Re: [RBW] Blinking Dyno Rear Light

2014-10-10 Thread Goshen Peter
I believe the European standard is to have a solid light and it would
appear as if most of these come from over yonder. I for one have never seen
a dyno light that blinks. Now the whole solid v blinking debate i will stay
out of

On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Meade Anderson meade.ander...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Folks
 Is there a dyno rear light that blinks?  All the ones I've seen are
 solid/continuously on...
 Thanks
 Meade

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[RBW] Re: Dynohub wheelset WITH GOODIES!

2014-10-10 Thread Andrew Marchant-Shapiro
Sorry--yes, I should have specified:  700C they are.

On Thursday, October 9, 2014 10:59:54 PM UTC-4, Shawn Granton wrote:

 What size are the wheels? 700C?
 -Shawn


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[RBW] Re: Your Bleriot with front rack and P-clamps works good?

2014-10-10 Thread Ron Mc
One more idea, use the long Nitto stays and reach for the drop-out lug 
(this is an M-18)  

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/aaPB210003.jpg

http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/rh1-20077.htm

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/aPC310001_zps0b48a01f.jpg
  

I'm using long M5s and leather washers to space the stays, but Riv makes a 
neat little thick aluminum washer for this 
 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/rh1-20232.htm


On Thursday, October 9, 2014 10:52:54 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote:

 Thanks for the info y'all! Sounds good!


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Re: [RBW] Blinking Dyno Rear Light

2014-10-10 Thread Matthew J
 I believe the European standard is to have a solid light

This is correct.  Perhaps there is a Japanese blinking dyno light?  

On Friday, October 10, 2014 2:31:54 AM UTC-5, Peter M wrote:

 I believe the European standard is to have a solid light and it would 
 appear as if most of these come from over yonder. I for one have never seen 
 a dyno light that blinks. Now the whole solid v blinking debate i will stay 
 out of

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 javascript: wrote:

 Folks
 Is there a dyno rear light that blinks?  All the ones I've seen are 
 solid/continuously on...
 Thanks
 Meade

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[RBW] Re: Dynohub wheelset WITH GOODIES!

2014-10-10 Thread Matthew J
What light[s] are you using with the Velological? 




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[RBW] Clem on the Blug

2014-10-10 Thread Leslie
It's up:

http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/99627421939/clemshots-and-impressions 



-L


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Re: [RBW] Re: Dyno light recommendation

2014-10-10 Thread Lynne Fitz
my SON28 buzz kicks in at 17mph.  I *think* my SONDelux buzzes around 24mph.  I 
wouldn't describe it as rough pavement.  More as a RRRrrr feeling.

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[RBW] Re: Dynohub wheelset WITH GOODIES!

2014-10-10 Thread Andrew Marchant-Shapiro
Edelux (Mark I) and Pixeo.  They work fine.

On Friday, October 10, 2014 9:06:14 AM UTC-4, Matthew J wrote:

 What light[s] are you using with the Velological? 




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Re: [RBW] Re: Dyno light recommendation

2014-10-10 Thread Jim Bronson
I only very occasionally note an extremely faint vibration on the SON
Deluxe.  This was not the case with the classic SON 28 can style, or
the Shimano dynohubs.  They vibrate a lot.

On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net wrote:
 my SON28 buzz kicks in at 17mph.  I *think* my SONDelux buzzes around 24mph.  
 I wouldn't describe it as rough pavement.  More as a RRRrrr feeling.

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Re: [RBW] Clem on the Blug

2014-10-10 Thread Aaron Young
Looks good.  Surprised pleasantly that it has cantilevers.  Also those
chain stays look long and awesome.  Are the seat stays bowed or is that a
camera artifact?

Excited to see the colors and wish I could ride it.  :)

Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

On Friday, October 10, 2014, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's up:

 http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/99627421939/clemshots-and-impressions



 -L


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[RBW] Re: Clem on the Blug

2014-10-10 Thread iamkeith
Wow.  I eat my words.  it IS as nice as what I'd conjured up in my head!   
Trying to make out some details and put some things together:  so the 
napkin rings are reinforcements at the top and bottom of the 
headtube, and the  top tube and down tube are tigged?   Neat look.  Maybe 
the hooded/breezer/wright/ibis style rear dropout too?  Can't make out 
detail at the bottom bracket. For some reason, I'm only seeing one photo.  
Are there more out there to see  (ie:  clemshots plural)?

Get in line behind me!  :-)

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[RBW] Re: Clem on the Blug

2014-10-10 Thread Edwin W
Grant, let me help you with your questions (yes, I know you weren't asking 
me directly, and that they were not really questions):

   - No bottle mounts. I thik that’s kind of neat, but it’s not neat if 
   it’s a dealkiller, and it will surely be that for somebody, so on they’ll 
   go. 
   - Good! Because you know many of your riders will go on long meandering 
  rides. And drink at the same time.
   - we might turn the rear fender mount down 90 deg. A case can be made 
   either way.
   - For the fenders you sell, it is easier if it is facing backwards.
   - raise the upper rack mounts 20mm? Probably, but no bigge if we don’t.
   - No bigge to me. (We New Yorkers like biggie, like the notorious 
  one.)
   - move the kickstand plate forward almost an inch. So there’s a balance 
   of clearance.
   - Balance is good.
   - the binder bolt cavity is an odd surprise. 
   - Let's not have TOO many surprises - keep this standard like other 
  bikes, please, even if it does fit a very common bolt.
   
Other things:

   - Can we have two eyelet's up front - rack and fender, please? 
   Mid-fork's might not be necessary with canti studs there for the asking.
   - If you are selling them complete only, you should have a dyno upgrade 
   option (since you have that big box of dyno-hubs lying around).
   - Where's the shifter going? Thumbie on bar?
   - I like a lot of the details
  - 1x8 - makes sense, shifts great.
  - Nice 'n' wide tires
   - Pre-sale???

Looking forward to watching this develop,

Edwin

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[RBW] Your Bleriot with front rack and P-clamps works good?

2014-10-10 Thread Kainalu
Since there's an outside chance you or somebody from the future might be 
thinking of low rider racks, tubus makes a mega ultra bomber clamp-on mount 
with 5 mm threads. It's the next best thing to brazing some custom bosses in 
place. Maybe the best thing if you're brazing skills aren't.
-Kai

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Re: [RBW] Re: Dyno light recommendation

2014-10-10 Thread Andrew Marchant-Shapiro
My Shimano DynoHub (which is for sale along with its wheel) vibrates 
noticeably at rather high speeds (30 MPH+) when the headlight is engaged 
(tried it on a downhill once).  Aside from that, it doesn't.

On Friday, October 10, 2014 10:32:18 AM UTC-4, Jim Bronson wrote:

 I only very occasionally note an extremely faint vibration on the SON 
 Deluxe.  This was not the case with the classic SON 28 can style, or 
 the Shimano dynohubs.  They vibrate a lot. 

 On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Lynne Fitz fitz...@comcast.net 
 javascript: wrote: 
  my SON28 buzz kicks in at 17mph.  I *think* my SONDelux buzzes around 
 24mph.  I wouldn't describe it as rough pavement.  More as a RRRrrr 
 feeling. 
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem on the Blug

2014-10-10 Thread Eric Platt
Like it enuf to think about selling my LHT to get one.

