[RBW] Re: Soma C line: first ride impressions
I've also mounted a set of C lines. On Dyads they mounted easily, straight and true and measure 37mm at 65#. I have about 40 miles on them so far and I must say they are quite comfortable and do well at smoothing out our chronically winter damaged roads here in central NY. The fender line is a bit tight under the VO fenders I am running on the Hilsen but there still is a bit of room still for some fiddling. Here's a pic: http://tinyurl.com/mzste9c On Saturday, November 2, 2013 7:46:48 PM UTC-4, dougP wrote: Today's mail brought good news in the form of a pair of the new Soma C line 700 x 38c tires ( http://store.oceanaircycles.com/products/soma-c-line-tire-700c-x-38mm) from Ocean Air Cycles. I had ordered these on the pre-sale a few weeks ago have been looking forward to trying them out. These will replace my trusty Schwalbes for everyday use, although I'll likely revert for loaded tours. First, they mounted easily without tools or talc on the Mavic A-719 rims on my Atlantis, and were straight true. At 60 psi, they measure 37 mm actual width, immediately after mounting, so I expect them to grow to their spec'd 38 mm with some time at pressure. Nothing left to do except wheel out the door give 'em a try. What a difference in ride quality from what I've grown accustomed to! These really are nice riding tires. A short spin of about 20 miles is all I had time for but plenty of railroad tracks crappy pavement showed them to be quite comfortable. The lighter weight (claimed 400 grams) means they accelerate away from stops climb hills noticeably better. Just all around a more fun ride! The big test will be flat resistance and my lack of patience in dealing with that issue. OTH, that could be a character building experience :-). dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Chain Suck under torque in Granny Gear
Surprised that the granny would need replacement without the cog set needing it as well. Cogs are usually the first to go with a stretched chain--especially the smaller ones. • Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Soma C line: first ride impressions
I'm impressed you can mount tires like these and not get greasy thumbprints all over the sidewalls! I always seem to... On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 4:23 AM, John Philip japhilip4...@gmail.com wrote: I've also mounted a set of C lines. On Dyads they mounted easily, straight and true and measure 37mm at 65#. I have about 40 miles on them so far and I must say they are quite comfortable and do well at smoothing out our chronically winter damaged roads here in central NY. The fender line is a bit tight under the VO fenders I am running on the Hilsen but there still is a bit of room still for some fiddling. Here's a pic: http://tinyurl.com/mzste9c On Saturday, November 2, 2013 7:46:48 PM UTC-4, dougP wrote: Today's mail brought good news in the form of a pair of the new Soma C line 700 x 38c tires (http://store.oceanaircycles.** com/products/soma-c-line-tire-**700c-x-38mmhttp://store.oceanaircycles.com/products/soma-c-line-tire-700c-x-38mm) from Ocean Air Cycles. I had ordered these on the pre-sale a few weeks ago have been looking forward to trying them out. These will replace my trusty Schwalbes for everyday use, although I'll likely revert for loaded tours. First, they mounted easily without tools or talc on the Mavic A-719 rims on my Atlantis, and were straight true. At 60 psi, they measure 37 mm actual width, immediately after mounting, so I expect them to grow to their spec'd 38 mm with some time at pressure. Nothing left to do except wheel out the door give 'em a try. What a difference in ride quality from what I've grown accustomed to! These really are nice riding tires. A short spin of about 20 miles is all I had time for but plenty of railroad tracks crappy pavement showed them to be quite comfortable. The lighter weight (claimed 400 grams) means they accelerate away from stops climb hills noticeably better. Just all around a more fun ride! The big test will be flat resistance and my lack of patience in dealing with that issue. OTH, that could be a character building experience :-). dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Velocity Rims, Again
The Hetere / Velocity thread seems to have veered toward a discussion of handling, so I decided to start over with a slightly different question. I ride the Synergy rim with Pari-Moto tires. It is true that they mount pretty loosely and it is hard to get them perfectly centered but I have gotten them good enough and have no problem with the ride or security. However, I just noticed, in the last issue of BQ, that Velocity is now offering, through Boulder cycles, a new rim, the A23, which they describe as shallower, stronger, and shinier (!). Has anyone on the list tried these rims? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: POLL: You like Gray or black housing for your Rivendell? Ferrules?
to me, black cable housings are the last straw - only go to it when nothing else will work. Gray, white red, and I wish had seen the brass ferrules earlier in the year, but they made it to my wish list. On Sunday, November 3, 2013 12:15:20 AM UTC-5, AaronY wrote: Andy beat me to the punch. If I had to choose, I'd probably go with gray, but I mix and match as I feel and also based on what I have lying around. Right now I have both black and gray on the Sam H. -Aaron Y The Dalles, OR On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Michael john1...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: I see Jagwire even makes reflective housing now. What a great idea.: http://jagwire.com/products/v/universal_sport_brake -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: POLL: You like Gray or black housing for your Rivendell? Ferrules?
Just built up my first Riv (orange Sam) with brass and gray Yokozuna cables from Riv, and it's by far my preference to anything else I've had or seen. Different and classy! Can't imagine this not working on any color of bike, except maybe black... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
Hi Anne, I'm coming to this discussion rather late, but your most recent query leads me to ask if you've looked at the rig set-ups on bikepacking.net? One specific rig might be yamric's fargo 2 configuration. There are multiple photos and a list of whatall is in each bag. Thanks to all who've shared thoughts on this thread; very interesting! Cheers! lyle On Saturday, 2 November 2013, Anne Paulson wrote: Can someone who uses the full bikepacking setup tell me how much it holds? Assuming that the frame bag holds the food, I'm having trouble understanding how a tent (let's say the Hubba), a sleeping bag, a pad and some rainclothes and other extra clothes, plus phone and tools and things like that, can fit in a handlebar roll and a Viscacha saddlebag. And that's not even considering even the most minimal stove. On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Dan Abelson d...@abelsons.netjavascript:; wrote: I have a relevate tangle bag and a revelate mountain feed bag. I like them both a lot. They are well made, well thought out and work great. Dan Abelson St. Paul, MN On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.comjavascript:; wrote: s24o in a snow cave Done that a few times for fun... also sleep outside w/o sleeping bag on a firebed in the mid 30's. . Life is too boring too just sleep in a tent! I have one of his seatbags, very well engineered and well made. I need to get a frame bag next. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:;. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comjavascript:; . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:;. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comjavascript:; . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:;. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comjavascript:; . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hetre/Synergy safety issue?
