[RBW] Re: Suggest a small bike for a 5'2 woman
I ride a 47 Homer (same as a Saluki) with Albatross and an 8cm dirt drop. Fits pretty good with a drops set-up for me and I'm 5'2.5'' -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2
Trek bicycling, like life, entails dukkha. David G in San Diego On Jan 31, 2014, at 11:19 PM, Dave davele...@gmail.com wrote: I'm amazed treks tag line is less pain, more gain. Less? Why settle for less when it could be none? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Biking around Franklin, TN?
Whenever I know I'm going into a new area and have access to a bike, I go to www.RidewithGPS.com and do a search on other people's saved rides for that area. It usually gives a good impression of what the favored biking roads are, and allows you to copy and customize your own route. I use an older Garmin, but you don't need a GPS to view the routes and maps, or print out a cue sheet. On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 2:41:35 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote: This summer I may be in Franklin, TN (Nashville adjacent) and wondered if anyone in the area could chime in about the biking there. Any all input appreciated. Thanks. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2
Life is pain, Highness. Anyone who telly you differently is selling something. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, February 1, 2014 12:19:18 AM UTC-7, Dave wrote: I'm amazed treks tag line is less pain, more gain. Less? Why settle for less when it could be none? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] FS - 64cm Atlantis
As promised, a photo gallery. I've tried to be as exhaustive as possible, the smugmug gallery has full size images so you can zoom in as much as you want. There should be a drive and non-drive side image for each angle where applicable. If you have any questions please let me know. *http://tinyurl.com/ksm9znk* Full bike - $2,100 Frame Only - $1,500 I will consider offers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] FS - 64cm Atlantis
On the frame only I should have said; Frame, Fork, Headset, Bottom Bracket. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2
My daughter's Team Fuji with 1400g Hoops wheelset and modern 9-speed is cooler than her carbon... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/estes/bike/aleoncreektrailhead.jpg ...and every bit as fast On Saturday, February 1, 2014 7:59:04 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: Life is pain, Highness. Anyone who telly you differently is selling something. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, February 1, 2014 12:19:18 AM UTC-7, Dave wrote: I'm amazed treks tag line is less pain, more gain. Less? Why settle for less when it could be none? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Steger Arctic Mukluks for Winter Riding
now we know what it takes to get Deac in shoes On Friday, January 31, 2014 6:54:32 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: Here is an initial review of the Steger Arctic Mukluks for winter running. (Or hiking, biking, snowshoeing). I did bike in them and they are great for that, and I presume they are great for snowshoeing, but I will test that out later. Bottom line, I can’t believe how minimal, warm, dry, and comfortable these are, and they work great running steep mountain trails in winter’s deep and biking. The soles are soft and grippy, and easily grip my peg-free barefoot friendly pedals despite the snow. I wish I’d found these years ago! http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157640370727073/ With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Riv horse-trading on a Riv-centric site
If you click on the transactions tag on any transaction post, you will get the list of nothing but transactions posts. That's how I found my wheelset from Bob when I was ready to buy them. On Friday, January 31, 2014 6:32:19 PM UTC-6, Evan Baird wrote: Other forums have a permanent FS/WTB sticky thread. If nothing else it makes it easy to find stuff rather than searching all over a bunch of separate threads. Cuts down on the noise too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: From Sadness to Happiness - I'm Riding Again!
of course these are pants, but girls on bicycles always make me think of Carole Lombard http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/5194-mwZpbL._SX258_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg http://www.amazon.com/Hollywood-Rides-Bike-Cycling-Stars/dp/1883318637 On Friday, January 31, 2014 4:03:16 PM UTC-6, Cecily Walker wrote: Just like this, except browner and curvier. :-D On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 4:19:37 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 01/29/2014 07:04 PM, Cecily Walker wrote: I intend to ride in a dress just for the sheer cussedness of it. :-D -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Who's riding a 55 Sam?
Just call or email them to ask. I am sure they will be glad to tell you. I emailed, and they told me and emailed me a blueprint of my 52 Sam, showing all measurements of tubes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Steger Arctic Mukluks for Winter Riding
Aye! Winter. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, February 1, 2014 7:28:06 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: now we know what it takes to get Deac in shoes On Friday, January 31, 2014 6:54:32 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: Here is an initial review of the Steger Arctic Mukluks for winter running. (Or hiking, biking, snowshoeing). I did bike in them and they are great for that, and I presume they are great for snowshoeing, but I will test that out later. Bottom line, I can’t believe how minimal, warm, dry, and comfortable these are, and they work great running steep mountain trails in winter’s deep and biking. The soles are soft and grippy, and easily grip my peg-free barefoot friendly pedals despite the snow. I wish I’d found these years ago! http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157640370727073/ With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Bikepacking tips?
Here's a great picture of how well fatbikes float. Grin. http://www.flickr.com/photos/33954883@N08/6502477443/in/photolist-aUAU14-dJCYu4-bXpzQj-bXpznW-91H3LH-8GpMAG-9rQW2p-9rQW2i-9rQW2t-9ddjcg-eUgw2s-93KnUb-9zMD6b-9myP2a-9myM9i-a67ovk-9zMCd3-8GmBqF-aupt2n-ctPFrq-9dgrCQ-9cxD2i-bjBgNz-cYWXYf-b9HmvX-dMAqwf-dMuRT6-dMAqkW-dMAquS-dMAqr1-dNYV7R-dP5wFN-jwUGBB-dGWkeM-arywAL-7zrZZt-dpxL6a-dpxLar-i3Qtq2-7zvJMh-7zvHAW-dkqd8A-dkqcP5-dkqcUm-9cxEJp-9cAN3E-98geDV-98gewP-98gepF-98jo9b-dMAqtA With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 12:05:28 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: I'm not familiar with Motobecane, but wherever this marketing came from I'm calling BS: Float over three feet of soft powder snow A toboggan with a single person on it doesn't do that unless it is packed, and then it doesn't matter how deep it is. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 11:00:25 AM UTC-7, Skenry wrote: The fat bikes don't have to be expensive. I'm trying so very hard not to purchase one of these... http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/motobecane/fat-bikes/fantom-fat-bikes_fb4comp_xiv.htm only $695 shipped On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Ryan ryte...@mts.net wrote: And here's another site with links for winter cycling including maintenance: http://greenactioncentre.ca/2012/cycling-through-winter/ In Winnipeg, a lot of the couriers go fixed or single-speed, but we're pretty flat in Winnipeg so the less is more philosophy works well here; obviously this doesn't apply to your situation. Those fat bikes seem like they'd be great for bikepacking, but they sure aren't inexpensive, and I realize you want to use your Hunqapillar. I suspect some snowshoes that you could pack would be useful, too if the snow's deep, because I suspect you'll have to hike a lot of sections. Regards On Monday, January 27, 2014 8:21:38 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: Thanks, Jim. Yes, it is quite a temperature range -- bigger than summer's range. Yesterday, we reached 45 here, and this morning was -5˚F, so that is a 50 degree swing in 18 hours. I've ridden my bike for short rides down to -15˚F. So I'm reasonably comfortable that my setup is OK as is. I didn't see anything super glaring in the list you provided. Yes, miles of deep snow will be an adventure. I'm curious to see how that goes. With my vertigo, I can't carry any weight above my waist, so my wheeled pack-mammoth is my beast of burden. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, January 27, 2014 6:01:01 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote: Sorry, forgot the link: http://www.allweathersports. com/isport/ibiketips.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2
