to return them. Now I need to find a 28-30mm tire that is reasonably fast and durable. The Paselas seem ok, I have 35's on our tandem and 32's on my urban bike . I was looking for something a little better. The Roly Polys seem like an option. And perhaps the Grand Bois, but I hear they are flat prone too. The Continental GP 4000 4 seasons seem like a good compromise. Does anyone have experience with these? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Continental GrandPrix 4 season 700x28
I've been riding the Parigi-Roubaix since they were reintroduced a couple years back. They're awesome. I'd hardly describe them as delicate. I've had a few flats, to be sure, but no more than you'd expect from any other performance-oriented tire with supple casings and thin tread. I've even ridden them off-road on fire trails -- certainly not the best application for them, but they (and I) survived intact. If I may be so bold as to say: I think you're blowin' it by not giving them a try. Aaron On Sep 17, 8:43 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: After reading all the hype about the Challenge Paris-Roubaix tires I decided to order a pair for my new custom Randonnering bike. I had read about the low rolling resistance and supple ride which all sounded great. I've read about the fact that they were not very sturdy when it came to road debris and stuff, but it couldn't be that bad. I don't ride in the inner city so I figured that I would not have too many flats to be worried. When I got the package and felt the thread thicknesses it was so thin and delicate that I've decided to return them. Now I need to find a 28-30mm tire that is reasonably fast and durable. The Paselas seem ok, I have 35's on our tandem and 32's on my urban bike . I was looking for something a little better. The Roly Polys seem like an option. And perhaps the Grand Bois, but I hear they are flat prone too. The Continental GP 4000 4 seasons seem like a good compromise. Does anyone have experience with these? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Sugino XD2 crankset, 170mm
I found another crankset in my boxes as I'm packing to move. Same thing as last time, but new logo. Sugino XD2 , 170mm, new logo rings: 46x36x24 They're in good used shape, and the rings have many thousands of miles left in them. These were on my Rawland MTB, so have some scrapes at the pedal end of the crank. Otherwise, great. They might have 5-600 miles on them. $80 including shipping, US only. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Exustar SRT707 Touring Shoes, Size 41, New
Perfect and beautiful, but bought the wrong size. $75.00 shipped CONUS; Paypal preferred. -- Jon ³Papa² Grant Illustration + Information Graphics Austin, Texas jgr...@papagrant.com 512-284-9599 Drawings ‹ all sorts -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers
I just recently flew from DC to Seattle and back on Delta Airlines with my SS coupled bike packed in an SS soft case. No charge beyond the piece of luggage charge of $23. In five round-trip flights with the SS case, no one has ever asked me what was in the case. It's just an airline-legal-size piece of baggage, so why would they ask? They don't ask what any of my other luggage is, either. TSA has looked at the contents several times, judging by straps that are undone on arrival. Economics of SS couplers: Delta currently charges $200 for bikes, so a round-trip costs $400. Three trips pays for your couplers + case. Airtran charges $80 each way. I wouldn't get a soft case again, I think that a hard case does a better job of protecting the bike. I don't think the bike has ever experienced actual damage en route, but it just seems like the hard case would do a better job. It takes about 30 to 45 minutes to either unpack or pack the bike. I have a set of photos to remind me of what packing order works. Nick On Sep 16, 9:42 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 18:11 -0700, Lynne Fitz wrote: I expect I could try to rationalize the cost - I had the conversion done before the SS price increase. I figured couplers, case, and packing accessories added $1000 to the cost. 10 flights with a non- coupled bike would have been that much in extra luggage charges. However, now you still pay the extra charge because it's a bicycle no matter how small it packs down, right? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: B17 vs Team Pro... any direct comparison wisdom?