It's interesting that you bring up tandems. Tandems do have their own requirements – they should not react much to weight shifts, since the captain cannot anticipate when the stoker reaches for a water bottle or scratches their nose – but the best tandems are as nimble at speed as a good single bike. (At very low speeds, you do notice the long wheel base, because the turning radius is larger.) Here, too, front-end geometry is more a determinant of handling than wheelbase. It would be interesting to ride a René Herse Chanteloup tandem with a curved rear seat tube and ultra-short wheelbase back to back with a standard tandem from the same maker with the same front-end geometry, but significantly longer wheelbase... I have ridden both, and both are excellent, but never back-to-back to make direct comparisons. Jan Heine Editor Bicycle Quarterly http://www.bikequarterly.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ On Saturday, November 2, 2013 9:24:04 AM UTC-7, Tim McNamara wrote: On Nov 2, 2013, at 9:48 AM, Jan Heine hei...@earthlink.net javascript: wrote: You are right! The LHT does have LONG chainstays... Most touring bikes I have measured were classic machines that had shorter chainstays than that. My old Mercian tourer had a wheelbase of 1028 mm. Of course, the main determinant of wheelbase is top tube length - a large frame will have a longer wheelbase. I should have said that I was referring to bikes that fit a 6' tall rider like me - otherwise, the wheelbase measurement becomes meaningless. Mainly the longer chainstays are intended to allow the use of larger/lower panniers with less chance of your heels hitting them. I think that a lot of people equate that with a slower handling bike, perhaps not recognizing that the steering geometry of a loaded tourer tends to be different than a road bike, 'cross bike or mountain bike. If you want the comparison in extremis regarding wheelbase consider a tandem or a triplet (although there the front end geometry tends to be different). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Hetre/Synergy safety issue?
I have run into one specific tire with a bead problem, and that is the Challenge Strada clincher (open tubular). On my daughter's Kinlin rims, I can't run the pressure up to 90 psi, but that is not a problem, since she can ride at 75. On my Campy (Omega) Moskva rims, this tire will not bite, period, and I blew out a couple of tubes before I reached 75 psi. No such problem with the Vittoria Corsa 25mm, which seats perfectly and will take unneeded high pressure. The larger Challenge Parigi works OK in the rear. On Friday, October 25, 2013 12:13:39 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote: Someone on a thread here says Hetre BSD size is too big for synergy rims. Am I in danger using these tires with these rims? I don't want them coming off while I am riding. Mine seem to fit my new ( year 2012) Synergy rim fine. Also my Twin Hollow rim. Any advice welcome. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Velocity Rims, Again
I have A23 700C rims, they have been out for a while. Maybe the Herse ones are proprietary in some way? As for the regular A23 rims, I love them. Light, strong, wide, easy to build, hold a tire, spin in a circle, what's not to like? http://www.flickr.com/photos/64942209@N00/8847972692 On 11/3/13, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: The Hetere / Velocity thread seems to have veered toward a discussion of handling, so I decided to start over with a slightly different question. I ride the Synergy rim with Pari-Moto tires. It is true that they mount pretty loosely and it is hard to get them perfectly centered but I have gotten them good enough and have no problem with the ride or security. However, I just noticed, in the last issue of BQ, that Velocity is now offering, through Boulder cycles, a new rim, the A23, which they describe as shallower, stronger, and shinier (!). Has anyone on the list tried these rims? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] My first Riv - at long last. with pic.
Sharing my happiness. After a few years and as many times of nearly ordering a frame from Riv; I bought a used Sam frame used here on the bunch, slapped on my Nitto rear rack, wide low doubles and grip kings (from previous bike), placed an order with Riv (bar tape, twine, tires, cables, kickstand, thumb shifter, shop sack), and another with (not-Riv) for, ummthe rest including Brooks Aged B17, Tektro cantis, TRP RRL levers, rear derailer (i don't run a front), a Nitto dirt drop quill, and Nitto Rando B132 bars. Wheels are Velocity Dyads; one came with the frame and another from Hiawatha Cyclery (thanks Jim!). I feel a little guilty for not getting a couple of the Rivailable things from not-Riv, but I save a buck where I can to fund Riv-only / Riv-cheap-as-anywhere stuff - like the shop sack (this is a great, great product whether or not you have a bike to put it on!), *Just Ride*, knickers, etc. Grant, please forgive me. I am LOVING this bike. The Sam frame is a comfy dream. It's my first 700c bike and even though the Contis are not skinny, they are to me and I feel like a knife in hot butter compared to any other bike I've ever ridden. The drop bars are another first and I have 'em way up on high where they're comfortable and can't be mistaken for anything like racer-mimicry. I had a local bike shop put on the cables and set the brakes and der. The mechanic called me and asked where I wanted the thumb lever. I hadn't given it that much thought, so I reply near the stem, wherever works. I was surprised to find he mounted the humble SunRace *on* the stem where it minimizes cablery, stays outta my way, and works perfect. Many thanks to this innovative mechanic! What's next? Twining my h'bars, cutting down and bolting on the kickstand, and getting a front rack for my med. Wald basket and Riv Shop Sack. Can't wait! Yesterday was its first day out here in Columbia MO - just an easy spin around Cosmo park with my lovely wife and 2 wonderful sons - which reminded me how blessed I am. If any of you end up in CoMO, give me a holler. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. attachment: Sam H 11-2-13.JPG
[RBW] Re: Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
*Hi Ann, * *Check out this site. There are many setups for bikepacking and for the Revelate type setups.* *http://www.bikepacking.net/ * On Thursday, October 31, 2013 2:10:44 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: I'm still thinking about setting up a dedicated mountain bike for offroad touring. As I read journals and articles online, I see that the various frame bags made by Revelate and others are becoming popular. Like this one: https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Seat-Bags/Viscacha And I don't get it. Why would a bag like that, which is small and which has a small opening so it's harder to load, be better than a transverse saddlebag such as Carradice and Riv sell? I was looking at different bikes at my LBS today, and oh, look at that, suddenly mountain bike manufacturers like Salsa are selling rigid bikes as mountain bikes. Hmm. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: My first Riv - at long last. with pic.
