[RBW] Re: Brooks opens shoppe in London.

2013-11-19 Thread ascpgh
Excellent Minh! I looked up the location too having walked that area in the 
past.

I bet the exposure of the address is what they seek. Cutting edge design 
and fashion seeks such, rationalized by what must come from marketing 
budgets, certainly not sales volume. It seems almost like a trade show 
booth to them. 

Saw similar in Paris around Place Vendome (happened to visit days preceding 
Fashion Week). Years ago I saw a showroom east of Broadway in lower 
Manhattan that was street level corner address, a single room 20' x 25', 
two walls of windows, a 3' round table in the middle with a single purse on 
it. Several sat on a chair rail shelf on the non-window walls, no storeroom 
or register visible, or so my view through the mail slot surveyed. Turned 
out it was the up and coming accessory designer, Kate Spade's original 
showroom. Whatever the location cost her, the plan seems to have worked if 
it associated the product as intended. 

I hope Brooks doesn't go boutique and pursue image while losing grip on a 
heritage of function, I don't want them to become any more objectified 
across larger audiences than they already are. 

Andy Cheatham
PIttsburgh


On Monday, November 18, 2013 10:55:27 PM UTC-5, Minh wrote:

 I'd like to thank Michael for posting this, i happened to be in London 
 this past weekend and stopped in on Sunday, the pictures on the blog are 
 pretty complete so no need for redundant ones, will add this one though. 

 http://flic.kr/p/hEwDGo

 I talked to the guys at the shop, they were pretty excited that someone 
 walked in and they did not have to explain the point of the shop. 
 I spent 8 pounds on a magazine, and they were nice enough to give me 2 
 free coasters, see pic here http://flic.kr/p/hEvkqW

 I'm not sure how sustainable the shop is given the (low) amount of 
 merchandise, will post some thoughts later when i have some more time.  

 On Sunday, November 17, 2013 7:36:40 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:

 Really striking displays.  My buddy has the road race version of that 
 Mercian.  His moustache conversion with black leather.  

 On Saturday, November 16, 2013 7:19:00 PM UTC-6, BSWP wrote:

 Very colourful! And beautiful bikes, though one marque in particular 
 seems absent... I always like those narrow shotgun retail shops.

 - Andrew, Berkeley

 On Saturday, November 16, 2013 4:36:32 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote:

  
 Some fat tired bikes there, too:
 http://blog.brooksengland.com/wps/b1866-london/



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[RBW] Cable Management (or) More Twine

2013-11-19 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Looks good, it'll be nice to have the light centered too.  Twine'd and 
shellac'd? What rack is that with the front tab?

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Re: [RBW] Re: The intriguing dilemma of having to ride...

2013-11-19 Thread Deacon Patrick
That's what I attempted yesterday, Bob. It worked (as usual) until a bull 
elk came over a nearby ridge, suddenly snorted very loudly (triggering my 
adrenaline), hoofed the ground, and debated whether to charge or not 
(triggering more adrenaline -- can I make that tree if he charges?). He 
thankfully headed off into the woods. About 30 minutes after an adrenaline 
rush comes the adrenaline crash, which is greatly magnified by my brain 
injury. Very little brain energy and my body stops generating heat. This 
was the first time in years Mother Nature has triggered my adrenaline. It's 
a hard brain day as I recover today.

The challenge is greater this time of year. I slowly made my way out 
through the 1-2 of snow on the trail, but it gets dangerous even at 40˚F 
when your body has stopped generating heat. It takes more adrenaline 
kicking in just to make it out, which then magnifies the crash and recovery 
time.

Even more dark comedy, they did no work yesterday (but there is no mobile 
reception on the Peak, so I didn't know till my wife picked me up at the 
trail head). So the plan today is to wait and see if construction happens, 
then go to a friends cabin if needed (where a number of things are more 
challenging than home, but no construction), from which there is remote 
paved road riding, but that carries a lot of risks (namely big truck or 
motorcycle risk).

I don't think I'll risk the remote single track again till spring, even 
when I get good brain days.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, November 18, 2013 8:29:13 PM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote:

 Can you stay in the high country just enough to maintain your peace of 
 mind?


 On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com javascript:
  wrote:

 so get after it - you got no choice - where's that smilie?  


 On Monday, November 18, 2013 8:35:42 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Fortunately, this one won’t make sense to most of you. That’s a good 
 thing. Pray it never really does.

 We learned that the construction on the flooded out bridge and dredging 
 of the late near our house will continue to Thanksgiving, so I have 8 
 business days in which I need to escape the sound from 8am-5pm brain and 
 weather permitting.

 I am blessed that today I get both a happy brain and good weather 
 (sunny, high in the 40’s on Pikes Peak). But it is an intriguing exercise 
 on attitude and countenance when one HAS to leave from home. I get to do 
 what I love doing, but HAVING to do it is something else entirely. Focus on 
 the gifts, rather than dwelling on the pain — I get to put that to use in a 
 whole other way!

 Then we’re trying to figure out January and February, when the parking 
 lot across the creek will be torn up and the flooded out drainage system 
 beneath replaced. Hm. Trying to figure out how to afford a two month 
 trip south (remote camping is the best option for me to avoid the noises 
 that blow up my brain).

 Two years ago, when I needed to escape town for noise (generally in the 
 summer for concerts at the park across the creek) I had no bike and did not 
 ride one. So the Hunqapillar has opened up amazing gift and opportunity 
 these past 18 months.

 Thanks for letting me vent!

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Cable Management (or) More Twine

2013-11-19 Thread Curtis McKenzie
Looks very nice.


On Monday, November 18, 2013, Christopher Chen wrote:

 Set up my light tonight.

 Originally I was going to zip tie along the rack to the hub, but I didn't
 have any small zip ties. I figured while I had the time and the twine I'd
 teach myself the lost practice of cable lacing.

 It doesn't look too bad.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/10940146796/

 Not sure how this'll hold up, but hey.

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Re: [RBW] Re: The evolution of sizing and fit

2013-11-19 Thread Deacon Patrick
+1 to what Bob said. You want whatever lines are athletic or slim fit.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, November 18, 2013 8:17:06 PM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote:

 To the OP I would respond that the Patagonia line has shifted a bit. The 
 Snap T used to be a slightly technical piece of midlayer insulation. That 
 niche now belongs to the regulator fleece. If you look on the website you 
 will see regular fit casual wear, and slim fit technical wear. From 
 what you wrote you would prefer the slim fit.
  


 On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 9:01 PM, George Schick bhi...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 Now this is a rant with which I can definitely identify.  A month or so 
 ago I went to a well known men's store to by a couple of pairs of dress 
 slacks.  I wanted pleated and a size up from my 36 waist to accommodate 
 my late-middle-aged beer gut.  Nothing available; not one pair.  Further, 
 the straight front one's that I tried on fit so tightly that I had 
 trouble even sticking one leg in, not mention zipping them up.  I asked the 
 sales clerk what was up with all of this sizing and style BS.  He said that 
 they've had quite a few complaints from customers about exactly the same 
 thing recently, but that the fashion wizards have taken the clothing market 
 back to the mid-60's - high water pants (at or above the ankle), seriously 
 tapered, and straight front (picture the dress of the original Beatles band 
 from that time period) and there's nothing they can do about it.  Well, 
 that's fine, I suppose, except where's the market they're trying to attract?

 Further, I have found that the less expensive you buy, the smaller the 
 fit-per-size becomes.  I bought some cheap T's from Kohl's this Summer to 
 use for general work around the house and biking.  They fit so snug that I 
 had to take 'em back and exchange for several sizes larger to get ones that 
 were comfortable.  


 On Monday, November 18, 2013 3:44:11 PM UTC-6, jinxed wrote:

 A couple weeks back my trusty Patagonia Snap-T Synchilla that's been 
 with me since college mysteriously disappeared at a coffee shop. Needless 
 to say, I was mad to lose such a long owned and well used piece of clothing.

 Today, I go to check out what colors they come in now so I can make that 
 my one wish for the coming holiday season. Thankfully I find they still 
 make the Snap-T...BUT WTH happened to the cut and sizing?! When I pulled a 
 medium (same size I had) off the rack, I could not believe how HUGE it was! 
 I honestly assumed it was mislabeled. Then I looked at the small...it was a 
 bit smaller, but I realized it was the fit that had changed. It's like it 
 lost all shape and became a trash bag with holes in it. I realize baggy fit 
 was in for a while, but never really associated that with outdoor apparel. 
 So it seems I'll have to find an old one if I want the same thing. Ugh.

 This got me thinking about cycling specific clothing and how (or if) 
 it's changed. For the most part the lycra set has remained 
 unchanged...tight and stretchy is tight and stretchy. But my interest was 
 with styles closer to and specifically Rivendell type items. I noticed a 
 couple of the new clothing items have specifically undergone a slimming 
 recently and mentioned as requested. Not that I saw any of their clothes as 
 baggy per say, but more relaxed. I'm fairly normal 5'8 @ 145lbs so I tend 
 to skirt the small/medium in the MUSA range depending on cut. SO for me a 
 slimmer cut is fine and will most likely fit as intended. But then I know 
 some of the older wool jerseys were more traditionally form fitting. My 
 medium Seersucker fits a little loose in the body, but the collar and 
 sleeves are spot on. Same with the Railroad shirt. Interestingly I have a 
 couple pair of old MUSA shorts in size XL! that work fine on my 32 waist. 
 Weird.

 I've been biking since about 88 and realized that aside from the lycra, 
 all my casual cycling gear has been purchased based on the same fit. Room 
 enough to move, but never baggy. That has worked no matter what type of 
 riding I'm doing.

 All that brought me to thinking about bike fit and sizing too. There has 
 been lots of discussion on the RBW vs. conventional types of fitting and 
 it's probably safe that if you're here you at least in part agree with the 
 former. But then it seems RBW fitting has evolved over time too. Looking at 
 the first All Rounder it was clearly not a bars above the saddle fit. The 
 head tubes got taller, then up sloping top tubes, and newly designed bars 
 to go even higher. I wonder if it will keep going up?

 Do you find yourself wishing that a certain era of fit had frozen in 
 time or do you tend to like the evolving nature of it? Like my Patagonia 
 fleece, I'm disappointed they changed it as it seemed like a perfect design 
 to ME. But then I'm very happy that the fatter tire revolution seems to be 
 gaining steam.

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[RBW] Hetres vs. Pari-Moto, your thoughts?

2013-11-19 Thread Tony DeFilippo
I'll bite... Haven't tried the pari-moto of course.  I'm running on about 1000 
miles or so with my 'extra Leger' 42mm here's.  The only  other 650b tire i can 
compare it to is the col la vie and I'm running the 45mm nomads on my 700c.

If you don't mind paying as much per tire as a nice low profile car tire then 
I'd say the hetre is worth a try. It's a super comfy tire, plenty fast and at 
least for me not a problem for flats. The side walls are delicate though, I've 
got some fraying going on the front tire.

I think I'll try out a different tire when these wear out just to get better 
familiarized with the options out there.  The cost is awfully hi for the EL 
versions.  Then again whenever I ride the bike I find myself wondering 'why 
would I ride any other tires than these...?'

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[RBW] Re: looking for a 64cm Atlantis

2013-11-19 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Popular thread... Third in line but my 64cm Atlantis is a touch large and I'd 
consider a trade.  I'm in the DC area but get up towards Michigan for work 
occasionally.

Tony

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Re: [RBW] Hetres vs. Pari-Moto, your thoughts?