For bottle mounts how about just one set. Bare seat tube.

Would also prefer black or a rusty bike color.  Less obvious to bad folk.

Eric Platt
On Oct 10, 2014 9:47 AM, Edwin W dweenda...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Grant, let me help you with your questions (yes, I know you weren't asking
 me directly, and that they were not really questions):

- No bottle mounts. I thik that’s kind of neat, but it’s not neat if
it’s a dealkiller, and it will surely be that for somebody, so on they’ll
go.
- Good! Because you know many of your riders will go on long
   meandering rides. And drink at the same time.
- we might turn the rear fender mount down 90 deg. A case can be made
either way.
- For the fenders you sell, it is easier if it is facing backwards.
- raise the upper rack mounts 20mm? Probably, but no bigge if we don’t.
- No bigge to me. (We New Yorkers like biggie, like the notorious
   one.)
- move the kickstand plate forward almost an inch. So there’s a
balance of clearance.
- Balance is good.
- the binder bolt cavity is an odd surprise.
- Let's not have TOO many surprises - keep this standard like other
   bikes, please, even if it does fit a very common bolt.

 Other things:

- Can we have two eyelet's up front - rack and fender, please?
Mid-fork's might not be necessary with canti studs there for the asking.
- If you are selling them complete only, you should have a dyno
upgrade option (since you have that big box of dyno-hubs lying around).
- Where's the shifter going? Thumbie on bar?
- I like a lot of the details
   - 1x8 - makes sense, shifts great.
   - Nice 'n' wide tires
- Pre-sale???

 Looking forward to watching this develop,

 Edwin

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[RBW] Re: Your Bleriot with front rack and P-clamps works good?

2014-10-10 Thread Ron Mc
The Tubus mounts are much nicer than normal p-clamps, here the small size 
on my old Raleigh to mount Nitto rear rack
(strips of inner tube beneath) 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/700c/aaP5260002.jpg

bikebagshop carries the Tubus hardware  
https://www.bikebagshop.com/tubus-seat-stay-mount-p-1035.html   and so does 
thetouringstore 
http://www.thetouringstore.com/TUBUS/Fit%20Solutions/FIT%20SOLUTIONS%20PAGE.htm


On Friday, October 10, 2014 9:51:35 AM UTC-5, Kainalu wrote:

 Since there's an outside chance you or somebody from the future might be 
 thinking of low rider racks, tubus makes a mega ultra bomber clamp-on mount 
 with 5 mm threads. It's the next best thing to brazing some custom bosses 
 in place. Maybe the best thing if you're brazing skills aren't.
 -Kai

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fender matching

2014-10-10 Thread Patrick Moore
$45 shipped and they are yours; you can even pick the color.

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 Send me whichever pair you don't use. Shipped to 94606!

 -J

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Where is there a place for you to be? No place.*
* Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to
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somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fender matching

2014-10-10 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks, Mike -- they do look good on the BF. (Needless to say, the photo
link worked if I cut and pasted.)

On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote:

 Patrick, Pat's Betty came with the cream fenders and I thought they looked
 nice enough to use them as a replacement for a broken Honjo on my blue
 ram.  I haven't been as thrilled  with them on the ram, but maybe its just
 too big a change after 9 years with honjos.

 I tried to attach a jpeg file, but, as always it gets rejected as too
 large.  Haven't figured out how to work around that so created a Fliker
 file. here
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/15303397740/lightbox/

 Michael

 On Thursday, October 9, 2014 11:59:39 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Or, at any rate, fretting about fender color.

 I bought 2 pr Longboards, one in basic SKS grey (they're British) for the
 blue Ram, and one in pretty cream for the Riv commuter. Both are 700c X 45.

 Well, I just lucked into a great score: 650B pr of 45 mm Berthouds, so I
 have one pair too many of the SKS's.

 Question: which will go better with the Ram Blue, the standard grey or
 the cream? Any photos of either combination? My own opinion is the grey,
 but I'm somewhat color blind.*

 At any rate, I may have a pair of NIP SKS Longboards for sale in the near
 future.

 * I just had cataract surgery in my right eye. The results, thank the
 Deity, are more than satisfactory. What amazed me is not the mere
 improvement in visual accuracy -- the capacity to see detail at a distance;
 it is the tremendous increase in the quantity and quality of light, so that
 even with what had been my good eye, things appear yellow, as if in an
 old, faded sepia photograph seen through a dusty glass cover. The
 experience gives immediacy to the parable, The eye is the light of the
 body: if thine eye be whole, thy whole body will be filed with light and
 its intended analogical reference to the light of the eye of the heart. I
 say, it gave this analogical parable a very concrete reality. I plan to get
 my other two eyes done too, God willing.

 (My color vision is still sub-par.)

 Patrick Moore, in surprisingly rainy, for early October, ABQ, NM, where
 we are getting far more than our usual annual 7 or so on the westside.

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 in your time and your body can they be?*
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 Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where
 Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of
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  * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never
was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it.
Where is there a place for you to be? No place.*
* Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to
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it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fender matching

2014-10-10 Thread Patrick Moore
And that looks good, too!

On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Toshi Takeuchi tto...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ha!  I have a blue Ram with grey fenders and ranger tan bags!

 Toshi


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/42771204@N00/8176967200/in/photolist-dsz6t7-p3Q5n4


 On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:

 Patrick, either color would work with the blue.  If you have other gray
 components, bags or Thin Gripster pedals, the gray would look better.
 If you're opting for ranger tan bags, I think the cream would look
 better.


 On Thursday, October 9, 2014 10:59:39 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Or, at any rate, fretting about fender color.

 I bought 2 pr Longboards, one in basic SKS grey (they're British) for
 the blue Ram, and one in pretty cream for the Riv commuter. Both are 700c X
 45.

 Well, I just lucked into a great score: 650B pr of 45 mm Berthouds, so I
 have one pair too many of the SKS's.

 Question: which will go better with the Ram Blue, the standard grey or
 the cream? Any photos of either combination? My own opinion is the grey,
 but I'm somewhat color blind.*

 At any rate, I may have a pair of NIP SKS Longboards for sale in the
 near future.

 * I just had cataract surgery in my right eye. The results, thank the
 Deity, are more than satisfactory. What amazed me is not the mere
 improvement in visual accuracy -- the capacity to see detail at a distance;
 it is the tremendous increase in the quantity and quality of light, so that
 even with what had been my good eye, things appear yellow, as if in an
 old, faded sepia photograph seen through a dusty glass cover. The
 experience gives immediacy to the parable, The eye is the light of the
 body: if thine eye be whole, thy whole body will be filed with light and
 its intended analogical reference to the light of the eye of the heart. I
 say, it gave this analogical parable a very concrete reality. I plan to get
 my other two eyes done too, God willing.

 (My color vision is still sub-par.)

 Patrick Moore, in surprisingly rainy, for early October, ABQ, NM, where
 we are getting far more than our usual annual 7 or so on the westside.