Fantastic! That's a great looking Sam and it sounds like you are having a blast putting it together. Rides with wife and kids are especially blessed. Welcome and enjoy the ride! With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, November 3, 2013 9:24:38 AM UTC-7, cbone97 wrote: Sharing my happiness. After a few years and as many times of nearly ordering a frame from Riv; I bought a used Sam frame used here on the bunch, slapped on my Nitto rear rack, wide low doubles and grip kings (from previous bike), placed an order with Riv (bar tape, twine, tires, cables, kickstand, thumb shifter, shop sack), and another with (not-Riv) for, ummthe rest including Brooks Aged B17, Tektro cantis, TRP RRL levers, rear derailer (i don't run a front), a Nitto dirt drop quill, and Nitto Rando B132 bars. Wheels are Velocity Dyads; one came with the frame and another from Hiawatha Cyclery (thanks Jim!). I feel a little guilty for not getting a couple of the Rivailable things from not-Riv, but I save a buck where I can to fund Riv-only / Riv-cheap-as-anywhere stuff - like the shop sack (this is a great, great product whether or not you have a bike to put it on!), *Just Ride*, knickers, etc. Grant, please forgive me. I am LOVING this bike. The Sam frame is a comfy dream. It's my first 700c bike and even though the Contis are not skinny, they are to me and I feel like a knife in hot butter compared to any other bike I've ever ridden. The drop bars are another first and I have 'em way up on high where they're comfortable and can't be mistaken for anything like racer-mimicry. I had a local bike shop put on the cables and set the brakes and der. The mechanic called me and asked where I wanted the thumb lever. I hadn't given it that much thought, so I reply near the stem, wherever works. I was surprised to find he mounted the humble SunRace *on* the stem where it minimizes cablery, stays outta my way, and works perfect. Many thanks to this innovative mechanic! What's next? Twining my h'bars, cutting down and bolting on the kickstand, and getting a front rack for my med. Wald basket and Riv Shop Sack. Can't wait! Yesterday was its first day out here in Columbia MO - just an easy spin around Cosmo park with my lovely wife and 2 wonderful sons - which reminded me how blessed I am. If any of you end up in CoMO, give me a holler. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] My first Riv - at long last. with pic.
Micro-picture doesn't show much, but nothing wrong with an orange Rivendell! Hope you like the drops. High drops are pretty cool as you can really use the hooks a lot more which gives you a ton of control in the dirt (you are going to ride in dirt, right...) :-) Enjoy! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell BBH visit
On Saturday, November 2, 2013 4:53:43 PM UTC-7, BSWP wrote: Anyone tried the barber next door yet? I may soon be needing a new shop for my short haircuts, and would go out of my way to get a good cut with interesting conversation. The best barber in the Creek is DiMaggio's, which is south a few blocks at 1379 N. Main. The owner (1st chair) is a 2nd cousin of Joltin' Joe. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
Thanks, Lyle, that's just what I was looking for. And thanks, Clayton, for also recommending the link. On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 5:57 AM, Lyle Bogart lylebog...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anne, I'm coming to this discussion rather late, but your most recent query leads me to ask if you've looked at the rig set-ups on bikepacking.net? One specific rig might be yamric's fargo 2 configuration. There are multiple photos and a list of whatall is in each bag. Thanks to all who've shared thoughts on this thread; very interesting! Cheers! lyle On Saturday, 2 November 2013, Anne Paulson wrote: Can someone who uses the full bikepacking setup tell me how much it holds? Assuming that the frame bag holds the food, I'm having trouble understanding how a tent (let's say the Hubba), a sleeping bag, a pad and some rainclothes and other extra clothes, plus phone and tools and things like that, can fit in a handlebar roll and a Viscacha saddlebag. And that's not even considering even the most minimal stove. On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Dan Abelson d...@abelsons.net wrote: I have a relevate tangle bag and a revelate mountain feed bag. I like them both a lot. They are well made, well thought out and work great. Dan Abelson St. Paul, MN On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: s24o in a snow cave Done that a few times for fun... also sleep outside w/o sleeping bag on a firebed in the mid 30's. . Life is too boring too just sleep in a tent! I have one of his seatbags, very well engineered and well made. I need to get a frame bag next. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell BBH visit
I'll bet the next-door barber conspicuously started using this in the last couple of weeks: http://www.rivbike.com/proraso-shave-brush-p/goo21.htm On Nov 3, 2013, at 9:24 AM, Jim M. wrote: On Saturday, November 2, 2013 4:53:43 PM UTC-7, BSWP wrote: Anyone tried the barber next door yet? I may soon be needing a new shop for my short haircuts, and would go out of my way to get a good cut with interesting conversation. The best barber in the Creek is DiMaggio's, which is south a few blocks at 1379 N. Main. The owner (1st chair) is a 2nd cousin of Joltin' Joe. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net - 700x55 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: POLL: You like Gray or black housing for your Rivendell? Ferrules?
Both bikes, Bombadil bike, Bromton bike, be black (alliteration intentional). The color is always in stock for touch-up paint, even though it's a shade, not a color. Both have silver SKS fenders, though. And silver cranks and racks. Both have olive green Carradice bags. Brown Brooks CS saddles. MKS pedals. This is sounding like a pattern. Predictable, too. I sometimes get them confused in the early morning, until I try to fold the Bombadil at the bus stop. Finally getting to the point: All cables are black. I think this would be the default. Anyone have silver cables on a black bike? Or know of a pic? (my pics at http://www.flickr.com/photos/sea-fisherman/) Cheers, Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Velocity Rims, Again
the a23 extrusion has been out there for a long time in 700. anthony at longleaf bicycles in new england was the first to pony up the money for a run of 650b a23 rims. they work great, and like all tubeless ready rims, tires fit great on them. the 'new' part with boulder is they are now offering the a23 off-center in 650b, in addition to the regular extrusion for fronts. they also had them polished. its a very good rim. i ran the symmetric ones from longleaf the possible negatives of the a23 extrusion in my mind are: 1. the brake track is not very tall, not as tall as the p23 or 2. the brake track sidewalls are not parallel. they have a slight v shape, ideal for centerpulls and caliper brakes, sub optimal for cantilevers, 3. a modernish look, not as classic as a boxier section -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Soma C line: first ride impressions
I've enjoyed the B-Lines from OAC, for the past few months. It looks like the C-Lines have a tiny bit more grip to them than B-Lines version. For everyday commuting they served me well and even held up against thorns on singletrack. I'm frankly torn between the luxurious comfort of the Fatty Rumpkins, and the smooth and fast nature of the B-Lines! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: POLL: You like Gray or black housing for your Rivendell? Ferrules?