Masterful The Princess Bride pull, Deacon P. Anybody want a peanut? On Saturday, February 1, 2014 5:59:04 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote: Life is pain, Highness. Anyone who telly you differently is selling something. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, February 1, 2014 12:19:18 AM UTC-7, Dave wrote: I'm amazed treks tag line is less pain, more gain. Less? Why settle for less when it could be none? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Update: the woman who is 5'2
Since the price isn't listed on the Trek website, I suspect it must have cost a fortune. Wow. Although it's not my taste, I hope she loves it and rides the hell out of it! -- Liz S. On Saturday, February 1, 2014 1:01:13 AM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: She bought a carbon Trek Domane, because of course she did. Interestingly, the Domane is billed as a bike for rough rides and gravel. And it is spec'ed with, I am not making this up, 700 x 25 tires. Because when you're riding off road, you absolutely want to be riding 25mm tires. I believe the bike allows enormously huge 28mm tires too. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Update: the woman who is 5'2
no doubt she could have had a custom-frame Rivendell and change for the same money On Saturday, February 1, 2014 10:14:53 AM UTC-6, Elisabeth Sherwood wrote: Since the price isn't listed on the Trek website, I suspect it must have cost a fortune. Wow. Although it's not my taste, I hope she loves it and rides the hell out of it! -- Liz S. On Saturday, February 1, 2014 1:01:13 AM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: She bought a carbon Trek Domane, because of course she did. Interestingly, the Domane is billed as a bike for rough rides and gravel. And it is spec'ed with, I am not making this up, 700 x 25 tires. Because when you're riding off road, you absolutely want to be riding 25mm tires. I believe the bike allows enormously huge 28mm tires too. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Update: the woman who is 5'2
Not Quite. That bike is around the two grand mark, so even a Betty Foy is more than that. I am sure she will love her bike and if she doesn't she can sell it. On Saturday, February 1, 2014 11:32:37 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: no doubt she could have had a custom-frame Rivendell and change for the same money On Saturday, February 1, 2014 10:14:53 AM UTC-6, Elisabeth Sherwood wrote: Since the price isn't listed on the Trek website, I suspect it must have cost a fortune. Wow. Although it's not my taste, I hope she loves it and rides the hell out of it! -- Liz S. On Saturday, February 1, 2014 1:01:13 AM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: She bought a carbon Trek Domane, because of course she did. Interestingly, the Domane is billed as a bike for rough rides and gravel. And it is spec'ed with, I am not making this up, 700 x 25 tires. Because when you're riding off road, you absolutely want to be riding 25mm tires. I believe the bike allows enormously huge 28mm tires too. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Update: the woman who is 5'2
Not quite. That bike is hovering around two grand, which is less than even a Betty Foy or Sam Hillborne. I am happy that she bought a bike. On Saturday, February 1, 2014 11:32:37 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: no doubt she could have had a custom-frame Rivendell and change for the same money -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Update: the woman who is 5'2
OK, thanks - love Liesl's Saluki photo from the previous thread On Saturday, February 1, 2014 10:42:30 AM UTC-6, blakcloud wrote: Not quite. That bike is hovering around two grand, which is less than even a Betty Foy or Sam Hillborne. I am happy that she bought a bike. On Saturday, February 1, 2014 11:32:37 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: no doubt she could have had a custom-frame Rivendell and change for the same money -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2
To me, getting people on bikes is the most important thing. Hopefully, like many of us on this list, she will experience her own bike journey that over time will lead her to the comfort, longevity and beauty of lugged steel. And personally I have been excited in reading this thread to learn there are many other women out there who are bike geeks! Joyce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2
Though she would probably have more fun with a different bike, I hope she enjoys this one more than whatever she has been riding. Being only 5'2 she likely doesn't weigh very much so 25 or 28 tires should be more reasonable than they are for the average adult male. Particularly if she doesn't get carried away inflating them. Also I think that bike has a 34t small ring, rather than the 39t that is more typical for race bikes. If/when she finds the low gear too tall she can swap the rd and cassette to get a 34t big cog for a ~26 low gear, which is fairly low. Even just having a 27t cog would get her a 33 gear which really isn't too bad. On Friday, January 31, 2014 10:16:23 PM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote: She bought a Domane 4: Domane 4 Series flies past any other carbon endurance race bike in its class, with IsoSpeed for race comfort, endurance geometry for stability, and Power Transfer Construction for speed. I'm not exactly sure what a carbon endurance race bike is supposed to be, but I guess I'll see tomorrow if she shows up at our big club ride. After I suggested to her in email that a double chainring might not be adequate for the roads around here, some of which are very steep indeed (Redwood Gulch! Bohlmann!) she told me that the shop said that triples have more repair problems than doubles. Maybe that's a problem with brifters? I have never had trouble with the triples on my bikes, but I also don't use brifters. On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 10:07 PM, cyclotourist cyclot...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Well bless her heart. But really, who wouldn't want every advantage elite athletes desire? http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/collections/womens/road/endurance_race/domane_5_series/ Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 10:01 PM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: She bought a carbon Trek Domane, because of course she did. Interestingly, the Domane is billed as a bike for rough rides and gravel. And it is spec'ed with, I am not making this up, 700 x 25 tires. Because when you're riding off road, you absolutely want to be riding 25mm tires. I believe the bike allows enormously huge 28mm tires too. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Steger Arctic Mukluks for Winter Riding
Here the mukluks are on the bike: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/12254206093/ With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2
Joyce, great words!! Jason sf,ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2
+1 'Just Ride' -JimD On Feb 1, 2014, at 8:42 AM, blakcloud blakclou...@gmail.com wrote: Not quite. That bike is hovering around two grand, which is less than even a Betty Foy or Sam Hillborne. I am happy that she bought a bike. On Saturday, February 1, 2014 11:32:37 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: no doubt she could have had a custom-frame Rivendell and change for the same money -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Who's riding a 55 Sam?