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 never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from
 it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.*
 * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to
 look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind
 it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into
 somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your
 daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is
 all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was
 any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there,
 because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where
 in your time and your body can they be?*
 * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried.
 Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where
 Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of
 you can find it?” -- *Flannery O'Connor,* Wise Blood  *

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was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it.
Where is there 

Re: [RBW] Re: Fender matching

2014-10-10 Thread Patrick Moore
I *mean,* on the *Ram.*

On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks, Mike -- they do look good on the BF. (Needless to say, the photo
 link worked if I cut and pasted.)

 On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Patrick, Pat's Betty came with the cream fenders and I thought they
 looked nice enough to use them as a replacement for a broken Honjo on my
 blue ram.  I haven't been as thrilled  with them on the ram, but maybe its
 just too big a change after 9 years with honjos.

 I tried to attach a jpeg file, but, as always it gets rejected as too
 large.  Haven't figured out how to work around that so created a Fliker
 file. here
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/15303397740/lightbox/

 Michael

 On Thursday, October 9, 2014 11:59:39 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Or, at any rate, fretting about fender color.

 I bought 2 pr Longboards, one in basic SKS grey (they're British) for
 the blue Ram, and one in pretty cream for the Riv commuter. Both are 700c X
 45.

 Well, I just lucked into a great score: 650B pr of 45 mm Berthouds, so I
 have one pair too many of the SKS's.

 Question: which will go better with the Ram Blue, the standard grey or
 the cream? Any photos of either combination? My own opinion is the grey,
 but I'm somewhat color blind.*

 At any rate, I may have a pair of NIP SKS Longboards for sale in the
 near future.

 * I just had cataract surgery in my right eye. The results, thank the
 Deity, are more than satisfactory. What amazed me is not the mere
 improvement in visual accuracy -- the capacity to see detail at a distance;
 it is the tremendous increase in the quantity and quality of light, so that
 even with what had been my good eye, things appear yellow, as if in an
 old, faded sepia photograph seen through a dusty glass cover. The
 experience gives immediacy to the parable, The eye is the light of the
 body: if thine eye be whole, thy whole body will be filed with light and
 its intended analogical reference to the light of the eye of the heart. I
 say, it gave this analogical parable a very concrete reality. I plan to get
 my other two eyes done too, God willing.

 (My color vision is still sub-par.)

 Patrick Moore, in surprisingly rainy, for early October, ABQ, NM, where
 we are getting far more than our usual annual 7 or so on the westside.

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 never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from
 it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.*
 * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to
 look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind
 it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into
 somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your
 daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is
 all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was
 any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there,
 because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where
 in your time and your body can they be?*
 * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried.
 Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where
 Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of
 you can find it?” -- *Flannery O'Connor,* Wise Blood  *

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 it. You 

Re: [RBW] Re: SONdelux or Shutter Precision SV-8 Dynamo Hub?

2014-10-10 Thread Steven Frederick
I sure did! (get a wheel shadow)  Didn't like it at all.  I now have it
mounted in the front of my front basket on a Paul's stem cap mount-works
pretty well.

Steve

On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 11:14 PM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do you all get wheel shadow from mounting to the side of racks? Is it
 annoying? I once mounted a battery light to fork and it was annoying. Maybe
 up higher by the rack isn;t as bad.

 Thanks for all this great info, you all. And I consider it Riv content
 because I wanted to hear from Riv riders on this since we have multiple
 mounting points on our bikes and because I think riv-riders are more likely
 than a mainstream USA biker to use dyno hubs.

 I am learning a lot here, so thanks again.
 Sounds like flicker is a non-issue nowadays.


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Re: [RBW] Clem on the Blug

2014-10-10 Thread iamkeith


On Friday, October 10, 2014 8:31:51 AM UTC-6, AaronY wrote:

  Are the seat stays bowed or is that a camera artifact?


They sure look curved to me.   I think it's really pretty, but you know 
what might be kind of neat about this would be the ability to vary the 
curve as necessary, to accommodate different chainstay or seattube lengths, 
if they eventually wanted to add more sizes. I had kind of thought that the 
fixed seatstay angle would be more limiting and meant that these three 
frame size / wheel size combinations were going to be it.   So, if it sells 
as well as I hope it does for them and, if one of these first sizes just 
doesn't fit, maybe there's still hope???!!   Also, I've heard mixed reviews 
as to whether you could feel any additional compliance on the Ritchey 
Plexus, that featured something like this, but it sure couldn't 
hurt.   Being long, these might exaggerate the effect.

While I'm at it, here's the only uneducated, unsolicited suggestion I might 
make:  Assuming the rear canti hanger is located WAY down the chainstays, 
it seems like the brake cable routing could be moved to the underside 
of the top tube.  That way, the cable stops would be less likely to get 
banged up.  And a smooth, snag-free top tube is always a nice thing - but 
especially if you're a guy and are riding a frame that is slightly too big.

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Re: [RBW] Clem on the Blug

2014-10-10 Thread Tom Harrop
Looks great to me. Long wheelbase, plenty of clearance. If they are going 
to be ready to ride for $1500 it's a bargain. I know they aren't going to 
come in 68 cm, but what were the sizes again?

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[RBW] Re: Clem on the Blug

2014-10-10 Thread blakcloud
So far, it is interesting. The colour is great, the flat fork crown, 
kickstand plate, the 1 x 8 speed are all things I like. I also like no 
bottle bosses, I think they ruin the aesthetic of the bike. I know I am a 
minority in this regard. Surprised about the cantilever brakes and they 
curved seat stays, not my style. 

I think a bike at this price point is a great idea. Not lets just see more 
of it. 




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Re: [RBW] Clem on the Blug

2014-10-10 Thread iamkeith


On Friday, October 10, 2014 10:04:37 AM UTC-6, Tom Harrop wrote:

  I know they aren't going to come in 68 cm, but what were the sizes again?


From the Blug:

*There will be three sizes and three wheel sizes: 45/26…52/27.5…59/29. So, 
twenty-six, 650B, and 700C, all with tubby tire clearance. Their may be a 
Clementine, too.* 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem on the Blug

2014-10-10 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
I think this would be the *perfect *replacement for the ubiquitous LHT. 
In my experience, most people w/ a Trucker use it as a commuter/all-rounder 
rather than a touring bike. 
This would be a better looking if not better performing alternative!!!
As long as that price point can be held, it is a game-changer.
It definitively needs at least one set of bottle mounts though. 


On Friday, October 10, 2014 8:03:29 AM UTC-7, EricP wrote:

 Like it enuf to think about selling my LHT to get one.

 For bottle mounts how about just one set. Bare seat tube.  

 Would also prefer black or a rusty bike color.  Less obvious to bad folk.