I usually use black, because that is the color most easily found when you buy housing by the foot. I'd prefer grey with some colors -- was going to use grey (gray, graie, greh, gre', what have you) on the Ram but the provider of the grey provided derailleur cable and not brake housing, so it was back to black. Can't see grey with the grean Riv and Fargo. Come to think of it, the little 18 piece (of which only 6 showing) that is the sole cable housing on the '99 gofast fixie may be grey -- heck, I just rode it yesterday. So much for a preference. On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Chris Halasz chal...@gmail.com wrote: Both bikes, Bombadil bike, Bromton bike, be black (alliteration intentional). The color is always in stock for touch-up paint, even though it's a shade, not a color. Both have silver SKS fenders, though. And silver cranks and racks. Both have olive green Carradice bags. Brown Brooks CS saddles. MKS pedals. This is sounding like a pattern. Predictable, too. I sometimes get them confused in the early morning, until I try to fold the Bombadil at the bus stop. Finally getting to the point: All cables are black. I think this would be the default. Anyone have silver cables on a black bike? Or know of a pic? (my pics at http://www.flickr.com/photos/sea-fisherman/) Cheers, Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: POLL: You like Gray or black housing for your Rivendell? Ferrules?
Oh, and I'd love a sufficiently deep red for the sage green with cream Riv #3 -- I know most like brighter colors, but that sage green with cream is one of my favorites, and red seems to accent it nicely. My panniers is red, as are my tape. On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I usually use black, because that is the color most easily found when you buy housing by the foot. I'd prefer grey with some colors -- was going to use grey (gray, graie, greh, gre', what have you) on the Ram but the provider of the grey provided derailleur cable and not brake housing, so it was back to black. Can't see grey with the grean Riv and Fargo. Come to think of it, the little 18 piece (of which only 6 showing) that is the sole cable housing on the '99 gofast fixie may be grey -- heck, I just rode it yesterday. So much for a preference. On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Chris Halasz chal...@gmail.com wrote: Both bikes, Bombadil bike, Bromton bike, be black (alliteration intentional). The color is always in stock for touch-up paint, even though it's a shade, not a color. Both have silver SKS fenders, though. And silver cranks and racks. Both have olive green Carradice bags. Brown Brooks CS saddles. MKS pedals. This is sounding like a pattern. Predictable, too. I sometimes get them confused in the early morning, until I try to fold the Bombadil at the bus stop. Finally getting to the point: All cables are black. I think this would be the default. Anyone have silver cables on a black bike? Or know of a pic? (my pics at http://www.flickr.com/photos/sea-fisherman/) Cheers, Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell BBH visit
I might have to buy one of those shaving brushes. What's the best soap to use it with? I don't worry about haircuts -- 7 years since I saw a barber, so liberating! -- but I do shave. (I hack off 2 off the tail every six months or so: cinch tightly, grip tightly, and chop with sharp scissors. Sometimes relatives do a smoother job.) On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 10:31 AM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.netwrote: I'll bet the next-door barber conspicuously started using this in the last couple of weeks: http://www.rivbike.com/proraso-shave-brush-p/goo21.htm On Nov 3, 2013, at 9:24 AM, Jim M. wrote: On Saturday, November 2, 2013 4:53:43 PM UTC-7, BSWP wrote: Anyone tried the barber next door yet? I may soon be needing a new shop for my short haircuts, and would go out of my way to get a good cut with interesting conversation. The best barber in the Creek is DiMaggio's, which is south a few blocks at 1379 N. Main. The owner (1st chair) is a 2nd cousin of Joltin' Joe. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net - 700x55 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Catalogue
I had a pleasant surprise last week when I found the new Riv catalogue in the box. As good as a reader! If Grant keeps up his diary, the dearth of bike stuff to read won't be as great. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell BBH visit
I'm no help. I use dog clippers for hair and beard. I used to use just a washcloth and hot water and a safety razor, but got even lazier. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, November 3, 2013 12:14:45 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: I might have to buy one of those shaving brushes. What's the best soap to use it with? I don't worry about haircuts -- 7 years since I saw a barber, so liberating! -- but I do shave. (I hack off 2 off the tail every six months or so: cinch tightly, grip tightly, and chop with sharp scissors. Sometimes relatives do a smoother job.) On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 10:31 AM, James Warren jimcw...@earthlink.netjavascript: wrote: I'll bet the next-door barber conspicuously started using this in the last couple of weeks: http://www.rivbike.com/proraso-shave-brush-p/goo21.htm On Nov 3, 2013, at 9:24 AM, Jim M. wrote: On Saturday, November 2, 2013 4:53:43 PM UTC-7, BSWP wrote: Anyone tried the barber next door yet? I may soon be needing a new shop for my short haircuts, and would go out of my way to get a good cut with interesting conversation. The best barber in the Creek is DiMaggio's, which is south a few blocks at 1379 N. Main. The owner (1st chair) is a 2nd cousin of Joltin' Joe. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. James Warren jimcw...@earthlink.net javascript: - 700x55 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: POLL: You like Gray or black housing for your Rivendell? Ferrules?