Speaking of Sams, my local buddy told me at the ride today, that he listed his orange Sam on Ebay with a BIN of $1,700 and it was snapped up in 2 hrs. He said he wished he had asked for more. He has other bikes and this one wasn't getting the miles. On 2/1/2014 8:37 AM, Michael wrote: Just call or email them to ask. I am sure they will be glad to tell you. I emailed, and they told me and emailed me a blueprint of my 52 Sam, showing all measurements of tubes. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Looking for my first Rivendell
Hi everyone, I've been admiring Rivendell's website and the various Flickr pages associated with it for a few years now. This year looks like I should finally be able to buy one. I have a few bikes now that I have set up as near a Rivendell as I can, but they're just not what I'm looking for (probably all psychological, but still). I'm torn between the Sam Hillborne and the Hunqapillar. I don't do any touring now, but that's largely due to not having a bike to do it. I have plenty of friends who go bike camping now that I'm in Texas, and am looking forward to it this summer. Upwards of 30 miles each way, fully loaded with camping gear, food, etc. for a few days' trip. Mostly, though, I am a commuter. About 4 miles each way. I have a commuter now, a 1984 Cannondale 56cm ST300 frame with an SR Apex 30/44/48 Triple front and a 12-32 8-speed Cassette in the back, 35mm Bontrager Commuter tires with Longboard fenders, Nitto Mustache bars with bar ends and a Nitto Technomic Stem, and a Daija Rear Rack I bought from VO. It's a good bike, but just a tad small and I'm not comfortable loading even for the camping trips. I would be all-in for the Hunqa, except I'm concerned about it being a bear to just ride around with a light load or unloaded if I was heading out for a day ride around town, which points me to the Sam. Plus the Sam is a good bit cheaper these days, but I would move a good deal of components from the Cannondale to the new frame. Anyway, sorry for the word vomit. My point: anyone have experience with these two as far as handling? I'd love a Hunqa. I think it's a real beauty, diaga-tube and all. I'm 6' even with longish legs. Around an 89 PBH, so I'd be looking at a 58cm in either bike, 2tt on the Sam, diaga-tube on the Hunqa. I'm just afraid it's too beefy for just riding around. Any help is much appreciated. Cheers, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Biking around Franklin, TN?
Doug - I lived in Nashville for a while and there is some excellent country roads all around Williamson County, specifically around Leiper's Fork...a short drive from Franklin. I've lived in N. Cal for 3 year years now and every weekend I wish I was on a Leiper's Fork ride. Downtown Leiper's Fork is a great place to start, I used to park in the community center parking lot, ride for 30-50 miles, and then come back and get some barbeque at Puckett's Grocery. Can't beat it. Best thing in the world. I'm sure Map My Ride or whatever similar site has some good suggestions on rides to do from there, but definitely use that as a starting point. There are some cool rides around Franklin too, can't go wrong there either, but it is a little more suburban there, whereas Leipers Fork is far more rural. Natchez Trace is super popular, and very scenic. I did a few rides and an overnight tour on it and thought it had a heavy wind tunnel effect, not a fan. I always followed a group and suck at directions, so that's all I got. Good luck. On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 11:41:35 AM UTC-8, dougP wrote: This summer I may be in Franklin, TN (Nashville adjacent) and wondered if anyone in the area could chime in about the biking there. Any all input appreciated. Thanks. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Update: the woman who is 5'2
I did the same thing 30 years ago. Walked into a bike shop with a fist full of cash to buy a miyata 610 and walked out with a much to small miyata 710. On Friday, January 31, 2014 10:01:13 PM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote: She bought a carbon Trek Domane, because of course she did. Interestingly, the Domane is billed as a bike for rough rides and gravel. And it is spec'ed with, I am not making this up, 700 x 25 tires. Because when you're riding off road, you absolutely want to be riding 25mm tires. I believe the bike allows enormously huge 28mm tires too. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2
It is true that it's hard to make triple shifting with indexing brifters work well in the long term. It is not that the shifter wears out (though they can break), it is more that the front derailler and the chain wear (as things do), and it is hard to accomodate this with indexing brifters. Friction shifting can compensate for this just fine. Maybe the bike shop was honestly trying to be be helpful, though the problem is not with triples but with front indexing brifters. On Friday, January 31, 2014 10:16:23 PM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote: She bought a Domane 4: Domane 4 Series flies past any other carbon endurance race bike in its class, with IsoSpeed for race comfort, endurance geometry for stability, and Power Transfer Construction for speed. I'm not exactly sure what a carbon endurance race bike is supposed to be, but I guess I'll see tomorrow if she shows up at our big club ride. After I suggested to her in email that a double chainring might not be adequate for the roads around here, some of which are very steep indeed (Redwood Gulch! Bohlmann!) she told me that the shop said that triples have more repair problems than doubles. Maybe that's a problem with brifters? I have never had trouble with the triples on my bikes, but I also don't use brifters. On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 10:07 PM, cyclotourist cyclot...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Well bless her heart. But really, who wouldn't want every advantage elite athletes desire? http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/collections/womens/road/endurance_race/domane_5_series/ Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 10:01 PM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: She bought a carbon Trek Domane, because of course she did. Interestingly, the Domane is billed as a bike for rough rides and gravel. And it is spec'ed with, I am not making this up, 700 x 25 tires. Because when you're riding off road, you absolutely want to be riding 25mm tires. I believe the bike allows enormously huge 28mm tires too. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Update: the woman who is 5'2
We are so spoiled... ;^) But, as others see us enjoying endless roads and trails, they shall understand our odd fascination with useful designs and appropriate clearances. - J On Friday, January 31, 2014 10:01:13 PM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote: She bought a carbon Trek Domane, because of course she did. Interestingly, the Domane is billed as a bike for rough rides and gravel. And it is spec'ed with, I am not making this up, 700 x 25 tires. Because when you're riding off road, you absolutely want to be riding 25mm tires. I believe the bike allows enormously huge 28mm tires too. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] FS: 4 Knog Nerd Computers
Update: Green 12-function has been sold. All others still available. –Eric N Sent from my iPhone 5S On Jan 31, 2014, at 5:26 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: I've switched to a Garmin computer, which has left me with four Knog Nerd wireless computers that I kno longer kneed. I have two in green (great color match for your green Quickbeam or other Riv bike), one in red, and one in black. All in nice used condition. One of the green computers is the 12-function, described here: http://www.knog.com.au/gear-cycle-computers/nerd-12.phps The rest are the 9-function: http://www.knog.com.au/gear-cycle-computers/nerd-9.phps I'm asking $40 each, shipped to you in the CONUS. I'll sell and ship two for $75, three for $105, or all four at once for $120. First person requesting green gets the 12-function. The Nerd is a knice computer, easy to use and easy to read (BIG numbers in the display!). --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com Twitter: @campyonlyguy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Update: the woman who is 5'2
That's sounds like a good Riv T-shirt: Rivendell Bicycle Works: An odd fascination with useful designs and appropriate clearances ever since 1994. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Cyclofiend Jim cyclofi...@earthlink.netwrote: We are so spoiled... ;^) But, as others see us enjoying endless roads and trails, they shall understand our odd fascination with useful designs and appropriate clearances. - J On Friday, January 31, 2014 10:01:13 PM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote: She bought a carbon Trek Domane, because of course she did. Interestingly, the Domane is billed as a bike for rough rides and gravel. And it is spec'ed with, I am not making this up, 700 x 25 tires. Because when you're riding off road, you absolutely want to be riding 25mm tires. I believe the bike allows enormously huge 28mm tires too. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Who's riding a 55 Sam?