For those who think Brooks has been going soft.. (I love the headline) New Brooks saddles even harder - Vans saddle Read more: http://www.roadcyclinguk.com/gear-news/new-brooks-saddles-even-harder/5484-4.html#ixzz0zoNx5cjM Swiss select Organic cowhide for your Brooks, perfect, almost as funny as the Presoftened saddles, British humour. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My new Rodeo
Regarding compact doubles, I've always run compact doubles on triple cranks, so that if I decide later that this particular bike needs the granny, I can do it. I've gone so far as to have a bagged up kit of parts for the swap (ft der, ring and bolts, bb). I admit I like the look of a compact double, and I like the idea of lighter weight even if I can't feel it. Also, I like a double when I can confidently say I'd never use a third ring in a particular application, just like those of you who are committed to a triple would call a fourth chainring unnecessary. On my Renovelo/Bleriot I'm going to use a 30/44 in front and an 11-28 9 speed in back. If I decide that's not cutting it for me on the low end, I have the parts to go all the way to a 29/46 in front and a 12-36 in back. With that setup, I'd have a low gear of about 21.6 inches and a high of about 103. Very few people need a higher high or a lower low than that for any application. Spread out over 18 gears, with only 4 cross-chain gears that I'd want to avoid, that's 14 usable gears. I can live with those steps. I'd argue that there is very little to be gained in any triple setup over that. The marginal benefits would be limited to: better front shifting over my big 17tooth jump, a lower low possible, more gears in the same range with a 3x8 or a 3x9. On Sep 15, 11:05 pm, Fai Mao i.am.fai@gmail.com wrote: Especially when I am carrying something home my bike and luggage can easily hit the 40 pound mark. A 30 something gear is a gear that I walk the bike up 1:10 hill. I need a gear at least in the mid 20's to grind up a hill that steep however, it is a quandry because I can at that point push the bike up the hill faster than I can ride it up the hill. On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 1:39 PM, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm with you...I must be a weakling too. I can't go up the foothills of Mt Rainier without a small inner ring, especially after I am all tired out. The only compact double I would consider would be perhaps a 46x30 or a 44/42x28 coupled with a 12-32,34 or 36 cog set. I own a classic steel race bike from the 80's with a 42x52 and a 13-23 six speed. At 21 pounds I cannot ride it on anything but gentle rollers and relatively flat ground. It makes no difference to me that the shifting is simple and crisp and I don't think it makes me any faster than my normal all rounder style bike. Unless one is very lean and very in shape, I honestly don't think there is much of a reason to ride with a double and certainly not on a bike that will take you to unknown areas due to its versatility and fender-ability. Three cheers to those that can make compact doubles work..years of sit down bench work and too many calories have done wonders to limit my climbing abilities. I need a wide range triple and I am not afraid to admit it !!! : ) On Sep 12, 9:43 am, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: Anne, a 34/36-48/50 double with a 12-27 cassette yields a low gear in the mid-30s inches and lets you keep the crispsimple-shifting short cage derailers. I have found even as a middle-age office worker that mid-30 gears will get me comfortably up anything (paved) here in Western Colorado. I guess I'm just a weakling here. Mid-30 gears don't do it for me when the grade gets above around 10-12%. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Fai Mao The Blogger who sometimes responds to comments -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Continental GrandPrix 4 season 700x28
My issue is it a rather expensive experiment to try. I'd hate to ride them for a few weeks and have to toss them. ~Mike~ On Sep 17, 9:58 am, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote: I've been riding the Parigi-Roubaix since they were reintroduced a couple years back. They're awesome. I'd hardly describe them as delicate. I've had a few flats, to be sure, but no more than you'd expect from any other performance-oriented tire with supple casings and thin tread. I've even ridden them off-road on fire trails -- certainly not the best application for them, but they (and I) survived intact. If I may be so bold as to say: I think you're blowin' it by not giving them a try. Aaron On Sep 17, 8:43 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: After reading all the hype about the Challenge Paris-Roubaix tires I decided to order a pair for my new custom Randonnering bike. I had read about the low rolling resistance and supple ride which all sounded great. I've read about the fact that they were not very sturdy when it came to road debris and stuff, but it couldn't be that bad. I don't ride in the inner city so I figured that I would not have too many flats to be worried. When I got the package and felt the thread thicknesses it was so thin and delicate that I've decided to return them. Now I need to find a 28-30mm tire that is reasonably fast and durable. The Paselas seem ok, I have 35's on our tandem and 32's on my urban bike . I was looking for something a little better. The Roly Polys seem like an option. And perhaps the Grand Bois, but I hear they are flat prone too. The Continental GP 4000 4 seasons seem like a good compromise. Does anyone have experience with these?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: B17 vs Team Pro... any direct comparison wisdom?
On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 11:14 -0700, Scott G. wrote: For those who think Brooks has been going soft.. (I love the headline) New Brooks saddles even harder - Vans saddle Read more: http://www.roadcyclinguk.com/gear-news/new-brooks-saddles-even-harder/5484-4.html#ixzz0zoNx5cjM Swiss select Organic cowhide for your Brooks, perfect, almost as funny as the Presoftened saddles, British humour. I don't understand. Where's the humor? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: B17 vs Team Pro... any direct comparison wisdom?