the only time I used black was when I had to buy Shimano housing by the foot - it's the only housing flexible enough to work with the interrupter brake setup on my daughter's bike On Sunday, November 3, 2013 12:36:27 PM UTC-6, Chris Halasz wrote: Both bikes, Bombadil bike, Bromton bike, be black (alliteration intentional). The color is always in stock for touch-up paint, even though it's a shade, not a color. Both have silver SKS fenders, though. And silver cranks and racks. Both have olive green Carradice bags. Brown Brooks CS saddles. MKS pedals. This is sounding like a pattern. Predictable, too. I sometimes get them confused in the early morning, until I try to fold the Bombadil at the bus stop. Finally getting to the point: All cables are black. I think this would be the default. Anyone have silver cables on a black bike? Or know of a pic? (my pics at http://www.flickr.com/photos/sea-fisherman/) Cheers, Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Catalogue
Agreed. The new catalog(ue) is a masterpiece. I especially love the handwritten final edits--a stroke of genius. I wish it would become the norm! Best, joe broach portland, or On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I had a pleasant surprise last week when I found the new Riv catalogue in the box. As good as a reader! If Grant keeps up his diary, the dearth of bike stuff to read won't be as great. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Velocity Rims, Again
I have a set of Hetres on the 650b version of the A23s. I found them difficult to mount unless I used veloplugs, sometimes the bead wasn't as high as it should be when mounted. I do not have the OC version of the rims for the rear so I can't comment on them. Stephen On Sunday, November 3, 2013 4:26:50 AM UTC-8, Michael Hechmer wrote: The Hetere / Velocity thread seems to have veered toward a discussion of handling, so I decided to start over with a slightly different question. I ride the Synergy rim with Pari-Moto tires. It is true that they mount pretty loosely and it is hard to get them perfectly centered but I have gotten them good enough and have no problem with the ride or security. However, I just noticed, in the last issue of BQ, that Velocity is now offering, through Boulder cycles, a new rim, the A23, which they describe as shallower, stronger, and shinier (!). Has anyone on the list tried these rims? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: 1985 Trek 720 -- Pics
Please send along any reasonable offers. I'm not sure of its market value, but it deserves to be ridden and enjoyed. It's almost mint, and has some seriously high-end (700c conversions) wheels, which have very few miles on them. It's a 24-inch frame, c to c. Pics of Trek 720https://plus.google.com/photos/103167269222729642323/albums/5942153217949691041?authkey=CN37mZbhu9HxdQ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: PDX Sunrise Coffee Club Tomorrow
I've been doing a little bit of coffee riding lately. This Friday, I stopped off on the East Bay Trail for a break. I use a trangia stove and a diy caldera-style cone that wraps around the Klean Kanteen in its Iris Cage. Pictures prove the Klean Kanteen gets a bit blackenedhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/56856126@N02/sets/72157636021321473/, but unscathed, with use. On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 2:50:29 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: I started my 35 mile commute from El Cerrito to South Hayward in the dark this morning and thought of you all. In fact, I got down my mini stove and thought about packing it for a coffee break mid ride. I didn't follow through and do it, but perhaps next time. I try to do that ride once a week. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 1:09:32 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote: Yes, that's exactly where it happens. http://www.soapboxracer.com/ On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Curtis McKenzie cmc...@gmail.comwrote: Wonder pictures. How serene. Is this where they hold the crazy down hill race? A few years ago I was in town and attended a wacky race of gravity powered vehicles. Sadly, I was at work during this time. (in San Diego of course) Curtis On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54c...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks for motivating me out of bed a little earlier than I might otherwise have gotten up. Felt good to get 5 miles and a couple hundred feet climbing in before sunrise... then I got to ride home. Picshttp://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/sets/72157636555160785/ --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] FS: 1985 Trek 720 -- Pics
Hey Bob, that is a beautiful Trek! I cannot justify another touring bike, given the Atlantis in my life, but those pics reminded me of the Trek 720 I had back then and it was a delight to ride, fully loaded or stripped down. Thanks for sharing the pics! I hope you find a buyer soon! Cheers! lyle On 3 November 2013 15:23, Bob linthi...@gmail.com wrote: Please send along any reasonable offers. I'm not sure of its market value, but it deserves to be ridden and enjoyed. It's almost mint, and has some seriously high-end (700c conversions) wheels, which have very few miles on them. It's a 24-inch frame, c to c. Pics of Trek 720https://plus.google.com/photos/103167269222729642323/albums/5942153217949691041?authkey=CN37mZbhu9HxdQ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Winter came early this year
Not in snow, but in getting a project done. Was able to purchase a set of Surly Open Bars from a co-worker this week. Installed them on the Sam Hillborne this morning while waiting for it to warm up a bit more. Took less than an hour with only one cable housing replaced. Stem is a Dirt Drop from my parts bin. Only have a bit over 20 miles on them so far. About half into a 20-30 mile an hour headwind. Appreciated the second hand position. Able to avoid hand numbness even with cheap grips. May do a bit more tweaking, and could end up using a shorter DD stem. Pic to prove it has happened: http://www.flickr.com/photos/14126468@N05/10657309295/ Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell BBH visit
I've been using a brush for years and years. Since I was a teenager, I think. I got two brushes at a garage sale - one is stiff and terrible, and flips soap at the mirror while making a latherless mess. The other is soft and fantastic, creating lots of bubbly shaving foam with very little work. I've used it daily (mostly) since I got it, and it looks and works exactly the same as it ever did. I have a shaving mug, which is just like a regular mug, but with little nubs in the bottom to hold the soap, and I just throw all our old soap slivers in. They lather up beautifully, and if you're showering with soap you like, you'll like the soap you shave with. Every year or two I scrape the mug out and start semi-fresh. Re: Topics later in the thread. The blades I use are Gillette Mach 3(? 5?) Three I think. The older ones that go for weeks. They aren't cheap, but I don't find I buy them very often, either. I used to cut my own hair until about 5 years ago when my vintage clippers died and the new ones I got were just TERRIBLE. Now I just go to the barber, and they do a better job than I could. Philip www.biketinker.com On Sunday, November 3, 2013 11:14:45 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: I might have to buy one of those shaving brushes. What's the best soap to use it with? I don't worry about haircuts -- 7 years since I saw a barber, so liberating! -- but I do shave. (I hack off 2 off the tail every six months or so: cinch tightly, grip tightly, and chop with sharp scissors. Sometimes relatives do a smoother job.) On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 10:31 AM, James Warren jimcw...@earthlink.netjavascript: wrote: I'll bet the next-door barber conspicuously started using this in the last couple of weeks: http://www.rivbike.com/proraso-shave-brush-p/goo21.htm On Nov 3, 2013, at 9:24 AM, Jim M. wrote: On Saturday, November 2, 2013 4:53:43 PM UTC-7, BSWP wrote: Anyone tried the barber next door yet? I may soon be needing a new shop for my short haircuts, and would go out of my way to get a good cut with interesting conversation. The best barber in the Creek is DiMaggio's, which is south a few blocks at 1379 N. Main. The owner (1st chair) is a 2nd cousin of Joltin' Joe. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. James Warren jimcw...@earthlink.net javascript: - 700x55 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell BBH visit