2013-11-19 Thread Steve Palincsar

On 11/19/2013 08:02 AM, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

I'll bite... Haven't tried the pari-moto of course.  I'm running on about 1000 
miles or so with my 'extra Leger' 42mm here's.  The only  other 650b tire i can 
compare it to is the col la vie and I'm running the 45mm nomads on my 700c.

If you don't mind paying as much per tire as a nice low profile car tire then 
I'd say the hetre is worth a try. It's a super comfy tire, plenty fast and at 
least for me not a problem for flats. The side walls are delicate though, I've 
got some fraying going on the front tire.


As bicycle tires go, Hetres aren't all that expensive.  They cost no 
more than a typical 23mm race tire, and they last a lot longer.  And 
since the comparison is between Hetres and Pari Motos, both of which 
cost about the same, on a per mile basis the Hetres are 1/2 to 1/3 as 
expensive since they last easily twice to three times as long.



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[RBW] Re: Hetres vs. Pari-Moto, your thoughts?

2013-11-19 Thread Matthew J
I had both when I had 650B.

Hetres roll well and easy, last long, and are surprisingly flat resistance.

Pari Motos roll well, don't last long, and were flat prone on Midwest roads 
and trails where I otherwise have experienced few flats.

I hardly think Compass is deriding Pari Motos when it calls them event 
tires.  Rather it is accurately stating their intended purpose.  Mike Kone 
at the Rene Herse / Boulder site sells both Hetres and Pari Motos and 
likewise cautions Pari Motos are not meant for everyday use.  Nothing wrong 
with that in my opinion.

On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 12:37:49 AM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote:

 Any thoughts?  I ended up with Pari Motos pretty much because I wanted 
 some other parts from Rivendell and they have free shipping on orders over 
 $150.  Rivendell carries the Pari Motos but not the Hetres.  So that 
 settled it.

 Plus I hate to say it but the Hetres seem heavy to me for what they are 
 supposed to be...a light yet fat supple tire with low rolling resistance.  

 Meanwhile the Compass site derides the Pari Motos as event tires.  Well 
 I do plan on using them for brevets so I guess that counts :)

 Anyone tried them both?  Opinions on one versus the other?  

 Or just unsubstantiated opinions?  Like those too :)


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Re: [RBW] Re: looking for a 64cm Atlantis

2013-11-19 Thread Thomas Dusky
Hi Ryan

Just the frame and fork.

Tom Dusky
248-544-4443
248-915-0222 cell
tdu...@gmail.com

On Nov 18, 2013, at 8:38 PM, Abcyclehank wrote:

 Tom,
 I may be interested also.  Local sale possible since I am a fellow 
 Michigander.  Are you looking to move the entire bike or just frame and fork?
 Give me a call to discuss if you wish. And the first inquirer doesn't come 
 through. 
 
 Sincerely,
 Ryan Hankinson
 (616)928-4226
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: looking for a 64cm Atlantis

2013-11-19 Thread Thomas Dusky
Hello

I am looking just to sell, frame and fork.
Interesting though I originally bought a 61 and found it too small. I found 
someone to trade with, I was surprised how much more I enjoyed the larger frame.
My Ideal size is 63—63.5
You can call if you want to chat about this


Good luck

Tom Dusky
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248-915-0222 cell
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On Nov 19, 2013, at 8:08 AM, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Popular thread... Third in line but my 64cm Atlantis is a touch large and I'd 
 consider a trade.  I'm in the DC area but get up towards Michigan for work 
 occasionally.
 
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[RBW] Re: What is the matter with you people?!?!

2013-11-19 Thread Bill Lindsay
Another fun fact.  If you bought this item on etsy:

KITTY!https://www.etsy.com/listing/79410192/duct-tape-wallet-made-better-with-gaffer?ref=shop_home_active

and checked the return address when you receive it in the mail, it would be 
my address.  ;-)

On Monday, November 18, 2013 11:40:14 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote:

 It's the Hello Kitty! duct tape of the guitar world. 

 It's not the Hello Kitty *guitar* of the guitar world, though. My boss 
 was marketing director of Sanrio during their big expansion, and was... 
 *instrumental* in getting Fender's Hello Kitty guitar produced. (This fun 
 fact brought to you by Anderson Valley IPA)

 Philip
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 On Monday, November 18, 2013 10:15:08 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote:

 This paintjob (I think it is Fender's Blue Flower 
 [paint-over-silver-foil?]) would be awesome as bartape:



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[RBW] Hetres vs. Pari-Moto, your thoughts?

2013-11-19 Thread RonaTD
I did two seasons on Pari Motos. The first year I did a solo 600 km ride that 
involved a large amount of gravel. I commuted regularly on them into the 
winter. The second year I did a super rando series on them. This year I have 
done 8 200km rides on Hetre extra legers. So, I think I have enough experience 
to qualify as a good data point.

I had only a couple of flats on the Pari Motos at the end of their life, which 
probably totaled a few thousand kilometers of urban and rural 
Wisconsin and Minnesota roads and trails. Performance wise, they are the 
fastest feeling tires I have ever ridden.

The Hetre ELs are so far flat free on mostly suburb and and rural Wisconsin 
roads. They feel almost as nice as the Pari Motos but the difference is 
noticeable. I will probably go back to Paris Motos for my rando bike.

Can't go wrong with either.

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Re: [RBW] Hetres vs. Pari-Moto, your thoughts?

2013-11-19 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Ted based on that review the pari-motos may be the next tire I rotate in to
service... Thanks!
On Nov 19, 2013 6:38 AM, RonaTD teddur...@gmail.com wrote:

 I did two seasons on Pari Motos. The first year I did a solo 600 km ride
 that involved a large amount of gravel. I commuted regularly on them into
 the winter. The second year I did a super rando series on them. This year I
 have done 8 200km rides on Hetre extra legers. So, I think I have enough
 experience to qualify as a good data point.

 I had only a couple of flats on the Pari Motos at the end of their life,
 which probably totaled a few thousand kilometers of urban and rural
 Wisconsin and Minnesota roads and trails. Performance wise, they are the
 fastest feeling tires I have ever ridden.

 The Hetre ELs are so far flat free on mostly suburb and and rural
 Wisconsin roads. They feel almost as nice as the Pari Motos but the
 difference is noticeable. I will probably go back to Paris Motos for my
 rando bike.

 Can't go wrong with either.

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Re: [RBW] Cable Management (or) More Twine

2013-11-19 Thread Christopher Chen
It's the big front rack. I'll actually redo it by waxing the twine next
time, to help the knots hold.
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 Looks good, it'll be nice to have the light centered too.  Twine'd and
 shellac'd? What rack is that with the front tab?

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Re: [RBW] Hetres vs. Pari-Moto, your thoughts?

2013-11-19 Thread Jim Bronson
Thanks.  Fast is what I want.  However I am pretty heavy at 6'7 and 265ish
so we'll see how well they work out in practice, starting Saturday morning
at O'dark thirty.  There is a 70% chance of thunderstorms on Friday so
there should be lots of loose rocks and so forth on the roads.  Good test
of the Pari-Motos.  Pretty raw day by Austin standards at 54/37 hi/lo.

There was also some mention of the Extra Leger Hetres.  I didn't bring them
up because they are in a whole other price category at $88.  The Pari-Motos
are $60, and those were a stretch considering the tires on the Riv
currently cost $26.  Tires costing $88 would threaten marital harmony.
On Nov 19, 2013 8:38 AM, RonaTD teddur...@gmail.com wrote:

 I did two seasons on Pari Motos. The first year I did a solo 600 km ride
 that involved a large amount of gravel. I commuted regularly on them into
 the winter. The second year I did a super rando series on them. This year I
 have done 8 200km rides on Hetre extra legers. So, I think I have enough
 experience to qualify as a good data point.

 I had only a couple of flats on the Pari Motos at the end of their life,
 which probably totaled a few thousand kilometers of urban and rural
 Wisconsin and Minnesota roads and trails. Performance wise, they are the
 fastest feeling tires I have ever ridden.

 The Hetre ELs are so far flat free on mostly suburb and and rural
 Wisconsin roads. They feel almost as nice as the Pari Motos but the
 difference is noticeable. I will probably go back to Paris Motos for my
 rando bike.

 Can't go wrong with either.

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RE: [RBW] Cable Management (or) More Twine

2013-11-19 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Apart from the time involved (which I think might not end up being too bad), is 
there any reason not to twine the length of the wire run?  I twined the 
taillight cable on the lng rear rack strut run on my Mystery Bike and it 
looked pretty good, but I didn't consider twining the rest of the cable run, at 
least on the front rack struts and (maybe) the fork - might look nice.  I 
shellacked the twine on the rear rack strut, and it looked good.

Lovely Bike has a nice blog entry on the many things you can twine on a bike, 
here: http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2009/08/adventures-with-twine.html

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It's the big front rack. I'll actually redo it by waxing the twine next time, 
to help the knots hold.
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Looks good, it'll be nice to have the light centered too.  Twine'd and 
shellac'd? What rack is that with the front tab?

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Re: [RBW] Re: The evolution of sizing and fit

2013-11-19 Thread jinxed
@ Patrick- I totally understand that and shop appropriately. But I was looking 
at the same garment from the same manufacturer. And it's funny how most things 
athletic fit are generally fashion clothes not intended for athleticism. 

I think I was mainly surprised to see an overly baggy piece from a company like 
Patagonia. My experience is that the outdoorsy / sports apparel suppliers are 
by default athletic fitting. 

It's funny, looking into actual physical measurements of the snap t by sellers 
on eBay, many of the current mediums are listed as 24-25 pit to pit. That's 
a 50 chest! I'm guessing my old one was right at 40. That a pretty drastic 
upsizing. 

Regardless, it's just an interesting look into how standards and perceptions of 
them are always in flux.

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[RBW] Re: New stuff on my Roadeo

2013-11-19 Thread Ryan
Agreed. I love the colour and the more modern components (saddle, Campy 
brifters) actually harmonize quite nicelyand of course, if they work 
great, that's great too. Very elegant and understated
On Friday, November 15, 2013 6:26:59 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote: 

 Alex 

 I like your bike very very much.  That front fender stay solution is 
 particularly cute.  

 On Friday, November 15, 2013 4:15:28 PM UTC-8, Alex Moll wrote: 

 I agree with you, Don, sounds like a great drivetrain for a great bike. 

 Many (most?) of my bikes have DT shifters, which I think are great. 
 However, when my custom Riv came available at one of my LBSs for a great 
 price, I couldn't resist it. It has a 3x10 Campy drivetrain - with carbon 
 Record brifters. Not what I would have chosen, but admit it all works 
 really slick. The Silver brakes clear the 32mm GB Cypres and the 45mm 
 Honjo's just fine.

 Cheers,


 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-R2rmabfW4NQ/Uoa5EEldaOI/ACE/s0TTwcQOvy4/s1600/DSC00940.JPG
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 On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 7:50:56 PM UTC-8, Don Compton wrote: 

 I totally ride and believe in  Rivendell bikes. But, I like the new 11sp 
 stuff. I am going with Campy 11sp. with a TA Zephyr 110 crank. 34 inner 
 ring with a 12-29 cassette that works for me. The shift lever along with my 
 Shimano brake release gives me some workability with wide tires. For me, 
 its a perfect combo.
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[RBW] Re: Cable Management (or) More Twine

2013-11-19 Thread Anton Tutter
Looks good, and I would choose twine over zip ties any day.  That said, 
I've also had good luck with adhesive glue, using it to attach small 
shrink-tube guides along a rack.

