[RBW] Re: Upgrading my Trek 520?

2012-01-05 Thread Bill Carter

On Jan 4, 10:52 pm, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm itching to ride right now, but agreed to drive since I was
 working late today!
I hear you, Rex.  Of course I meant the itch to ride for potential
buyers might fetch you a higher price, but only if you can control
your own itch and time it right!  Much easier said than done.
Bill

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[RBW] Re: Fenders/Tires for Rom

2012-01-05 Thread Michael Hechmer
I will second both of Etaban's posts.  The Ram/Rom was designed as a road 
bike.  They are great brevit bikes but the design point is definitely 28mm 
 fenders and that is where the bike will give you its best.  I'm sure I 
could run 30s under my Honjo fenders, but don't think 28 to 30 or to drive 
the choice.

michael

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[RBW] Re: Fender Frustration

2012-01-05 Thread Pondero
Thanks, Esteban.  I like your suggestion, and am leaning hard in that
direction.  If I didn't spend so much time on gravel roads, it would
be a slam dunk.  I love Hetres on gravel.

But I'm pretty sure I do not love gravel wedged within inadequate
fender clearance.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Upgrading my Trek 520?

2012-01-05 Thread Steve Hemmelgarn
I have a Trek 520 that I used as a commuter and loaded tourer for many 
years. When I bought it in 1989 I had the LBS switch out the 105 cranks for MB 
cranks as it too thought it didn't have sufficiently low gears for 
touring. Over the years I made lots of upgrades and made it as close to a 
Rivendell ride as possible. The original Bontrager rims developed cracks at the 
spoke holes so I built Dyad wheels with a SON hub for generator lights. Can't 
say enough positive things about having headlight and tailights available 
at all times!
 
 
 
Last summer I bought a Hunqapillar for these duties and modified the Trek to be 
a city bike, with flat bars and a single chainring.
 
The Hunq is a vast improvement over the Trek. It has that Rivendell ride 
where the Trek was solid but kind of dead. 
 
Still keeping the Trek as it has a lot of sentimental value and was there 
before I drank the Rivendell Kool-aid.
 
Steve 

From: Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com
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Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2012 7:47 PM
Subject: [RBW] Re: Upgrading my Trek 520?


BTW, just found a more recent picture of the Trek 520, which I uploaded here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rexkerr/6638127641/



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[RBW] Re: Fender Frustration

2012-01-05 Thread Minh
Rene,

I just walked over to my Mark's Rack (I have all 3 still) and i never
even thought of using those slots in the longboard.  do you have a
picture as it looks a lot higher to my eye then a nitto mini front but
maybe that is just an optical illusion.

On Jan 4, 11:00 pm, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm not sure what you are referring to. Both my Mark's Racks (on the AHH
 and the Betty) have 2 bolts on the flat section that holds the rack in the
 middle and goes into the brake hole in the fork crown. I use one of these
 to stabilize the front of the fender. Has anything changed recently?

 René







 On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Chris,

  I had this problem too, i had a Nitto Mini Front and when i switched
  to a Nitto Campee Front i lost that same boss up front.  I came up
  with my own DIY solution, i used an extra daruma bolt and a ziptie to
  secure it to the cross section of the rack, it doesn't look as clean
  but is rock solid.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Upgrading my Trek 520?

2012-01-05 Thread Rex Kerr
On Jan 5, 2012, at 6:12 AM, Steve Hemmelgarn trekcommu...@yahoo.com wrote:
 The original Bontrager rims developed cracks at the spoke holes so I built 
 Dyad wheels with a SON hub for generator lights.

Interesting. Same thing happened to mine, but Trek paid for the wheel under 
warranty, so I had the LBS that dealt with the claim put an Alex Adventurer rim 
on, which had a close enough diameter to just move over the spokes without even 
unlacing it, and the rest they put on my account as a store credit.   (in my 
second picture you can see that the rear wheel is black)

 Can't say enough positive things about having headlight and tailights 
 available at all times!

I did put a dynamo on my AHH, but went with a cheap 1W light because I wasn't 
sure if I'd like the hub. I'll probably upgrade the light, as it works well. 

 The Hunq is a vast improvement over the Trek. It has that Rivendell ride 
 where the Trek was solid but kind of dead.

Yes, exactly!!  I've always felt like it was dead. No spirit at all, just flat. 

 Still keeping the Trek as it has a lot of sentimental value and was there 
 before I drank the Rivendell Kool-aid.
  

Funny. For years the Trek was the bike to get on many forums.  I wanted one for 
years. I remember a trip to Seattle once, sitting in the car waiting for 
somebody, and watching all of the bikes go by in the rain and noticing that a 
not insignificant number if them were 520s. When I finally got it, I was a bit 
disappointed. 

Rex 

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[RBW] Re: SRAM Automatix versus Sturmey Archer S2 Duomatic on SimpleOne

2012-01-05 Thread Philip Williamson
I don't have either of these hubs, but I do have a Fichtel  Sachs
Automatic that I ran on the Quickbeam for a while. It has aspects of
each of these hubs, being an automatic-shifting 2-speed with a coaster
brake. It's really really fun. Two speeds are useful, especially
commuting, coming away from stoplights. I need to adjust my spring so
it shifts later, since I end up climbing in the high gear unless I
slow way down. The automatic shifting feels really cool, but the
coaster brake is not my favorite. Mostly it's annoying when you're at
a stop sign and want to adjust your pedals. It doesn't work like a
fixed gear OR a coasting bike.

I think you'd be really happy with either, but I would choose the S2
kickback hub. There's no coaster brake, and you get to choose when to
shift.

 Philip

Philip Williamson
www.biketinker.com


On Jan 4, 7:05 am, David Spranger daspran...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am thinking about building up my SimpleOne (thank you Riv Sale!) with one
 of these two hubs. Does anyone here have any experience (good or bad) with
 either of both of these hubs?

 Thank you,

 David
 Charlotte, NC

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam vs SimpleOne

2012-01-05 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
All this talk of buying an $800 single-speed frame for its versatility in 
being able to be converted to a multi-geared derailleur bike is humorous to 
me. Everything about such a conversion on that frame would be a suboptimal 
hack. I think it would make a pretty nice single-speed.

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[RBW] Re: Fenders/Tires for Rom

2012-01-05 Thread Bruce Curry
I have a Ram with 33mm Jack Browns and 45mm VO stainless fenders.  A
bit of a pain on the install (a couple hours on install, some dremel
work and tweaking) but fits well.  I did get the Silver brakes for
additional muscle (rather than room) and this probably makes a
difference.

My $.02 is you can get 32/33 tires under you w/Ram/Rom as long as you
go long reach brakes, are patient and have faith that it will all
work.

Lastly the VO fenders are a great look w/Riv but their stays (at least
w/the single eyelet bolts) rattle like hell out of the box.  I ended
up wrapping the eyelet bolts with the same hemp twine Riv sells for
the handlebar wrap.  This also keeps the fender stable by keeping it
from shifting/twisting as you go over bumps.  Much better results
after this last touch.

Bruce

On Jan 5, 4:38 am, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote:
 I will second both of Etaban's posts.  The Ram/Rom was designed as a road
 bike.  They are great brevit bikes but the design point is definitely 28mm
  fenders and that is where the bike will give you its best.  I'm sure I
 could run 30s under my Honjo fenders, but don't think 28 to 30 or to drive
 the choice.

 michael

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[RBW] Re: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding?

2012-01-05 Thread Bruce Curry
In the spirit of peace love and understanding...

Retaliation is not a sustainable strategy.  Riding in the center of
the road merely serves to irritate your fellow travelers and
reinforces negative stereotypes and behavior directed towards you as
well as all other bikes on the road.  The only sensible choice is hold
yourself to your own high standard of behavior and hope that others
choose to do the same.  You can no more make driving choices for them
than they can riding choices for you.

Bruce

On Jan 4, 7:07 pm, Bill Carter billcar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Jim,
 I believe we all have had similar experiences.  A recent law was
 passed here in Georgia that requires motorists to give cyclists at
 least three feet clearance, but it remains to be seen whether the
 police will actually enforce it, and publicity to educate the motoring
 public about the new law has been sorely lacking.  I was once buzzed
 on an uphill by a huge black SUV, and I moved over toward the center
 of the lane thinking that might dissuade the next idiot from trying
 the same stunt.  Well, a sheriff's car pulled me over to lecture me
 for not riding far enough to the right.  I was tempted to ask him how
 many cars he had pulled over in his career for buzzing cyclists too
 close, but I figured arguing with the long arm of the law might not be
 a good idea.  Thanks for the reminder to be careful out there, and
 to be respectful of others on the forum because life's just too
 short.
 Bill Carter

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Re: [RBW] Re: Upgrading my Trek 520?

2012-01-05 Thread islaysteve
Well, these last few posts are interesting in that I'm keeping a watch out 
for a touring bike (or f/f) for my daughter.  Of course the 520 has been 
high on the list, but maybe overpriced in the used market.  A Riv is out of 
the question for economic reasons, so are there other older tourers that 
you folks would suggest?  We're not in a position to buy immediately, and I 
will probably repost a similar question down the line.  But I  thought I'd 
bring it up since it seems relevant here.  Steve

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[RBW] Re: Upgrading my Trek 520?