And, reading the previous Badger and Brush lathering tutorial, my technique is ALL wrong. Ha! Way too much water. I'll pay some attention to it this week. Reminds me of espresso forums. There's an easy Master's Thesis in Psychology right there. Philip www.biketinker.com On Sunday, November 3, 2013 6:16:11 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: I've been using a brush for years and years. Since I was a teenager, I think. I got two brushes at a garage sale - one is stiff and terrible, and flips soap at the mirror while making a latherless mess. The other is soft and fantastic, creating lots of bubbly shaving foam with very little work. I've used it daily (mostly) since I got it, and it looks and works exactly the same as it ever did. I have a shaving mug, which is just like a regular mug, but with little nubs in the bottom to hold the soap, and I just throw all our old soap slivers in. They lather up beautifully, and if you're showering with soap you like, you'll like the soap you shave with. Every year or two I scrape the mug out and start semi-fresh. Re: Topics later in the thread. The blades I use are Gillette Mach 3(? 5?) Three I think. The older ones that go for weeks. They aren't cheap, but I don't find I buy them very often, either. I used to cut my own hair until about 5 years ago when my vintage clippers died and the new ones I got were just TERRIBLE. Now I just go to the barber, and they do a better job than I could. Philip www.biketinker.com On Sunday, November 3, 2013 11:14:45 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: I might have to buy one of those shaving brushes. What's the best soap to use it with? I don't worry about haircuts -- 7 years since I saw a barber, so liberating! -- but I do shave. (I hack off 2 off the tail every six months or so: cinch tightly, grip tightly, and chop with sharp scissors. Sometimes relatives do a smoother job.) On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 10:31 AM, James Warren jimcw...@earthlink.netwrote: I'll bet the next-door barber conspicuously started using this in the last couple of weeks: http://www.rivbike.com/proraso-shave-brush-p/goo21.htm On Nov 3, 2013, at 9:24 AM, Jim M. wrote: On Saturday, November 2, 2013 4:53:43 PM UTC-7, BSWP wrote: Anyone tried the barber next door yet? I may soon be needing a new shop for my short haircuts, and would go out of my way to get a good cut with interesting conversation. The best barber in the Creek is DiMaggio's, which is south a few blocks at 1379 N. Main. The owner (1st chair) is a 2nd cousin of Joltin' Joe. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. James Warren jimcw...@earthlink.net - 700x55 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Catalogue
I've barely been able to skim into mine, but I love the ASCII art handlebar shapes. Genius. The overlayed outlines are really good, too. The header style and ligatures are a little distracting, but pretty fresh. I like it all. Philip www.biketinker.com On Sunday, November 3, 2013 1:24:33 PM UTC-8, joe b. wrote: Agreed. The new catalog(ue) is a masterpiece. I especially love the handwritten final edits--a stroke of genius. I wish it would become the norm! Best, joe broach portland, or On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Patrick Moore bert...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I had a pleasant surprise last week when I found the new Riv catalogue in the box. As good as a reader! If Grant keeps up his diary, the dearth of bike stuff to read won't be as great. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Catalogue
I signed in for one as soon as I saw the ad for it, but alas, I guess I wasn't one of the first 5,000 peeps to get it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell BBH visit
I love me my Merkur 1904 model: http://www.flickr.com/photos/64942209@N00/5149860903 Blades are all over the place as you mentioned, but the basic razor is fantastic. On 11/3/13, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I might have to buy one of those shaving brushes. What's the best soap to use it with? I don't worry about haircuts -- 7 years since I saw a barber, so liberating! -- but I do shave. (I hack off 2 off the tail every six months or so: cinch tightly, grip tightly, and chop with sharp scissors. Sometimes relatives do a smoother job.) On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 10:31 AM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.netwrote: I'll bet the next-door barber conspicuously started using this in the last couple of weeks: http://www.rivbike.com/proraso-shave-brush-p/goo21.htm On Nov 3, 2013, at 9:24 AM, Jim M. wrote: On Saturday, November 2, 2013 4:53:43 PM UTC-7, BSWP wrote: Anyone tried the barber next door yet? I may soon be needing a new shop for my short haircuts, and would go out of my way to get a good cut with interesting conversation. The best barber in the Creek is DiMaggio's, which is south a few blocks at 1379 N. Main. The owner (1st chair) is a 2nd cousin of Joltin' Joe. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net - 700x55 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Catalogue
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell BBH visit
Open combs like that nice Merkur are nice razors. They shave nice and close, and don't clog so easily when one hasn't shaved for several days. For Patrick and others, shaving is a regressive technology (now geared primarily towards marketing advances) and many believe that unless you want to go all the way to a straight edge, that the double-edged razor blade is the next best thing. Great razor blades can still be bought as cheaply as disposables (10 cents to 50 cents a blade that will last for perhaps 5 to 10 or more shaves), and the razors themselves (essentially blade holders) from the 1910s to 1970s that one finds in antique stores and thrift stores can be as good or better than those made today. My two favorite razors are a refurbished Gillette open comb at least 50 years old, and a Merkur Slant razor I bought in an antique shop in Luling Texas. I think it was made in Germany in the 1930s. As for blades, each brand is slightly different: some too sharp, some too dull, some quite stiff, some flexible... I like 7 o'clock most of the time, but go for the Kai or Feather if I really want to...carefully... shave really closely. On Sunday, November 3, 2013 6:44:29 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I love me my Merkur 1904 model: http://www.flickr.com/photos/64942209@N00/5149860903 Blades are all over the place as you mentioned, but the basic razor is fantastic. On 11/3/13, Patrick Moore bert...