Anton


On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 2:39:09 AM UTC-5, Christopher Chen wrote:

 Set up my light tonight.

 Originally I was going to zip tie along the rack to the hub, but I didn't 
 have any small zip ties. I figured while I had the time and the twine I'd 
 teach myself the lost practice of cable lacing.

 It doesn't look too bad.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/10940146796/

 Not sure how this'll hold up, but hey.

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Re: [RBW] Cable Management (or) More Twine

2013-11-19 Thread Eric Norris
And if you really want to get carried away with the whole twiny thing:

gilligan.jpeg 

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On Nov 19, 2013, at 7:49 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J 
thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote:

 Apart from the time involved (which I think might not end up being too bad), 
 is there any reason not to twine the length of the wire run?  I twined the 
 taillight cable on the lng rear rack strut run on my Mystery Bike and it 
 looked pretty good, but I didn’t consider twining the rest of the cable run, 
 at least on the front rack struts and (maybe) the fork – might look nice.  I 
 shellacked the twine on the rear rack strut, and it looked good.
  
 Lovely Bike has a nice blog entry on the many things you can twine on a bike, 
 here: http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2009/08/adventures-with-twine.html
  
 From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chen
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 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [RBW] Cable Management (or) More Twine
  
 It's the big front rack. I'll actually redo it by waxing the twine next time, 
 to help the knots hold.
 
 On Nov 19, 2013 4:47 AM, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Looks good, it'll be nice to have the light centered too.  Twine'd and 
 shellac'd? What rack is that with the front tab?
 
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Re: [RBW] Cable Management (or) More Twine

2013-11-19 Thread Christopher Chen
Well, I was inspired by the practice of lacing cable runs in telephone
switching offices and in air/spacecraft. I had considered just twining the
entire run.

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/codeq/doctree/87394.pdf (pretty dry, warning!)


On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J 
thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote:

  Apart from the time involved (which I think might not end up being too
 bad), is there any reason not to twine the length of the wire run?  I
 twined the taillight cable on the lng rear rack strut run on my Mystery
 Bike and it looked pretty good, but I didn’t consider twining the rest of
 the cable run, at least on the front rack struts and (maybe) the fork –
 might look nice.  I shellacked the twine on the rear rack strut, and it
 looked good.



 Lovely Bike has a nice blog entry on the many things you can twine on a
 bike, here:
 http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2009/08/adventures-with-twine.html



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 It's the big front rack. I'll actually redo it by waxing the twine next
 time, to help the knots hold.

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 Looks good, it'll be nice to have the light centered too.  Twine'd and
 shellac'd? What rack is that with the front tab?

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Re: [RBW] New stuff on my Roadeo

2013-11-19 Thread Michael Hechmer
My confusion, in the picture it looked like a triple to me.  But, for the 
record.  Your 50/12 combination yields 112 gear inches while my  44/11 is 
108.  Your 34/29 is 32 G.I. while my 30/28 is 29.  Not a great deal of 
difference to be sure.  Vermont, where I live and ride, provides a lot of 
rolling terrain with rapid changes between plus and minus 10% with some 
14-16% thrown in for extra fun.   It's like skiing moguls, only works if 
you are very aggressive. I like to squeeze the most out of the bottom of my 
dbl., but don't need more than  108 to launch me off the top.  If I know I 
will have a long climb at 8% or more, I reach for a triple with a low gear 
around 26, and a kleenex for my tears.

Michael

On Saturday, November 16, 2013 9:03:08 PM UTC-5, Don Compton wrote:

 Michael,
 I am running a double, 50-34 rings, 12-29 cassette, but I can run a 
 Shimano 11-32 on a Shimano compatible hub, which I will use for tough hilly 
 rides and multi-day rides. The 11 cog is totally useless for me ( even the 
 12 is marginal ), but no one offers a 11 sp cogset with less that an 11 cog 
 on low range cassettes.
 Oh well?

 On Saturday, November 16, 2013 2:23:37 PM UTC-8, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 Beautiful bike, Don, and I too like the front fender set up.  I've gone 
 back and forth about front vs rear bags.  My question though is why you run 
 a triple with a 34 inner tooth?  I run my Ram with  a White VBC 44/30 and 
 Ultegra 9 spd 11-28.  It would seem that with an 11 spd you should have an 
 11 in back which would make a 48/11 a pretty big gear and no need for 3 
 rings to get to 34/29?  

 Michael


 On Friday, November 15, 2013 7:24:12 PM UTC-5, Don Compton wrote:

 Going 11 allows me to use Shimano/Sram compatible 11sp. hubs and 
 cassettes. With eleven, I am not stuck with only Campy cassettes or crappy 
 IRD cassettes.
 Leonard Zinn has been testing using Campy 11sp. shifters and derailleurs 
 with Sram and Shimano 11sp cassettes on non-Campy rear hubs. He didn't even 
 have to change or adjust anything.
 And, I like to have a 32 cog available.

 On Friday, November 15, 2013 3:09:26 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I liked the look of Mark's Roadeo in a recent Blug post. Does he use 11?

 Don: curious why you like 11 instead of 10? (Not trying to sneak a 
 criticism in under guise of a question.) I could usefully add #10 to the 
 Fargo's current 9, for another intermediate low gear, but I can't hack 10s 
 the way I can hack 9s and fewer (I mean, I don't like stock 
 configurations, 
 but I can't adapt 10s without too much hassle.)

 Photo, please?


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 I totally ride and believe in  Rivendell bikes. But, I like the new 
 11sp stuff. I am going with Campy 11sp. with a TA Zephyr 110 crank. 34 
 inner ring with a 12-29 cassette that works for me. The shift lever along 
 with my Shimano brake release gives me some workability with wide tires. 
 For me, its a perfect combo.
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[RBW] Re: Hetres vs. Pari-Moto, your thoughts?

2013-11-19 Thread Michael Hechmer
I'll pretty much second this review of the Paris Moto.  I have ridden them 
for about 1000 miles with one (fortunately slow) puncture. I am retired and 
so rarely ride into a city with broken glass, debris, or goat heads! but I 
do ride a lot of dirt and gravel roads. They feel very quick and fast, even 
compared to the Grand Bois Cerf Green on my Ram. I now have two 650b bikes 
but only one set of tires and am strongly leaning toward Heters for one of 
them.  Eventually I will convert my wife's bike to 650b and lean toward 
Rivs fatty bumpkins (name??) for her.  Looking back, I wish I had designed 
the tandem around 650b instead of 26.

Michael

On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:38:38 AM UTC-5, RonaTD wrote:

 I did two seasons on Pari Motos. The first year I did a solo 600 km ride 
 that involved a large amount of gravel. I commuted regularly on them into 
 the winter. The second year I did a super rando series on them. This year I 
 have done 8 200km rides on Hetre extra legers. So, I think I have enough 
 experience to qualify as a good data point.

 I had only a couple of flats on the Pari Motos at the end of their life, 
 which probably totaled a few thousand kilometers of urban and rural 
 Wisconsin and Minnesota roads and trails. Performance wise, they are the 
 fastest feeling tires I have ever ridden.

 The Hetre ELs are so far flat free on mostly suburb and and rural 
 Wisconsin roads. They feel almost as nice as the Pari Motos but the 
 difference is noticeable. I will probably go back to Paris Motos for my 
 rando bike.

 Can't go wrong with either.



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Re: [RBW] Re: The intriguing dilemma of having to ride...

2013-11-19 Thread Michael Hechmer
Wow, talk about a gift horse.  Think of it like a son day, no school! But I 
have to admit, as I age I get less and less motivated to ride in the cold. 
 It's not so much the temperature but the wind and wet that discourage me.

Deacon, I'd lov to meet you at the Riv rally but I'm guessing neither of us 
will make it.  I do plan to drive cross country next Spring, with a stop in 
NM ( Spiritual Directors International Conference in Santa Fe) and my son 
in the Bay area as the destination.  Maybe we could connect.

Michael

On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 7:47:26 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 That's what I attempted yesterday, Bob. It worked (as usual) until a bull 
 elk came over a nearby ridge, suddenly snorted very loudly (triggering my 
 adrenaline), hoofed the ground, and debated whether to charge or not 
 (triggering more adrenaline -- can I make that tree if he charges?). He 
 thankfully headed off into the woods. About 30 minutes after an adrenaline 
 rush comes the adrenaline crash, which is greatly magnified by my brain 
 injury. Very little brain energy and my body stops generating heat. This 
 was the first time in years Mother Nature has triggered my adrenaline. It's 
 a hard brain day as I recover today.

 The challenge is greater this time of year. I slowly made my way out 
 through the 1-2 of snow on the trail, but it gets dangerous even at 40˚F 
 when your body has stopped generating heat. It takes more adrenaline 
 kicking in just to make it out, which then magnifies the crash and recovery 
 time.

 Even more dark comedy, they did no work yesterday (but there is no mobile 
 reception on the Peak, so I didn't know till my wife picked me up at the 
 trail head). So the plan today is to wait and see if construction happens, 
 then go to a friends cabin if needed (where a number of things are more 
 challenging than home, but no construction), from which there is remote 
 paved road riding, but that carries a lot of risks (namely big truck or 
 motorcycle risk).

 I don't think I'll risk the remote single track again till spring, even 
 when I get good brain days.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Monday, November 18, 2013 8:29:13 PM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote:

 Can you stay in the high country just enough to maintain your peace of 
 mind?


 On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com wrote:

 so get after it - you got no choice - where's that smilie?  


 On Monday, November 18, 2013 8:35:42 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Fortunately, this one won’t make sense to most of you. That’s a good 
 thing. Pray it never really does.

 We learned that the construction on the flooded out bridge and dredging 
 of the late near our house will continue to Thanksgiving, so I have 8 
 business days in which I need to escape the sound from 8am-5pm brain and 
 weather permitting.

 I am blessed that today I get both a happy brain and good weather 
 (sunny, high in the 40’s on Pikes Peak). But it is an intriguing exercise 
 on attitude and countenance when one HAS to leave from home. I get to do 
 what I love doing, but HAVING to do it is something else entirely. Focus 
 on 
 the gifts, rather than dwelling on the pain — I get to put that to use in 
 a 
 whole other way!

 Then we’re trying to figure out January and February, when the parking 
 lot across the creek will be torn up and the flooded out drainage system 
 beneath replaced. Hm. Trying to figure out how to afford a two month 
 trip south (remote camping is the best option for me to avoid the noises 
 that blow up my brain).

 Two years ago, when I needed to escape town for noise (generally in the 
 summer for concerts at the park across the creek) I had no bike and did 
 not 
 ride one. So the Hunqapillar has opened up amazing gift and opportunity 
 these past 18 months.

 Thanks for letting me vent!

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hetres vs. Pari-Moto, your thoughts?

2013-11-19 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
The Pari-Motos are fine tires and I rode a 600k brevet on them with no
flats, while there were other riders with 3-4 flats, so I would say
that with reasonable riding they are not flat prone.

My only beef against them is that I am 150 lbs or so and after 600
miles the very fine tread was worn away (but not worn down) in the
middle for the rear tire (the front tire still looked new).

I've used Hetres on another bike and they are great, stable and fast
feeling tires, but can't compare both experiences since they are on
different bikes. I don't think you can go wrong with either, as long
as you don't mind the thin tread on the Pari-Moto. The Lierre might be
an alternative to the Pari-Moto with more tread life, but I don't have
experience with those.

Good luck!
Toshi

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Re: [RBW] Re: Once you go Riv can you ever go back?