2012-01-05 Thread Jeremy Till
Rex, I have basically the same Trek, same size--mine is slightly older, a 
2002 model.  It has been a great bike for me--it got me into cycling 
seriously back in high school, got me coast-to-coast when I was 17, and 
has basically been whatever bike I needed it to be since then without much 
of a complaint.  However, its fit--esp. since I discovered Riv--has been 
somewhat questionable.  I've never really been sure what was up, but it is 
definitely the smallest 62cm frame I have ever seen; namely, it's head 
tube is super short for that size.  I think part of it is overly generous 
measurement on the part of trek (center to way top of seat tube, maybe?), 
and also that, at least in my model year, it was one of the first years 
that they spec'ed a threadless headset, and I think the product designers 
hadn't quite wrapped their head around how switching to threadless removes 
a few cm's of stack height from the front end.  The headtube still ends 
exactly at the top tube junction, as was common on frames for threaded 
headsets.  I think there's an interview with Richard Sachs by Grant in an 
old Reader where they discuss this issue, with Sachs explaining that this 
is why he designed lugs for extended head tubes when he started using 
threadless headsets.  For sure, if you look at bikes designed after the 
dominance of threadless, they tend to have a few more mm of headtube above 
the top tube junction.  

Anyways, that's my theory about the wonky fit of the TIG-welded 520's.  
I'll probably never sell mine because of its sentimental value--i'll hang 
the frame on the wall if i'm not using it.   Recently, I've been thinking 
about putting upright bars--like an albatross--on it to deal with the fit 
issues without using some kind of crazy stem.  Or maybe I'll put on the 
Nitto Trekking bar I picked up at the garage sale a little while 
back...although my fiance looks at me like I'm crazy when I say that.  


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Re: [RBW] Fender Frustration

2012-01-05 Thread René Sterental
Sure. I'll send you a photo later tonight when I'm home, but you will need
some metal spacers or cork to fill the gap, as well as a screw that is long
enough. I use the most forward of both.

René

On Thursday, January 5, 2012, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rene,

 I just walked over to my Mark's Rack (I have all 3 still) and i never
 even thought of using those slots in the longboard.  do you have a
 picture as it looks a lot higher to my eye then a nitto mini front but
 maybe that is just an optical illusion.


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[RBW] Re: Trail Recommendation Database?

2012-01-05 Thread TSW
We were thinking of doing that- but Seaview is wicked steep at the
very beginning- probably'd have to walk our bikes.  Once one the ridge
it's nice- short.

http://g.co/maps/nbgdy

I love this multi-trail thing: what a great way to get out of traffic,
into nature, but still feel fast and smooth once on the asphalt.

Tse-Sung

On Jan 4, 4:15 pm, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote:
 When I lived in Berkeley, my favorite mixed-terrain route was to take
 the seaview trail from Inspiration Point up to Grizzly Peak. The
 on-road parts of the ride varied, but it was typical to go up Spruce
 and come down Claremont or Tunnel. No Rivendells back then, so I did
 it on a 700c hybrid Miyata.

 Horace.







 On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 7:51 AM, TSW tsesun...@gmail.com wrote:
  Yes- my first 'country bike' ride.  It started out pretty downhill,
  then rolling hills.  Must do again, or try variants; head further
  east, or the Marin headlands, etc.  It's nice to be cruising along in
  the wilderness, no car traffic.

  Tse-Sung

  On Jan 2, 5:07 pm, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'll have to try this ride sometime... seems like a lot of fun!

  René

  On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 10:54 AM, TSW tsesun...@gmail.com wrote:
   hi all,
   Sorry if this has been discussed already- is there a place where
   people have posted or can post trail recommendations?  Could be a
   thread here... or a Google spreadsheet perhaps?  I know there must be
   online resources... I was thinking something that's a bit more Riv-
   ish- country biking and all that- a mix of road and not terribly
   technical off-road.

   TIA,
   Tse-Sung
   Berkeley

   ps- yesterday, in our neck o' the woods, I started at Inspiration
   Point in Tilden and took a trail down into Wildcat Canyon, then took
   the Wildcat Creek trail all the way to the Alvarado Staging Area in El
   Sobrante.  A really nice ride.  Met some very nice dogs too :-)

   More:

  http://g.co/maps/dq3c7

   Hit the 3D button on the left, to fly it.

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RE: [RBW] Suggestions on price please

2012-01-05 Thread Ashlock, Eric
Charlotte - 

What are the specifications of the builds for the two bikes (i.e.
wheels, derailers, cranks, etc.)?

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[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lola
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 8:57 AM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Suggestions on price please

We bought two Rambouillet bikes new in 2006 and love them. One is blue,
60cm, cost $2617, the other is green, 58cm,  cost $2545. Although well
ridden, they are kept indoors and are in excellent condition. Brooks
saddles look pristine, as does the handlebar tape and just about
everything else, although of course there are a few scratches.
Unfortunately we are now living,  and will be traveling soon, on our
boat and they just take up too much room. We reluctantly need to sell
them.
Any suggestions on price? We live in the SF Bay Area.

Thanks for your help.

Charlotte

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[RBW] Re: Upgrading my Trek 520?

2012-01-05 Thread Smitty-A-Go-Go
One of the main reasons I bought an AHH is because it fit me so well. I, 
like you have always had to fiddle with long seat posts, too short TT, stem 
extensions, etc to get a good fit. And It doesn't even sound like I'm as 
tall as you (I was on the 65/67 AHH divide... went 65 and happy about it). 

I don't have a Hunq but I do remember reading somewhere that if an Atlantis 
is too small go Hunq or Bomba for loaded touring. 

I think about a Hunq for loaded touring or just to have a fat tire off road 
bike, but the reality is that anything more than one or 2 night out is not 
in the cards for a while and the off roading I'm interested in is do-able 
with AHH with 40mm tires. 

In the spirit of spreading out the cost... I bought the AHH as a frame and 
got components from donor bikes and have been upgrading slowly. 

Proper fit and being suitable for the intended purpose are equally 
paramount criteria in my mind. Thinking my bike is cool is a close 
second.

  

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[RBW] Rebates ready.

2012-01-05 Thread Dave Rivbike
I just sent this out to the email list;

Rebates Are Ready- http://eepurl.com/ieaQU

Only two days left to use them towards sale items.


On Dec 23 2011, 10:32 am, Smitty-A-Go-Go 54ca...@gmail.com wrote:
 My understanding is that accumulated 2011 rebates will be awarded as a lump
 sum in early 2012 and that the new next day rebate policy goes into
 effect after the new year. There's a lot of assumption on my part though.

 As a mostly unrelevant but sort of vaguely related side note... gotta love
 those procrastinating family members who live across the country. I got an
 early Xmas present last night from just such a relative. It was an email
 Riv gift certificate the gift that keeps on giving.

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[RBW] Re: Rebate Reflex

2012-01-05 Thread ted
Im glad I took the advice to shop early for best selection.
Looks like platracks and slicersacks are gone now, and the twin strut
top rack price is now the same as the regular one (when the sale
started it was even lower, which seemed unreal).


On Jan 4, 5:43 pm, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Too bad they sold out of those brand V panniers I had my eye on... the grid
 grey ones might have also been a good match for my AHH... oh well, I would
 have felt guilty using my rebates on zero-margin items anyhow. :-)







 On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote:
  Got the e-mail that the rebates were up, and immediately returned to the
  sale for a few more things. MUSA pants, the Campy front changer, a dirt
  drop stem for my Bombadil Bullmoose/Noodle bar-swap option and added some
  small non-sale things while I was at it. Two packages from Rivendell en
  route at one time - life is good.

  Marty

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Re: [RBW] Rebate Reflex

2012-01-05 Thread Andrew
but, the Bullmoose... it seems as if the Hunqa and the Bomba have lost a
keen option...

I saw something very cool and very bubb-moose-ish at RBW on Saturday. It
made a lot of sense, and maybe it presages something new. We'll see, eh?

- Andrew, Berkeley

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 Same w/ the Bullmoose.   I'm still stunned it was on the cut list.   I can
 see thinning color selections, etc., but, the Bullmoose... it seems as if
 the Hunqa and the Bomba have lost a keen option...

 But, Riv has to do what it has to do



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[RBW] Re: 62cm Rivendell Quickbeam in Silver, $1200

2012-01-05 Thread Mattt
 
 
The Quickbeam is sold.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fender Frustration

2012-01-05 Thread Chris
Hey René,

I actually did use one of the bolt slots to stabilize the fender (by 
switching out the original bolt to a longer one that goes through the 
fender, adding a spacer between the fender and the diving board, and 
securing the fender with nut/washer), but it's still rubbing when the wheel 
is turned all the way to the right.  Is it similar to the way you secure 
your fender?

Comparing to the boss on the Mini Front, the bolt is at least an inch 
further back (towards the rear of the bike).  I can't help but wonder if 
the rubbing would stop should the fender be secured closer to the front 
tip.  Does anyone have a spare long front diving board that used to come 
with Mark's rack?

On the hand, I also wonder about my installation.  The relative space 
between the tire and the fender should stay constant when the fork turns, 
right?  There must be something that got caught and causes a slight 
rotation on the fender line.  Perhaps something underneath the fork crown 
daruma?  Should I loosen the nut under the fork crown daruma a bit?  Any 
suggestions?