 Eric Platt
 On Oct 10, 2014 9:47 AM, Edwin W dween...@hotmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 Grant, let me help you with your questions (yes, I know you weren't 
 asking me directly, and that they were not really questions):

- No bottle mounts. I thik that’s kind of neat, but it’s not neat if 
it’s a dealkiller, and it will surely be that for somebody, so on they’ll 
go. 
- Good! Because you know many of your riders will go on long 
   meandering rides. And drink at the same time.
- we might turn the rear fender mount down 90 deg. A case can be made 
either way.
- For the fenders you sell, it is easier if it is facing backwards.
- raise the upper rack mounts 20mm? Probably, but no bigge if we 
don’t.
- No bigge to me. (We New Yorkers like biggie, like the notorious 
   one.)
- move the kickstand plate forward almost an inch. So there’s a 
balance of clearance.
- Balance is good.
- the binder bolt cavity is an odd surprise. 
- Let's not have TOO many surprises - keep this standard like other 
   bikes, please, even if it does fit a very common bolt.

 Other things:

- Can we have two eyelet's up front - rack and fender, please? 
Mid-fork's might not be necessary with canti studs there for the asking.
- If you are selling them complete only, you should have a dyno 
upgrade option (since you have that big box of dyno-hubs lying around).
- Where's the shifter going? Thumbie on bar?
- I like a lot of the details
   - 1x8 - makes sense, shifts great.
   - Nice 'n' wide tires
- Pre-sale???

 Looking forward to watching this develop,

 Edwin

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[RBW] Re: Clem on the Blug

2014-10-10 Thread Brian Campbell
I don't really get it but hey, I hope they sell lots of them. 

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[RBW] Re: Clem on the Blug

2014-10-10 Thread Deacon Patrick
This looks amazing, and I hope it is around when it's time to get my 
daughters' their early adulthood bikes.

Is that a granny gear that can be manually shifted to? That would be 
fantastic! The bike in the stand makes it challenging to figure out the 
upslope of the top tube.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] FS -- 56cm Bombadil

2014-10-10 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Hi, folks!  My medium blue 56cm Bombadil is for sale.  This is the first of 
what will likely be several Rivs (Bleriot, Atlantis?) of similar size that I'll 
probably put up for sale here as I try to fund a new project.

I'd be happy to sell it as a frame/fork/headset/BB, or as a complete bike.

Frame/fork/headset/BB, asking $1200 shipped.  There are some chips and rubs, no 
dents.  If I kept it I would probably have had it repainted, but I'm a bit 
fastidious about such things.  It's a great frameset.  Here's a pic:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/10492202654/in/set-72157637736975573

As a complete bike, you'd be buying a truly unique build - a single speed Bomba 
built around a beautiful wheelset using Ghisallo wooden rims, complemented by 
parts selected throughout for beauty, comfort and functionality.  Full build 
list attached, includes high-polish Bruce Gordon cantis with Paul levers, Peter 
Weigle-modified Campy front hub, White Industries ENO Eccentric rear, 
Stronglight crank with custom Bespoke Chainrings single ring, Phil Wood pedals, 
Nitto Bullmoose bars, Nitto Lugged seatpost, Berthoud rack/saddlebag combo.  It 
rides like a Riv, with plenty of Hetre comfort.  Here's a pic:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/13174275065/in/set-72157637736975573/

There are lots of other pics in my Flickr stream.  About $4500 invested.  I 
know this bike is not for everyone, but if you're interested you won't find 
another bike like it anywhere.  I don't have a clue what a bike like this is 
worth, so if you're the right buyer, make an offer for the full bike or some 
combination of frame and parts you're interested in.

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[RBW] Re: Clem on the Blug

2014-10-10 Thread Trenker

It looks like it's gradually evolving into a Surly. 

( Surlies are really good bikes. )

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Re: [RBW] Re: Your Bleriot with front rack and P-clamps works good?

2014-10-10 Thread Goshen Peter
Stupid question here, how does one measure to get the right clamps? I need
these for one of my MB2s but not so sure what size I would need. maybe I am
just having a brain fart.

On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:

 The Tubus mounts are much nicer than normal p-clamps, here the small size
 on my old Raleigh to mount Nitto rear rack
 (strips of inner tube beneath)


 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/700c/aaP5260002.jpg

 bikebagshop carries the Tubus hardware
 https://www.bikebagshop.com/tubus-seat-stay-mount-p-1035.html   and so
 does thetouringstore
 http://www.thetouringstore.com/TUBUS/Fit%20Solutions/FIT%20SOLUTIONS%20PAGE.htm


 On Friday, October 10, 2014 9:51:35 AM UTC-5, Kainalu wrote:

 Since there's an outside chance you or somebody from the future might be
 thinking of low rider racks, tubus makes a mega ultra bomber clamp-on mount
 with 5 mm threads. It's the next best thing to brazing some custom bosses
 in place. Maybe the best thing if you're brazing skills aren't.
 -Kai

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[RBW] Re: FS -- 56cm Bombadil

2014-10-10 Thread Minh
Tom, HA, i've been waiting for you to start shedding some bikes!  I think 
we are about the same size, the chart says that a 56 bomba is too big for 
me.  how'd you get over this?  bosco bars?  how's the stand-over compared 
to the atlantis?

i'm keeping an eye out for the atlantis too.  too bad you don't have a 
roadeo, that's the one i'm really looking out for


On Friday, October 10, 2014 4:06:43 PM UTC-4, Pudge wrote:

  Hi, folks!  My medium blue 56cm Bombadil is for sale.  This is the first 
 of what will likely be several Rivs (Bleriot, Atlantis?) of similar size 
 that I’ll probably put up for sale here as I try to fund a new project.

  

 I’d be happy to sell it as a frame/fork/headset/BB, or as a complete bike.

  

 *Frame/fork/headset/BB, asking $1200 shipped.*  There are some chips and 
 rubs, no dents.  If I kept it I would probably have had it repainted, but 
 I’m a bit fastidious about such things.  It’s a great frameset.  Here’s a 
 pic:

  


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/10492202654/in/set-72157637736975573

  

 As a complete bike, you’d be buying a truly unique build – a single speed 
 Bomba built around a beautiful wheelset using Ghisallo wooden rims, 
 complemented by parts selected throughout for beauty, comfort and 
 functionality.  Full build list attached, includes high-polish Bruce Gordon 
 cantis with Paul levers, Peter Weigle-modified Campy front hub, White 
 Industries ENO Eccentric rear, Stronglight crank with custom Bespoke 
 Chainrings single ring, Phil Wood pedals, Nitto Bullmoose bars, Nitto 
 Lugged seatpost, Berthoud rack/saddlebag combo.  It rides like a Riv, with 
 plenty of Hetre comfort.  Here’s a pic:

  


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[RBW] Re: FS -- 56cm Bombadil

2014-10-10 Thread Philip Williamson
Dang. That is so lovely. 
What are you planning? Whatever's coming has to be pretty spectacular.  

Philip
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On Friday, October 10, 2014 1:06:43 PM UTC-7, Pudge wrote:

  Hi, folks!  My medium blue 56cm Bombadil is for sale.  This is the first 
 of what will likely be several Rivs (Bleriot, Atlantis?) of similar size 
 that I’ll probably put up for sale here as I try to fund a new project.

  

 I’d be happy to sell it as a frame/fork/headset/BB, or as a complete bike.