2013-11-19 Thread Hugh Smitham
Mike,

Good to know others can ride that distance without padded shorts. No VP's I
went with the Grip Kings and I like them, my wife has the VP's on her Betty
and I can see why you like em.

Sorry to hear you Mom is battling an illness, hope she recovers quickly.


Best,


~Hugh


On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey Hugh, I've ton many 80+ mile days in MUSA and Chrome shorts with
 ExOfficio underwear with no issues. Oh, and the saddle is a B17. I think
 body type and position can have a lot to do with what works. It sounds like
 you've also gone to platform pedals? Hope you're using the VPs, I love mine.

 And Mike W., I'll likely put the Albas on my Hilsen. While I hate dealin
 with re-cabling the brakes and shifters, it's really not that hard. Finding
 the time between attending to my newborn daughter and my mom's illness is
 really the barrier. Hell, I haven't even sat down to look at the new Riv
 catalog. There's just not enough time.

 It sure was great to get out for a 4hr ride yesterday with everything
 that's been going on. After Feb I should be able to get out biweekly for a
 ride in the 4 to 5hr range along with shorter weekly rambles.

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[RBW] Acorn Mini Rando bag for sale.

2013-11-19 Thread Steven Frederick
I'm going in another direction for luggage on my Stag so I need to sell
this bag.  It's a ranger tan (more of a medium brown) Mini Rando bag by
Acorn.  Very lightly used--I've ridden with it on the bike in dry
conditions 5-6 times--if I put it on a shelf and called it new you would
have no reason to doubt it.  Pics of it on my bike here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/sets/72157637801990463/

They are no longer on Acorn's page, so may have been discontinued--it's
essentially a small rack pack (meant to fit the Nitto M-12 front rack) with
an easy open lid for ready access to your stuff. (opens from either sides
via snaps on leather straps, and is hinged at the back by an elastic over
hook arrangement)  It measures approx. 6.5 wide by 6/6.5 (slight taper
front to back) high by 11. long, so slightly bigger than the Little Loafer.
They were $107 plus shipping new--I'd like $100 shipped for mine, OBO.

Thanks, Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI

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Re: [RBW] Re: The intriguing dilemma of having to ride...

2013-11-19 Thread Deacon Patrick
Let me know, Michael. It'd be great to meet. I'll likely be close to home 
then, so the Pikes Peak region.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 11:39:23 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 Wow, talk about a gift horse.  Think of it like a son day, no school! But 
 I have to admit, as I age I get less and less motivated to ride in the 
 cold.  It's not so much the temperature but the wind and wet that 
 discourage me.

 Deacon, I'd lov to meet you at the Riv rally but I'm guessing neither of 
 us will make it.  I do plan to drive cross country next Spring, with a stop 
 in NM ( Spiritual Directors International Conference in Santa Fe) and my 
 son in the Bay area as the destination.  Maybe we could connect.

 Michael

 On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 7:47:26 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 That's what I attempted yesterday, Bob. It worked (as usual) until a bull 
 elk came over a nearby ridge, suddenly snorted very loudly (triggering my 
 adrenaline), hoofed the ground, and debated whether to charge or not 
 (triggering more adrenaline -- can I make that tree if he charges?). He 
 thankfully headed off into the woods. About 30 minutes after an adrenaline 
 rush comes the adrenaline crash, which is greatly magnified by my brain 
 injury. Very little brain energy and my body stops generating heat. This 
 was the first time in years Mother Nature has triggered my adrenaline. It's 
 a hard brain day as I recover today.

 The challenge is greater this time of year. I slowly made my way out 
 through the 1-2 of snow on the trail, but it gets dangerous even at 40˚F 
 when your body has stopped generating heat. It takes more adrenaline 
 kicking in just to make it out, which then magnifies the crash and recovery 
 time.

 Even more dark comedy, they did no work yesterday (but there is no mobile 
 reception on the Peak, so I didn't know till my wife picked me up at the 
 trail head). So the plan today is to wait and see if construction happens, 
 then go to a friends cabin if needed (where a number of things are more 
 challenging than home, but no construction), from which there is remote 
 paved road riding, but that carries a lot of risks (namely big truck or 
 motorcycle risk).

 I don't think I'll risk the remote single track again till spring, even 
 when I get good brain days.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Monday, November 18, 2013 8:29:13 PM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote:

 Can you stay in the high country just enough to maintain your peace of 
 mind?


 On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com wrote:

 so get after it - you got no choice - where's that smilie?  


 On Monday, November 18, 2013 8:35:42 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Fortunately, this one won’t make sense to most of you. That’s a good 
 thing. Pray it never really does.

 We learned that the construction on the flooded out bridge and 
 dredging of the late near our house will continue to Thanksgiving, so I 
 have 8 business days in which I need to escape the sound from 8am-5pm 
 brain 
 and weather permitting.

 I am blessed that today I get both a happy brain and good weather 
 (sunny, high in the 40’s on Pikes Peak). But it is an intriguing exercise 
 on attitude and countenance when one HAS to leave from home. I get to do 
 what I love doing, but HAVING to do it is something else entirely. Focus 
 on 
 the gifts, rather than dwelling on the pain — I get to put that to use in 
 a 
 whole other way!

 Then we’re trying to figure out January and February, when the parking 
 lot across the creek will be torn up and the flooded out drainage system 
 beneath replaced. Hm. Trying to figure out how to afford a two month 
 trip south (remote camping is the best option for me to avoid the noises 
 that blow up my brain).

 Two years ago, when I needed to escape town for noise (generally in 
 the summer for concerts at the park across the creek) I had no bike and 
 did 
 not ride one. So the Hunqapillar has opened up amazing gift and 
 opportunity 
 these past 18 months.

 Thanks for letting me vent!

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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[RBW] ETRTO

2013-11-19 Thread Kellie Stapleton
I have WTB Speed TCS Cross country rims; 26. The specs say rim size is 
559X19C. How do I convert this to know how small of tire, that is in width, 
will fit on this rim? Currently I have 1.75 tires but want to go smaller.

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[RBW] Re: ETRTO

2013-11-19 Thread Bill Lindsay
As far as I know, there is no 26 tire in existence that would be too 
narrow for that rim.  Use whatever you like!  

Generally you only need to worry when your nominal tire width is narrower 
than your rim width.  For example, the Velocity A23 road rim is a 23mm wide 
rim, recommended for 23mm tires.  Your rim is probably about 22 or 23mm in 
width as well.  So you will do fine with a 26x1 or even a little narrower. 
 What I see on the interwebs says that your rim is 19mm inner width, so I'm 
guessing at the outer width.  

On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 11:17:22 AM UTC-8, Kellie Stapleton wrote:

 I have WTB Speed TCS Cross country rims; 26. The specs say rim size is 
 559X19C. How do I convert this to know how small of tire, that is in width, 
 will fit on this rim? Currently I have 1.75 tires but want to go smaller.

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Re: [RBW] Hetres vs. Pari-Moto, your thoughts?

2013-11-19 Thread RonaTD
Well, for full disclosure, I'm 5'6 and 125lbs, so your mileage may vary!

On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:28:21 AM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote:

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[RBW] Re: Hetres vs. Pari-Moto, your thoughts?

2013-11-19 Thread Bill Lindsay
I think any rider who owns a bike that fits Hetres should have both a set 
of Pari Motos and a set of Hetres on-hand.  Swap them around as the mood 
strikes

On Monday, November 18, 2013 10:37:49 PM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote:

 Any thoughts?  I ended up with Pari Motos pretty much because I wanted 
 some other parts from Rivendell and they have free shipping on orders over 
 $150.  Rivendell carries the Pari Motos but not the Hetres.  So that 
 settled it.

 Plus I hate to say it but the Hetres seem heavy to me for what they are 
 supposed to be...a light yet fat supple tire with low rolling resistance.  

 Meanwhile the Compass site derides the Pari Motos as event tires.  Well 
 I do plan on using them for brevets so I guess that counts :)

 Anyone tried them both?  Opinions on one versus the other?  

 Or just unsubstantiated opinions?  Like those too :)


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[RBW] Re: Acorn Mini Rando bag for sale.

2013-11-19 Thread jinxed


 Endorsement on this bag. It's a PERFECT match for the Caldera Keg stove 
 kit from Ocean Air Cycles. You can fit the stove, collapsable pour over, 
 fuel bottle and containers for coffee and cream in the main compartment. 
 Then filters, spoon, fire steel, bandana, and sugar packets in the side 
 pockets. It's like a tailor made coffee outside kit. 

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RE: [RBW] Re: Hetres vs. Pari-Moto, your thoughts?

2013-11-19 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Wait - you can change tires whenever you want?

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Lindsay
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 2:33 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: Hetres vs. Pari-Moto, your thoughts?

I think any rider who owns a bike that fits Hetres should have both a set of 
Pari Motos and a set of Hetres on-hand.  Swap them around as the mood strikes

On Monday, November 18, 2013 10:37:49 PM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote:

Any thoughts?  I ended up with Pari Motos pretty much because I wanted some 
other parts from Rivendell and they have free shipping on orders over $150.  
Rivendell carries the Pari Motos but not the Hetres.  So that settled it.

Plus I hate to say it but the Hetres seem heavy to me for what they are 
supposed to be...a light yet fat supple tire with low rolling resistance.

Meanwhile the Compass site derides the Pari Motos as event tires.  Well I do 
plan on using them for brevets so I guess that counts :)

Anyone tried them both?  Opinions on one versus the other?

Or just unsubstantiated opinions?  Like those too :)
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[RBW] FS-Rivved out 85 Stumpjumper-22 Inches-$500

2013-11-19 Thread Peter Morgano
For sale is my recently acquired 1985 Stumpjumper, 22 inch, I think the
biggest one they made that year. I bought it off a list member in perfect
condition, minus the usual collection of scrapes and Rivved out the cockpit
with Cromo 55cm Bosco Bars, 130mm Technomic Deluxe stem. I changed out the
cables to all Jagwire Hyper. I also swapped out the old wheelset for a set
I had from a 1992MB2. So now its a 7 speed, just had to snug the 130mm
wheel into the 128mm dropouts. Of course with the Deerhead components
re-adjusting the shifters was no issue. Brake pads are like new, all wires
replaced. Slapped on some Fat Franks for around town riding but bike came
with brand newish Pacelas that I will throw in as well. I was thinking
about $500 plus shipping but please let me know if that is too high. I do
have the original bars and stem that can be swapped back for a price
reduction but I purpose built it for around town cruising and its a great
ride as it sits. Standover with the fat franks is about 84cm. I planned to
keep this forever as its a bike I wanted all my life but I am buying a
house soon and was told that some of the herd has to go. Since I have my
bombadil and MB2 there was a lot of crossover and I will be looking for a
go-fast bike this spring instead. email me with any questions, here is the
link to my Flikr set. Thanks all

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[RBW] Re: FS-Rivved out 85 Stumpjumper-22 Inches-$500

2013-11-19 Thread iamkeith
Nice bike!  FYI, though:  Though I may be wrong, I'm pretty sure that's not 
an '85.  The '85 had a lugged unicrown fork and steeper angles.  Yours 
looks like maybe a '84 stumpjumper sport???   Great bike, either way, and 
nicely set up.  (You had me excited for a bit, because I've been searching 
for years for an '85 in a bigger than 20 size.)