On Sep 17, 2010, at 1:43 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 11:14 -0700, Scott G. wrote: For those who think Brooks has been going soft.. (I love the headline) New Brooks saddles even harder - Vans saddle Read more: http://www.roadcyclinguk.com/gear-news/new-brooks- saddles-even-harder/5484-4.html#ixzz0zoNx5cjM Swiss select Organic cowhide for your Brooks, perfect, almost as funny as the Presoftened saddles, British humour. I don't understand. Where's the humor? The presoftened Brooks Pros were still as hard as a plank. They just had some Proofide applied at the factory and a stamped Presoftened logo on the top of the saddle. Otherwise they didn't seem any different. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] OMG i'm on the rivendell website
I just visited Rivendell headquarters last week for the first time and it was great.I was lucky enough to talk to Keven, Dave, Rich, and Grant in person.They gave me a delicious espresso and even lunch. I had just completed a ~6,000 mile zig-zag trip across North America (New England, northern Ontario, Alberta, BC, and the Northwest coast) from Boston, and am currently visiting a few friends who live in and around the SF bay area. Anyway at Rivendell I was going on and on about how amazed/impressed I was that I never broke a spoke on my Rich les...@rivendell built wheels, nor even had to true them, and about how none of the components I had purchased from Rivendell, from cranks to chainrings to shifters/derailleurs had broken or even worn out.The Nitto Noodle bars have taken several front/side impacts along the way and have not even so much as bent. I finally replaced my rear tire at over 5000 miles coming down the Oregon coast, with another Schwalbe tire I bought in Kalispell, Montana at Wheaton's bike shop (just because they had them... plus I thought I might need one eventually, and it shocked me that they carried Schwalbe's) but I think the original tire could have gone longer, it's just that I was starting to get mysterious flats and could see the mesh/cords in some spots where rocks had punched through.The Brooks saddle occasionally got soaked in overnight rainstorms when I forgot to cover it, and ridden for 10 hours immediately afterward- no problems that I can see. Wool underwear/t-shirt and nylon pants/MUSA shorts made me actually look forward to riding in the rain (free shower). Also the Nitto mini-rack and Wald basket bungee-net system could not have worked better as far as I'm concerned. Yesterday I noticed this post on Rivendell's website, and am surprised to see that Grant posted some photos, and amazed at Grant's memory of our conversation from last Friday when I was there. http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/361/original_matthewtour.pdf Grant is right- the Bombadil would have handled this journey much better. the Waterford frame was overloaded and at speeds between 14mph and 25mph would wiggle/noodle quite a bit depending on how I had distributed the load (along the way I tried several things and refined the load balance as much as I could).But in terms of components, I sometimes worried about them but apparently never had to.Other folks I've met along the way (who were on bicycle trips) had lots of stories about broken spokes and various mechanical issues, but I mostly had stories about the magnificent wildlife we have here in North America, or sometimes abusive offroad terrain matched with spectacular landscapes, etc. I did lose a brake pad once but I think it just worked itself loose, and I did crash into a swamp at dusk on the north shore of Lake Superior (bent fork) but that's pretty much it, off the top of my head. Anyway it was cool to meet the folks at Rivendell.I even camped out up on Mt. Diablo the night before and got to see at least 5 migrating tarantulas on north gate road, and they left quite an impression... we sure don't have spiders like that back east. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: OMG i'm on the rivendell website
That's really really excellent. Wicked pissah! as I'm told they say in n'england. On Sep 17, 12:13 pm, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: I just visited Rivendell headquarters last week for the first time and it was great. I was lucky enough to talk to Keven, Dave, Rich, and Grant in person. They gave me a delicious espresso and even lunch. I had just completed a ~6,000 mile zig-zag trip across North America (New England, northern Ontario, Alberta, BC, and the Northwest coast) from Boston, and am currently visiting a few friends who live in and around the SF bay area. Anyway at Rivendell I was going on and on about how amazed/impressed I was that I never broke a spoke on my Rich les...@rivendell built wheels, nor even had to true them, and about how none of the components I had purchased from Rivendell, from cranks to chainrings to shifters/derailleurs had broken or even worn out. The Nitto Noodle bars have taken several front/side impacts along the way and have not even so much as bent. I finally replaced my rear tire at over 5000 miles coming down the Oregon coast, with another Schwalbe tire I bought in Kalispell, Montana at Wheaton's bike shop (just because they had them... plus I thought I might need one eventually, and it shocked me that they carried Schwalbe's) but I think the original tire could have gone longer, it's just that I was starting to get mysterious flats and could see the mesh/cords in some spots where rocks had punched through. The Brooks saddle occasionally got soaked in overnight rainstorms when I forgot to cover it, and ridden for 10 hours immediately afterward- no problems that I can see. Wool underwear/t-shirt and nylon pants/MUSA shorts made me actually look forward to riding in the rain (free shower). Also the Nitto mini-rack and Wald basket bungee-net system could not have worked better as far as I'm concerned. Yesterday I noticed this post on Rivendell's website, and am surprised to see that Grant posted some photos, and amazed at Grant's memory of our conversation from last Friday when I was there. http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/361/original_matthewtour.pdf Grant is right- the Bombadil would have handled this journey much better. the Waterford frame was overloaded and at speeds between 14mph and 25mph would wiggle/noodle quite a bit depending on how I had distributed the load (along the way I tried several things and refined the load balance as much as I could). But in terms of components, I sometimes worried about them but apparently never had to. Other folks I've met along the way (who were on bicycle trips) had lots of stories about broken spokes and various mechanical issues, but I mostly had stories about the magnificent wildlife we have here in North America, or sometimes abusive offroad terrain matched with spectacular landscapes, etc. I did lose a brake pad once but I think it just worked itself loose, and I did crash into a swamp at dusk on the north shore of Lake Superior (bent fork) but that's pretty much it, off the top of my head. Anyway it was cool to meet the folks at Rivendell. I even camped out up on Mt. Diablo the night before and got to see at least 5 migrating tarantulas on north gate road, and they left quite an impression... we sure don't have spiders like that back east. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] OMG i'm on the rivendell website