  

 *Frame/fork/headset/BB, asking $1200 shipped.*  There are some chips and 
 rubs, no dents.  If I kept it I would probably have had it repainted, but 
 I’m a bit fastidious about such things.  It’s a great frameset.  Here’s a 
 pic:

  


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/10492202654/in/set-72157637736975573

  

 As a complete bike, you’d be buying a truly unique build – a single speed 
 Bomba built around a beautiful wheelset using Ghisallo wooden rims, 
 complemented by parts selected throughout for beauty, comfort and 
 functionality.  Full build list attached, includes high-polish Bruce Gordon 
 cantis with Paul levers, Peter Weigle-modified Campy front hub, White 
 Industries ENO Eccentric rear, Stronglight crank with custom Bespoke 
 Chainrings single ring, Phil Wood pedals, Nitto Bullmoose bars, Nitto 
 Lugged seatpost, Berthoud rack/saddlebag combo.  It rides like a Riv, with 
 plenty of Hetre comfort.  Here’s a pic:

  


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/13174275065/in/set-72157637736975573/

  

 There are lots of other pics in my Flickr stream.  About $4500 invested.  
 I know this bike is not for everyone, but if you’re interested you won’t 
 find another bike like it anywhere.  I don’t have a clue what a bike like 
 this is “worth”, so if you’re the right buyer, make an offer for the full 
 bike or some combination of frame and parts you’re interested in.
  
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[RBW] Re: FS -- 56cm Bombadil

2014-10-10 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Have had my eye on this for a while... too busy trying to corner the 
Quickbeam market!

On Friday, October 10, 2014 1:41:22 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:

 Dang. That is so lovely. 
 What are you planning? Whatever's coming has to be pretty spectacular.  

 Philip
 www.biketinker.com


 On Friday, October 10, 2014 1:06:43 PM UTC-7, Pudge wrote:

  Hi, folks!  My medium blue 56cm Bombadil is for sale.  This is the 
 first of what will likely be several Rivs (Bleriot, Atlantis?) of similar 
 size that I’ll probably put up for sale here as I try to fund a new project.

  

 I’d be happy to sell it as a frame/fork/headset/BB, or as a complete bike.

  

 *Frame/fork/headset/BB, asking $1200 shipped.*  There are some chips and 
 rubs, no dents.  If I kept it I would probably have had it repainted, but 
 I’m a bit fastidious about such things.  It’s a great frameset.  Here’s a 
 pic:

  


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/10492202654/in/set-72157637736975573

  

 As a complete bike, you’d be buying a truly unique build – a single speed 
 Bomba built around a beautiful wheelset using Ghisallo wooden rims, 
 complemented by parts selected throughout for beauty, comfort and 
 functionality.  Full build list attached, includes high-polish Bruce Gordon 
 cantis with Paul levers, Peter Weigle-modified Campy front hub, White 
 Industries ENO Eccentric rear, Stronglight crank with custom Bespoke 
 Chainrings single ring, Phil Wood pedals, Nitto Bullmoose bars, Nitto 
 Lugged seatpost, Berthoud rack/saddlebag combo.  It rides like a Riv, with 
 plenty of Hetre comfort.  Here’s a pic:

  


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/13174275065/in/set-72157637736975573/

  

 There are lots of other pics in my Flickr stream.  About $4500 invested.  
 I know this bike is not for everyone, but if you’re interested you won’t 
 find another bike like it anywhere.  I don’t have a clue what a bike like 
 this is “worth”, so if you’re the right buyer, make an offer for the full 
 bike or some combination of frame and parts you’re interested in.
  
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[RBW] Re: Clem on the Blug

2014-10-10 Thread Bob E
Looks great!

It's a shame that the color shown on the prototype won't be available on 
the production bikes, though; I really like it.

On Friday, October 10, 2014 9:22:27 AM UTC-4, Leslie wrote:

 It's up:

 http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/99627421939/clemshots-and-impressions 



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RE: [RBW] Re: FS -- 56cm Bombadil

2014-10-10 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Minh:

Standover is a little more generous than on my 61cm Atlantis, and both fit 
great to my taste.  But I don’t mind pretty close clearance.  I have around an 
86 or 87cm PBH.

Tom

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Subject: [RBW] Re: FS -- 56cm Bombadil

Tom, HA, i've been waiting for you to start shedding some bikes!  I think we 
are about the same size, the chart says that a 56 bomba is too big for me.  
how'd you get over this?  bosco bars?  how's the stand-over compared to the 
atlantis?

i'm keeping an eye out for the atlantis too.  too bad you don't have a roadeo, 
that's the one i'm really looking out for


On Friday, October 10, 2014 4:06:43 PM UTC-4, Pudge wrote:
Hi, folks!  My medium blue 56cm Bombadil is for sale.  This is the first of 
what will likely be several Rivs (Bleriot, Atlantis?) of similar size that I’ll 
probably put up for sale here as I try to fund a new project.

I’d be happy to sell it as a frame/fork/headset/BB, or as a complete bike.

Frame/fork/headset/BB, asking $1200 shipped.  There are some chips and rubs, no 
dents.  If I kept it I would probably have had it repainted, but I’m a bit 
fastidious about such things.  It’s a great frameset.  Here’s a pic:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/10492202654/in/set-72157637736975573

As a complete bike, you’d be buying a truly unique build – a single speed Bomba 
built around a beautiful wheelset using Ghisallo wooden rims, complemented by 
parts selected throughout for beauty, comfort and functionality.  Full build 
list attached, includes high-polish Bruce Gordon cantis with Paul levers, Peter 
Weigle-modified Campy front hub, White Industries ENO Eccentric rear, 
Stronglight crank with custom Bespoke Chainrings single ring, Phil Wood pedals, 
Nitto Bullmoose bars, Nitto Lugged seatpost, Berthoud rack/saddlebag combo.  It 
rides like a Riv, with plenty of Hetre comfort.  Here’s a pic:

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RE: [RBW] Re: FS -- 56cm Bombadil

2014-10-10 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
I’ve got one of those – make me an offer! ;-)

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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: FS -- 56cm Bombadil

Have had my eye on this for a while... too busy trying to corner the Quickbeam 
market!

On Friday, October 10, 2014 1:41:22 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:
Dang. That is so lovely.
What are you planning? Whatever's coming has to be pretty spectacular.

Philip
www.biketinker.comhttp://www.biketinker.com


On Friday, October 10, 2014 1:06:43 PM UTC-7, Pudge wrote:
Hi, folks!  My medium blue 56cm Bombadil is for sale.  This is the first of 
what will likely be several Rivs (Bleriot, Atlantis?) of similar size that I’ll 
probably put up for sale here as I try to fund a new project.

I’d be happy to sell it as a frame/fork/headset/BB, or as a complete bike.