On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 1:18:32 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:

 For sale is my recently acquired 1985 Stumpjumper, 22 inch, I think the 
 biggest one they made that year. I bought it off a list member in perfect 
 condition, minus the usual collection of scrapes and Rivved out the cockpit 
 with Cromo 55cm Bosco Bars, 130mm Technomic Deluxe stem. I changed out the 
 cables to all Jagwire Hyper. I also swapped out the old wheelset for a set 
 I had from a 1992MB2. So now its a 7 speed, just had to snug the 130mm 
 wheel into the 128mm dropouts. Of course with the Deerhead components 
 re-adjusting the shifters was no issue. Brake pads are like new, all wires 
 replaced. Slapped on some Fat Franks for around town riding but bike came 
 with brand newish Pacelas that I will throw in as well. I was thinking 
 about $500 plus shipping but please let me know if that is too high. I do 
 have the original bars and stem that can be swapped back for a price 
 reduction but I purpose built it for around town cruising and its a great 
 ride as it sits. Standover with the fat franks is about 84cm. I planned to 
 keep this forever as its a bike I wanted all my life but I am buying a 
 house soon and was told that some of the herd has to go. Since I have my 
 bombadil and MB2 there was a lot of crossover and I will be looking for a 
 go-fast bike this spring instead. email me with any questions, here is the 
 link to my Flikr set. Thanks all
  
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/67889635@N06/ 
  
  


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Re: [RBW] Re: FS-Rivved out 85 Stumpjumper-22 Inches-$500

2013-11-19 Thread Peter Morgano
Ahh, looking at my old emails I think you are correct its actually an 1983,
sorry for the confusion. Thanks Keith!


On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 3:24 PM, iamkeith keithhar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nice bike!  FYI, though:  Though I may be wrong, I'm pretty sure that's
 not an '85.  The '85 had a lugged unicrown fork and steeper angles.  Yours
 looks like maybe a '84 stumpjumper sport???   Great bike, either way, and
 nicely set up.  (You had me excited for a bit, because I've been searching
 for years for an '85 in a bigger than 20 size.)


 On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 1:18:32 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:

 For sale is my recently acquired 1985 Stumpjumper, 22 inch, I think the
 biggest one they made that year. I bought it off a list member in perfect
 condition, minus the usual collection of scrapes and Rivved out the cockpit
 with Cromo 55cm Bosco Bars, 130mm Technomic Deluxe stem. I changed out the
 cables to all Jagwire Hyper. I also swapped out the old wheelset for a set
 I had from a 1992MB2. So now its a 7 speed, just had to snug the 130mm
 wheel into the 128mm dropouts. Of course with the Deerhead components
 re-adjusting the shifters was no issue. Brake pads are like new, all wires
 replaced. Slapped on some Fat Franks for around town riding but bike came
 with brand newish Pacelas that I will throw in as well. I was thinking
 about $500 plus shipping but please let me know if that is too high. I do
 have the original bars and stem that can be swapped back for a price
 reduction but I purpose built it for around town cruising and its a great
 ride as it sits. Standover with the fat franks is about 84cm. I planned to
 keep this forever as its a bike I wanted all my life but I am buying a
 house soon and was told that some of the herd has to go. Since I have my
 bombadil and MB2 there was a lot of crossover and I will be looking for a
 go-fast bike this spring instead. email me with any questions, here is the
 link to my Flikr set. Thanks all

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[RBW] Free bike frame!

2013-11-19 Thread Peter Morgano
53cm Raleigh competition frame. This has been in my basement for 5 years.
It came to me as a complete bike but with the fork squashed during
shipping, no accident damage. I was gonna build it as fixie for my friend
but we did a Peugeot PX instead so it was primered and hung in the
basement. Its 531, 53cm frame with Nervex lugs. Again, its free but I will
not ship it, cant be bothered, I am in Brooklyn, if you or someone you know
wants it come and get it. I will give you the fork too but please do not
use it. Nice part about frame is it was standard threading on the BB, not
the Raleigh strangeness. Had some dimples in the seat stays from a rack
that were filled before it was primered but weren't structural. Come and
get it!

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[RBW] Re: Acorn Mini Rando bag for sale.

2013-11-19 Thread Steven Frederick
And, bag is sold!


On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm going in another direction for luggage on my Stag so I need to sell
 this bag.  It's a ranger tan (more of a medium brown) Mini Rando bag by
 Acorn.  Very lightly used--I've ridden with it on the bike in dry
 conditions 5-6 times--if I put it on a shelf and called it new you would
 have no reason to doubt it.  Pics of it on my bike here:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/sets/72157637801990463/

 They are no longer on Acorn's page, so may have been discontinued--it's
 essentially a small rack pack (meant to fit the Nitto M-12 front rack) with
 an easy open lid for ready access to your stuff. (opens from either sides
 via snaps on leather straps, and is hinged at the back by an elastic over
 hook arrangement)  It measures approx. 6.5 wide by 6/6.5 (slight taper
 front to back) high by 11. long, so slightly bigger than the Little Loafer.
 They were $107 plus shipping new--I'd like $100 shipped for mine, OBO.

 Thanks, Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI


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[RBW] Re: Cable Management (or) More Twine

2013-11-19 Thread Scott G.
Before zip ties, Telco folk used  waxed lacing cord for cable management.
MaBell approved, and it doesn't leave sharp ends.

https://www.sourcetelsupply.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=32

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[RBW] Re: Cable Management (or) More Twine

2013-11-19 Thread Perry
The problem/advantage to the big ball of twine is that I end up using twine for 
many such applications. It's like I'm looking at all my bikes and thinking, 
where can I add some twine to this bad boy? Cable management is a no-brainer. 
Approve!

• Perry

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[RBW] Re: Imperial Flyer available yet? Its on Brooks site now. Conquest back now too.

2013-11-19 Thread Michael
Brooks says Flyer Imperial is now available in USA. It is taller than a regular 
Flyer.
FYI:
RBW says they have no plans at present to stock it.
Wallbike not listing it last I checked their site either.

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[RBW] Re: Cable Management (or) More Twine

2013-11-19 Thread Michael


 Cool idea.

Perfect way to secure cables on a Rivbike.
Definitely needs a shellac-attack, though.
 

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[RBW] WTB - 26 SS Rear Wheel

2013-11-19 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Looking for a 26in, 135mm spaced, rim brake rear wheel for a single speed 
setup.  Even a bare hub would be great.  I'd by a full wheel set if necessary 
and the price is right but I really only need the rear as I'll eventually go 
with a dyno front.

It's destined to live on a new-to-me red XO-3!  Hit me up here or off list.

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[RBW] Re: T or F about trading down a size on Bleriot

2013-11-19 Thread Michael


 Well, if everything works out, I'll just keep it the way it is. And I like 
 the fact that the bike shows a 4-fingered-fistful of seatpost on it.


Bosco's would definitely do the trick. They give you more rise and a 
handful more bar reaching rearward over the Albii.

I don't really wanna downsize anyway. Just thinking about it.
But I think Bosco's would be the way to go.
Then I could use a 10cm stem and look like a hip Walnut Creeker!



 

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[RBW] spoke tension question

2013-11-19 Thread BSWP
I just noticed that the spokes on the (six-speed) freewheel side of the 
rear wheel are all tighter than the spokes on the left... yet the wheel 
seems centered between the dropouts, and spins true. Does this seem right? 
Shouldn't spokes on both sides settle into some sense of balance? My 
tension-testing technique is crude - just pinching adjacent spokes where 
they cross, which tells me slacker on left side than on right.

- Andrew always something to fuss over, Berkeley

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Re: [RBW] spoke tension question

2013-11-19 Thread mikel66...@juno.com
right side spokes should be tighter than the left side spokes

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[RBW] Re: I like the MUSA Anorak

2013-11-19 Thread Michael


 Is this just like like that Mermot dri top people seem to like?



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Re: [RBW] WTB - 26 SS Rear Wheel

2013-11-19 Thread Dan McNamara
Strangely enough, I believe I have what you are looking for. It is a wheel
set though. Let me pull them out tonight and send you some pics.

The wheels were intended to go on my Lotus Pegasus single-speed conversion
project which I am declaring dead due to a knee injury.

Dan


-Marin


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 Looking for a 26in, 135mm spaced, rim brake rear wheel for a single speed
 setup.  Even a bare hub would be great.  I'd by a full wheel set if
 necessary and the price is right but I really only need the rear as I'll
 eventually go with a dyno front.

 It's destined to live on a new-to-me red XO-3!  Hit me up here or off list.

 Tony

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[RBW] spoke tension question

2013-11-19 Thread Bill Lindsay
yes Andrew, it's supposed to be like that.  i can explain the vector math to 
you off list if needed.  :)

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Re: [RBW] spoke tension question

2013-11-19 Thread Tim McNamara
On Nov 19, 2013, at 5:11 PM, BSWP ashtab...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just noticed that the spokes on the (six-speed) freewheel side of the rear 
 wheel are all tighter than the spokes on the left... yet the wheel seems 
 centered between the dropouts, and spins true. Does this seem right? 
 Shouldn't spokes on both sides settle into some sense of balance? My 
 tension-testing technique is crude - just pinching adjacent spokes where they 
 cross, which tells me slacker on left side than on right.
 
 - Andrew always something to fuss over, Berkeley

This is normal and correct.  Notice that the drive side spokes are flatter than 
the other side when you look at the wheel from the edge.  This is called dish 
and makes room for the freewheel or cassette.

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Re: [RBW] Re: I like the MUSA Anorak

2013-11-19 Thread Joe Broach
Michael, if Mermot dri top==Marmot Dri Clime, I'd say no. The Marmot has
a very thin fuzzy insulation layer hanging inside the nylon shell. The
Anorak, I think, is just the shell. The Marmot is light but somewhat bulky
and definitely not waterproof. I've used the Marmot for years. Both seem
nifty.

Best,
joe broach
portland, or


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 Is this just like like that Mermot dri top people seem to like?

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[RBW] Re: I like the MUSA Anorak

2013-11-19 Thread Coconutbill
I'll be testing the hi-viz out on my trip from LA-PDX next week!

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[RBW] Re: What is the matter with you people?!?!

2013-11-19 Thread Coconutbill


 What's next for Newbaum's? Jimi Hendrix black-light purple? 


-Let's hope so! 

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[RBW] Bike overnight near Ventura California

2013-11-19 Thread Curtis McKenzie
I will be in Ventura next week for about 36 hours. Will be taking the bike
with plans to camp somewhere.  Any ideas would be most helpful.  Thanks.

Ride safe,

Curtis

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Re: [RBW] spoke tension question

2013-11-19 Thread BSWP
Thanks, fellow riders. I was comparing to my single-speed QuickBeam... ;-)

And here is a nice note from Sheldon Brown:

Don't worry about the left-side tension on rear wheels. If the freewheel 
side is correctly tensioned, 
and the wheel is correctly dished, the left side will be quite a bit 
looser. You should still check the left 
side for uniformity of tension.

http://sheldonbrown.com/wheelbuild.html

- Andrew everything is fine now, Berkeley

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Re: [RBW] what have you carried on your Rivendell?

2013-11-19 Thread James Warren

A bunch of oil for deep-frying a turkey. Back of Atlantis. Very heavy. It was 
Thanksgiving.

They were non-Lesnik wheels though. I broke a spoke later that day.


On Nov 19, 2013, at 5:39 PM, dougP wrote:

 Photo sent to me by a fellow Atlantis owner  obviously bird lover.  This is 
 40 lbs of birdseed and did not upset the bike's handling.  While I didn't 
 weigh the load nor take photos, I've had a stack of canvas tote bags on my 
 Atlantis that was large enough to make getting on the bike difficult and most 
 definitely upset the handling.
 