I'll try to post some pictures later (I moved the bikes to the bike room 
after our ride on the 1st as the weather turned cold).

Thanks!

Chris  

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[RBW] School-bus yellow, mustard

2012-01-05 Thread Joe Bernard
I have an AHH I purchased from a listmember last year. It came in a custom 
light-green metallic (kind of a Prius green) that I'm less enthralled with 
than I expected. I'm going to send it to Rivendell Local Painter Guy (also 
local to me) for a respray. I'd be interested to see any photos of bikes 
with yellowish/mustard colors. I remember a Saluki being for sale a 
year-or-so ago that had a sort of school-bus yellow, offset with red pedal 
straps, that was very pretty. I also found this on a link at www.rivbike.com. 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/3710512379/in/pool-rivendell, which 
looks like hot mustard to me..also very nice. Any pics of bikes in this 
color range would be most appreciated.
 
Thanks,
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

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[RBW] Re: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding?

2012-01-05 Thread newenglandbike
You may have misread Bill's post (or maybe I am misreading it).I don't 
think anyone was suggesting riding in the center of the road. However, 
'taking the lane', or moving away from the shoulder to discourage motor 
traffic from trying to 'squeeze past' when it is not safe to do so (road is 
too narrow, oncoming traffic, debris in the shoulder, etc) is a well 
documented strategy for riding a bicycle safely on the roads.   Sure it 
isn't gospel, and some disagree with this strategy-   but to heck with 
anyone (police or whoever) who tells me not to use it-  it has saved my ass 
many times, whereas obsequiously hugging the shoulder has proven hazardous 
(in my experience).


Safe travels

-Matt

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Re: [RBW] Re: Upgrading my Trek 520?

2012-01-05 Thread Rex Kerr
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyways, that's my theory about the wonky fit of the TIG-welded 520's.
 I'll probably never sell mine because of its sentimental value--i'll hang
 the frame on the wall if i'm not using it.   Recently, I've been thinking
 about putting upright bars--like an albatross--on it to deal with the fit
 issues without using some kind of crazy stem.  Or maybe I'll put on the
 Nitto Trekking bar I picked up at the garage sale a little while
 back...although my fiance looks at me like I'm crazy when I say that.


Here's one option that I considered:

http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/quillinator

This plus a Nitto Technomic would probably look cleaner and get the bars
higher than the cludge that I've got on there now, but the price gives some
sticker shock. :-)


Interesting thoughts on the threadless geometry switchover...

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Re: [RBW] School-bus yellow, mustard

2012-01-05 Thread MSmith
Here's mine.  It was a standard color for customs at the time I got
mine.  Harvest Gold is the Imron name.  It's a very distinguished color,
if I do say so myself.

http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2007/cc360-michaelsmith0807.html

Cheers- Mike in chilly So. Boston, Mass



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 I have an AHH I purchased from a listmember last year. It came in a custom
 light-green metallic (kind of a Prius green) that I'm less enthralled with
 than I expected. I'm going to send it to Rivendell Local Painter Guy (also
 local to me) for a respray. I'd be interested to see any photos of bikes
 with yellowish/mustard colors. I remember a Saluki being for sale a
 year-or-so ago that had a sort of school-bus yellow, offset with red pedal
 straps, that was very pretty. I also found this on a link at
 www.rivbike.com.
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/3710512379/in/pool-rivendell, which
 looks like hot mustard to me..also very nice. Any pics of bikes in this
 color range would be most appreciated.

 Thanks,
 Joe Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.

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[RBW] Re: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding?

2012-01-05 Thread Joe Bernard
I believe the main point of James' post is being missed. It seems directed 
at arguments among cyclers here recently. The man has a point, which I will 
take into consideration before hitting reply in the future. In my other 
internet life I have a running political discourse with a group of folks 
on the other side of the ideological fence. There's a slightly 
confrontational style to it which we consider part of the sport, and I 
think it bleeds into my comments here too often. I'll work on it.
 
 

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Re: [RBW] Re: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding?

2012-01-05 Thread Anne Paulson
When I ride in the center of the lane, which is normally called
taking the lane, I don't do it in the spirit of retaliation. Rather,
I do it when in my judgement the lane is too narrow to allow passing.
I hope to signal to following cars that there is no room to pass and
they shouldn't try it. Hugging the gutter in such cases tempts drivers
to try to pass when it's unsafe.

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 In the spirit of peace love and understanding...

 Retaliation is not a sustainable strategy.  Riding in the center of
 the road merely serves to irritate your fellow travelers and
 reinforces negative stereotypes and behavior directed towards you as
 well as all other bikes on the road.  The only sensible choice is hold
 yourself to your own high standard of behavior and hope that others
 choose to do the same.  You can no more make driving choices for them
 than they can riding choices for you.

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[RBW] Re: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding?

2012-01-05 Thread newenglandbike
WTF is that supposed to mean!?   You clearly have no idea what you're 
talking about.  :)

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[RBW] Re: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding?

2012-01-05 Thread Joe Bernard
Yep. That's pretty much how it works. ;-)

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Re: [RBW] Re: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding?

2012-01-05 Thread Robert F. Harrison
Actually in Honolulu taking the lane is more or less gospel...at least when
necessary. I generally keep a copy of the regulations in my bag just in
case I ever do get stopped (hasn't happened yet).

Riding on roadways and bikeways (§291C-145)

When traveling slower than the normal speed of traffic, bicyclists are to
ride as close to the right hand curb or on the shoulder of the roadway, as
practical. Be careful when passing a stopped vehicle or one going the same
direction. There are the allowed exceptions to the right hand rule:

When preparing for a left turn at an intersection, private road, or
driveway;

When necessary to avoid hazards that make it unsafe to ride along the right
hand curb. *This includes situations where the traffic lane is too narrow
for a bicycle and a motor vehicle to travel safely side-by-side*; or


For me this is particularly applicable on one short stretch of road I have
to everyday on my way home from work. It's four lanes, two each way, and
the right hand lane is very slow because of folks turning right to schools
and a freeway entrance. I ride in the left hand lane because I'm much
faster than the traffic in the right hand lane and not any slower than the
left lane traffic. To top it off I turn left after about three blocks of
this anyway. The police have never said a thing, indeed given the schools
in the area and the level of traffic they are often in the around and I've
actually ridden in the left lane behind them.

Today though, on my way to work I had to deal with a one of things I hate
the most, a driver coming up behind me, pulling out to pass then
immediately getting back into the right lane to make a right hand turn in
front of me. As there was little traffic I was able to move to the left
lane to pass him while he was still slowing for the turn. What's up with
that? If he'd have just stayed behind me he'd have been to the corner at
pretty much exactly the same time anyway. Sigh. It was a nice morning and I
didn't even yell. Maybe I'm getting better. :-)

Aloha,

Bob



On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 7:43 AM, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.comwrote:

 You may have misread Bill's post (or maybe I am misreading it).I don't
 think anyone was suggesting riding in the center of the road. However,
 'taking the lane', or moving away from the shoulder to discourage motor
 traffic from trying to 'squeeze past' when it is not safe to do so (road is
 too narrow, oncoming traffic, debris in the shoulder, etc) is a well
 documented strategy for riding a bicycle safely on the roads.   Sure it
 isn't gospel, and some disagree with this strategy-   but to heck with
 anyone (police or whoever) who tells me not to use it-  it has saved my ass
 many times, whereas obsequiously hugging the shoulder has proven hazardous
 (in my experience).


 Safe travels

 -Matt

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Re: [RBW] Re: 62cm Rivendell Quickbeam in Silver, $1200

2012-01-05 Thread Robert F. Harrison
I should hope so. :-)

Congrats to the seller and buyer. I love my QB.

Aloha,

Bob

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[RBW] Re: School-bus yellow, mustard

2012-01-05 Thread Pondero
This was called school bus yellow by Rivendell when I ordered it...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28889177@N06/6338526725/in/set-72157622988506313

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[RBW] Re: Fender Frustration

2012-01-05 Thread Minh
Chris,

I think you're going down the right track, as your turning the wheel
the fender is likely pivoting somewhere.  it could be that the stays
for the fender are not aligned, it could be you're not getting a good
seat at the daruma between the daruma rubber washer and the fender, so
that it's creeping into the head-tube.  I would not loosen the daruma
as i think that would cause it to wobble/creep more.

The herse guys have this nifty widget
http://www.renehersestore.com/servlet/the-520/Fender-Wedge-for-underside/Detail
meant to create a more positive seal between fender and daruma.  i was
looking at this until i rigged up my DIY solution as i was having the
same sort of wobble/creep at the front of my fender.



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 Hey René,

 I actually did use one of the bolt slots to stabilize the fender (by
 switching out the original bolt to a longer one that goes through the
 fender, adding a spacer between the fender and the diving board, and
 securing the fender with nut/washer), but it's still rubbing when the wheel
 is turned all the way to the right.  Is it similar to the way you secure
 your fender?

 Comparing to the boss on the Mini Front, the bolt is at least an inch
 further back (towards the rear of the bike).  I can't help but wonder if
 the rubbing would stop should the fender be secured closer to the front
 tip.  Does anyone have a spare long front diving board that used to come
 with Mark's rack?

 On the hand, I also wonder about my installation.  The relative space
 between the tire and the fender should stay constant when the fork turns,
 right?  There must be something that got caught and causes a slight
 rotation on the fender line.  Perhaps something underneath the fork crown
 daruma?  Should I loosen the nut under the fork crown daruma a bit?  Any
 suggestions?