Frame/fork/headset/BB, asking $1200 shipped.  There are some chips and rubs, no 
dents.  If I kept it I would probably have had it repainted, but I’m a bit 
fastidious about such things.  It’s a great frameset.  Here’s a pic:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/10492202654/in/set-72157637736975573

As a complete bike, you’d be buying a truly unique build – a single speed Bomba 
built around a beautiful wheelset using Ghisallo wooden rims, complemented by 
parts selected throughout for beauty, comfort and functionality.  Full build 
list attached, includes high-polish Bruce Gordon cantis with Paul levers, Peter 
Weigle-modified Campy front hub, White Industries ENO Eccentric rear, 
Stronglight crank with custom Bespoke Chainrings single ring, Phil Wood pedals, 
Nitto Bullmoose bars, Nitto Lugged seatpost, Berthoud rack/saddlebag combo.  It 
rides like a Riv, with plenty of Hetre comfort.  Here’s a pic:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/13174275065/in/set-72157637736975573/

There are lots of other pics in my Flickr stream.  About $4500 invested.  I 
know this bike is not for everyone, but if you’re interested you won’t find 
another bike like it anywhere.  I don’t have a clue what a bike like this is 
“worth”, so if you’re the right buyer, make an offer for the full bike or some 
combination of frame and parts you’re interested in.

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[RBW] Re: Clem on the Blug

2014-10-10 Thread Brewster Fong

On Friday, October 10, 2014 9:26:24 AM UTC-7, blakcloud wrote:

 I also like no bottle bosses, I think they ruin the aesthetic of the bike. 
 I know I am a minority in this regard. 

OK, I'll bite, so how do you carry your water bottles? Or, are you like 
Jobst Brandt and don't bother! Instead, Jobst liked to ride without water 
bottles and stop at a store or some place for a drink. Thanks!  

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[RBW] Re: Clem on the Blug

2014-10-10 Thread jpp
I like how it looks.  But not sure about not having a bottle mount.  Is 
that a cost savings measure?  I never thought that would be cut from a 
bike.   I like it, guess people could clem up a bottle holder if needed.

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[RBW] Re: Clem on the Blug

2014-10-10 Thread Garth

I don't  get it either .  . .. . but wish them well also.

No bottle mounts though ?   If it's for style, rolleyes .   If it's for 
minimalism , shake o the head . If it's for cost saving .  . . . . it's 
not worth it !  LoL   

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem on the Blug

2014-10-10 Thread Goshen Peter
Break out the band on bottle holders of old! I think I still have a few.
On Oct 10, 2014 6:26 PM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote:


 I don't  get it either .  . .. . but wish them well also.

 No bottle mounts though ?   If it's for style, rolleyes .   If it's for
 minimalism , shake o the head . If it's for cost saving .  . . . . it's
 not worth it !  LoL 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem on the Blug

2014-10-10 Thread Deacon Patrick
Clearly Grant and Co. will be stocking CamelBaks. Grin.

With abandon,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem on the Blug

2014-10-10 Thread Trenker
It says on the blug that there will be bottle mounts. On they will go.

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS -- 56cm Bombadil

2014-10-10 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
D'oh! I'm freakishly considering that I need a green one set up with 
light-weight road regalia!

On Friday, October 10, 2014 3:01:14 PM UTC-7, Pudge wrote:

  I’ve got one of those – make me an offer! ;-)

  

 *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto:
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *
 cyclot...@gmail.com javascript:
 *Sent:* Friday, October 10, 2014 5:00 PM
 *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:
 *Subject:* [RBW] Re: FS -- 56cm Bombadil

  
  
 Have had my eye on this for a while... too busy trying to corner the 
 Quickbeam market!

 On Friday, October 10, 2014 1:41:22 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:
  
 Dang. That is so lovely. 
  
 What are you planning? Whatever's coming has to be pretty spectacular.  
  
  
  
 Philip
  
 www.biketinker.com
  


 On Friday, October 10, 2014 1:06:43 PM UTC-7, Pudge wrote:
  
 Hi, folks!  My medium blue 56cm Bombadil is for sale.  This is the first 
 of what will likely be several Rivs (Bleriot, Atlantis?) of similar size 
 that I’ll probably put up for sale here as I try to fund a new project.

  

 I’d be happy to sell it as a frame/fork/headset/BB, or as a complete bike.

  

 *Frame/fork/headset/BB, asking $1200 shipped.*  There are some chips and 
 rubs, no dents.  If I kept it I would probably have had it repainted, but 
 I’m a bit fastidious about such things.  It’s a great frameset.  Here’s a 
 pic:

  


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/10492202654/in/set-72157637736975573

  

 As a complete bike, you’d be buying a truly unique build – a single speed 
 Bomba built around a beautiful wheelset using Ghisallo wooden rims, 
 complemented by parts selected throughout for beauty, comfort and 
 functionality.  Full build list attached, includes high-polish Bruce Gordon 
 cantis with Paul levers, Peter Weigle-modified Campy front hub, White 
 Industries ENO Eccentric rear, Stronglight crank with custom Bespoke 
 Chainrings single ring, Phil Wood pedals, Nitto Bullmoose bars, Nitto 
 Lugged seatpost, Berthoud rack/saddlebag combo.  It rides like a Riv, with 
 plenty of Hetre comfort.  Here’s a pic:

  


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/13174275065/in/set-72157637736975573/

  

 There are lots of other pics in my Flickr stream.  About $4500 invested.  
 I know this bike is not for everyone, but if you’re interested you won’t 
 find another bike like it anywhere.  I don’t have a clue what a bike like 
 this is “worth”, so if you’re the right buyer, make an offer for the full 
 bike or some combination of frame and parts you’re interested in.
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem on the Blug

2014-10-10 Thread Deacon Patrick
Och! Don't tell them that, Trenker! It's fun to see how long they'll go on 
about something that isn't an issue. Well beyond Game of Thrones intrigue, 
this. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, October 10, 2014 4:45:54 PM UTC-6, Trenker wrote:

 It says on the blug that there will be bottle mounts. On they will go.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem on the Blug

2014-10-10 Thread Trenker
:-)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem on the Blug

2014-10-10 Thread Garth
We go on because we LOVE going ON about this, that and the other , whatever 
and whoever they may be   :-)  

Every post is posted because the poster LOVES it , otherwise it would not 
be ! 

and it's all Good  !  


On Friday, October 10, 2014 6:53:00 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Och! Don't tell them that, Trenker! It's fun to see how long they'll go on 
 about something that isn't an issue. Well beyond Game of Thrones intrigue, 
 this. Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Friday, October 10, 2014 4:45:54 PM UTC-6, Trenker wrote:

 It says on the blug that there will be bottle mounts. On they will go.



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Re: [RBW] Clem on the Blug

2014-10-10 Thread Eric Daume
At least two water bottles is a MUST. That clean look quickly goes away
when you have various dorky clamped on bottle holders. I often end up
carrying extra bottles for my kids when we go on family bike rides, so for
this kind of bike, more is better.

Wondering if the 59cm will be big enough for me, and wishing they had a
frameset only option, because this looks pretty darn sharp.

Eric Daume
Dublin, OH

On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's up:

 http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/99627421939/clemshots-and-impressions



 -L


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[RBW] Re: Clem on the Blug

2014-10-10 Thread blakcloud
My Sam is my commuter/errand bike, rides are very rarely over an hour, I 
don't need water for that. If I do a longer ride I throw my bottle in the 
basket up front. Now if I did longer fun rides, I might think differently. 