Simply amazing. Hats off to you and Rivendell. René Sent from my iPhone 4 On Sep 17, 2010, at 12:13 PM, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: I just visited Rivendell headquarters last week for the first time and it was great.I was lucky enough to talk to Keven, Dave, Rich, and Grant in person.They gave me a delicious espresso and even lunch. I had just completed a ~6,000 mile zig-zag trip across North America (New England, northern Ontario, Alberta, BC, and the Northwest coast) from Boston, and am currently visiting a few friends who live in and around the SF bay area. Anyway at Rivendell I was going on and on about how amazed/impressed I was that I never broke a spoke on my Rich les...@rivendell built wheels, nor even had to true them, and about how none of the components I had purchased from Rivendell, from cranks to chainrings to shifters/derailleurs had broken or even worn out.The Nitto Noodle bars have taken several front/side impacts along the way and have not even so much as bent. I finally replaced my rear tire at over 5000 miles coming down the Oregon coast, with another Schwalbe tire I bought in Kalispell, Montana at Wheaton's bike shop (just because they had them... plus I thought I might need one eventually, and it shocked me that they carried Schwalbe's) but I think the original tire could have gone longer, it's just that I was starting to get mysterious flats and could see the mesh/cords in some spots where rocks had punched through.The Brooks saddle occasionally got soaked in overnight rainstorms when I forgot to cover it, and ridden for 10 hours immediately afterward- no problems that I can see. Wool underwear/t-shirt and nylon pants/MUSA shorts made me actually look forward to riding in the rain (free shower). Also the Nitto mini-rack and Wald basket bungee-net system could not have worked better as far as I'm concerned. Yesterday I noticed this post on Rivendell's website, and am surprised to see that Grant posted some photos, and amazed at Grant's memory of our conversation from last Friday when I was there. http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/361/original_matthewtour.pdf Grant is right- the Bombadil would have handled this journey much better. the Waterford frame was overloaded and at speeds between 14mph and 25mph would wiggle/noodle quite a bit depending on how I had distributed the load (along the way I tried several things and refined the load balance as much as I could).But in terms of components, I sometimes worried about them but apparently never had to.Other folks I've met along the way (who were on bicycle trips) had lots of stories about broken spokes and various mechanical issues, but I mostly had stories about the magnificent wildlife we have here in North America, or sometimes abusive offroad terrain matched with spectacular landscapes, etc. I did lose a brake pad once but I think it just worked itself loose, and I did crash into a swamp at dusk on the north shore of Lake Superior (bent fork) but that's pretty much it, off the top of my head. Anyway it was cool to meet the folks at Rivendell.I even camped out up on Mt. Diablo the night before and got to see at least 5 migrating tarantulas on north gate road, and they left quite an impression... we sure don't have spiders like that back east. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: OMG i'm on the rivendell website
Hey Matt, that's really cool. I'm glad your tour went well. I hope you'll share some pictures with us at some point. I think your experience is a testament to the quality of the products Rivendell produces and promotes. I've been really satisfied with the quality and performance of what I've purchased from Rivendell. I've been to RBWHQ once before and only met Grant who was really nice and very engaging. I'm going to visit there later this month and really excited about that. There's some items that I'd probabaly never purchase but will be excited to check out in person. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 3 days in Gifford Pinchot National Forest.
Great shots Mike! Thanks for sharing the adventure. My GF and I will definitely be borrowing from your route when we make it over to the NW for some bike rambling one of these days. -Jay Denver -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Shimano TR01 Road Shoes; Easton 10 cm + 25* (?) stem, Wellgo track pedals
Prices include shipping in CONUS. 1. Shimano TR01 carbon fiber bottomed road shoe, 45 (fits snug for a 45 -- I generally wear 10s and find these tight with anything except the thinnest socks). NOTE!!! The straps have had about 1, including the pull tabs, amputated -- said ends would catch on my straight up 'n' down Cyclotourist crankarms. $35 shipped. 2. Easton 10 cm quill-less (aheadset type) stem, as new (fewer than 100 miles), $25 shipped. 3. Wellgo track pedals, 200 miles, $25 shipped. Photos: http://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/ForSale# -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Quickbeam for the Big Dog on ebay
Nice! http://cgi.ebay.com/66cm-rivendell-quickbeam-w-Phil-Wood-MINT-/220670955296?pt=Road_Bikeshash=item3361038f20 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers
After I was asked what was in the case and charged accordingly...DOH... (pre baggage fees) I did curb side baggage check with a $10 bill/tip clearly visible in my handno fees! I guess you could call that a win-win. Angus On Sep 17, 1:02 pm, NickBull nick.bike.b...@gmail.com wrote: I just recently flew from DC to Seattle and back on Delta Airlines with my SS coupled bike packed in an SS soft case. No charge beyond the piece of luggage charge of $23. In five round-trip flights with the SS case, no one has ever asked me what was in the case. It's just an airline-legal-size piece of baggage, so why would they ask? They don't ask what any of my other luggage is, either. TSA has looked at the contents several times, judging by straps that are undone on arrival. Economics of SS couplers: Delta currently charges $200 for bikes, so a round-trip costs $400. Three trips pays for your couplers + case. Airtran charges $80 each way. I wouldn't get a soft case again, I think that a hard case does a better job of protecting the bike. I don't think the bike has ever experienced actual damage en route, but it just seems like the hard case would do a better job. It takes about 30 to 45 minutes to either unpack or pack the bike. I have a set of photos to remind me of what packing order works. Nick On Sep 16, 9:42 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 18:11 -0700, Lynne Fitz wrote: I expect I could try to rationalize the cost - I had the conversion done before the SS price increase. I figured couplers, case, and packing accessories added $1000 to the cost. 10 flights with a non- coupled bike would have been that much in extra luggage charges. However, now you still pay the extra charge because it's a bicycle no matter how small it packs down, right? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Continental GrandPrix 4 season 700x28
Mike, I understand your hesitation, but 98% of club riders ride a tire like the one you mentioned. If you're comfortable fixing flats, then it's no problem. Maybe the bigger issue is air volume and the added comfort that it provides. I love the my Jack Brown (greens) for the amount of bounce that they provide. The Rolly Polly tires are nice too. Recently I picked up a pair of the Paris-Robaix tires and am looking forward to those. If your max is 30mm, maybe you should try the Grand Bois tires. Good luck! Seth Ely On Sep 17, 11:36 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: My issue is it a rather expensive experiment to try. I'd hate to ride them for a few weeks and have to toss them. ~Mike~ On Sep 17, 9:58 am, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote: I've been riding the Parigi-Roubaix since they were reintroduced a couple years back. They're awesome. I'd hardly describe them as delicate. I've had a few flats, to be sure, but no more than you'd expect from any other performance-oriented tire with supple casings and thin tread. I've even ridden them off-road on fire trails -- certainly not the best application for them, but they (and I) survived intact. If I may be so bold as to say: I think you're blowin' it by not giving them a try. Aaron On Sep 17, 8:43 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: After reading all the hype about the Challenge Paris-Roubaix tires I decided to order a pair for my new custom Randonnering bike. I had read about the low rolling resistance and supple ride which all sounded great. I've read about the fact that they were not very sturdy when it came to road debris and stuff, but it couldn't be that bad. I don't ride in the inner city so I figured that I would not have too many flats to be worried. When I got the package and felt the thread thicknesses it was so thin and delicate that I've decided to return them. Now I need to find a 28-30mm tire that is reasonably fast and durable. The Paselas seem ok, I have 35's on our tandem and 32's on my urban bike . I was looking for something a little better. The Roly Polys seem like an option. And perhaps the Grand Bois, but I hear they are flat prone too. The Continental GP 4000 4 seasons seem like a good compromise. Does anyone have experience with these?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tent suggestions
Thanks so much for all your tent recommendations! Now I have a lot of good options to research. :) -nathan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Continental GrandPrix 4 season 700x28
It may be a moot point if you've returned them already, but if they don't work out, you could probably re-sell them here at near retail pretty easily. On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote: My issue is it a rather expensive experiment to try. I'd hate to ride them for a few weeks and have to toss them. ~Mike~ On Sep 17, 9:58 am, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote: I've been riding the Parigi-Roubaix since they were reintroduced a couple years back. They're awesome. I'd hardly describe them as delicate. I've had a few flats, to be sure, but no more than you'd expect from any other performance-oriented tire with supple casings and thin tread. I've even ridden them off-road on fire trails -- certainly not the best application for them, but they (and I) survived intact. If I may be so bold as to say: I think you're blowin' it by not giving them a try. Aaron On Sep 17, 8:43 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: After reading all the hype about the Challenge Paris-Roubaix tires I decided to order a pair for my new custom Randonnering bike. I had read about the low rolling resistance and supple ride which all sounded great. I've read about the fact that they were not very sturdy when it came to road debris and stuff, but it couldn't be that bad. I don't ride in the inner city so I figured that I would not have too many flats to be worried. When I got the package and felt the thread thicknesses it was so thin and delicate that I've decided to return them. Now I need to find a 28-30mm tire that is reasonably fast and durable. The Paselas seem ok, I have 35's on our tandem and 32's on my urban bike . I was looking for something a little better. The Roly Polys seem like an option. And perhaps the Grand Bois, but I hear they are flat prone too. The Continental GP 4000 4 seasons seem like a good compromise. Does anyone have experience with these?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Continental GrandPrix 4 season 700x28