 Nice tidy pannier loads aside, what interesting things have people carried on 
 their Rivendells?  
 
 dougP
 
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[RBW] Re: Bike overnight near Ventura California

2013-11-19 Thread Mike Schiller
Curtis, to the north there are hiker-biker sites at Carpinteria, El Capitan 
and Refugio State Beaches.  

and for a nice sunset moment, Island Brewing has a tasting room adjacent to 
the  Carpinteria Campground off Lindley.

Inland you could go up past Ojai to Wheeler Gorge.

~mike

On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 5:15:24 PM UTC-8, Curtis wrote:

 I will be in Ventura next week for about 36 hours. Will be taking the bike 
 with plans to camp somewhere.  Any ideas would be most helpful.  Thanks.

 Ride safe,

 Curtis



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[RBW] Re: what have you carried on your Rivendell?

2013-11-19 Thread Deacon Patrick
My 4 year old. She does effect handling when she wiggles though, so that 
took some training.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 6:39:26 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 Photo sent to me by a fellow Atlantis owner  obviously bird lover.  This 
 is 40 lbs of birdseed and did not upset the bike's handling.  While I 
 didn't weigh the load nor take photos, I've had a stack of canvas tote bags 
 on my Atlantis that was large enough to make getting on the bike difficult 
 and most definitely upset the handling.

 Nice tidy pannier loads aside, what interesting things have people carried 
 on their Rivendells?  

 dougP


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[RBW] Re: what have you carried on your Rivendell?

2013-11-19 Thread Deacon Patrick
Oh, and the sled to go with the kid.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GzG9BqVPORI/UowWhsrMQJI/AdM/vjKsgroGZb0/s1600/Screen+Shot+2013-11-19+at+6.53.22+PM.png


On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 6:39:26 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 Photo sent to me by a fellow Atlantis owner  obviously bird lover.  This 
 is 40 lbs of birdseed and did not upset the bike's handling.  While I 
 didn't weigh the load nor take photos, I've had a stack of canvas tote bags 
 on my Atlantis that was large enough to make getting on the bike difficult 
 and most definitely upset the handling.

 Nice tidy pannier loads aside, what interesting things have people carried 
 on their Rivendells?  

 dougP


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Re: [RBW] Re: The intriguing dilemma of having to ride...

2013-11-19 Thread Robert Barr
I assumed that was what you were doing - sorry to read that it didn't work.
Hopefully you will find peace at home. Be well


On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 Let me know, Michael. It'd be great to meet. I'll likely be close to home
 then, so the Pikes Peak region.

 With abandon,
 Patrick


 On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 11:39:23 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 Wow, talk about a gift horse.  Think of it like a son day, no school! But
 I have to admit, as I age I get less and less motivated to ride in the
 cold.  It's not so much the temperature but the wind and wet that
 discourage me.

 Deacon, I'd lov to meet you at the Riv rally but I'm guessing neither of
 us will make it.  I do plan to drive cross country next Spring, with a stop
 in NM ( Spiritual Directors International Conference in Santa Fe) and my
 son in the Bay area as the destination.  Maybe we could connect.

 Michael

 On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 7:47:26 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 That's what I attempted yesterday, Bob. It worked (as usual) until a
 bull elk came over a nearby ridge, suddenly snorted very loudly (triggering
 my adrenaline), hoofed the ground, and debated whether to charge or not
 (triggering more adrenaline -- can I make that tree if he charges?). He
 thankfully headed off into the woods. About 30 minutes after an adrenaline
 rush comes the adrenaline crash, which is greatly magnified by my brain
 injury. Very little brain energy and my body stops generating heat. This
 was the first time in years Mother Nature has triggered my adrenaline. It's
 a hard brain day as I recover today.

 The challenge is greater this time of year. I slowly made my way out
 through the 1-2 of snow on the trail, but it gets dangerous even at 40˚F
 when your body has stopped generating heat. It takes more adrenaline
 kicking in just to make it out, which then magnifies the crash and recovery
 time.

 Even more dark comedy, they did no work yesterday (but there is no
 mobile reception on the Peak, so I didn't know till my wife picked me up at
 the trail head). So the plan today is to wait and see if construction
 happens, then go to a friends cabin if needed (where a number of things are
 more challenging than home, but no construction), from which there is
 remote paved road riding, but that carries a lot of risks (namely big truck
 or motorcycle risk).

 I don't think I'll risk the remote single track again till spring, even
 when I get good brain days.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Monday, November 18, 2013 8:29:13 PM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote:

 Can you stay in the high country just enough to maintain your peace of
 mind?


 On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com wrote:

 so get after it - you got no choice - where's that smilie?


 On Monday, November 18, 2013 8:35:42 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Fortunately, this one won’t make sense to most of you. That’s a good
 thing. Pray it never really does.

 We learned that the construction on the flooded out bridge and
 dredging of the late near our house will continue to Thanksgiving, so I
 have 8 business days in which I need to escape the sound from 8am-5pm 
 brain
 and weather permitting.

 I am blessed that today I get both a happy brain and good weather
 (sunny, high in the 40’s on Pikes Peak). But it is an intriguing exercise
 on attitude and countenance when one HAS to leave from home. I get to do
 what I love doing, but HAVING to do it is something else entirely. Focus 
 on
 the gifts, rather than dwelling on the pain — I get to put that to use 
 in a
 whole other way!

 Then we’re trying to figure out January and February, when the
 parking lot across the creek will be torn up and the flooded out drainage
 system beneath replaced. Hm. Trying to figure out how to afford a two
 month trip south (remote camping is the best option for me to avoid the
 noises that blow up my brain).

 Two years ago, when I needed to escape town for noise (generally in
 the summer for concerts at the park across the creek) I had no bike and 
 did
 not ride one. So the Hunqapillar has opened up amazing gift and 
 opportunity
 these past 18 months.

 Thanks for letting me vent!

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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[RBW] Re: WTB - 26 SS Rear Wheel

2013-11-19 Thread Dave Johnston
1993 X0-3 rear spacing is 130mm or maybe 128mm as stock.

Have you considered just putting a BMX cog and a bunch of spacers on the 
stock cassette wheel?

-Dave 

On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 6:01:55 PM UTC-5, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Looking for a 26in, 135mm spaced, rim brake rear wheel for a single speed 
 setup.  Even a bare hub would be great.  I'd by a full wheel set if 
 necessary and the price is right but I really only need the rear as I'll 
 eventually go with a dyno front.

 It's destined to live on a new-to-me red XO-3!  Hit me up here or off list.

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[RBW] Re: WTB - 26 SS Rear Wheel

2013-11-19 Thread Dave Johnston
Yup 128mm according to the catalog, although I have a 130mm in mine. 135 
was always a bear for me to put in, although I rode one for years.





https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-AaafvI1LzFM/UowhFAvNmFI/ACk/Z1QnR_Ermpw/s1600/XO3_original+build.JPG
 1993 X0-3 rear spacing is 130mm or maybe 128mm as stock.

 Have you considered just putting a BMX cog and a bunch of spacers on the 
 stock cassette wheel?

 -Dave 



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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB - 26 SS Rear Wheel

2013-11-19 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Dave,  your absolutely right. According to the catalog it's 128mm.  I never
checked, just assumed the 26in wheel meant mtb spacing as it does on the
26in Atlanti' ... Thanks!

I'm out of town right now but I'll check Friday when I get home.  Sorry to
spin everyone up, not enough attention to detail!!!

Tony
 On Nov 19, 2013 7:31 PM, Dave Johnston jdi...@gmail.com wrote:

 1993 X0-3 rear spacing is 130mm or maybe 128mm as stock.

 Have you considered just putting a BMX cog and a bunch of spacers on the
 stock cassette wheel?

 -Dave

 On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 6:01:55 PM UTC-5, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Looking for a 26in, 135mm spaced, rim brake rear wheel for a single speed
 setup.  Even a bare hub would be great.  I'd by a full wheel set if
 necessary and the price is right but I really only need the rear as I'll
 eventually go with a dyno front.

 It's destined to live on a new-to-me red XO-3!  Hit me up here or off
 list.

 Tony

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[RBW] Re: Shifting

2013-11-19 Thread Dave Johnston
I have no experience with Brifters on any bike, but I know its been done on 
Mustache bars before. I imagine the Shimano with two lever that both move 
inwards (or down on a M-bar) would work best. the thumb switch on some 
campy units might be hard to access.

-Dave J

On Sunday, November 17, 2013 2:26:28 PM UTC-5, islaysteve wrote:

 Dave, this is exactly the setup that I was going to suggest, as it is 
 something I'd like to try on my Bleriot.  I have 8spd Shimano brifters and 
 would like to try them with one of the bars that you mention.  Seems like 
 they would work; at least it's worth a try before investing in new shifters 
 and brake levers.  Do you have any personal experience with this setup? 
  Steve

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Re: [RBW] Cable Management (or) More Twine

2013-11-19 Thread Tom Virgil


On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 8:40:08 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:

 And if you really want to get carried away with the whole twiny thing:

 gilligan.jpeghttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HcweEx2IhyI/ULy_MpPcskI/kKc/nSWxUxqlMi0/s1600/gilligan.jpeg
  


Forget Gilligan.  I have had these, um,  thoughts about Mary Ann Summers 
ever since I first saw the series.  Ginger, not so much.


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 Email: campyo...@me.com javascript:
 Web: www.campyonly.com
 Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
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 Flickr: www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy 

 On Nov 19, 2013, at 7:49 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J 
 thomas.a...@skadden.com javascript: wrote:

 Apart from the time involved (which I think might not end up being too 
 bad), is there any reason not to twine the length of the wire run?  I 
 twined the taillight cable on the lng rear rack strut run on my Mystery 
 Bike and it looked pretty good, but I didn’t consider twining the rest of 
 the cable run, at least on the front rack struts and (maybe) the fork – 
 might look nice.  I shellacked the twine on the rear rack strut, and it 
 looked good.
  
 Lovely Bike has a nice blog entry on the many things you can twine on a 
 bike, here: 
 http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2009/08/adventures-with-twine.html
  
 *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: [
 mailto:rbw-...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *Christopher 
 Chen
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 It's the big front rack. I'll actually redo it by waxing the twine next 
 time, to help the knots hold.
 On Nov 19, 2013 4:47 AM, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.com javascript: 
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 Looks good, it'll be nice to have the light centered too.  Twine'd and 
 shellac'd? What rack is that with the front tab?

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[RBW] Re: Bike overnight near Ventura California

2013-11-19 Thread dougP
How close to Ventura should the campsite be?  

dougP

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 I will be in Ventura next week for about 36 hours. Will be taking the bike 
 with plans to camp somewhere.  Any ideas would be most helpful.  Thanks.

 Ride safe,

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[RBW] Miesha's grip length

2013-11-19 Thread ted
Anybody know if the length of Miesha's cork grips has changed over the 
years?

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[RBW] Re: The intriguing dilemma of having to ride...

2013-11-19 Thread Michael


 Patrick,

 I know what I am about to write is probably very stupid, and I am sorry to 
insult you by even mentioning this suggestion. I know that you are 
suffering from a profound brain injury that I am sure doesn't respond 
to lightweight treatments.
So please forgive me to even think of mentioning this very remote, 
shot-in-the-dark, minimizing, massive oversimplification of a treatment.
 
I am thinking you have already tried this to no avail, or it may aggravate 
the vertigo, but have really heavy duty earplugs ever helped at all?
I wonder if the 30dB ones could take the edge off of sound in a way that 
may help things be more manageable. Of course the vibrations may play a 
role in disorienting the brain, too. And I don't know what effect the air 
pocket earplugs create in the ear canal would have on the vertigo, if any, 
since your vertigo is from the brain, and not ear structures I think.
 