That was a really nice bike! http://www.ebay.com/itm/121259458863 Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Bruce Herbitter bruce.herbit...@gmail.comwrote: Speaking of Sams, my local buddy told me at the ride today, that he listed his orange Sam on Ebay with a BIN of $1,700 and it was snapped up in 2 hrs. He said he wished he had asked for more. He has other bikes and this one wasn't getting the miles. On 2/1/2014 8:37 AM, Michael wrote: Just call or email them to ask. I am sure they will be glad to tell you. I emailed, and they told me and emailed me a blueprint of my 52 Sam, showing all measurements of tubes. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Looking for my first Rivendell
The wheelset you choose will influence how the bike feels. The Hunq is a mounatin bike essentially that does other things well too. The Sam is a country bike that does dirt fire roads, packed grass, and touring really well. With lighter wheels and tires it is a fine road sport bike, but it is not and was not meant to be a race fast bike (Roadeo fills that niche) Obviously there is overflow. For the abuse of city commuting, I think Hunq gets your nod. Welcome aboard and not word vomit at all. On 1/31/2014 12:31 PM, Mike K. wrote: Hi everyone, I've been admiring Rivendell's website and the various Flickr pages associated with it for a few years now. This year looks like I should finally be able to buy one. I have a few bikes now that I have set up as near a Rivendell as I can, but they're just not what I'm looking for (probably all psychological, but still). I'm torn between the Sam Hillborne and the Hunqapillar. I don't do any touring now, but that's largely due to not having a bike to do it. I have plenty of friends who go bike camping now that I'm in Texas, and am looking forward to it this summer. Upwards of 30 miles each way, fully loaded with camping gear, food, etc. for a few days' trip. Mostly, though, I am a commuter. About 4 miles each way. I have a commuter now, a 1984 Cannondale 56cm ST300 frame with an SR Apex 30/44/48 Triple front and a 12-32 8-speed Cassette in the back, 35mm Bontrager Commuter tires with Longboard fenders, Nitto Mustache bars with bar ends and a Nitto Technomic Stem, and a Daija Rear Rack I bought from VO. It's a good bike, but just a tad small and I'm not comfortable loading even for the camping trips. I would be all-in for the Hunqa, except I'm concerned about it being a bear to just ride around with a light load or unloaded if I was heading out for a day ride around town, which points me to the Sam. Plus the Sam is a good bit cheaper these days, but I would move a good deal of components from the Cannondale to the new frame. Anyway, sorry for the word vomit. My point: anyone have experience with these two as far as handling? I'd love a Hunqa. I think it's a real beauty, diaga-tube and all. I'm 6' even with longish legs. Around an 89 PBH, so I'd be looking at a 58cm in either bike, 2tt on the Sam, diaga-tube on the Hunqa. I'm just afraid it's too beefy for just riding around. Any help is much appreciated. Cheers, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Looking for my first Rivendell
I think you would be happy with a Hunq, particularly if you are going to be using it for touring. Jim W rides his just about everywhere, and is real happy with it, maybe he will chime in. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Bruce Herbitter bruce.herbit...@gmail.comwrote: The wheelset you choose will influence how the bike feels. The Hunq is a mounatin bike essentially that does other things well too. The Sam is a country bike that does dirt fire roads, packed grass, and touring really well. With lighter wheels and tires it is a fine road sport bike, but it is not and was not meant to be a race fast bike (Roadeo fills that niche) Obviously there is overflow. For the abuse of city commuting, I think Hunq gets your nod. Welcome aboard and not word vomit at all. On 1/31/2014 12:31 PM, Mike K. wrote: Hi everyone, I've been admiring Rivendell's website and the various Flickr pages associated with it for a few years now. This year looks like I should finally be able to buy one. I have a few bikes now that I have set up as near a Rivendell as I can, but they're just not what I'm looking for (probably all psychological, but still). I'm torn between the Sam Hillborne and the Hunqapillar. I don't do any touring now, but that's largely due to not having a bike to do it. I have plenty of friends who go bike camping now that I'm in Texas, and am looking forward to it this summer. Upwards of 30 miles each way, fully loaded with camping gear, food, etc. for a few days' trip. Mostly, though, I am a commuter. About 4 miles each way. I have a commuter now, a 1984 Cannondale 56cm ST300 frame with an SR Apex 30/44/48 Triple front and a 12-32 8-speed Cassette in the back, 35mm Bontrager Commuter tires with Longboard fenders, Nitto Mustache bars with bar ends and a Nitto Technomic Stem, and a Daija Rear Rack I bought from VO. It's a good bike, but just a tad small and I'm not comfortable loading even for the camping trips. I would be all-in for the Hunqa, except I'm concerned about it being a bear to just ride around with a light load or unloaded if I was heading out for a day ride around town, which points me to the Sam. Plus the Sam is a good bit cheaper these days, but I would move a good deal of components from the Cannondale to the new frame. Anyway, sorry for the word vomit. My point: anyone have experience with these two as far as handling? I'd love a Hunqa. I think it's a real beauty, diaga-tube and all. I'm 6' even with longish legs. Around an 89 PBH, so I'd be looking at a 58cm in either bike, 2tt on the Sam, diaga-tube on the Hunqa. I'm just afraid it's too beefy for just riding around. Any help is much appreciated. Cheers, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Looking for my first Rivendell
Welcome to the gang! As far as the Hunqapillar feeling bear like - I gotta say naaahhh! The added tube (whether 2nd TT or Diagatube) adds much, much more weight in people's minds than it ever does in the real world. Back when GP was looking at the original Bombadil design and thinking about added more tubes, he handed me the tube he was thinking about. My first thought was, C'mon Grant, let GO of it! He had, of course, and I think I drifted away for a minute or two in the reverie of thought about what a wonderfully light and strong thing modern steel is, while thinking about the stress distribution inherent in a tube structure. In either case, you have the additional tube, so I'd be surprised if you feel any direct difference. I've ridden both and the differences were all about the setup and bars, rather than the frame. A 58 cm Rivendell is going to be different (way different) than a 56 cm (?) C'dale. Though the 35 mm tires were a good move to offset the aluminum frame. I'm to the point where I just don't want to ride anything less than Jack Brown tires (at 33 1/3 mm) but do use those to cover a pretty wide variety of topography. YMMV, of course, depending upon your trails and riding style. But, if you plan on touring, there are now so many good tires in the 35 - 45 mm range that I'd figure those to be your basic specs. I'd probably give the edge to the Hunq if you are going to tour, only because it was optimized and designed with that more in it's basic palette. You could easily use either for both. A bit vague, but hope that helps! - Jim / cyclofiend.com On Friday, January 31, 2014 10:31:32 AM UTC-8, Mike K. wrote: Hi everyone, I've been admiring Rivendell's website and the various Flickr pages associated with it for a few years now. This year looks like I should finally be able to buy one. I have a few bikes now that I have set up as near a Rivendell as I can, but they're just not what I'm looking for (probably all psychological, but still). I'm torn between the Sam Hillborne and the Hunqapillar. I don't do any touring now, but that's largely due to not having a bike to do it. I have plenty of friends who go bike camping now that I'm in Texas, and am looking forward to it this summer. Upwards of 30 miles each way, fully loaded with camping gear, food, etc. for a few days' trip. Mostly, though, I am a commuter. About 4 miles each way. I have a commuter now, a 1984 Cannondale 56cm ST300 frame with an SR Apex 30/44/48 Triple front and a 12-32 8-speed Cassette in the back, 35mm Bontrager Commuter tires with Longboard fenders, Nitto Mustache bars with bar ends and a Nitto Technomic Stem, and a Daija Rear Rack I bought from VO. It's a good bike, but just a tad small and I'm not comfortable loading even for the camping trips. I would be all-in for the Hunqa, except I'm concerned about it being a bear to just ride around with a light load or unloaded if I was heading out for a day ride around town, which points me to the Sam. Plus the Sam is a good bit cheaper these days, but I would move a good deal of components from the Cannondale to the new frame. Anyway, sorry for the word vomit. My point: anyone have experience with these two as far as handling? I'd love a Hunqa. I think it's a real beauty, diaga-tube and all. I'm 6' even with longish legs. Around an 89 PBH, so I'd be looking at a 58cm in either bike, 2tt on the Sam, diaga-tube on the Hunqa. I'm just afraid it's too beefy for just riding around. Any help is much appreciated. Cheers, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Looking for my first Rivendell