 I'll try to post some pictures later (I moved the bikes to the bike room
 after our ride on the 1st as the weather turned cold).

 Thanks!

 Chris

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Re: [RBW] Re: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding?

2012-01-05 Thread Joe Bernard
On the topic of taking the lane , I've had much success with hand 
signals. I get a hand out to warn the driver I'm pulling away from parked 
cars now; hold up one finger to exclaim hang on a minute and we'll get 
past this together; then a wave-by as I swerve back to the right when 
the curb opens up. I purposely do an exaggerated big swoop to the right, 
which tells the driver I'm getting the heck outta your way so you can get 
on with your day, and thanks for waiting. 
 
I believe this goes a long way towards keeping the peace, because the 
driver is being communicated with that this is temporary, instead of 
sitting there thinking of me as an endless road block. I also think it 
teaches them what we're dealing with: Oh, he's not just arbitrarily 
taking up the whole damn road. He's run out of room. If we think all 
drivers instinctively understand this, we're wrong.

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Re: [RBW] Re: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding?

2012-01-05 Thread Anne Paulson
This is genius. I wave drivers by to let them know I know they're
there, but I didn't have a signal for, Calm down, I know you're
there, hang on a minute.

On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:
 On the topic of taking the lane , I've had much success with hand signals.

 hold up one finger to exclaim hang on a minute and we'll get past this
 together;
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fender Frustration

2012-01-05 Thread René Sterental
This is also a good suggestion. However, the Rene Herse adapter/widget
won't work well with forks and sidepull brakes due to the rear brake bolt
interference that doesn't allow the daruma to be centered.

René

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Re: [RBW] Re: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding?

2012-01-05 Thread William
I had that experience up on Wildcat.  Just past the botanical gardens 
Wildcat is narrow and winding two lanes.  I took the lane and a car came up 
behind me.  I saw an approaching car that the car behind me could not see 
because I had a better view around the bend.  I put the left hand down for 
stay back.  After the approaching car passed I had a good view of the road 
a good distance up and it was clear.  I waved them up. and the car passed 
safely using the entire oncoming lane.  The passenger rolled down the 
window and waved and gave a thumbs up.  

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[RBW] Re: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding?

2012-01-05 Thread Bill Carter
Matt wrote:

 I don't think anyone was suggesting riding in the center of the
road. However, 'taking the lane', or moving away from the shoulder
to discourage motor traffic from trying to 'squeeze past' when it is
not safe to do so (road is too narrow, oncoming traffic, debris in the
shoulder, etc) is a well documented strategy for riding a bicycle
safely on the roads.

You read me correctly, Matt, not middle of the road but away from the
shoulder and toward the center of the right lane to discourage such
risky passing.  Sorry if I was not clear enough, and I appreciate the
clarification.  The SUVs and pickups in rural GA are much bigger than
I am, so Bruce is right also.  Retaliation is not the brightest idea.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fender Frustration

2012-01-05 Thread René Sterental
Forgot to add that this rubbing when climbing standing doesn't happen on my
Atlantis with its Berthoud fenders. Again, while it is a possibility that
the Honjo fender on the AHH is twisting somehow (it was my first metal
fender installation ever and I may have gotten better with all the practice
I've had), I still believe wheel flex under pressure while turning or
leaning the bike has to be factored as well.

More ideas are welcome!

René

On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 10:38 AM, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is also a good suggestion. However, the Rene Herse adapter/widget
 won't work well with forks and sidepull brakes due to the rear brake bolt
 interference that doesn't allow the daruma to be centered.

 René



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Re: [RBW] Re: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding?

2012-01-05 Thread Eric Norris
I have found that drivers appreciate it when I let them know that they're 
behind me. I wave forward when it's safe to pass, and if there's a car coming 
that they may not be able to see (or if there's something in road that I need 
to ride around, again that they probably wouldn't see) I wave them back. Almost 
without exception, I get a good response from motorists.

... Which brings to mind the time that a friend and I pulled up to a stop at a 
signal. The motorist who also stopped at the signal rolled his window down to 
thank us for stopping, noting that most riders wouldn't have stopped.  Being 
guilty of that myself (not stopping) on occasion, I know that there is work to 
be done to build good will for cyclists, which is why I try to be as courteous 
as possible whenever I can.

--Eric N
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 I had that experience up on Wildcat.  Just past the botanical gardens Wildcat 
 is narrow and winding two lanes.  I took the lane and a car came up behind 
 me.  I saw an approaching car that the car behind me could not see because I 
 had a better view around the bend.  I put the left hand down for stay back.  
 After the approaching car passed I had a good view of the road a good 
 distance up and it was clear.  I waved them up. and the car passed safely 
 using the entire oncoming lane.  The passenger rolled down the window and 
 waved and gave a thumbs up.  
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[RBW] Re: FS: 50cm Rivendell Rambouillet

2012-01-05 Thread Manuel Acosta
This bike is a beauty. I've had the great opportunity to see this bike
in person and I'm kinda sad that Duy is selling it. I'm pretty sure
this bike is a 52cm. I would have tried to steal this bike if it was a
50cm. I agreed the bike doesn't really suit Duy's riding style. Before
Duy left to LA he was my go-to-riding buddy when it came to local bike
rides. He has a great ability to pick a bike that, after touring on a
(ghasp) carbon fork, doesn't fit his riding needs. Congrats to that
lucky person who snags this beauty

Pictures prove that the bike exist:
http://flic.kr/s/aHsjxvzoXM

-Manny
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 I bought it from someone in LA who was selling it, he had it in
 pristine condition as he did not ride it often. He did not know what
 the specs are so I don't know. I have been to lazy myself to look, if
 you want to know what they are I can easily find it out myself. The
 amount of teeth on the crank chainrings and rear cassette were not a
 big deal to me as I just saw a bike I wanted at the time and just
 wanted to ride. After riding sometime with the rambouillet, and the
 type of riding I do I found that this bike is just not for me. The
 crank is a sugino but I'm not sure if it is the same as the XD shown
 on the rivbike website. I am sad to part with it but it is not the
 bike I am looking for and so I rather it go to someone else who wants
 the bike and will put it to good use.

 Duy

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  What is your history with this bike? Not knowing the number of teeth on the
  crank's chainrings is unusual for a Riv owner.

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[RBW] Re: SRAM Automatix versus Sturmey Archer S2 Duomatic on SimpleOne

2012-01-05 Thread David Spranger
Thanks to both of you. The SRAM is also available without a coaster brake. 
I lean in the direction of the Sturmey Archer Duomatic only because Sturmey 
Archer products are so serviceable. I am not sure of the serviceability of 
the SRAM. I have had some feedback that the kickback shifiting of the 
Sturmey is problematic, but it may just be a getting used to it type 
thing. Pudge, when you have a chance to use yours can you comment on this?

Thank you,
David Spranger
Charlotte, NC

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Re: [RBW] Re: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding?

2012-01-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I've found that, even in bike lanes, riding more toward the left actually
encourages drivers to give me more room: creeping along at the far right,
even in bike lanes, seems to tell drivers that they can crowd the bike lane.

Fortunately, Albuquerque is both pretty mellow for cyclists and (at least
in the newer parts) has good bicycle infrastructure in lanes, routes, paths
and -- a few years ago -- publicity to share the road. I've had a few
idiots come close to sideswiping me, but 8/10 of this sort of thing -- in
itself rare, thank God -- is simply inattention rather than deliberate.

We've had a 3-foot law for at least a decade.

An aside: our new Republican governor, who took over in a surprise win from
3-timer, old-time-NM-Democrat-machine mayor Marty Chavez, who did much to
make the city more aesthetic, livable and cycle-able, has very
meritoriously kept cycling and other livability goals at the top of his
administration's list.

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 Jim,
 I believe we all have had similar experiences.  A recent law was
 passed here in Georgia that requires motorists to give cyclists at
 least three feet clearance, but it remains to be seen whether the
 police will actually enforce it, and publicity to educate the motoring
 public about the new law has been sorely lacking.  I was once buzzed
 on an uphill by a huge black SUV, and I moved over toward the center
 of the lane thinking that might dissuade the next idiot from trying
 the same stunt.  Well, a sheriff's car pulled me over to lecture me
 for not riding far enough to the right.  I was tempted to ask him how
 many cars he had pulled over in his career for buzzing cyclists too
 close, but I figured arguing with the long arm of the law might not be
 a good idea.  Thanks for the reminder to be careful out there, and
 to be respectful of others on the forum because life's just too
 short.
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Re: [RBW] Re: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding?

2012-01-05 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 10:26 -0800, Joe Bernard wrote:
 On the topic of taking the lane , I've had much success with hand
 signals. I get a hand out to warn the driver I'm pulling away from
 parked cars now; hold up one finger to exclaim hang on a minute and
 we'll get past this together; then a wave-by as I swerve back to
 the right when the curb opens up. I purposely do an exaggerated big
 swoop to the right, which tells the driver I'm getting the heck
 outta your way so you can get on with your day, and thanks for
 waiting.  

Clever, but I think you have to be VERY careful about how you display
that one finger, so it won't be mistaken for a very different one-finger
hand signal...