I still have them. Still undecided. BTW, Seth I have Jack Browns on my Ramboillet and they are great for all around riding. My new bike has braze-on Paul Racers and fits the JB's with fenders( by design). I ride with some friends from work sometimes and they are all on 23mm tired Carbon Fiber Specialized I've found the Jack Browns roll slower ( sorry Jan) than the skinnier tires. When I rode with them in the past on 25mm Conti's I was near the front on the climbs. On Jack Browns I struggle to hang on long steep climbs. I need something that rolls faster yet still with some suppleness. I built a lighter wheelset and now I need a fast rolling 28-30mm tire to go with it for those faster rides. ~Mike~ On Sep 17, 9:04 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: It may be a moot point if you've returned them already, but if they don't work out, you could probably re-sell them here at near retail pretty easily. On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote: My issue is it a rather expensive experiment to try. I'd hate to ride them for a few weeks and have to toss them. ~Mike~ On Sep 17, 9:58 am, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote: I've been riding the Parigi-Roubaix since they were reintroduced a couple years back. They're awesome. I'd hardly describe them as delicate. I've had a few flats, to be sure, but no more than you'd expect from any other performance-oriented tire with supple casings and thin tread. I've even ridden them off-road on fire trails -- certainly not the best application for them, but they (and I) survived intact. If I may be so bold as to say: I think you're blowin' it by not giving them a try. Aaron On Sep 17, 8:43 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: After reading all the hype about the Challenge Paris-Roubaix tires I decided to order a pair for my new custom Randonnering bike. I had read about the low rolling resistance and supple ride which all sounded great. I've read about the fact that they were not very sturdy when it came to road debris and stuff, but it couldn't be that bad. I don't ride in the inner city so I figured that I would not have too many flats to be worried. When I got the package and felt the thread thicknesses it was so thin and delicate that I've decided to return them. Now I need to find a 28-30mm tire that is reasonably fast and durable. The Paselas seem ok, I have 35's on our tandem and 32's on my urban bike . I was looking for something a little better. The Roly Polys seem like an option. And perhaps the Grand Bois, but I hear they are flat prone too. The Continental GP 4000 4 seasons seem like a good compromise. Does anyone have experience with these?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: OMG i'm on the rivendell website
Thanks guys. I was lucky to be able to do this trip and i really am glad I could do it. BTW the wheels are the Shimano/Velocity combo that r...@rivnendell builds. My chainring/cog teeth are somewhat hooked but they still have life left in them. As far as photos, I just managed to upload a couple on flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/43029...@n07/sets/72157624854639259/ One is of some antelope in Wyoming, and the other is from Jasper park in Alberta.It's kind of daunting how many photos I have, some of them pretty random and I'll need to sort through them all when I get home. PS, Mike you are from Portland, right?I have to say, I was awestruck by that town's bicycle infrastructure. Bike lanes in the middle of the road- not near the car door zone, but in the middle of the road. And it seemed like there was designated bicycle parking every other city block downtown. Signs along the bike routes telling you exactly how far you are from the next point of interest!People out walking, children playing in the fountains...And the amount of people riding bicycles- not 'cyclists', but people riding bicycles. I could not believe that a town such as that could exist in the US anyway. Powell's books was bustling. Also beguiling was the number of bookstores present in even the smallest of towns in Oregon. People really like to read there, huh? It's unamerican. seriously.I also met a couple of really cool guys named Aaron and Phil from Portland who happened to be riding down to Lincoln City for the weekend when I left, and we rode down there together.I could not have asked for better company on the way to the coast, and they were very gracious in waiting for me on the hills. On Sep 17, 1:40 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Matt, that's really cool. I'm glad your tour went well. I hope you'll share some pictures with us at some point. I think your experience is a testament to the quality of the products Rivendell produces and promotes. I've been really satisfied with the quality and performance of what I've purchased from Rivendell. I've been to RBWHQ once before and only met Grant who was really nice and very engaging. I'm going to visit there later this month and really excited about that. There's some items that I'd probabaly never purchase but will be excited to check out in person. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers
No Steve, I don't pay an extra charge. TSA asked what was in that case and I said... parts. The airline folks didn't even ask. Two different airlines. On Sep 16, 6:42 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 18:11 -0700, Lynne Fitz wrote: I expect I could try to rationalize the cost - I had the conversion done before the SS price increase. I figured couplers, case, and packing accessories added $1000 to the cost. 10 flights with a non- coupled bike would have been that much in extra luggage charges. However, now you still pay the extra charge because it's a bicycle no matter how small it packs down, right? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] and 99 cents
I think everything on the RBW site is in whole dollars except one item which is $5.10. Know why? (I found out when I bought one last weekend) Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers
All my destination reassembly has been inside, usually in the hotel room. I've assembled it in Prague, St George UT, Histon (UK), Budapest, our summer place... I have a sheet of plastic that I put underneath. No mess. No misplaced bits. Disassembly got a lot faster once I got a wireless computer :-) A LOT faster. I have a bin at home for the parts that come off that are staying home. The travel parts live in the SS travel case when they aren't being used. I also have travel fenders - Planet Bike Speedez. The Honjos stay home, as do the racks, and the generator hub front wheel.. My Carradice Barley is plenty roomy enough for the riding I do on vacations. So far :-) I can reassemble it in about 45 minutes, and disassemble it to return home in about the same amount of time. However, the combination of Honjo fenders and front rack and Silver brakes makes home (dis)assembly a bit more complex, requiring about 5 hands. :-) I can take fewer tools to the summer place - I keep some basic ones there, as well as chain lube. On Sep 17, 9:10 am, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: on my last two week trip with coupled Rambouillet, I did the reassemble on the lawn in front of my hotel. That took about 45 minutes and I had stuff strewn all over the lawn. Lot's of parts, pads, tools, etc. This was a typical assembly location. When the trip was over, I was offered the use of a conference room inside the hotel as the location to do the disassemble and packing. Indoors with no distractions and a banquet table is my preferred venue. All was smooth, quiet and having a place to put tools and lean the bike can make a subtle difference. On Sep 17, 8:35 am, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: I have a Surly Traveler's Check which is the Cross Check with SS couplers. It has been absolutely one of my best purchases ever. No problem with the airlines. No big bulky bike box with the threat of enormous fees and/or outright rejection hanging over the trip. No danger of severe damage or loss of pieces coming out of the box. The peace of mind in traveling, for me, is priceless. That's why the cost effective argument doesn't make sense. One may be willing to live with the downsides of airline travel with the bike in a card board box rather than pay the admittedly high cost of couplers and case. That's a matter of personal preference. But what one cannot do is obtain the advantages of a coupled bike for less money than the cost of couplers and a hard case. There is also the assembly/disassembly problem. It takes me approximately one hour to unpack and get the bike ready to ride and a little more time to disassemble and pack the bike. For me, if I'm going for a multi-week trip, the time spent on assembly/ disasembly is insignificant. If the trip is for a couple of days, I'll take the Brompton. Again, it's a matter of what one is willing to put up with. If the assembly/disassembly time is so unpleasant and frustrating that it threatens to spoil one's vacation, then the couplers are not worth the cost whatever that is. GeorgeS On Sep 16, 8:11 pm, Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net wrote: I sent my Bleriot frame off to Bilenky for SS couplers before I built it up. Bleriot was also, until recently, my randonneuring bike. Seems to work just fine :-) No problems. It has also been packed and taken on airplanes many times (Europe twice. Mostly to the family summer place). No problems ever. No extra charge because it was a bicycle, ever. At most, the piece of luggage charge. I expect I could try to rationalize the cost - I had the conversion done before the SS price increase. I figured couplers, case, and packing accessories added $1000 to the cost. 10 flights with a non- coupled bike would have been that much in extra luggage charges. Or renting a bike at my destination. Having MY go-to bicycle at my destination that fits ME... priceless. http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/sets/72157594509789929/with/32... As it is, my new custom rando bike also has SS couplers, but I didn't have to buy the case and packing accessories, because I've already got them. One of my bikes will be going to Ireland next summer; haven't decided which one. Lynne F On Sep 15, 7:32 pm, Kip Otteson kip.otte...@gmail.com wrote: I noticed yesterday that my kickstand was sitting at a very awkward angle. I moved it a little and I could see that my kickstand plate was ripping off of my frame. I have a Pletscher double kickstand on the Bombadil and I think that when it was parked at school someone sat on it and bent it all up. Bummer deal. I took off the kickstand and now am really old-new school with a bike I have to lean up against things, like in the old days. I was worried that the chainstays would be hammered as well but they look fine. I'll have to wait till I'm
[RBW] Re: Continental GrandPrix 4 season 700x28
I love the Continental GP 4 Season tire. I think mine were 3000s, and they lasted a good long time. On Sep 17, 8:43 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: After reading all the hype about the Challenge Paris-Roubaix tires I decided to order a pair for my new custom Randonnering bike. I had read about the low rolling resistance and supple ride which all sounded great. I've read about the fact that they were not very sturdy when it came to road debris and stuff, but it couldn't be that bad. I don't ride in the inner city so I figured that I would not have too many flats to be worried. When I got the package and felt the thread thicknesses it was so thin and delicate that I've decided to return them. Now I need to find a 28-30mm tire that is reasonably fast and durable. The Paselas seem ok, I have 35's on our tandem and 32's on my urban bike . I was looking for something a little better. The Roly Polys seem like an option. And perhaps the Grand Bois, but I hear they are flat prone too. The Continental GP 4000 4 seasons seem like a good compromise. Does anyone have experience with these? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers
I have seen your Bleriot and it is a beauty. Did you get SS couplers on the sweetpea? On Sep 17, 10:26 pm, Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net wrote: All my destination reassembly has been inside, usually in the hotel room. I've assembled it in Prague, St George UT, Histon (UK), Budapest, our summer place... I have a sheet of plastic that I put underneath. No mess. No misplaced bits. Disassembly got a lot faster once I got a wireless computer :-) A LOT faster. I have a bin at home for the parts that come off that are staying home. The travel parts live in the SS travel case when they aren't being used. I also have travel fenders - Planet Bike Speedez. The Honjos stay home, as do the racks, and the generator hub front wheel.. My Carradice Barley is plenty roomy enough for the riding I do on vacations. So far :-) I can reassemble it in about 45 minutes, and disassemble it to return home in about the same amount of time. However, the combination of Honjo fenders and front rack and Silver brakes makes home (dis)assembly a bit more complex, requiring about 5 hands. :-) I can take fewer tools to the summer place - I keep some basic ones there, as well as chain lube. On Sep 17, 9:10 am, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: on my last two week trip with coupled Rambouillet, I did the reassemble on the lawn in