Mike, Fantastic! I ride my mammoth hard and put it away wet. For short trips around town, to trails a few miles away, on wondrously long and short bikepacking trips, single track, dirt roads, paved. I think 70-80 miles is my longest ride, on the Great Divide MTB trail (road, truth be told). For the same effort, I would have gone 100-120 on paved. I keep a large saddle sack on my back rack and an x-small as a front bag and I regularly pass others biking the roads around town, and am rarely passed by bikers on the known roadie routes around here. As Grant says, the quality of the engine matters far more than the few pounds in the frame, and those few pounds will more than pay their way when you discover trail riding and trails to bike pack on. Perhaps get a few wheel sets, so you have the light road set up and the heavy duty trail set up. Go Hunqa! With abandon, Patrick On Friday, January 31, 2014 11:31:32 AM UTC-7, Mike K. wrote: Hi everyone, I've been admiring Rivendell's website and the various Flickr pages associated with it for a few years now. This year looks like I should finally be able to buy one. I have a few bikes now that I have set up as near a Rivendell as I can, but they're just not what I'm looking for (probably all psychological, but still). I'm torn between the Sam Hillborne and the Hunqapillar. I don't do any touring now, but that's largely due to not having a bike to do it. I have plenty of friends who go bike camping now that I'm in Texas, and am looking forward to it this summer. Upwards of 30 miles each way, fully loaded with camping gear, food, etc. for a few days' trip. Mostly, though, I am a commuter. About 4 miles each way. I have a commuter now, a 1984 Cannondale 56cm ST300 frame with an SR Apex 30/44/48 Triple front and a 12-32 8-speed Cassette in the back, 35mm Bontrager Commuter tires with Longboard fenders, Nitto Mustache bars with bar ends and a Nitto Technomic Stem, and a Daija Rear Rack I bought from VO. It's a good bike, but just a tad small and I'm not comfortable loading even for the camping trips. I would be all-in for the Hunqa, except I'm concerned about it being a bear to just ride around with a light load or unloaded if I was heading out for a day ride around town, which points me to the Sam. Plus the Sam is a good bit cheaper these days, but I would move a good deal of components from the Cannondale to the new frame. Anyway, sorry for the word vomit. My point: anyone have experience with these two as far as handling? I'd love a Hunqa. I think it's a real beauty, diaga-tube and all. I'm 6' even with longish legs. Around an 89 PBH, so I'd be looking at a 58cm in either bike, 2tt on the Sam, diaga-tube on the Hunqa. I'm just afraid it's too beefy for just riding around. Any help is much appreciated. Cheers, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Update: the woman who is 5'2
Anne, you tried. Likely you were the only one suggesting she consider alternatives. In my club, whenever anyone inquires about what should I get? the discussion quickly devolves into the merits of Big T vs Big S. Lately a few CX bikes have snuck in but are considered radical. Since the average age is over 50, a lot of these riders suffer on longer rides, and actively avoid hills. Too bad the bike becomes a limiting factor in having fun. dougP On Friday, January 31, 2014 10:01:13 PM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote: She bought a carbon Trek Domane, because of course she did. Interestingly, the Domane is billed as a bike for rough rides and gravel. And it is spec'ed with, I am not making this up, 700 x 25 tires. Because when you're riding off road, you absolutely want to be riding 25mm tires. I believe the bike allows enormously huge 28mm tires too. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Looking for my first Rivendell
That said, I do suggest you talk the ears off the good folks at Rivendell, giving them all you are looking to do with your bike, and see what they say. They certainly know the range of their bikes far better than I do! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for my first Rivendell
Hey Mike, welcome to the group! Will, who is an employee at Rivendell owns both a Hunq and a Sam in 62cm, I know cuz I ride with him a bit, he would be the man to talk to! Either way, I dont think you can go wrong. Good luck man! -Mike Sent from my iPhone On Feb 1, 2014, at 12:59 PM, Cyclofiend Jim cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: Welcome to the gang! As far as the Hunqapillar feeling bear like - I gotta say naaahhh! The added tube (whether 2nd TT or Diagatube) adds much, much more weight in people's minds than it ever does in the real world. Back when GP was looking at the original Bombadil design and thinking about added more tubes, he handed me the tube he was thinking about. My first thought was, C'mon Grant, let GO of it! He had, of course, and I think I drifted away for a minute or two in the reverie of thought about what a wonderfully light and strong thing modern steel is, while thinking about the stress distribution inherent in a tube structure. In either case, you have the additional tube, so I'd be surprised if you feel any direct difference. I've ridden both and the differences were all about the setup and bars, rather than the frame. A 58 cm Rivendell is going to be different (way different) than a 56 cm (?) C'dale. Though the 35 mm tires were a good move to offset the aluminum frame. I'm to the point where I just don't want to ride anything less than Jack Brown tires (at 33 1/3 mm) but do use those to cover a pretty wide variety of topography. YMMV, of course, depending upon your trails and riding style. But, if you plan on touring, there are now so many good tires in the 35 - 45 mm range that I'd figure those to be your basic specs. I'd probably give the edge to the Hunq if you are going to tour, only because it was optimized and designed with that more in it's basic palette. You could easily use either for both. A bit vague, but hope that helps! - Jim / cyclofiend.com On Friday, January 31, 2014 10:31:32 AM UTC-8, Mike K. wrote: Hi everyone, I've been admiring Rivendell's website and the various Flickr pages associated with it for a few years now. This year looks like I should finally be able to buy one. I have a few bikes now that I have set up as near a Rivendell as I can, but they're just not what I'm looking for (probably all psychological, but still). I'm torn between the Sam Hillborne and the Hunqapillar. I don't do any touring now, but that's largely due to not having a bike to do it. I have plenty of friends who go bike camping now that I'm in Texas, and am looking forward to it this summer. Upwards of 30 miles each way, fully loaded with camping gear, food, etc. for a few days' trip. Mostly, though, I am a commuter. About 4 miles each way. I have a commuter now, a 1984 Cannondale 56cm ST300 frame with an SR Apex 30/44/48 Triple front and a 12-32 8-speed Cassette in the back, 35mm Bontrager Commuter tires with Longboard fenders, Nitto Mustache bars with bar ends and a Nitto Technomic Stem, and a Daija Rear Rack I bought from VO. It's a good bike, but just a tad small and I'm not comfortable loading even for the camping trips. I would be all-in for the Hunqa, except I'm concerned about it being a bear to just ride around with a light load or unloaded if I was heading out for a day ride around town, which points me to the Sam. Plus the Sam is a good bit cheaper these days, but I would move a good deal of components from the Cannondale to the new frame. Anyway, sorry for the word vomit. My point: anyone have experience with these two as far as handling? I'd love a Hunqa. I think it's a real beauty, diaga-tube and all. I'm 6' even with longish legs. Around an 89 PBH, so I'd be looking at a 58cm in either bike, 2tt on the Sam, diaga-tube on the Hunqa. I'm just afraid it's too beefy for just riding around. Any help is much appreciated. Cheers, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Looking for my first Rivendell