I see the new Clem as not a LHT wannabe as some of you do but more of a 
commuter/errand/fun bike. The 1 x 8 and long chain stays point me in the 
direction. 


On Friday, October 10, 2014 6:06:20 PM UTC-4, Brewster Fong wrote:


 On Friday, October 10, 2014 9:26:24 AM UTC-7, blakcloud wrote:

 I also like no bottle bosses, I think they ruin the aesthetic of the 
 bike. I know I am a minority in this regard. 

 OK, I'll bite, so how do you carry your water bottles? Or, are you like 
 Jobst Brandt and don't bother! Instead, Jobst liked to ride without water 
 bottles and stop at a store or some place for a drink. Thanks!  


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[RBW] Re: Clem on the Blug

2014-10-10 Thread blakcloud
On Friday, October 10, 2014 6:06:20 PM UTC-4, Brewster Fong wrote:


 On Friday, October 10, 2014 9:26:24 AM UTC-7, blakcloud wrote:

 I also like no bottle bosses, I think they ruin the aesthetic of the 
 bike. I know I am a minority in this regard. 

 *OK, I'll bite, so how do you carry your water bottles? *Or, are you like 
 Jobst Brandt and don't bother! Instead, Jobst liked to ride without water 
 bottles and stop at a store or some place for a drink. Thanks!  


I use my Sam for a commuter/errand bike, rides are rarel longer than an 
hour so I don't need water. The few times I need water I throw the bottle 
in my basket up front. If I did longer rides, I might change my mind and 
put a holder on the seat tube. 

The new Clem gives me the impression that this bike is a 
fun/errand/commuter bike. With the long stays, 1 x 8 drive train and room 
for and I am guessing here, humongous tires, hence the cantilever brakes 
points me in that direction. I think it will be a great addition to Riv's 
lineup. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem on the Blug

2014-10-10 Thread jpp
Oh I get it now, I read it a different way, like on they will go will  be 
the bottle mount lovers of the world to another bike.

On Friday, October 10, 2014 6:45:54 PM UTC-4, Trenker wrote:

 It says on the blug that there will be bottle mounts. On they will go.

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS -- 56cm Bombadil

2014-10-10 Thread Bill Lindsay
Tom knows I'm tempted to buy his cool bluey to go with my orangey. That 
would be pretty excessive to own two Bombadils.  On the other hand, I've 
been thinking about giving Riv $1225 for a Chameleon Cheviot, and I was 
going to set it up for off-roading.  Sending $1200 to Tom would be a 
comparative bargain.  

On Friday, October 10, 2014 3:46:20 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 D'oh! I'm freakishly considering that I need a green one set up with 
 light-weight road regalia!

 On Friday, October 10, 2014 3:01:14 PM UTC-7, Pudge wrote:

  I’ve got one of those – make me an offer! ;-)

  

 *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] 
 *On Behalf Of *cyclot...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Friday, October 10, 2014 5:00 PM
 *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* [RBW] Re: FS -- 56cm Bombadil

  
  
 Have had my eye on this for a while... too busy trying to corner the 
 Quickbeam market!

 On Friday, October 10, 2014 1:41:22 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:
  
 Dang. That is so lovely. 
  
 What are you planning? Whatever's coming has to be pretty spectacular.  
  
  
  
 Philip
  
 www.biketinker.com
  


 On Friday, October 10, 2014 1:06:43 PM UTC-7, Pudge wrote:
  
 Hi, folks!  My medium blue 56cm Bombadil is for sale.  This is the first 
 of what will likely be several Rivs (Bleriot, Atlantis?) of similar size 
 that I’ll probably put up for sale here as I try to fund a new project.

  

 I’d be happy to sell it as a frame/fork/headset/BB, or as a complete bike.

  

 *Frame/fork/headset/BB, asking $1200 shipped.*  There are some chips and 
 rubs, no dents.  If I kept it I would probably have had it repainted, but 
 I’m a bit fastidious about such things.  It’s a great frameset.  Here’s a 
 pic:

  


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/10492202654/in/set-72157637736975573

  

 As a complete bike, you’d be buying a truly unique build – a single speed 
 Bomba built around a beautiful wheelset using Ghisallo wooden rims, 
 complemented by parts selected throughout for beauty, comfort and 
 functionality.  Full build list attached, includes high-polish Bruce Gordon 
 cantis with Paul levers, Peter Weigle-modified Campy front hub, White 
 Industries ENO Eccentric rear, Stronglight crank with custom Bespoke 
 Chainrings single ring, Phil Wood pedals, Nitto Bullmoose bars, Nitto 
 Lugged seatpost, Berthoud rack/saddlebag combo.  It rides like a Riv, with 
 plenty of Hetre comfort.  Here’s a pic:

  


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/13174275065/in/set-72157637736975573/

  

 There are lots of other pics in my Flickr stream.  About $4500 invested.  
 I know this bike is not for everyone, but if you’re interested you won’t 
 find another bike like it anywhere.  I don’t have a clue what a bike like 
 this is “worth”, so if you’re the right buyer, make an offer for the full 
 bike or some combination of frame and parts you’re interested in.
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem on the Blug

2014-10-10 Thread BSWP
The blug post says Clemshots (plural). Are there other images, or was 
that a(nother) typo? 
It would be fun to see more shots, even Clem'shots.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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Re: [RBW] Re: Your Bleriot with front rack and P-clamps works good?

2014-10-10 Thread Ron Mc
Peter, here's a quote from the Touring Store  *Note:  *An easy way to 
measure seatstays, rack tubes and fork blade diameters is to use an 
adjustable wrench (also called a crescent wrench).  Dial it down on the 
tube, slide it off and measure the gap with a ruler -- preferably in 
millimeters, but standard is OK.  We can convert.

On Friday, October 10, 2014 3:19:03 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote:

 Stupid question here, how does one measure to get the right clamps? I need 
 these for one of my MB2s but not so sure what size I would need. maybe I am 
 just having a brain fart. 

 On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com javascript:
  wrote:

 The Tubus mounts are much nicer than normal p-clamps, here the small size 
 on my old Raleigh to mount Nitto rear rack
 (strips of inner tube beneath) 


 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/700c/aaP5260002.jpg

 bikebagshop carries the Tubus hardware  
 https://www.bikebagshop.com/tubus-seat-stay-mount-p-1035.html   and so 
 does thetouringstore 
 http://www.thetouringstore.com/TUBUS/Fit%20Solutions/FIT%20SOLUTIONS%20PAGE.htm


 On Friday, October 10, 2014 9:51:35 AM UTC-5, Kainalu wrote:

 Since there's an outside chance you or somebody from the future might be 
 thinking of low rider racks, tubus makes a mega ultra bomber clamp-on mount 
 with 5 mm threads. It's the next best thing to brazing some custom bosses 
 in place. Maybe the best thing if you're brazing skills aren't.
 -Kai

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Re: [RBW] Re: Your Bleriot with front rack and P-clamps works good?