 Just thought I would throw it out there in the remotest possibility it 
could actually help. We all want to see your quality of life improve by 
leaps and bounds.
 

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[RBW] Re: Bike overnight near Ventura California

2013-11-19 Thread Curtis McKenzie
I will need to be in Ventura by 1 pm the following day.

Mike, I like the beer and sunset theme.

On Tuesday, November 19, 2013, dougP wrote:

 How close to Ventura should the campsite be?

 dougP

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 I will be in Ventura next week for about 36 hours. Will be taking the
 bike with plans to camp somewhere.  Any ideas would be most helpful.
  Thanks.

 Ride safe,

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[RBW] Why bicycles do not fall

2013-11-19 Thread Curtis McKenzie
Interesting talk on the physics of bicycles.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y4mbT3ozcA

Curtis

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[RBW] Re: I like the MUSA Anorak

2013-11-19 Thread Michael
Thanks joe b.! That's what I was wondering.

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[RBW] Re: I like the MUSA Anorak

2013-11-19 Thread sameness
Please report back, hopefully (for my sake) with some words on how the 
seams and stitching are finished? 

Maybe the pics on the Riv site were of samples or prototypes, but the one 
in (Jenny's?) hand and the one next to the Coke show lots of frays and 
thread ends.

From a potential durability standpoint, that's the only thing keeping me 
from pulling the trigger.

Thanks in advance.

Jeff Hagedorn
Warragul, VIC Australia 

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Re: [RBW] what have you carried on your Rivendell?

2013-11-19 Thread Patrick Moore
I've passed 40 lb (42?) load+panniers on the Ram with Fly -- groceries in
the new Ortlieb Rollers.

Max, at least max recorded, was 45 lb total on the lightweight, 1973
Motobecane, also in panniers, also on Fly. The Ram is as good as the Mot at
rear loads and handles better unladen (for me, anyway). I've carried ~37 lb
on the '03 Curt (custom rack) but the Curt doesn't handle loads as well and
is definitely happier cutting it off at 30.

What sort of rack is that bag draped over? A stiff rack is of course the
key for stable loading.




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 Photo sent to me by a fellow Atlantis owner  obviously bird lover.  This
 is 40 lbs of birdseed and did not upset the bike's handling.  While I
 didn't weigh the load nor take photos, I've had a stack of canvas tote bags
 on my Atlantis that was large enough to make getting on the bike difficult
 and most definitely upset the handling.

 Nice tidy pannier loads aside, what interesting things have people carried
 on their Rivendells?

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[RBW] Re: Bike overnight near Ventura California

2013-11-19 Thread dougP
If you need to be back by 1, then El Capitan  Refugio are a bit far.  
Refugio is 60 miles  El Cap only a bit closer.  Carpinteria is a great 
location, the state park is right on the beach, around 20 miles north.  Not 
familiar with Wheeler Gorge but Ojai is only about 15 miles inland from 
Ventura.  

dougP

On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 7:47:40 PM UTC-8, Curtis wrote:

 I will need to be in Ventura by 1 pm the following day.

 Mike, I like the beer and sunset theme. 

 On Tuesday, November 19, 2013, dougP wrote:

 How close to Ventura should the campsite be?  

 dougP

 On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 5:15:24 PM UTC-8, Curtis wrote:

 I will be in Ventura next week for about 36 hours. Will be taking the 
 bike with plans to camp somewhere.  Any ideas would be most helpful. 
  Thanks.

 Ride safe,

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[RBW] Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?

2013-11-19 Thread Michael
Thought hearing from you all would make an interesting thread.
I have been enjoying my Sam for a long time now.
I call these RBW ideas because that is where I first heard about them 
(thought I know they have been around for years, just not embraced so much 
these days). I was an alu/composite race bike kinda rider until I started 
to fear carbon failures and wanted to look into an all metal bike.
 
I'll start:
 
*RBW ideas that worked for me:*
*1. Wider tires.* This has made a huge diff for my quality of riding. I 
used to own a typical race bike with 700 x 25, 120psi tires.
It was great to ride, but hard to handle as it banged and bounced and tires 
got yanked around on gravelly, busted up shoulders. Not to mention the fear 
of getting the narrow tires caught in longitudinal road cracks.
Got my Rivendell bikes and have used 32mm-40mm ~55psi tires on them and 
what a difference.
No more bike bouncing. Slight rumbling and I am through the rough road 
parts. Tires stay on their straight course through the bad patches and I 
feel so much safer. Cush to boot. Very stable handling.
I cannot see myself ever going back to anything narrower than 32mm wide 
tires. They seem dangerous to me now.
*2. Fenders.* I never woulda dreamed of putting these on a bike in the 
past. But now I don't see riding without them making any sense to me. It is 
just good to be prepared and not have to worry about grunging up the bike 
with the street scum. They look great to boot, and are standard equipment 
on my bikes. I love the ultra coverage of the longboards.
*3. Leather saddles.* No more butt pain. yay! What a smooth surface to sit 
on. I did have a little break in for a coupla weeks, but another dab o' 
proofhide broke her in and now its great.
*4. Steel bike/lugs/cream headtubes/metal head badges.* Such a stable ride, 
beautiful to look at, and no worries about did I tension that bolt 1nM too 
far?. Feels good to not have to wonder about failures. The lugs and paint 
jobs are intoxicating.
*5. Smaller chainrings/bigger cassettes/Triples.* Healthiest pedaling I 
have ever felt in my legs. The Sugino toothcounts work great for my neck of 
the woods. I would never want to go back to 39-52 or 30-40-54 cranks again. 
And, I have discovered that compact cranksets aren't for me. I love triples.
*6. Big Saddle bags.* I love that I can carry lunch, repair kits/tools and 
a jacket in my Carradice, etc. So convenient. No more wondering how will I 
fit everything into my small nylon wedge.
*7. Cotton tape/twine and shellac.* I balked at the idea as just taking 
things too far. But when my Sam arrived with it, it just looked so 
beautiful and natural and much better than electrical tape. Its fun to do, 
too!
*8. Bar end shifters.* At first I thought that it was ridiculous not to 
have the convenience of brifters on a bike. But when I got my first Rivbike 
with bar ends, it was love at first shift. Just makes it so much more fun 
to play with those things than brifting. I think it also encourages your 
hands to move around more on the bars and I think that helps keep the 
numbness at bay. A quiet friction shift is a very satisfying sensation. And 
trimming is fun, too.
*9. Platform pedals/ditching the click-ins.* I started using MKS Touring 
pedals and cannot see myself ever going back to click ins. It is so nice to 
be able to move the foot around and to just hop off the bike and walk 
normally and not feel weird in public duck walking. Starting up at green 
lights, all I have to do is just stand on the pedal and go. I don't have to 
fumble across the intersection anymore to click in. And think of all that 
cash I save by not having to buy expensive click in shoes and cleats/pedals.
*10. Kickstands.* Having previously viewed these as bike anchors, I started 
realizing it just makes things sooo much easier when parking the bike 
in the garage, hopping off the bike for breaks/taking pictures, and they 
are just fun to install and look at. I love the rat-at-at-at-at sound the 
Pletscher makes when it is flipped.
*11. 650b.* At first I thought: why?... And then: Aw, man! 
Now I am forced into getting these smaller wheels if I want a Rivendell. 
Why is this guy messing around with these bikes like this?. But the 
clearance allows me to enjoy the convenience of fenders and safety and cush 
of wide tires.
*12. Ponchos.* Air circulates. Less sweating under cover.
*13. Wool.* In summer, any material will be drenched and sticking to my 
skin. But come seasons of 75 degrees and less, the wool dries out so 
quickly that things don't stick anymore. A Nice feeling to ride off after a 
break - dry and warm, rather than clammy and chilled by the breeze.
*14. Flat ramps drop bar setups.* Very comfy. Stem extension in line with 
bar ramps and brake levers is just pretty to look at, too.
 
*What doesn't work for me:*
*1. High bars.* While riding drops up high on a Technomic is tops, my body 
likes drop bars below saddle, or else sitting 

Re: [RBW] Re: Once you go Riv can you ever go back?

2013-11-19 Thread Mike
Hugh, the Grip Kings with spikes work pretty well. But if you find yourself 
needing more gription when riding off-road, go with the VPs. I'm glad 
you're experiencing your Hilsen from platform pedals. My very first ride on 
my Hilsen, home from the bike shop, was on Grip Kings and it felt so odd. I 
quickly swapped them out for SPDs and didn't ride it with platforms until 
like 2 years later. Now they really seem like the best choice for that 
bike. I wonder if I'll feel the same way about the Alba bars when I finally 
try them on the Hilsen.

Thanks for the well wishes with my mom, sadly my mom has stage IV lung 
cancer and is on hospice. She's doing well today. We're just taking it a 
day at a time. 

--mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: Once you go Riv can you ever go back?

2013-11-19 Thread Hugh Smitham
Mike,

Sorry to hear that. At that point you just cherish each day...one of our
neighbors has cancer which started as breast cancer and has now moved to
her bones, she just keeps doing radiation and knows it's the kind that will
never go away. I brought she and her husband some food today. Very nice
people. I'll keep you and your Mom in my thoughts.


Best,


~Hugh


On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hugh, the Grip Kings with spikes work pretty well. But if you find
 yourself needing more gription when riding off-road, go with the VPs. I'm
 glad you're experiencing your Hilsen from platform pedals. My very first
 ride on my Hilsen, home from the bike shop, was on Grip Kings and it felt
 so odd. I quickly swapped them out for SPDs and didn't ride it with
 platforms until like 2 years later. Now they really seem like the best
 choice for that bike. I wonder if I'll feel the same way about the Alba
 bars when I finally try them on the Hilsen.

 Thanks for the well wishes with my mom, sadly my mom has stage IV lung
 cancer and is on hospice. She's doing well today. We're just taking it a
 day at a time.

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Re: [RBW] Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?

2013-11-19 Thread cyclotourist
A GREAT list of observations, Mike! I think I agree with all of them
to one degree or another. I have to move high bars to the list of
likes as well, especially if you consider that seat height is high
by the industry standard!

I would add:
Wald baskets - man those things are great!
Zip ties - great attachment technique, especially for above mentioned baskets!

On 11/19/13, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thought hearing from you all would make an interesting thread.
 I have been enjoying my Sam for a long time now.
 I call these RBW ideas because that is where I first heard about them
 (thought I know they have been around for years, just not embraced so much
 these days). I was an alu/composite race bike kinda rider until I started
 to fear carbon failures and wanted to look into an all metal bike.

 I'll start:

 *RBW ideas that worked for me:*
 *1. Wider tires.* This has made a huge diff for my quality of riding. I
 used to own a typical race bike with 700 x 25, 120psi tires.
 It was great to ride, but hard to handle as it banged and bounced and tires

 got yanked around on gravelly, busted up shoulders. Not to mention the fear

 of getting the narrow tires caught in longitudinal road cracks.
 Got my Rivendell bikes and have used 32mm-40mm ~55psi tires on them and
 what a difference.
 No more bike bouncing. Slight rumbling and I am through the rough road
 parts. Tires stay on their straight course through the bad patches and I
 feel so much safer. Cush to boot. Very stable handling.
 I cannot see myself ever going back to anything narrower than 32mm wide
 tires. They seem dangerous to me now.
 *2. Fenders.* I never woulda dreamed of putting these on a bike in the
 past. But now I don't see riding without them making any sense to me. It is

 just good to be prepared and not have to worry about grunging up the bike
 with the street scum. They look great to boot, and are standard equipment
 on my bikes. I love the ultra coverage of the longboards.
 *3. Leather saddles.* No more butt pain. yay! What a smooth surface to sit
 on. I did have a little break in for a coupla weeks, but another dab o'
 proofhide broke her in and now its great.
 *4. Steel bike/lugs/cream headtubes/metal head badges.* Such a stable ride,

 beautiful to look at, and no worries about did I tension that bolt 1nM too

 far?. Feels good to not have to wonder about failures. The lugs and paint
 jobs are intoxicating.
 *5. Smaller chainrings/bigger cassettes/Triples.* Healthiest pedaling I
 have ever felt in my legs. The Sugino toothcounts work great for my neck of

 the woods. I would never want to go back to 39-52 or 30-40-54 cranks again.