Mike: +1 for Patrick's idea. Think about what you are going to do with the bike - proportion of time on paved or developed roads vs single track; how much of the time with a heavy load compared with empty; riding with any fast riders or are your rides leisurely; fenders vs no fenders; favorite tire size, etc. Rivendell will give you straight answers good guidance. My personal guess is that either bike will do the job for you. Even though Rivendells do have target markets, they are so versatile that for the vast majority of us any of several models would work. Dressed in similar build kits, it may be hard to decide which is better. A common response when someone puts together their first Rivendell is shear joy amazement that a bike can ride so nicely. I still remember my first ride on my Atlantis in 2003. My reaction was this is what a bike is supposed to feel like.. dougP On Saturday, February 1, 2014 1:06:24 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote: That said, I do suggest you talk the ears off the good folks at Rivendell, giving them all you are looking to do with your bike, and see what they say. They certainly know the range of their bikes far better than I do! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] UPDATE FS: 4 Knog Nerd Computers
Remaining for sale are the green and red 9-function models. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com Twitter: @campyonlyguy On Feb 1, 2014, at 12:18 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Update: Green 12-function has been sold. All others still available. -Eric N Sent from my iPhone 5S On Jan 31, 2014, at 5:26 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: I've switched to a Garmin computer, which has left me with four Knog Nerd wireless computers that I kno longer kneed. I have two in green (great color match for your green Quickbeam or other Riv bike), one in red, and one in black. All in nice used condition. One of the green computers is the 12-function, described here: http://www.knog.com.au/gear-cycle-computers/nerd-12.phps The rest are the 9-function: http://www.knog.com.au/gear-cycle-computers/nerd-9.phps I'm asking $40 each, shipped to you in the CONUS. I'll sell and ship two for $75, three for $105, or all four at once for $120. First person requesting green gets the 12-function. The Nerd is a knice computer, easy to use and easy to read (BIG numbers in the display!). --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com Twitter: @campyonlyguy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Biking around Franklin, TN?
Another great thing about this list is the helpful members sharing their knowledge. That's probably THE great thing about this list!!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Update: the woman who is 5'2
Oh, and if you see her, check where the saddle is! I'm sure that if you can push it back as far as it can go the bike will be more comfortable for her. Cheers, -- Liz On Saturday, February 1, 2014 11:14:53 AM UTC-5, Elisabeth Sherwood wrote: Since the price isn't listed on the Trek website, I suspect it must have cost a fortune. Wow. Although it's not my taste, I hope she loves it and rides the hell out of it! -- Liz S. On Saturday, February 1, 2014 1:01:13 AM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: She bought a carbon Trek Domane, because of course she did. Interestingly, the Domane is billed as a bike for rough rides and gravel. And it is spec'ed with, I am not making this up, 700 x 25 tires. Because when you're riding off road, you absolutely want to be riding 25mm tires. I believe the bike allows enormously huge 28mm tires too. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Who's riding a 55 Sam?
Actually, I did email them about this and didn't hear back. I'm sure they're busy. Don't want to bother them. Seems reasonable for them to update the geometry information. --mike On Saturday, February 1, 2014 6:37:36 AM UTC-8, Michael wrote: Just call or email them to ask. I am sure they will be glad to tell you. I emailed, and they told me and emailed me a blueprint of my 52 Sam, showing all measurements of tubes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Who's riding a 55 Sam?
Give em a call. They are friendly and don't bite, unless you are bacon or other delicious fat. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, February 1, 2014 6:19:11 PM UTC-7, Mike wrote: Actually, I did email them about this and didn't hear back. I'm sure they're busy. Don't want to bother them. Seems reasonable for them to update the geometry information. --mike On Saturday, February 1, 2014 6:37:36 AM UTC-8, Michael wrote: Just call or email them to ask. I am sure they will be glad to tell you. I emailed, and they told me and emailed me a blueprint of my 52 Sam, showing all measurements of tubes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] FS: Tektro Levers and IRD Canti-brake set
As set up by Rivendell staff, this combo of Tektros and IRDs (with salmons) gave the best braking I have ever used, considering all types and models of brake. If my present bikes accepted cantis, I'd be using them still. Unsolicited plug. On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Ad Noyce adamab...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I pulled these Tektro levers and IRD canti-brakes off my Sam's noodle bar and wanted to see that they go to a good home, see photo attached.I've since gone to a moustache bar with Shimano levers and Tektro brakes, as seen on Riv's current offerings. These might be worth a look if your next build project has been awaiting some Riv-friendly cantis. Lightly used Kool-Stop pads included. Asking price is 50 bones + CONUS shipping. Thanks, Adam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Albuquerque, NM, USA Resumes, LinkedIn Profiles, and Letters that get interviews. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Who's riding a 55 Sam?
Don't want to be bothered? Of course they want to be bothered -- they want to make a sale and, important for Riv, they want their customers to be knowledgeable and happy. Try again. I've never been failed in a reply. On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, I did email them about this and didn't hear back. I'm sure they're busy. Don't want to bother them. Seems reasonable for them to update the geometry information. --mike On Saturday, February 1, 2014 6:37:36 AM UTC-8, Michael wrote: Just call or email them to ask. I am sure they will be glad to tell you. I emailed, and they told me and emailed me a blueprint of my 52 Sam, showing all measurements of tubes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Albuquerque, NM, USA Resumes, LinkedIn Profiles, and Letters that get interviews. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Who's riding a 55 Sam?
Were I you I'd ring them up. They have never been too busy to talk. Great folks. A discussion with a person at Riv who rides both bikes is something I wouldn't pass up. -JimD On Feb 1, 2014, at 5:19 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, I did email them about this and didn't hear back. I'm sure they're busy. Don't want to bother them. Seems reasonable for them to update the geometry information. --mike On Saturday, February 1, 2014 6:37:36 AM UTC-8, Michael wrote: Just call or email them to ask. I am sure they will be glad to tell you. I emailed, and they told me and emailed me a blueprint of my 52 Sam, showing all measurements of tubes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Who's riding a 55 Sam?