2014-10-10 Thread Goshen Peter
Awesome, thanks Ron! This fall weather is so nice kiddo wants a ride
everyday!
On Oct 10, 2014 9:13 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:

 Peter, here's a quote from the Touring Store  *Note:  *An easy way to
 measure seatstays, rack tubes and fork blade diameters is to use an
 adjustable wrench (also called a crescent wrench).  Dial it down on the
 tube, slide it off and measure the gap with a ruler -- preferably in
 millimeters, but standard is OK.  We can convert.

 On Friday, October 10, 2014 3:19:03 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote:

 Stupid question here, how does one measure to get the right clamps? I
 need these for one of my MB2s but not so sure what size I would need. maybe
 I am just having a brain fart.

 On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com wrote:

 The Tubus mounts are much nicer than normal p-clamps, here the small
 size on my old Raleigh to mount Nitto rear rack
 (strips of inner tube beneath)


 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/700c/aaP5260002.jpg

 bikebagshop carries the Tubus hardware  https://www.bikebagshop.com/
 tubus-seat-stay-mount-p-1035.html   and so does thetouringstore
 http://www.thetouringstore.com/TUBUS/Fit%20Solutions/FIT%20SOLUTIONS%
 20PAGE.htm


 On Friday, October 10, 2014 9:51:35 AM UTC-5, Kainalu wrote:

 Since there's an outside chance you or somebody from the future might
 be thinking of low rider racks, tubus makes a mega ultra bomber clamp-on
 mount with 5 mm threads. It's the next best thing to brazing some custom
 bosses in place. Maybe the best thing if you're brazing skills aren't.
 -Kai

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[RBW] WTB/WTT: Over-the-knee knicker socks

2014-10-10 Thread Patrick Moore
I thought I would go back to tights last year, so I bought several pairs of
tights and sold my 2 good pairs of Rick's Knicker Socks. Now I want them
back. Since cash is slow, does anyone by any chance have a pair or two (I
want 2) in a neutral color (black, gray, dark brown, dark blue) to sell or
trade? Size Large.

I am looking for socks that pull up *over the knee.*

Thanks, Patrick

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[RBW] Re: WTB/WTT: Over-the-knee knicker socks

2014-10-10 Thread Patrick Moore
Wool or good plastic or any good blend thereof -- all OK.

On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 I thought I would go back to tights last year, so I bought several pairs
 of tights and sold my 2 good pairs of Rick's Knicker Socks. Now I want them
 back. Since cash is slow, does anyone by any chance have a pair or two (I
 want 2) in a neutral color (black, gray, dark brown, dark blue) to sell or
 trade? Size Large.

 I am looking for socks that pull up *over the knee.*

 Thanks, Patrick

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 never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from
 it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.*
 * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to
 look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind
 it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into
 somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your
 daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is
 all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was
 any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there,
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was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it.
Where is there a place for you to be? No place.*
* Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to
look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind
it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into
somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your
daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is
all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was
any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there,
because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where
in your time and your body can they be?*
* Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried.
Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where
Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of
you can find it?” -- *Flannery O'Connor,* Wise Blood  *

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[RBW] Re: WTB/WTT: Over-the-knee knicker socks

2014-10-10 Thread Deacon Patrick
Patrick, have you tried simply using kilt-length socks? Is there a specific 
reason you want over the knee? From years of wearing a kilt in all types of 
weather, there is very little reason to cover the knees (except when 
crawling over ice flows at -10˚F, which peals the skin right off). You may 
be able to get by with tall socks that anchor above the calf.

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Re: Your Bleriot with front rack and P-clamps works good?

2014-10-10 Thread Ron Mc
we've only had two mornings in the low 60s so far, but they're coming...

On Friday, October 10, 2014 8:24:14 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote:

 Awesome, thanks Ron! This fall weather is so nice kiddo wants a ride 
 everyday! 
 On Oct 10, 2014 9:13 PM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 Peter, here's a quote from the Touring Store  *Note:  *An easy way to 
 measure seatstays, rack tubes and fork blade diameters is to use an 
 adjustable wrench (also called a crescent wrench).  Dial it down on the 
 tube, slide it off and measure the gap with a ruler -- preferably in 
 millimeters, but standard is OK.  We can convert.

 On Friday, October 10, 2014 3:19:03 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote:

 Stupid question here, how does one measure to get the right clamps? I 
 need these for one of my MB2s but not so sure what size I would need. maybe 
 I am just having a brain fart. 

 On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com wrote:

 The Tubus mounts are much nicer than normal p-clamps, here the small 
 size on my old Raleigh to mount Nitto rear rack
 (strips of inner tube beneath) 


 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/700c/aaP5260002.jpg

 bikebagshop carries the Tubus hardware  https://www.bikebagshop.com/
 tubus-seat-stay-mount-p-1035.html   and so does thetouringstore 
 http://www.thetouringstore.com/TUBUS/Fit%20Solutions/FIT%20SOLUTIONS%
 20PAGE.htm


 On Friday, October 10, 2014 9:51:35 AM UTC-5, Kainalu wrote:

 Since there's an outside chance you or somebody from the future might 
 be thinking of low rider racks, tubus makes a mega ultra bomber clamp-on 
 mount with 5 mm threads. It's the next best thing to brazing some custom 
 bosses in place. Maybe the best thing if you're brazing skills aren't.
 -Kai

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[RBW] Re: Road Standard vs. Rambouillet?

2014-10-10 Thread rw1911
Bumping this hoping for some additional input...  


On Saturday, September 20, 2014 9:03:15 PM UTC-4, rw1911 wrote:

 Compared to my 60cm Rambouillet, a 61cm Road Standard has 1.5cm longer top 
 tube, 1cm shorter chain stays, .5 degree steeper head tube and probably 
 will only take a 32 tire.  Numbers are nice, but I'm curious if anyone has 
 first hand experience with both?  Is the ride similar?  Is one sportier, 
 stiffer, or more compliant, etc. than the other?




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[RBW] Re: Clem on the Blug

2014-10-10 Thread dougP
Someone needs to pry a Clem loose from the elves  give us a ride 
impression.  Just a tease, please?  We need to get our families primed in 
time for Christmas :).

dougP

On Friday, October 10, 2014 6:22:27 AM UTC-7, Leslie wrote:

 It's up:

 http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/99627421939/clemshots-and-impressions 



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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem on the Blug

2014-10-10 Thread Goshen Peter
Xmas maybe premature, I think I read march-april somewhere.

On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 11:37 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

 Someone needs to pry a Clem loose from the elves  give us a ride
 impression.  Just a tease, please?  We need to get our families primed in
 time for Christmas :).

 dougP


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 It's up:

 http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/99627421939/clemshots-and-impressions



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[RBW] Re: WTB: On One Midge Silver 25.4 handlebar

2014-10-10 Thread Dave Brandt
I do have new set sitting around but it is for a 31mm stem. I personally run 
with the Soma Portola because the they are approximately 3/4 longer in the 
drops and almost identical otherwise.

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[RBW] WTT: 58cm SimpleOne for similar RivenMixte

2014-10-10 Thread justinaugust
Subject says it all!

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[RBW] Does Mark's Rack have an eyelet underneath for attaching the front end of a fender?

2014-10-10 Thread lungimsam
Just wondering. Thanks for any info.

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