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Re: [RBW] Re: Upgrading my Trek 520?

2012-01-05 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 09:21 -0800, islaysteve wrote:
 Well, these last few posts are interesting in that I'm keeping a watch
 out for a touring bike (or f/f) for my daughter.  Of course the 520
 has been high on the list, but maybe overpriced in the used market.  A
 Riv is out of the question for economic reasons, so are there other
 older tourers that you folks would suggest?  We're not in a position
 to buy immediately, and I will probably repost a similar question down
 the line.  But I  thought I'd bring it up since it seems relevant
 here.

Some other good touring bikes include:
- Bruce Gordon Rock 'n Road Tour, BLT and Taiwanese BLT
- Kogswell P/R
- Cannondale touring model (people forget, but their first bikes were
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[RBW] Re: FS: 50cm Rivendell Rambouillet

2012-01-05 Thread islaysteve
Thanks for the pix, Manny.  i was wondering about those crazy-looking 
cranks, before I figured out what they were!  Cheers, Steve

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[RBW] Re: FS: 50cm Rivendell Rambouillet

2012-01-05 Thread Joe Bernard
Dang, look at that. With the 26-inch wheels and road brakes, it's a dead 
ringer for the first-year XO-1. My size, too. Sheesh. 

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[RBW] Riv Spoof Today on BikeSnobNYC

2012-01-05 Thread islaysteve
This guy is so funny, if you're not reading him, you 
should: http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/.  I hope that Grant doesn't 
eliminate the toothpicks from the RBW inventory.  What a loss that would 
be!  Steve

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[RBW] Re: Riv Spoof Today on BikeSnobNYC

2012-01-05 Thread Joe Bernard
Ok, I'll admit it. In possibly the first wave of anti-hipness against the 
hipness of the guy who's anti-hipness..Bike Snob isn't funny. It's not 
bad or wrong or anything negative and important like that. It's just 
not funny. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Spoof Today on BikeSnobNYC

2012-01-05 Thread Jim Mather
I find it hysterical.  Plus Riv advertises on it and hosted him in Walnut
Creek.

Chacun a son gout,
jim m
wc ca

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 Ok, I'll admit it. In possibly the first wave of anti-hipness against the
 hipness of the guy who's anti-hipness..Bike Snob isn't funny. It's not
 bad or wrong or anything negative and important like that. It's just
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[RBW] Re: Riv Spoof Today on BikeSnobNYC

2012-01-05 Thread William
Funny is in the eye of the beholder.  If you don't want to find bsnyc 
funny, I bet you'll succeed in not finding him funny.  If you want to be 
amused by his writing, I bet you'd succeed at that, too.  I find bsnyc 
funny.  

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[RBW] Re: Riv Spoof Today on BikeSnobNYC

2012-01-05 Thread Joe Bernard
Au contraire, I've tried many times to find him funny. He seems like a nice 
fellow, and I appreciate his connection/friendship with Grant. It just 
doesn't work for me. Like I said, I don't mean anything negative by it. 
It's more about me than him; I expected to like his stuff, and am surprised 
I don't. 

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Re: [RBW] Riv Spoof Today on BikeSnobNYC

2012-01-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
So Riv actually carries those toothpicks? I thought BS was joking. That's a
case of reality imitating satire.

Patrick likes both Rivendell and BSNYC Moore

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 http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/.  I hope that Grant doesn't eliminate
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[RBW] Re: Riv Spoof Today on BikeSnobNYC

2012-01-05 Thread dougP
BSNYC may be an acquired taste.  I've read him occasionally, found
some of the stuff funny, some tedious.  I rec'd his book for Christmas
 thoroughly enjoyed it.  His characterizations are especially on-
target, although I did feel a bit slighted that bike touring got so
little ink.  Guess we're just not hip enough to create interest.

dougP

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 So Riv actually carries those toothpicks? I thought BS was joking. That's a
 case of reality imitating satire.

 Patrick likes both Rivendell and BSNYC Moore





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 http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/.  I hope that Grant doesn't eliminate
  the toothpicks from the RBW inventory.  What a loss that would be!  Steve

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[RBW] Re: Riv Spoof Today on BikeSnobNYC

2012-01-05 Thread EricP
Am with Doug on this one.  Liked the book.  The blog, not so often.
This was okay.  Did get a chuckle from the toothpicks.  Happen to have
a set of those Rivendell picks. (Direct, via Target Boutique).
Haven't tried them while riding my Sam Hillborne, though. With my
luck, would end up putting my eye out.

Eric (not Red Ryder) Platt
St. Paul, MN

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 BSNYC may be an acquired taste.  I've read him occasionally, found
 some of the stuff funny, some tedious.  I rec'd his book for Christmas
  thoroughly enjoyed it.  His characterizations are especially on-
 target, although I did feel a bit slighted that bike touring got so
 little ink.  Guess we're just not hip enough to create interest.

 dougP

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  So Riv actually carries those toothpicks? I thought BS was joking. That's a
  case of reality imitating satire.

  Patrick likes both Rivendell and BSNYC Moore

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo or RB1?

2012-01-05 Thread Kelly Sleeper
Actually it was relating to the subject line.. ROADEO or RBI.. then when the 
Roadeo is suggested it is treated as being no different than an 80's whatever.  
I disagree with that and that you get the Rivendell ride from all of those 
bikes.
Not a matter of anger or being snarky, just thought it was funny.   I've seen 
my wife and she had the xtralight Merlin, and a Lemond.  Both sat there and 
were  never ridden after she got the Rodeo.  Eventually she sold the Merlin 
extralite.
Every review I've seen on the Roadeo from other owners on here has been very 
positive.The few short rides I've had on the Roadeo have been impressive.  
Just wish they made won big enough for me.   
Considering is a swiss army knife no different than an 80's trek or just an 
over priced steel wannabe is ok.. just surprising since we are in a Rivendell 
forum.  Figured some other owners would have spoke up.

Patrick, yes I took it as baiting and didn't think you were serious about 
wanting an honest review or thought as you've read the same posts and more as I 
have.  I also know that how a bike feels to me may not be the same as it will 
feel for you.
Just as I don't believe a long haul trucker rides the same as an atlantis.  For 
me it's a fact I've ridden them side by side... other disagree.  Take the 
silver brakes off and put on a dura-ace group, thread less headset and 700x25 
tires and go.
Bicycle magazine indicated they didn't think the roadeo was smooth enough when 
they made the tires hard instead of the pressure that was recommended.  

So as much as I enjoy your posts about your trikes and other bikes and such.. 
yes this one felt like a bait people into giving information that you had no 
intention of using.  Since you already had the information about the Roadeo 
posted on here many times with outside reviews that you've read.
With the large list of objections and reasons and price to not own a Roadeo why 
ask about it even?  That was my perspective on it.  So ya baiting and funny.. 
not a slam on you.. just an observation. 

Sure as heck not a word in anger.. see all of this typing to say what I said in 
what a sentence.. :)   When I bought my AHH I took a 14 hour round trip drive 
to ride one before ordering.  I don't care if GOD himself said it road great I 
wasn't spending that kind of money without riding it.
I'm glad the Country Bike Shop was there or I would have ended up flying to 
California to ride one first.  

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Re: [RBW] Roadeo or RB1?

2012-01-05 Thread robert zeidler
All of this just about has me ready to pull the trigger.
On a new Calfee with the Adventure set-up.

On Thursday, January 5, 2012, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote:
 Actually it was relating to the subject line.. ROADEO or RBI.. then when
the Roadeo is suggested it is treated as being no different than an 80's
whatever.  I disagree with that and that you get the Rivendell ride from
all of those bikes.
 Not a matter of anger or being snarky, just thought it was funny.   I've
seen my wife and she had the xtralight Merlin, and a Lemond.  Both sat
there and were  never ridden after she got the Rodeo.  Eventually she sold
the Merlin extralite.
 Every review I've seen on the Roadeo from other owners on here has been
very positive.The few short rides I've had on the Roadeo have been
impressive.  Just wish they made won big enough for me.
 Considering is a swiss army knife no different than an 80's trek or
just an over priced steel wannabe is ok.. just surprising since we are in a
Rivendell forum.  Figured some other owners would have spoke up.

 Patrick, yes I took it as baiting and didn't think you were serious about
wanting an honest review or thought as you've read the same posts and more
as I have.  I also know that how a bike feels to me may not be the same as
it will feel for you.
 Just as I don't believe a long haul trucker rides the same as an
atlantis.  For me it's a fact I've ridden them side by side... other
disagree.  Take the silver brakes off and put on a dura-ace group, thread
less headset and 700x25 tires and go.
 Bicycle magazine indicated they didn't think the roadeo was smooth enough
when they made the tires hard instead of the pressure that was recommended.

 So as much as I enjoy your posts about your trikes and other bikes and
such.. yes this one felt like a bait people into giving information that
you had no intention of using.  Since you already had the information about
the Roadeo posted on here many times with outside reviews that you've read.
 With the large list of objections and reasons and price to not own a
Roadeo why ask about it even?  That was my perspective on it.  So ya
baiting and funny.. not a slam on you.. just an observation.

 Sure as heck not a word in anger.. see all of this typing to say what I
said in what a sentence.. :)   When I bought my AHH I took a 14 hour round
trip drive to ride one before ordering.  I don't care if GOD himself said
it road great I wasn't spending that kind of money without riding it.
 I'm glad the Country Bike Shop was there or I would have ended up flying
to California to ride one first.