Believe me, I've called and spoken with them and had multiple back and forth's with RBW staff about various products and issues over the years. It's not a big issue as it's not like I'm buying a frame today or anything. I'm just sorta curious. I had emailed Jared who is noted to be the point person on Hillborne's per the website. I'm sure if I were to email Keven I'd get a swift response. I may do that at some point. For the past couple of years I've been close to pulling the trigger on a SH but then I've either backed down or something has come up. My greatest Riv regret? Not pulling the trigger on a Hunqapillar or SH a few years ago when I had the green light from my spouse, cash on hand and said bikes were in stock... Other Riv regrets include selling my Quickbeam and my medium Sackville SaddleSack. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2
I was at first going to say of this woman's purchase, she was sold a bill of goods and perhaps she was; our entire way of life consists largely in being sold a bill of goods by one interest group or another -- *their* interest instead of *ours.* (Rivendell, on the other hand, seems to me to really have the cyclist's interest, as understood by Grant, at heart.) I do hate the garbage that is spewed to sell bikes, in particular, regardless of the buyer's best interests. Still, perhaps the Domane will suit her. Do we know it won't? At least she is on a road bike, and I for one see room for many more road bike types than just the Sam Hill. Perhaps she'll enjoy it? After all, Trek sells a huge number of bikes and not all their buyers can possibly be unhappy dupes, right? Nod to other posts: Saddle setback. There is an ideal saddle setback (ie, compared to the bb shell) for each rider that is entirely, nay e *xistentially, *independent of anything else about the bike, and the rest of the bike has to be designed, or adapted, to compensate for any other variable that is not ideal once this saddle position is in place. Top tube length: Given this axiomatic truth, top tube length really does matter, taking into account seat tube angle and desired type and height of bar. On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 11:01 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: She bought a carbon Trek Domane, because of course she did. Interestingly, the Domane is billed as a bike for rough rides and gravel. And it is spec'ed with, I am not making this up, 700 x 25 tires. Because when you're riding off road, you absolutely want to be riding 25mm tires. I believe the bike allows enormously huge 28mm tires too. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Albuquerque, NM, USA Resumes, LinkedIn Profiles, and Letters that get interviews. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2
On 02/01/2014 10:29 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: I was at first going to say of this woman's purchase, she was sold a bill of goods and perhaps she was; our entire way of life consists largely in being sold a bill of goods by one interest group or another -- /their/ interest instead of /ours./ (Rivendell, on the other hand, seems to me to really have the cyclist's interest, as understood by Grant, at heart.) I do hate the garbage that is spewed to sell bikes, in particular, regardless of the buyer's best interests. Still, perhaps the Domane will suit her. Do we know it won't? At least she is on a road bike, and I for one see room for many more road bike types than just the Sam Hill. Perhaps she'll enjoy it? After all, Trek sells a huge number of bikes and not all their buyers can possibly be unhappy dupes, right? There are a couple in the bike club I ride with. The owners seem very happy with them. There's an elastomer in the junction between the top tube and the seat tube intended to make the bike ride better on rough roads. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2
One more remark: last summer, an older gent brought in a Specialize Roubaix Di2 in for a computer. It was rigged with cheap rattrap pedals and (on the carbon fiber post) a cheap post-mounted rack with a cheap rack bag. I sneered and snickered only to learn that the rider loved it and, two, that it had been given him by the original buyer who, thanks to progressing neurological disease, could no longer ride -- anything. I felt bad, as I should have. After all, the recipient (in his own words) loved it. On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I was at first going to say of this woman's purchase, she was sold a bill of goods and perhaps she was; our entire way of life consists largely in being sold a bill of goods by one interest group or another -- *their* interest instead of *ours.* (Rivendell, on the other hand, seems to me to really have the cyclist's interest, as understood by Grant, at heart.) I do hate the garbage that is spewed to sell bikes, in particular, regardless of the buyer's best interests. Still, perhaps the Domane will suit her. Do we know it won't? At least she is on a road bike, and I for one see room for many more road bike types than just the Sam Hill. Perhaps she'll enjoy it? After all, Trek sells a huge number of bikes and not all their buyers can possibly be unhappy dupes, right? Nod to other posts: Saddle setback. There is an ideal saddle setback (ie, compared to the bb shell) for each rider that is entirely, nay e *xistentially, *independent of anything else about the bike, and the rest of the bike has to be designed, or adapted, to compensate for any other variable that is not ideal once this saddle position is in place. Top tube length: Given this axiomatic truth, top tube length really does matter, taking into account seat tube angle and desired type and height of bar. On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 11:01 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: She bought a carbon Trek Domane, because of course she did. Interestingly, the Domane is billed as a bike for rough rides and gravel. And it is spec'ed with, I am not making this up, 700 x 25 tires. Because when you're riding off road, you absolutely want to be riding 25mm tires. I believe the bike allows enormously huge 28mm tires too. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Albuquerque, NM, USA Resumes, LinkedIn Profiles, and Letters that get interviews. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ -- Albuquerque, NM, USA Resumes, LinkedIn Profiles, and Letters that get interviews. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2
I saw the new rider and her new bike today. I said, Wow, what a pretty bike! On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: One more remark: last summer, an older gent brought in a Specialize Roubaix Di2 in for a computer. It was rigged with cheap rattrap pedals and (on the carbon fiber post) a cheap post-mounted rack with a cheap rack bag. I sneered and snickered only to learn that the rider loved it and, two, that it had been given him by the original buyer who, thanks to progressing neurological disease, could no longer ride -- anything. I felt bad, as I should have. After all, the recipient (in his own words) loved it. On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I was at first going to say of this woman's purchase, she was sold a bill of goods and perhaps she was; our entire way of life consists largely in being sold a bill of goods by one interest group or another -- their interest instead of ours. (Rivendell, on the other hand, seems to me to really have the cyclist's interest, as understood by Grant, at heart.) I do hate the garbage that is spewed to sell bikes, in particular, regardless of the buyer's best interests. Still, perhaps the Domane will suit her. Do we know it won't? At least she is on a road bike, and I for one see room for many more road bike types than just the Sam Hill. Perhaps she'll enjoy it? After all, Trek sells a huge number of bikes and not all their buyers can possibly be unhappy dupes, right? Nod to other posts: Saddle setback. There is an ideal saddle setback (ie, compared to the bb shell) for each rider that is entirely, nay existentially, independent of anything else about the bike, and the rest of the bike has to be designed, or adapted, to compensate for any other variable that is not ideal once this saddle position is in place. Top tube length: Given this axiomatic truth, top tube length really does matter, taking into account seat tube angle and desired type and height of bar. On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 11:01 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: She bought a carbon Trek Domane, because of course she did. Interestingly, the Domane is billed as a bike for rough rides and gravel. And it is spec'ed with, I am not making this up, 700 x 25 tires. Because when you're riding off road, you absolutely want to be riding 25mm tires. I believe the bike allows enormously huge 28mm tires too. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Albuquerque, NM, USA Resumes, LinkedIn Profiles, and Letters that get interviews. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ -- Albuquerque, NM, USA Resumes, LinkedIn Profiles, and Letters that get interviews. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Who's riding a 55 Sam?