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I might have to buy one of those shaving brushes. What's the best soap to use it with? I don't worry about haircuts -- 7 years since I saw a barber, so liberating! -- but I do shave. (I hack off 2 off the tail every six months or so: cinch tightly, grip tightly, and chop with sharp scissors. Sometimes relatives do a smoother job.) On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 10:31 AM, James Warren jimcw...@earthlink.net javascript:wrote: I'll bet the next-door barber conspicuously started using this in the last couple of weeks: http://www.rivbike.com/proraso-shave-brush-p/goo21.htm On Nov 3, 2013, at 9:24 AM, Jim M. wrote: On Saturday, November 2, 2013 4:53:43 PM UTC-7, BSWP wrote: Anyone tried the barber next door yet? I may soon be needing a new shop for my short haircuts, and would go out of my way to get a good cut with interesting conversation. The best barber in the Creek is DiMaggio's, which is south a few blocks at 1379 N. Main. The owner (1st chair) is a 2nd cousin of Joltin' Joe. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. James Warren jimcw...@earthlink.net javascript: - 700x55 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
Revelate and Rivendell are two ENTIRELY different schools of thought, each having their own merits. I own three Revelate bags and sold a fourth (frame bag): Viscacha (awful name), Gas Tank and Mountain feed bag. All three get swapped back and forth between my mountain bike, fat (snow) bike and gravel bike (Fargo), non of which have a rack. Pros: lightweight; needs no rack; fast and easy to swap between bikes; affordable. Cons: Viscacha is kinda ugly, if that matters. I also own a Hilsen (for sale!) with Rivendell's medium saddlesack. Like the Viscacha, the medium saddlesack swallows everything that I throw into it with room for more. Big Riv saddlesacks weigh considerably more and require a rack if you can't stand the constant thigh rubbing like me. They are beautiful though and that can trump other factors for most. Pros: classic beauty; highest durability (?); best resale value. Cons: Expensive; magnet for astute thieves; can't be placed on and off quickly for frequent store visits, if that matters. Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell BBH visit
Roger, here's my grandfather's Gillette open comb: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/5150469506/in/photostream/ I don't know the age of it, but probably 50 y.o. at least. Works 100% perfectly, but I've been using the Merkur. FWIW, I do a good shave once on a week on the weekend, then a quick dry scrape daily. I hate shaving, but dislike a beard. It's complicated being me. On 11/3/13, Roger rogerdhod...@gmail.com wrote: Open combs like that nice Merkur are nice razors. They shave nice and close, and don't clog so easily when one hasn't shaved for several days. For Patrick and others, shaving is a regressive technology (now geared primarily towards marketing advances) and many believe that unless you want to go all the way to a straight edge, that the double-edged razor blade is the next best thing. Great razor blades can still be bought as cheaply as disposables (10 cents to 50 cents a blade that will last for perhaps 5 to 10 or more shaves), and the razors themselves (essentially blade holders) from the 1910s to 1970s that one finds in antique stores and thrift stores can be as good or better than those made today. My two favorite razors are a refurbished Gillette open comb at least 50 years old, and a Merkur Slant razor I bought in an antique shop in Luling Texas. I think it was made in Germany in the 1930s. As for blades, each brand is slightly different: some too sharp, some too dull, some quite stiff, some flexible... I like 7 o'clock most of the time, but go for the Kai or Feather if I really want to...carefully... shave really closely. On Sunday, November 3, 2013 6:44:29 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I love me my Merkur 1904 model: http://www.flickr.com/photos/64942209@N00/5149860903 Blades are all over the place as you mentioned, but the basic razor is fantastic. On 11/3/13, Patrick Moore bert...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I might have to buy one of those shaving brushes. What's the best soap to use it with? I don't worry about haircuts -- 7 years since I saw a barber, so liberating! -- but I do shave. (I hack off 2 off the tail every six months or so: cinch tightly, grip tightly, and chop with sharp scissors. Sometimes relatives do a smoother job.) On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 10:31 AM, James Warren jimcw...@earthlink.net javascript:wrote: I'll bet the next-door barber conspicuously started using this in the last couple of weeks: http://www.rivbike.com/proraso-shave-brush-p/goo21.htm On Nov 3, 2013, at 9:24 AM, Jim M. wrote: On Saturday, November 2, 2013 4:53:43 PM UTC-7, BSWP wrote: Anyone tried the barber next door yet? I may soon be needing a new shop for my short haircuts, and would go out of my way to get a good cut with interesting conversation. The best barber in the Creek is DiMaggio's, which is south a few blocks at 1379 N. Main. The owner (1st chair) is a 2nd cousin of Joltin' Joe. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. James Warren jimcw...@earthlink.net javascript: - 700x55 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
[RBW] Verboort Sausage Festival Ride Report
Technically a ride of the Mason Hill Rabble Rousers. But since half the bikes were Riv's, I reckon that qualifies for a cross-post. We had a Bombadil, an original Hunqapillar, and two Hilsens. Also, there were 4 Sackvilles, 1 Nigel Smythe, and a very dapper pair of argyle socks. Pictures tell the tale... http://www.flickr.com/photos/47116230@N00/sets/72157637288054215/ If you're in Portland and not on the Rabble Rousers list, you owe it to yourself to join. Cheers, -Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell BBH visit
Ironically, your photo is called The Old but I believe that was a razor that debuted in 1929 and was named The New Here's some fun reading: http://www.mr-razor.com/Rasierer/Gillette%20Rasierer.htm Funnily, the razor that preceded The New was The New Improved. The easiest way to distinguish The New from previous models is that it was the first Gillette not to have the two vampire teeth blade centering pins on the underside of the razor. To me, The New was the pinnacle of Gillette technology, better than the very aggressive razors that came before it and better than all the later solid bar (i.e. not open comb) razors of later decades. On Sunday, November 3, 2013 7:22:54 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Roger, here's my grandfather's Gillette open comb: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/5150469506/in/photostream/ I don't know the age of it, but probably 50 y.o. at least. Works 100% perfectly... snip -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Platrack and Jack Brown Blue
Price reduced to $100 shipped or $90 local pick (in NYC). Please reply offline. Thanks! On Thursday, October 24, 2013 6:13:50 PM UTC-4, Chris wrote: The tires are sold. Platrack is still available. I'm open to reasonable offers. Thanks! On Saturday, October 19, 2013 8:23:10 PM UTC-4, Chris wrote: Nitto Platrack http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r10disc.htm (brand new) In original plastic packaging. Never been installed. Includes the rack, pair of struts, hardware and installation instruction. $130, shipped to Continental USA Jack Brown Blue http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/t100-b.htm (used) A pair (one bike worth) of Jack Brown Blue. Had about 400 miles on them. Never been punctured or had any flats. Still plenty of life left. $70, shipped to Continental USA Please reply offline for offers, questions or picture requests. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Verboort Sausage Festival Ride Report