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[RBW] Re: Riv Spoof Today on BikeSnobNYC

2012-01-05 Thread grrlyrida
I'm with Joe. First I thought maybe it's a guy thing, but I just
don't find him amusing or funny. I guess funny is in the eye of the
beholder.

On Jan 5, 3:25 pm, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:
 Au contraire, I've tried many times to find him funny. He seems like a nice
 fellow, and I appreciate his connection/friendship with Grant. It just
 doesn't work for me. Like I said, I don't mean anything negative by it.
 It's more about me than him; I expected to like his stuff, and am surprised
 I don't.

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[RBW] Re: School-bus yellow, mustard

2012-01-05 Thread Bill Carter
Joe,
Here's a link to pics of my 97 Waterford 1250, acquired a few months
ago used on ebay.  According to Richard Schwinn's response to my
inquiry about the color, this is a Waterford frame repaint in
HyperCanary Yellow, a two stage color with white base then yellow then
clearcoat .

http://www.flickr.com/photos/73687646@N04/6644647059/in/photostream/

Not mustard, but sure is yellow.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Spoof Today on BikeSnobNYC

2012-01-05 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 18:29 -0800, grrlyrida wrote:
 I'm with Joe. First I thought maybe it's a guy thing, but I just
 don't find him amusing or funny.

Neither do I.



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[RBW] Re: SRAM Automatix versus Sturmey Archer S2 Duomatic on SimpleOne

2012-01-05 Thread Philip Williamson
Another factor -  the Sturmey/Archer customer service is of Rivendell
caliber. Sturmey North America is a one-person office in Napa, CA. I
had a couple of mechanical issues with my S3X, and they were taken
care of quickly, courteously, and with zero hassle.

 Philip

Philip Williamson
www.biketinker.com


On Jan 5, 11:24 am, David Spranger daspran...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks to both of you. The SRAM is also available without a coaster brake.
 I lean in the direction of the Sturmey Archer Duomatic only because Sturmey
 Archer products are so serviceable. I am not sure of the serviceability of
 the SRAM. I have had some feedback that the kickback shifiting of the
 Sturmey is problematic, but it may just be a getting used to it type
 thing. Pudge, when you have a chance to use yours can you comment on this?

 Thank you,
 David Spranger
 Charlotte, NC

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[RBW] Re: School-bus yellow, mustard

2012-01-05 Thread Joe Bernard
WOW, Bill, that one really pops. I see a bit of lime green on my monitor. 
Is it there, or just a computer distortion?

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[RBW] Re: Riv Spoof Today on BikeSnobNYC

2012-01-05 Thread Philip Williamson
Well that was the most civilized BikeSnob / RBW discussion I've ever
seen. The practice is paying off, I guess.
I'm on record as finding BSNYC quite funny, but humor isn't really
something you can vote on.

 Philip


On Jan 5, 2:32 pm, islaysteve alkire...@verizon.net wrote:
 This guy is so funny, if you're not reading him, you
 should:http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/.  I hope that Grant doesn't
 eliminate the toothpicks from the RBW inventory.  What a loss that would
 be!  Steve

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[RBW] Re: Riv Spoof Today on BikeSnobNYC

2012-01-05 Thread Joe Bernard
I'm sure I miss a lot of the humor because I've never been heavily immersed 
in bike culture. I don't do group rides, or tour, or brevets. I've never 
been a hyper-fast roadie in team lycra, or owned a fixie. Almost all of 
my riding career has been spent just going for a ride on a series of 
Bridgestones, and a couple Rivs..with a several-year foray into recumbents. 
Both Riv culture and bent culture are so easily mocked for already 
being niches within niches within niches that it's hard to make it much 
funnier than just pointing at us and saying, What the hell is going on 
over there? 
 
Joe there's something going on here, but you don't know what it is, do 
you..? Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

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[RBW] Re: Riv Spoof Today on BikeSnobNYC

2012-01-05 Thread William
Joe

Maybe you're jealous that BSNYC is using your favorite trope.  Namely 
putting quotation marks on just about everything.  

Seriously just joking around.

Artisinally


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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Spoof Today on BikeSnobNYC

2012-01-05 Thread Anne Paulson
I don't find him funny either. Occasionally I read him again, to see if I've 
changed my mind, but I find reading his stuff vaguely unpleasant. No accounting 
for tastes.

On Jan 5, 2012, at 6:29 PM, grrlyrida grrlyr...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm with Joe. First I thought maybe it's a guy thing, but I just
 don't find him amusing or funny. I guess funny is in the eye of the
 beholder.
 

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[RBW] Re: Riv Spoof Today on BikeSnobNYC

2012-01-05 Thread Joe Bernard
I have no idea what you're talking about, said Joe, in reply to 
William. 
 
Joe air quotes Bernard

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Re: [RBW] Re: Goals for 2012

2012-01-05 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Some of my non-cycling related goals for this year include reading
 some books I've always meant to but just haven't gotten around to
 reading--Moby Dick, Infinite Jest, Les Miserables. We'll see.


Do yourself a favor: Skip infinite jest entirely and go see Les
Miserables performed somewhere good.

There are also some wonderful graphic novel adaptations of moby dick.

Not all the 'classics' are worth bothering with.
-sv

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Re: [RBW] Fenders/Tires for Rom

2012-01-05 Thread Seth Vidal
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote:
 Anyone out there running the SKS P35 fenders on a Rom?  Is there room
 to get a Grand Bois 30 (32 actual) under there?


I'm running the SKS longboards on a rom with grand bois 30's w/o a problem.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/5826669250/in/set-72157624558173869
and
http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/5826118685/in/set-72157624558173869

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[RBW] Re: Roadeo or RB1?

2012-01-05 Thread Ely Rodriguez
Hi Patrick,
Happy New Years!
I wonder what the geometry and tubing differences are between the two? I've 
always liked my RB-1's, my fastest brevet was on one. 
Does anyone know the tubing specs?
Ely

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo or RB1?

2012-01-05 Thread Seth Vidal
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:32 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for all the replies, suggestions and offers of various bikes (too
 poor for the nonce to buy one). I like the old racing bike idea and,
 actually, before I bought the Herse, had thought of priddying up the '73
 Motobecane that I in fact sold to Eric Norris of this list -- light, toute
 531 leger and nice handling with long stays and nimble front. Which brings
 me full circle to the original thread: I rather regret now (20 years after
 the fact) selling my 1989, Sante equipped all 531C Falcon: shitty,
 Britain-in-industrial-decline paint job and wheels and tasteless Sante
 powdercoat, but a nice, long-stayed, short front-center frame that would
 have made a very decent gofast with some decent wheels and properly set up.



RB's
RB2:
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/bik/2776927409.html

RB1:
http://providence.craigslist.org/bik/2767749207.html


Not sure on the sizes - just what craigslist tells me.

No affiliation at all.

-sv




 On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 2:25 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Responding to Patricks original post.

 I filled that description with a 1984 Trek 770.  It features standard
 diameter 531 tubing, and takes 28s (Roly-Poly).  I bought the complete bike
 from the original owner for $600.  I then parted out the Campagnolo Super
 Record stuff through the regular channels.  At the moment my running total
 has me owning the frame/fork/headset/saddle/wheelset/handlebar for a total
 outlay of $25.  It takes 28s and doesn't even hint at racks or fenders,
 because it has no brazeons.  I'm supremely happy with it.  It's got a 2x7
 compact double drivetrain on it now, and I will be using it on brevets this
 year.  I've even got it set up with a decaleur and have ridden it with a
 sizeable handlebar bag, despite the guarantees that such a setup is
 absolutely unrideable.

 As willing as you've demonstrated yourself to be in parting things out, I
 think this route could be fruitful for you as well.  There are good
 geo-charts available for both Trek and Bridgestone online, so you could buy
 off craigslist without having to ask a bunch of sizing minutia from your
 seller.

 I keep a 1992 RB1 at a family vacation home in the midwest as well.  No
 need for compact double out in the cornfields.

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Re: [RBW] Last ride in 2011 and first ride with Ray Shine!

2012-01-05 Thread Ray Shine
Rene is gracious to a fault, and his company was great!  He's correct about the 
compliments that he received. And I was amazed at the numbers of those 
compliments.  I attribute that to the stunning Atlantis that he rides. To 
borrow 
a  phrase from my boat-building days, Rene really pays keen attention to  
detail, and that makes all the difference.  Virtually everyone who  called out 
a 
compliment was passing the both of us on a racing bike. I  was chagrined 
because my Riv went virtually unnoticed behind Rene's  gorgeous Atlantis. Even 
the sole Riv-rider we came across didn't notice  that I, too, was aboard a Riv 
until I commented on the fact after he had  announced It's nice to see another 
Riv rider out here! That's how  magnetic Rene's build is. Bike lovers can't 
take their eyes off of  it.

After close inspection of Rene's new cockpit set up, we both  started to wonder 
why RBW is apparently putting them on hiatus?  They  are exquisite bars. (Upon 
my return home, I went to RBW site with the  thought that I'd buy a set. Alas! 
Sold out!)  


Good ride, good, company, and great bikes! For me, it was a good end to a 
not-so-good year.