 And, I have discovered that compact cranksets aren't for me. I love
 triples.
 *6. Big Saddle bags.* I love that I can carry lunch, repair kits/tools and
 a jacket in my Carradice, etc. So convenient. No more wondering how will I
 fit everything into my small nylon wedge.
 *7. Cotton tape/twine and shellac.* I balked at the idea as just taking
 things too far. But when my Sam arrived with it, it just looked so
 beautiful and natural and much better than electrical tape. Its fun to do,
 too!
 *8. Bar end shifters.* At first I thought that it was ridiculous not to
 have the convenience of brifters on a bike. But when I got my first Rivbike

 with bar ends, it was love at first shift. Just makes it so much more fun
 to play with those things than brifting. I think it also encourages your
 hands to move around more on the bars and I think that helps keep the
 numbness at bay. A quiet friction shift is a very satisfying sensation. And

 trimming is fun, too.
 *9. Platform pedals/ditching the click-ins.* I started using MKS Touring
 pedals and cannot see myself ever going back to click ins. It is so nice to

 be able to move the foot around and to just hop off the bike and walk
 normally and not feel weird in public duck walking. Starting up at green
 lights, all I have to do is just stand on the pedal and go. I don't have to

 fumble across the intersection anymore to click in. And think of all that
 cash I save by not having to buy expensive click in shoes and
 cleats/pedals.
 *10. Kickstands.* Having previously viewed these as bike anchors, I started

 realizing it just makes things sooo much easier when parking the bike
 in the garage, hopping off the bike for breaks/taking pictures, and they
 are just fun to install and look at. I love the rat-at-at-at-at sound the
 Pletscher makes when it is flipped.
 *11. 650b.* At first I thought: why?... And then: Aw, man!
 Now I am forced into getting these smaller wheels if I want a Rivendell.
 Why is this guy messing around with these bikes like this?. But the
 clearance allows me to enjoy the convenience of fenders and safety and cush

 of wide tires.
 *12. Ponchos.* Air circulates. Less sweating under cover.
 *13. Wool.* In summer, any material will be drenched and sticking to my
 skin. But come seasons of 75 degrees and less, the 

Re: [RBW] what have you carried on your Rivendell?

2013-11-19 Thread cyclotourist
Just the essentials: http://www.flickr.com/photos/64942209@N00/3587798278

On 11/19/13, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've passed 40 lb (42?) load+panniers on the Ram with Fly -- groceries in
 the new Ortlieb Rollers.

 Max, at least max recorded, was 45 lb total on the lightweight, 1973
 Motobecane, also in panniers, also on Fly. The Ram is as good as the Mot at
 rear loads and handles better unladen (for me, anyway). I've carried ~37 lb
 on the '03 Curt (custom rack) but the Curt doesn't handle loads as well and
 is definitely happier cutting it off at 30.

 What sort of rack is that bag draped over? A stiff rack is of course the
 key for stable loading.




 On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 6:39 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

 Photo sent to me by a fellow Atlantis owner  obviously bird lover.  This
 is 40 lbs of birdseed and did not upset the bike's handling.  While I
 didn't weigh the load nor take photos, I've had a stack of canvas tote
 bags
 on my Atlantis that was large enough to make getting on the bike
 difficult
 and most definitely upset the handling.

 Nice tidy pannier loads aside, what interesting things have people
 carried
 on their Rivendells?

 dougP

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Re: [RBW] Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?

2013-11-19 Thread Peter Morgano
Leather Saddles were a game changer for me after riding plastic for so many
years. Great list, I like the bolt upright position and agree the
in-between can be uncomfortable, luckily my lower back can only do bolt
upright. :-)
On Nov 20, 2013 12:34 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

 A GREAT list of observations, Mike! I think I agree with all of them
 to one degree or another. I have to move high bars to the list of
 likes as well, especially if you consider that seat height is high
 by the industry standard!

 I would add:
 Wald baskets - man those things are great!
 Zip ties - great attachment technique, especially for above mentioned
 baskets!

 On 11/19/13, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thought hearing from you all would make an interesting thread.
  I have been enjoying my Sam for a long time now.
  I call these RBW ideas because that is where I first heard about them
  (thought I know they have been around for years, just not embraced so
 much
  these days). I was an alu/composite race bike kinda rider until I started
  to fear carbon failures and wanted to look into an all metal bike.
 
  I'll start:
 
  *RBW ideas that worked for me:*
  *1. Wider tires.* This has made a huge diff for my quality of riding. I
  used to own a typical race bike with 700 x 25, 120psi tires.
  It was great to ride, but hard to handle as it banged and bounced and
 tires
 
  got yanked around on gravelly, busted up shoulders. Not to mention the
 fear
 
  of getting the narrow tires caught in longitudinal road cracks.
  Got my Rivendell bikes and have used 32mm-40mm ~55psi tires on them and
  what a difference.
  No more bike bouncing. Slight rumbling and I am through the rough road
  parts. Tires stay on their straight course through the bad patches and I
  feel so much safer. Cush to boot. Very stable handling.
  I cannot see myself ever going back to anything narrower than 32mm wide
  tires. They seem dangerous to me now.
  *2. Fenders.* I never woulda dreamed of putting these on a bike in the
  past. But now I don't see riding without them making any sense to me. It
 is
 
  just good to be prepared and not have to worry about grunging up the bike
  with the street scum. They look great to boot, and are standard equipment
  on my bikes. I love the ultra coverage of the longboards.
  *3. Leather saddles.* No more butt pain. yay! What a smooth surface to
 sit
  on. I did have a little break in for a coupla weeks, but another dab o'
  proofhide broke her in and now its great.
  *4. Steel bike/lugs/cream headtubes/metal head badges.* Such a stable
 ride,
 
  beautiful to look at, and no worries about did I tension that bolt 1nM
 too
 
  far?. Feels good to not have to wonder about failures. The lugs and
 paint
  jobs are intoxicating.
  *5. Smaller chainrings/bigger cassettes/Triples.* Healthiest pedaling I
  have ever felt in my legs. The Sugino toothcounts work great for my neck
 of
 
  the woods. I would never want to go back to 39-52 or 30-40-54 cranks
 again.
 
  And, I have discovered that compact cranksets aren't for me. I love
  triples.
  *6. Big Saddle bags.* I love that I can carry lunch, repair kits/tools
 and
  a jacket in my Carradice, etc. So convenient. No more wondering how will
 I
  fit everything into my small nylon wedge.
  *7. Cotton tape/twine and shellac.* I balked at the idea as just taking
  things too far. But when my Sam arrived with it, it just looked so
  beautiful and natural and much better than electrical tape. Its fun to
 do,
  too!
  *8. Bar end shifters.* At first I thought that it was ridiculous not to
  have the convenience of brifters on a bike. But when I got my first
 Rivbike
 
  with bar ends, it was love at first shift. Just makes it so much more fun
  to play with those things than brifting. I think it also encourages your
  hands to move around more on the bars and I think that helps keep the
  numbness at bay. A quiet friction shift is a very satisfying sensation.
 And
 
  trimming is fun, too.
  *9. Platform pedals/ditching the click-ins.* I started using MKS Touring
  pedals and cannot see myself ever going back to click ins. It is so nice
 to
 
  be able to move the foot around and to just hop off the bike and walk
  normally and not feel weird in public duck walking. Starting up at green
  lights, all I have to do is just stand on the pedal and go. I don't have
 to
 
  fumble across the intersection anymore to click in. And think of all that
  cash I save by not having to buy expensive click in shoes and
  cleats/pedals.
  *10. Kickstands.* Having previously viewed these as bike anchors, I
 started
 
  realizing it just makes things sooo much easier when parking the bike
  in the garage, hopping off the bike for breaks/taking pictures, and they
  are just fun to install and look at. I love the rat-at-at-at-at sound the
  Pletscher makes when it is flipped.
  *11. 650b.* At first I thought: why?... And then: Aw, man!
  Now I am forced 

[RBW] Re: Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?

2013-11-19 Thread sameness
Makings of a good thread, Michael! 

First one to mention Kool-Aid owes the board a beer.

*YES*

1. Swept-back handlebars: Basically, the Albatross, which I had decided 
upon first glance were just klunkier Moustache bars, but have since come to 
find have more usable hand positions (for me) than drops.
2. Retention-free pedals: I don't dislike clips 'n straps, though as a 
confirmed masher, SPDs and their ilk just never worked for me. RMX sneaker 
pedals suit my riding almost perfectly. 
3. Saddle covers: Hey, they work! It rains here, a lot. Too bad they no 
longer make the grey MUSA. Have yet to find a non-stretchy one which fits 
quite as well on a Brooks without a lot of flop.

*NO*

1. Wider tires: On anything but a mountain bike, I'm still happiest on 32s. 
Still wider than the norm, but not RBW-approved Schwalbe Harry Hovercraft 
or whatever.
2. Bells: I can get used to almost anything on any bike... except the sight 
of a bell in my periphery. Totally irrational, but totally distracting to 
me. Perhaps it's the cockpit asymmetry? Besides, I rather like a good yell.
3. Big saddle bags: The more I ride, the less I want to bring with or back. 
No jaunt to date has had me mourning the lack of a bivouac or splitting 
maul. Though soon to be car-free, so my attitude will likely change the 
first time I'm out of bread, coffee and three other things.

Jeff Hagedorn
Warragul, VIC Australia

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[RBW] Re: Bike overnight near Ventura California

2013-11-19 Thread Mike Schiller
Curtis, you could ride up to Ojai and over Casitas Pass on the 1st day. 
About 34 miles and includes a nice bike trail in route to Ojai.  You can go 
further up Hwy 150 into Summerland if you want a longer ride and comedown 
the coast into Carpinteria.
On day two it's an easy ride down the coast ( except a short section on 
 the shoulder of Hwy 101) down Rincon and a bike trail into Ventura.  That 
section will take less than 2 hours. 

 ~mike

On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 5:15:24 PM UTC-8, Curtis wrote:

 I will be in Ventura next week for about 36 hours. Will be taking the bike 
 with plans to camp somewhere.  Any ideas would be most helpful.  Thanks.

 Ride safe,

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[RBW] Re: Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?

2013-11-19 Thread Tom Mainelli
Ditching the Speedplay pedals: After a near-crash experience with click ins 
during a muddy two-day charity ride I switched to VP Thin Gripster pedals 
and I've never looked back. So nice to be able to jump on the bike for a 
ride with my kid without getting kit'd up. And I'm way more comfy on the 
long rides now, too. As the weather has turned colder I've also tried wool 
socks with sandals and they really do work (is that Riv or Sheldon 
Brown...or both?) My wife laughs at me in the sandal/socks getup, but hey, 
what's new?

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