Allan, Looks like a grand time! And who wouldn't want to ride to a festival with good food. Nice to a familiar face and some new ones to me. Thanks for the share. And if in Portland how does one join this Rabble? ~Hugh On Sunday, November 3, 2013 7:33:10 PM UTC-8, Allan in Portland wrote: Technically a ride of the Mason Hill Rabble Rousers. But since half the bikes were Riv's, I reckon that qualifies for a cross-post. We had a Bombadil, an original Hunqapillar, and two Hilsens. Also, there were 4 Sackvilles, 1 Nigel Smythe, and a very dapper pair of argyle socks. Pictures tell the tale... http://www.flickr.com/photos/47116230@N00/sets/72157637288054215/ If you're in Portland and not on the Rabble Rousers list, you owe it to yourself to join. Cheers, -Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell BBH visit
Ha! That's funny... wasn't intentional, just old in comparison to my new Merkur!!! :-) 'Nother pic shows it definitely being The New model: http://www.flickr.com/photos/64942209@N00/5150469056 That site is pretty fun, quite the rabbit-hole! On 11/3/13, Roger rogerdhod...@gmail.com wrote: Ironically, your photo is called The Old but I believe that was a razor that debuted in 1929 and was named The New Here's some fun reading: http://www.mr-razor.com/Rasierer/Gillette%20Rasierer.htm Funnily, the razor that preceded The New was The New Improved. The easiest way to distinguish The New from previous models is that it was the first Gillette not to have the two vampire teeth blade centering pins on the underside of the razor. To me, The New was the pinnacle of Gillette technology, better than the very aggressive razors that came before it and better than all the later solid bar (i.e. not open comb) razors of later decades. On Sunday, November 3, 2013 7:22:54 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Roger, here's my grandfather's Gillette open comb: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/5150469506/in/photostream/ I don't know the age of it, but probably 50 y.o. at least. Works 100% perfectly... snip -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Verboort Sausage Festival Ride Report
Hey, I've met some of those Rabble Rousers! On 11/3/13, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Allan, Looks like a grand time! And who wouldn't want to ride to a festival with good food. Nice to a familiar face and some new ones to me. Thanks for the share. And if in Portland how does one join this Rabble? ~Hugh On Sunday, November 3, 2013 7:33:10 PM UTC-8, Allan in Portland wrote: Technically a ride of the Mason Hill Rabble Rousers. But since half the bikes were Riv's, I reckon that qualifies for a cross-post. We had a Bombadil, an original Hunqapillar, and two Hilsens. Also, there were 4 Sackvilles, 1 Nigel Smythe, and a very dapper pair of argyle socks. Pictures tell the tale... http://www.flickr.com/photos/47116230@N00/sets/72157637288054215/ If you're in Portland and not on the Rabble Rousers list, you owe it to yourself to join. Cheers, -Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] My first Riv - at long last. with pic.
What stem do you have on the Sam? I am guessing dirt drop, but hard to tell from the picture. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: My first Riv - at long last. with pic.
It's a fine looking Sam, cbone. Happy to hear you are enjoying it with your family. My new (May 24th 2013) just sailed through 2400 miles this weekend and I am really liking it. Meanwhile I have met some wonderful people at an S24O and on this forum. Best regards, Tom On Sunday, November 3, 2013 8:24:38 AM UTC-8, cbone97 wrote: Sharing my happiness. After a few years and as many times of nearly ordering a frame from Riv; I bought a used Sam frame used here on the bunch, slapped on my Nitto rear rack, wide low doubles and grip kings (from previous bike), placed an order with Riv (bar tape, twine, tires, cables, kickstand, thumb shifter, shop sack), and another with (not-Riv) for, ummthe rest including Brooks Aged B17, Tektro cantis, TRP RRL levers, rear derailer (i don't run a front), a Nitto dirt drop quill, and Nitto Rando B132 bars. Wheels are Velocity Dyads; one came with the frame and another from Hiawatha Cyclery (thanks Jim!). I feel a little guilty for not getting a couple of the Rivailable things from not-Riv, but I save a buck where I can to fund Riv-only / Riv-cheap-as-anywhere stuff - like the shop sack (this is a great, great product whether or not you have a bike to put it on!), *Just Ride*, knickers, etc. Grant, please forgive me. I am LOVING this bike. The Sam frame is a comfy dream. It's my first 700c bike and even though the Contis are not skinny, they are to me and I feel like a knife in hot butter compared to any other bike I've ever ridden. The drop bars are another first and I have 'em way up on high where they're comfortable and can't be mistaken for anything like racer-mimicry. I had a local bike shop put on the cables and set the brakes and der. The mechanic called me and asked where I wanted the thumb lever. I hadn't given it that much thought, so I reply near the stem, wherever works. I was surprised to find he mounted the humble SunRace *on* the stem where it minimizes cablery, stays outta my way, and works perfect. Many thanks to this innovative mechanic! What's next? Twining my h'bars, cutting down and bolting on the kickstand, and getting a front rack for my med. Wald basket and Riv Shop Sack. Can't wait! Yesterday was its first day out here in Columbia MO - just an easy spin around Cosmo park with my lovely wife and 2 wonderful sons - which reminded me how blessed I am. If any of you end up in CoMO, give me a holler. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
I see some people use a Revelate front sling, and a more traditional saddlebag. Like this guy: http://www.bikepacking.net/individual_setups/niknaks-niner-emd-on-the-gdmbr/ So Revelate and Carradice can co-exist on the same bike. On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Sean Cleary 1upand1d...@gmail.com wrote: Revelate and Rivendell are two ENTIRELY different schools of thought, each having their own merits. I own three Revelate bags and sold a fourth (frame bag): Viscacha (awful name), Gas Tank and Mountain feed bag. All three get swapped back and forth between my mountain bike, fat (snow) bike and gravel bike (Fargo), non of which have a rack. Pros: lightweight; needs no rack; fast and easy to swap between bikes; affordable. Cons: Viscacha is kinda ugly, if that matters. I also own a Hilsen (for sale!) with Rivendell's medium saddlesack. Like the Viscacha, the medium saddlesack swallows everything that I throw into it with room for more. Big Riv saddlesacks weigh considerably more and require a rack if you can't stand the constant thigh rubbing like me. They are beautiful though and that can trump other factors for most. Pros: classic beauty; highest durability (?); best resale value. Cons: Expensive; magnet for astute thieves; can't be placed on and off quickly for frequent store visits, if that matters. Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell BBH visit
My defolliculaton arsenal includes a Merkur 34C, Personna Red blades (or Feather Hi-Stainless if I'm feeling brave and/or haven't shaved in a bit), Proraso Green soap-in-a-bowl, and some old bristle brush I stole from my father-in-law. Jeff Hagedorn Warragul, VIC Australia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