front of my hotel. That took about 45 minutes and I had stuff strewn all over the lawn. Lot's of parts, pads, tools, etc. This was a typical assembly location. When the trip was over, I was offered the use of a conference room inside the hotel as the location to do the disassemble and packing. Indoors with no distractions and a banquet table is my preferred venue. All was smooth, quiet and having a place to put tools and lean the bike can make a subtle difference. On Sep 17, 8:35 am, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: I have a Surly Traveler's Check which is the Cross Check with SS couplers. It has been absolutely one of my best purchases ever. No problem with the airlines. No big bulky bike box with the threat of enormous fees and/or outright rejection hanging over the trip. No danger of severe damage or loss of pieces coming out of the box. The peace of mind in traveling, for me, is priceless. That's why the cost effective argument doesn't make sense. One may be willing to live with the downsides of airline travel with the bike in a card board box rather than pay the admittedly high cost of couplers and case. That's a matter of personal preference. But what one cannot do is obtain the advantages of a coupled bike for less money than the cost of couplers and a hard case. There is also the assembly/disassembly problem. It takes me approximately one hour to unpack and get the bike ready to ride and a little more time to disassemble and pack the bike. For me, if I'm going for a multi-week trip, the time spent on assembly/ disasembly is insignificant. If the trip is for a couple of days, I'll take the Brompton. Again, it's a matter of what one is willing to put up with. If the assembly/disassembly time is so unpleasant and frustrating that it threatens to spoil one's vacation, then the couplers are not worth the cost whatever that is. GeorgeS On Sep 16, 8:11 pm, Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net wrote: I sent my Bleriot frame off to Bilenky for SS couplers before I built it up. Bleriot was also, until recently, my randonneuring bike. Seems to work just fine :-) No problems. It has also been packed and taken on airplanes many times (Europe twice. Mostly to the family summer place). No problems ever. No extra charge because it was a bicycle, ever. At most, the piece of luggage charge. I expect I could try to rationalize the cost - I had the conversion done before the SS price increase. I figured couplers, case, and packing accessories added $1000 to the cost. 10 flights with a non- coupled bike would have been that much in extra luggage charges. Or renting a bike at my destination. Having MY go-to bicycle at my destination that fits ME... priceless. http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/sets/72157594509789929/with/32... As it is, my new custom rando bike also has SS couplers, but I didn't have to buy the case and packing accessories, because I've already got them. One of my bikes will be going to Ireland next summer; haven't decided which one. Lynne F On Sep 15, 7:32 pm, Kip Otteson kip.otte...@gmail.com wrote: I noticed yesterday that my kickstand was sitting at a very awkward angle. I moved it a little and I could see that my kickstand plate was ripping off of my frame. I have a Pletscher double kickstand on the Bombadil and I think that when it was parked at school someone sat on it and bent it all up. Bummer deal. I took off the kickstand and
[RBW] Re: Continental GrandPrix 4 season 700x28
Mike, Have you considered the Schwalbe Marathon Racers in the 700cx30mm size? They're on my short list of next skinny tires to try. Ron On Sep 17, 9:34 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: I still have them. Still undecided. BTW, Seth I have Jack Browns on my Ramboillet and they are great for all around riding. My new bike has braze-on Paul Racers and fits the JB's with fenders( by design). I ride with some friends from work sometimes and they are all on 23mm tired Carbon Fiber Specialized I've found the Jack Browns roll slower ( sorry Jan) than the skinnier tires. When I rode with them in the past on 25mm Conti's I was near the front on the climbs. On Jack Browns I struggle to hang on long steep climbs. I need something that rolls faster yet still with some suppleness. I built a lighter wheelset and now I need a fast rolling 28-30mm tire to go with it for those faster rides. ~Mike~ On Sep 17, 9:04 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: It may be a moot point if you've returned them already, but if they don't work out, you could probably re-sell them here at near retail pretty easily. On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote: My issue is it a rather expensive experiment to try. I'd hate to ride them for a few weeks and have to toss them. ~Mike~ On Sep 17, 9:58 am, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote: I've been riding the Parigi-Roubaix since they were reintroduced a couple years back. They're awesome. I'd hardly describe them as delicate. I've had a few flats, to be sure, but no more than you'd expect from any other performance-oriented tire with supple casings and thin tread. I've even ridden them off-road on fire trails -- certainly not the best application for them, but they (and I) survived intact. If I may be so bold as to say: I think you're blowin' it by not giving them a try. Aaron On Sep 17, 8:43 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: After reading all the hype about the Challenge Paris-Roubaix tires I decided to order a pair for my new custom Randonnering bike. I had read about the low rolling resistance and supple ride which all sounded great. I've read about the fact that they were not very sturdy when it came to road debris and stuff, but it couldn't be that bad. I don't ride in the inner city so I figured that I would not have too many flats to be worried. When I got the package and felt the thread thicknesses it was so thin and delicate that I've decided to return them. Now I need to find a 28-30mm tire that is reasonably fast and durable. The Paselas seem ok, I have 35's on our tandem and 32's on my urban bike . I was looking for something a little better. The Roly Polys seem like an option. And perhaps the Grand Bois, but I hear they are flat prone too. The Continental GP 4000 4 seasons seem like a good compromise. Does anyone have experience with these?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib �...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