From: René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, January 2, 2012 12:02:27 AM
Subject: [RBW] Last ride in 2011 and first ride with Ray Shine!


Bidding good-bye to 2011 couldn't have been any better. In great RBW spirit, I 
finally met fellow list member Ray Shine who had always offered to take me on 
rides around San Francisco. It is entirely my fault for having taken so long, 
but it finally happened.
 
Yesterday I met with Ray at the San Francisco Marina and together we rode over 
accross the Golden Gate Bridge and then up Conzelman Road into the Marin 
Headlands to do Ray's loop. Being the last day of the year and with the 
gorgeous 
weather we had, the place was invaded with tourists on cars and rental bikes. 
Luckily, the rental bikes were turning left into Sausalito and not going up 
Conzelman Road. Ray was amazed at how many cars there were, so we were careful 
but had no issues.
 
Plenty of roadies on CF bikes passed us, and while no one asked how much our 
bikes weighed (who would ask that after taking a look at me...?) I got an 
incredible number of compliments on my Atlantis. Even Ray complimented my bike 
when we first met. He was complaining that no one was giving him any 
compliments 
on his black Yves, although a couple of people complimented us both as they 
passed. Still, he couldn't believe the number of compliments.
 
After taking some photos of the view of the Golden Gate, the city and the Bay 
at 
the highest vista point, we went down the 18% descent that has seen Ray crash 
twice last year; fist in January when he broke his collarbone and recently when 
he had his rim blow-out. We went cautiosly with cars coming behind us and 
pumping the brakes so the rims wouldn't heat up too much and stopped in the 
middle where more photos were taken. That descent is absolutely breathtaking. 
It's not just the 18% downhill grade, it's the fact that you have the ocean in 
front of you and just a guard-rail between you and the breathtaking view. Just 
awesome.
 
After the descent we continued on Conzelman Road to its end, took some more 
photos of the two bikes and then Ray got me on the Atlantis with all the silver 
parts reflecting the setting sun. Back via Bunker Road and then up to Conzelman 
Road via McCullough Road for a final descent on the steepest initial climb up 
Conzelman, back over the Golden Gate Bridge and finally, once down on Crissy 
Field the search for a coffee place that was closed and then further ahead, a 
Starbucks that was open. 

 
Having had nothing to eat since breakfast, combined with a few days of getting 
back on the proper eating plan plus not enough riding in the past 6 months 
resulted in my legs feeling completely empty by the time we finished the ride. 
A 
good soy latte and a chicken sandwich restored me and tasted like glory. Ray's 
company and guiding was nothing short of wonderful and to me, the first of many 
wonderful rides that I'll be asking him to take me along. 

 
On our way back after crossing the Golden Gate we saw the only other Rivendell 
bike that we'd see all day, and as luck would have it, the owner ran into us 
again as we were walking from the Starbucks to find a bench to sit down and eat 
on the Marina. Words and salutations were exchanged, mutual admiration comments 
on our bikes (he was riding a beautiful orange Sam) and he and Ray exchanged 
contact info since both live in the city and Ray has seen him before. 

 
For me, the most incredible thing was how incredible the spirit of both Ray and 
this other rider who is in his 70s is. As a younger man in my early 50s, it's 
awesome to see how these men contradict the traditional image I grew up with 
that as we got older we were just not supposed to be doing these things 

[RBW] paddle plugs to attach cyo to son hub

2012-01-05 Thread Seth Vidal
What do you call the paddle plugs you would use to attach a cyo light
to a son hub. They are 5mm wide and I don't know what they are called
but I need a couple of them to attach this light.

Also - does anyone have a nicer/quicker way of attaching them that
doesn't involve nearly as much cursing as it has been my experience
they do (especially when it is either wet or cold).

Thanks,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders/Tires for Rom

2012-01-05 Thread Seth Vidal
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've got VO 45 aluminum fenders on my Ram;  I started out w/ 32 Paselas but
 was having rubbing, especially under the fork, switched down to RuffyTuffys
 (28s).

 Through glass cuts in sidewalls, ended up putting a Pasela back on under the
 rear. That's how I'm currently riding, 32 in rear, 28 in front.  It's
 close, but no rubbing.

 I haven't tried SKS fenders, don't know how they'd do differently...


They don't have the extra material on the lip of the fender. so the
place where most of the rubbing occurs for me w/metal fenders doesn't
exist on the plastic fenders.

-sv

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Re: [RBW] Last ride in 2011 and first ride with Ray Shine!

2012-01-05 Thread Ray Shine
Rene is gracious to a fault, and his company was great!  He's correct about the 
compliments that he received. And I was amazed at the numbers of those 
compliments.  I attribute that to the stunning Atlantis that he rides. To 
borrow 
a  phrase from my boat-building days, Rene really pays keen attention to  
detail, and that makes all the difference.  Virtually everyone who  called out 
a 
compliment was passing the both of us on a racing bike. I  was chagrined 
because my Riv went virtually unnoticed behind Rene's  gorgeous Atlantis. Even 
the sole Riv-rider we came across didn't notice  that I, too, was aboard a Riv 
until I commented on the fact after he had  announced It's nice to see another 
Riv rider out here! That's how  magnetic Rene's build is. Bike lovers can't 
take their eyes off of  it.

After close inspection of Rene's new cockpit set up, we both  started to wonder 
why RBW is apparently putting them on hiatus?  They  are exquisite bars. (Upon 
my return home, I went to RBW site with the  thought that I'd buy a set. Alas! 
Sold out!)  


Good ride, good, company, and great bikes! For me, it was a good end to a 
not-so-good year.




From: René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, January 2, 2012 12:02:27 AM
Subject: [RBW] Last ride in 2011 and first ride with Ray Shine!


Bidding good-bye to 2011 couldn't have been any better. In great RBW spirit, I 
finally met fellow list member Ray Shine who had always offered to take me on 
rides around San Francisco. It is entirely my fault for having taken so long, 
but it finally happened.
 
Yesterday I met with Ray at the San Francisco Marina and together we rode over 
accross the Golden Gate Bridge and then up Conzelman Road into the Marin 
Headlands to do Ray's loop. Being the last day of the year and with the 
gorgeous 
weather we had, the place was invaded with tourists on cars and rental bikes. 
Luckily, the rental bikes were turning left into Sausalito and not going up 
Conzelman Road. Ray was amazed at how many cars there were, so we were careful 
but had no issues.
 
Plenty of roadies on CF bikes passed us, and while no one asked how much our 
bikes weighed (who would ask that after taking a look at me...?) I got an 
incredible number of compliments on my Atlantis. Even Ray complimented my bike 
when we first met. He was complaining that no one was giving him any 
compliments 
on his black Yves, although a couple of people complimented us both as they 
passed. Still, he couldn't believe the number of compliments.
 
After taking some photos of the view of the Golden Gate, the city and the Bay 
at 
the highest vista point, we went down the 18% descent that has seen Ray crash 
twice last year; fist in January when he broke his collarbone and recently when 
he had his rim blow-out. We went cautiosly with cars coming behind us and 
pumping the brakes so the rims wouldn't heat up too much and stopped in the 
middle where more photos were taken. That descent is absolutely breathtaking. 
It's not just the 18% downhill grade, it's the fact that you have the ocean in 
front of you and just a guard-rail between you and the breathtaking view. Just 
awesome.
 
After the descent we continued on Conzelman Road to its end, took some more 
photos of the two bikes and then Ray got me on the Atlantis with all the silver 
parts reflecting the setting sun. Back via Bunker Road and then up to Conzelman 
Road via McCullough Road for a final descent on the steepest initial climb up 
Conzelman, back over the Golden Gate Bridge and finally, once down on Crissy 
Field the search for a coffee place that was closed and then further ahead, a 
Starbucks that was open. 

 
Having had nothing to eat since breakfast, combined with a few days of getting 
back on the proper eating plan plus not enough riding in the past 6 months 
resulted in my legs feeling completely empty by the time we finished the ride. 
A 
good soy latte and a chicken sandwich restored me and tasted like glory. Ray's 
company and guiding was nothing short of wonderful and to me, the first of many 
wonderful rides that I'll be asking him to take me along. 

 
On our way back after crossing the Golden Gate we saw the only other Rivendell 
bike that we'd see all day, and as luck would have it, the owner ran into us 
again as we were walking from the Starbucks to find a bench to sit down and eat 
on the Marina. Words and salutations were exchanged, mutual admiration comments 
on our bikes (he was riding a beautiful orange Sam) and he and Ray exchanged 
contact info since both live in the city and Ray has seen him before. 

 
For me, the most incredible thing was how incredible the spirit of both Ray and 
this other rider who is in his 70s is. As a younger man in my early 50s, it's 
awesome to see how these men contradict the traditional image I grew up with 
that as we got older we were just not supposed to be doing these things 

Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders/Tires for Rom

2012-01-05 Thread Seth Vidal
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Esteban kemm...@gmail.com wrote:
 28mm seems to be the practical limit with fenders on the Ram/Rom.



I promise I'm not making it up. :)


   http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/6318127027/


The grand bois cypres.
SKS longboards.

The front rim is a synergy the rear is a salsa delgado cross.

-sv

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam vs SimpleOne

2012-01-05 Thread Philip Williamson
Thanks, Jason. That's the best side-by-side comparison I've seen of
the Quickbeam vs the SimpleOne. For my part, the tangible differences
are a wash. I prefer the the SO's color and clearance, and my green
QB's lighter tubing and lack of doo-dads. I like the QB color, I just
like muddier colors better.