I have had nothing but good experiences with Jared in email exchanges on the subject of my Sam Hillborne. I am 5'9 and have a PBH of 81cm (call me stumpy). I purchased my SH through Jared in the former size option of 52cm (last generation, blue models sizing) and am very happy with the bike and service I have received. I believe the current generation of Sams have reverted to an attractive green hue. I did purchase the frame and albatross build kit. Here is Sam Hillbornehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/20853610@N05/11557982066/on a phenomenally warm Christmas day. Best regards, Tom On Friday, January 31, 2014 7:55:29 PM UTC-8, rcnute wrote: The Hillborne as a touring bike thread got me thinking. Plus I love the blue. For those of ye riding a 55, what are yer vital stats? I'm 5'9, 84cm PBH. Yes, I know the 55 should fit... but the TT was too long on an older 56 I tried once and so I'm wondering if the 55 hopefully shrunk a bit. I run bars at or just below saddle height. Thanks folks! Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Looking for my first Rivendell
I just ordered a Hunqapillar. Test road one a few weeks ago. Although a bit heavy (felt like 25 lbs, but Im sure it was over 30) it handled and rode very nice, didn't feel bearish at all (unloaded). I really really liked it. I bought it specifically to be my all around bike (commuting about the same miles, solo road rides, and a second set of wheels with fatter tires for the trails, no touring). I'm sure the Sam is good too, didn't ride it, but didn't want or need it. Like you, I finally had the money to get a Rivendell, and after years of riding a Rivendell like bikes, the Hunq seemed to fit the bill of a bike I totally don't need just perfectly. That being said, I have a nice Gunnar Sport rode specific bike, and a dedicated mtn. bike, this is for 'everything else', but wouldn't be suprised if I found myself reaching for the Hunq more often than not. Just be prepared to wait a long time for it to be built (not sure if that is the same as the Sam). On Friday, January 31, 2014 10:31:32 AM UTC-8, Mike K. wrote: Hi everyone, I've been admiring Rivendell's website and the various Flickr pages associated with it for a few years now. This year looks like I should finally be able to buy one. I have a few bikes now that I have set up as near a Rivendell as I can, but they're just not what I'm looking for (probably all psychological, but still). I'm torn between the Sam Hillborne and the Hunqapillar. I don't do any touring now, but that's largely due to not having a bike to do it. I have plenty of friends who go bike camping now that I'm in Texas, and am looking forward to it this summer. Upwards of 30 miles each way, fully loaded with camping gear, food, etc. for a few days' trip. Mostly, though, I am a commuter. About 4 miles each way. I have a commuter now, a 1984 Cannondale 56cm ST300 frame with an SR Apex 30/44/48 Triple front and a 12-32 8-speed Cassette in the back, 35mm Bontrager Commuter tires with Longboard fenders, Nitto Mustache bars with bar ends and a Nitto Technomic Stem, and a Daija Rear Rack I bought from VO. It's a good bike, but just a tad small and I'm not comfortable loading even for the camping trips. I would be all-in for the Hunqa, except I'm concerned about it being a bear to just ride around with a light load or unloaded if I was heading out for a day ride around town, which points me to the Sam. Plus the Sam is a good bit cheaper these days, but I would move a good deal of components from the Cannondale to the new frame. Anyway, sorry for the word vomit. My point: anyone have experience with these two as far as handling? I'd love a Hunqa. I think it's a real beauty, diaga-tube and all. I'm 6' even with longish legs. Around an 89 PBH, so I'd be looking at a 58cm in either bike, 2tt on the Sam, diaga-tube on the Hunqa. I'm just afraid it's too beefy for just riding around. Any help is much appreciated. Cheers, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2
A wise man with the initials GP once wrote (well, actually, he's written it a few times): Compliment other people's bikes, especially if they're new. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com Twitter: @campyonlyguy On Feb 1, 2014, at 7:36 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: One more remark: last summer, an older gent brought in a Specialize Roubaix Di2 in for a computer. It was rigged with cheap rattrap pedals and (on the carbon fiber post) a cheap post-mounted rack with a cheap rack bag. I sneered and snickered only to learn that the rider loved it and, two, that it had been given him by the original buyer who, thanks to progressing neurological disease, could no longer ride -- anything. I felt bad, as I should have. After all, the recipient (in his own words) loved it. On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I was at first going to say of this woman's purchase, she was sold a bill of goods and perhaps she was; our entire way of life consists largely in being sold a bill of goods by one interest group or another -- their interest instead of ours. (Rivendell, on the other hand, seems to me to really have the cyclist's interest, as understood by Grant, at heart.) I do hate the garbage that is spewed to sell bikes, in particular, regardless of the buyer's best interests. Still, perhaps the Domane will suit her. Do we know it won't? At least she is on a road bike, and I for one see room for many more road bike types than just the Sam Hill. Perhaps she'll enjoy it? After all, Trek sells a huge number of bikes and not all their buyers can possibly be unhappy dupes, right? Nod to other posts: Saddle setback. There is an ideal saddle setback (ie, compared to the bb shell) for each rider that is entirely, nay existentially, independent of anything else about the bike, and the rest of the bike has to be designed, or adapted, to compensate for any other variable that is not ideal once this saddle position is in place. Top tube length: Given this axiomatic truth, top tube length really does matter, taking into account seat tube angle and desired type and height of bar. On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 11:01 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: She bought a carbon Trek Domane, because of course she did. Interestingly, the Domane is billed as a bike for rough rides and gravel. And it is spec'ed with, I am not making this up, 700 x 25 tires. Because when you're riding off road, you absolutely want to be riding 25mm tires. I believe the bike allows enormously huge 28mm tires too. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Albuquerque, NM, USA Resumes, LinkedIn Profiles, and Letters that get interviews. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ -- Albuquerque, NM, USA Resumes, LinkedIn Profiles, and Letters that get interviews. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] FS: 68 CM Quickbeam. 1500.00
Well I can't even give it away. Guess I'll have to baby wipe it and make it look pretty, then take some new photos. Sorry but I'm not going to pay you to take it.. :) Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2
Granted, they're not the best for gravel, but 700x25 tires look pretty darn wide to most cyclists, who are used to seeing 700x20 or 23 tires. I have a set on the Motobecane that I purchased from Patrick in ABQ, and I've had people ask me if they are 30-something in width. Going from 700x20 to 700x25 isn't getting you all the way to a set of 42mm-wide Grand Bois, but it's a step in the right direction and plenty wide for most people, who will probably do 99.9% of their riding on smooth pavement. Maybe having a bike that will accommodate 700x28 will encourage this person to try those out ... and I can testify based on personal experience that 700x28 is a pretty darn good tire size as well. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com Twitter: @campyonlyguy On Feb 1, 2014, at 7:36 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Interestingly, the Domane is billed as a bike for rough rides and gravel. And it is spec'ed with, I am not making this up, 700 x 25 tires. Because when you're riding off road, you absolutely want to be riding 25mm tires. I believe the bike allows enormously huge 28mm tires too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] FS - 64cm Atlantis
Dang, that's a cool bike! Looks great. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