 Philip

Philip Williamson
www.biketinker.com


On Jan 3, 8:28 pm, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote:
 my boss has a 58 Quickbeam.  I have a 58 Simpleone.  I've ridden both
 and feel that I can sort of compare them.  I've also worked on his and
 built mine up so I've seen a lot up close.
 I think Charlie is right in that the Simpleone has very slightly
 thicker tubingbut that doesn't really translate to a tangible
 difference when riding for me.  I'm 150lbs.   I THINK my Simpleone
 has a slightly more raked fork than the Quickbeam, but I'm not sure.
 The Simpleone has fancier lugs than his Orange Quickbeam.  They both
 seem to have the same geometry to the naked eye.  What is tangible for
 me are the front fork rack eyelets and the four top-rack eyelets in
 the back which not all Quickbeams have.  Also tangible for me means
 having a kickstand plate which the QB doesn't.  Also, someone at Riv
 will have to confirm, but it seems from looking at the bikes that tire
 clearance is just a bit more on the Simpleone, but I haven't
 measured.  I have been so happy I purchased the Simpleone.  It's set
 up as a speedy drop-bar single speed and I love it that way, though
 I'm sure I'll turn it into something else at some point, i.e. trail
 bike, grocery bike, upright, gearedsince it's so versatile.

 For $800 it's a no-brainer.

 http://tinyurl.com/7et8mau

 Jason

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders/Tires for Rom

2012-01-05 Thread Seth Vidal
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:
 I ran SKS35s with 28 Ruffy Tuffys. There's know way you're gonna get 32s on 
 the front with the stock Shimano brakes.


Are the longboards wider, then? B/c I don't have any problem with the shimanos.

-sv

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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam vs SimpleOne

2012-01-05 Thread Jim Mather
Great looking bike! And you're right -- at $800 it's a very good buy. If I
didn't have a QB, I'd be getting a SO.

jim m
wc ca

On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 8:28 PM, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.comwrote:

 my boss has a 58 Quickbeam.  I have a 58 Simpleone.  I've ridden both
 and feel that I can sort of compare them.  I've also worked on his and
 built mine up so I've seen a lot up close.
 I think Charlie is right in that the Simpleone has very slightly
 thicker tubingbut that doesn't really translate to a tangible
 difference when riding for me.  I'm 150lbs.   I THINK my Simpleone
 has a slightly more raked fork than the Quickbeam, but I'm not sure.
 The Simpleone has fancier lugs than his Orange Quickbeam.  They both
 seem to have the same geometry to the naked eye.  What is tangible for
 me are the front fork rack eyelets and the four top-rack eyelets in
 the back which not all Quickbeams have.  Also tangible for me means
 having a kickstand plate which the QB doesn't.  Also, someone at Riv
 will have to confirm, but it seems from looking at the bikes that tire
 clearance is just a bit more on the Simpleone, but I haven't
 measured.  I have been so happy I purchased the Simpleone.  It's set
 up as a speedy drop-bar single speed and I love it that way, though
 I'm sure I'll turn it into something else at some point, i.e. trail
 bike, grocery bike, upright, gearedsince it's so versatile.

 For $800 it's a no-brainer.

 http://tinyurl.com/7et8mau

 Jason

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[RBW] Indian bike names

2012-01-05 Thread Allan in Portland
Perhaps this gives away my NW Indiana roots, but I gotta say Calumet would 
be kinda nice for a bike name. However, those who've never made steel from 
ore, or known someone that knew someone who did, probably wouldn't 
gethttp://www.google.com/search?q=calumet+indianait.

So... staying with my Indiana roots as root for good indian names, but 
aiming a little less esoteric, I'm not sure one could do better for a bike 
than Tippicanoe. It rolls off the tongue. It's fun to say. Friends and 
strangers alike won't be able to resist adding and Tyler too every time 
they see you with your new bike.

Regards,
-Allan

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[RBW] Re: Indian bike names

2012-01-05 Thread Allan in Portland
Ugh. Of course you'll have to put up with the repeated miss-spellings of it 
on the interwebs. Could give eBay and Craigslist bloodhounds something to 
keep themselves doubly busy with.

...shouldda been Tippecanoe

-Allan

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[RBW] Re: Riv Spoof Today on BikeSnobNYC

2012-01-05 Thread Kelly Sleeper
Sounds like a New Yorker to me. :)  I did like the lugged toothpick idea though.

Kelly

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Re: [RBW] Re: Upgrading my Trek 520?

2012-01-05 Thread Kelly Sleeper
Friend of mine rides this one and it's great.. 
http://www.raleighusa.com/bikes/steel-road/sojourn-12/

My wife has this one before the atlantis and my uncle is riding it now.. 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/6645448539/in/photostream

Both are steel and both are under 1000 dollars complete.Then there is the 
Long Haul Trucker that everyone I know practically rides and they rave about 
them.  The look good and frame set is 500 or less .. well it was when we bought 
one for a friend after a theft. 

All good solid long term inexpensive touring specific bikes. 

Kelly

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[RBW] 59cm All-Rounder

2012-01-05 Thread rcnute
Not mine, popped up in my Google Alerts--too big for me but what a
nifty bike!  Somebody buy this!

http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/classifieds/?classified_id=2770

Ryan

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[RBW] paddle plugs to attach cyo to son hub

2012-01-05 Thread Seth Vidal
What do you call the paddle plugs you would use to attach a cyo light
to a son hub. They are 5mm wide and I don't know what they are called
but I need a couple of them to attach this light.

Also - does anyone have a nicer/quicker way of attaching them that
doesn't involve nearly as much cursing as it has been my experience
they do (especially when it is either wet or cold).

Thanks,
-sv

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[RBW] Low Miles 59 CM ROADEO FOR SALE! KILLER PRICE!

2012-01-05 Thread MustacheBar
An awesome low miles Roadeo for a great price,

-Sram APEX Drive Train
-Nice Velocity Wheels with 105 hubs

Climbs like a goat, flies like a cloud only $2800!!

Call Finn at

Home: 510-525-5551
Cell: 510-410-0314
Email: fi...@pacbell.net

Pictures links below:

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[RBW] Sam Hill Borne 52 CM Frame Fork Wheels and Extras Low Miles GREAT PRICE

2012-01-05 Thread MustacheBar
-Taiwan built 52 CM Sam Hill Borne Frame and Fork with Rivendell
Economy Dior Hub Wheel Set

Plus: Barely used Grand Bois Herte Tires
Plus: Barely used set of Maxy Fasty Tires
Plus: Shimano Brakes
Both sets are cushy and fast
Kickstand

All SUPER CLEAN

Pictures Links Below:

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Incredible price of 1100$

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[RBW] 59cm Riv A/R for sale on Bend, OR CL

2012-01-05 Thread Norman Bone
This looks like a nice score for someone. No affiliation, etc.


http://portland.craigslist.org/grg/bik/2785466823.html

-Norman in PDX

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[RBW] Re: Fenders/Tires for Rom

2012-01-05 Thread kolbyt
Trying this again because my earlier post didn't seem to go through,
or something...

I too am running GB Cypres on my Rom with VO fenders and it's working
great; highly recommended.

But I'm not sure why Esteban says that the Rom should be ridden as the
classic road bike that it is. His points about other models from the
time doing country bike, big clearance duty makes sense, and frankly I
would love to throw down for an AHH and not fiddle with fitting bigger
tires on the Rom. But if you look at the geometries of those two
bikes, not to mention the certain similarities in the original
literature about them being versatile road-ish bikes (or maybe it's
not a Riv if it can't be described thus), the two don't seem so
different, clearance aside. Am I wrong there? Not to diminish the
centrality of clearance in everyone's thinking here, but if the
difference is between a 35 on the AHH and a 32 on the Rom, does that
warrant a new bike? Or, to reverse the question, what about the AHH
makes it less of a brevet bike than the Rom aside from the fact that
it *can* run bigger tires?

Kolby


On Jan 3, 2:51 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:
  I ran SKS35s with 28 Ruffy Tuffys. There's know way you're gonna get 32s on 
  the front with the stock Shimano brakes.

 Are the longboards wider, then? B/c I don't have any problem with the 
 shimanos.

 -sv

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Re: [RBW] Re: Indian bike names

2012-01-05 Thread Stonehog
There are a couple of Northern MN tribes that may qualify good naming.  While 
Fond Du Lac may be more steel friendly in that they are in the iron range 
county of Cloquet near Duluth, I prefer the Bois Forte name for its translation 
as strong wood. Seems to fit the steel/leather product motif. 

http://www.indianaffairs.state.mn.us/tribes_fonddulac.html
http://www.indianaffairs.state.mn.us/tribes_boisforte.html

These pages also have great inspiration for headbadgery!

Brian Hanson
Former Minnesotan now of Seattle, WA 

On Jan 5, 2012, at 9:24 PM, Allan in Portland allan_f...@aracnet.com wrote:

 Ugh. Of course you'll have to put up with the repeated miss-spellings of it 
 on the interwebs. Could give eBay and Craigslist bloodhounds something to 
 keep themselves doubly busy with.
 
 ...shouldda been Tippecanoe
 
 -Allan
 
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