[RBW] Re: Yet _even more_ travel coffee questions!
That looks interesting, but I have used a Bodun travel mug with a built in coffee press. No filters,fits in a bottle cage, makes a great cup of coffee and it came in a color that matches the orange on my Hunq (priorities you know). On Sunday, November 23, 2014 12:38:05 PM UTC-5, Roger wrote: As a continuation of this last winter/spring's thread Yet more travel *coffee* questions! https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/coffee/rbw-owners-bunch/lGetc-8p6XI/ab4n60B2PwAJ, it seems the Helix Coffee Dripper http://store.oceanaircycles.com/products/helix-coffee-dripper sold by Ocean Air and others is coming onto the scene. Do any of us here have much experience with it that they could share? For myself, I don't put paper or plastic into the path of my hot coffee, so it would take a metal travel filter to make this filter holder happen, but maybe that's available ... or tinker-able (!) Still, except for the paper, I'm very intrigued by this elegant solution. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] The real reason to like Schwalbe superlight tubes
The price gets you up to latex tubes, which I've been using for 4 years. They probably don't fold up as neatly, but they ride wonderfully and are easy to patch - you just need a small tube of tubie mastik and a piece of dead tube to glue on. They do require pumping the tires every week and every time you get ready to ride. On Sunday, November 23, 2014 10:56:50 PM UTC-6, ted wrote: http://www.compasscycle.com/tires_tubes_650.html Nice to hear about the patching. On Sunday, November 23, 2014 7:05:40 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 11/23/2014 09:13 PM, ted wrote: They are so tiny. I mean they pack down really small. I fit two in my small flat fix pouch where only one regular tube fits. I do however wonder how well they work once you put a patch on one. The patch doesn't stretch like the tube does. I makes an uneven hard spot. Will that make a patched superlight tube prone to tear? I've never seen a Schwalbe Superlight tube, but I have been using their Ultralight tubes for over five years now and have patched them several times with no problems. You do have to be more careful with the sandpaper, of course, since the tube is thinner. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Disturbing Trend?
I think part of what you're seeing is inventory catching up with batch manufacturing. You can follow inventories of any brand/model of tire and see the same thing. One season no one has any in inventory, the next season there is a glut. On Saturday, November 22, 2014 8:25:56 PM UTC-6, George Schick wrote: Having begun Winter off-time maintenance on my bikes I noticed enough rim wear on the road bike to encourage me to snoop around on the Web to see what's available nowadays. One online retailer that used to carry several dozen brands/models of road rims is now listing only four. Another has far more limited offerings than it used to. And a well-known national chain/online retailer lists NO rims at all, just a pre-build wheel, and only one selection of those. I'm not sure if this has any significance or not, but it sure looks like something is causing some belt tightening in the retail industry. Any thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Winter means looking for problems that might not exist and solving them. Hence, Stem Shifters!
It may not really be a problem for taller guys, but for someone like me, stem shifters are a godsend. Short waist, long limbs and reach issues meant i had to come up with a wacky solution to make a drop-barr'd bike fit comfortably. Here's what I came up with: https://www.flickr.com/photos/bethness/sets/72157631882809483/ The photo set shows the story of the bike from craigslist purchase through rebuild to present configuration. I LOVE my stem shifters (Suntour Power Ratchet). I especially love that most folks haven't re-discovered them yet, so I can still find them for five bucks in the used parts bin at my local bike recycler. Good stuff. Beth in PDX -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Disturbing Trend?
I friended QBP on Facebook and I found that they do respond to questions on their page. Might be something they would be willing to respond to. On Nov 22, 2014 8:25 PM, George Schick bhim...@gmail.com wrote: Having begun Winter off-time maintenance on my bikes I noticed enough rim wear on the road bike to encourage me to snoop around on the Web to see what's available nowadays. One online retailer that used to carry several dozen brands/models of road rims is now listing only four. Another has far more limited offerings than it used to. And a well-known national chain/online retailer lists NO rims at all, just a pre-build wheel, and only one selection of those. I'm not sure if this has any significance or not, but it sure looks like something is causing some belt tightening in the retail industry. Any thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Winter means looking for problems that might not exist and solving them. Hence, Stem Shifters!
On 11/23/2014 10:57 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: I can only think of the one situation where you can't shift a stem shifter but can shift a barcon. I realize it's one you say that you do numerous times on every ride. You semi-rise out of the saddle on an incline, in the drops, and shift down one gear at a time as the incline steepens and then you shift up a gear at a time while you are still out of the saddle cresting the top, carrying your momentum through. You can shift a barcon because you can't stay out of the saddle and let go of the drops. You couldn't do that with a brifter, a thumbie, a downtube shifter, or a stem shifter. Only a shifter that is right there in your hand on the drops makes that possible. What are the other of many situations where it's possible to shift a barcon but not possible to shift a stem shifter? Here's one at the top of the list: You are going fast and the road is rough: alligatored, cracked, patches upon patches with small holes in between. (I don't know if you have stuff like that where you ride, but where I ride in the rural areas of Southern Maryland, there's lots and lots of it.) It's somewhat like riding on rumble strips only with the occasional bigger impact. On surfaces like that, I wouldn't venture to remove one hand from the bars and move it to the center line of the bike to shift, but with bar end shifters (and brifters, of course) you can hold on to the bar and maintain stability while shifting with your fingers or your palm. But basically, in any situation where the bike could be jostled, either from road surface roughness or from irregular, gusting side winds it would be ill-advised and sometimes downright dangerous to get yourself into the position required to operate a stem shifter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Oregon Outback and water
On 11/23/2014 10:22 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: Steve, I was, saying the lower positioned on the bike the water is, the better. I was not saying the less the better. Thanks for the clarification. I totally misunderstood what you were saying, obviously. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, November 23, 2014 8:00:26 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 11/23/2014 09:39 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: Water is the heaviest item by volume you will carry. It pays to get it as low as practicable. And water is one of the few things that if you don't have it, you can die. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: coffeeneuring
What an enjoyable account!...and so attractively presented! I liked the variety, the lovely photos, and the enjoyable feel of the bicycle outings. I think you captured the spirit of the Coffeeneuring Challenge perfectly. Here's my completely different (content and presentation) interpretation of Coffeenuering in which I used my Quickbeam or A. Homer Hilsen for all stops, except one... http://pawndero.wordpress.com/2014/11/16/coffeeneuring-journal-2014/ Chris Johnson Sanger, Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Yet _even more_ travel coffee questions!
To Roger, you said you don't put plastic or paper into the path of your coffee. Is that something that you can taste the difference in? Or an environment concern maybe? I have been refining my coffee tastes lately but I certainly cant notice a difference. I have a metal filter at home and the paper filters in my aeropress.Still in process of a nice travel coffee kit however, so I really like these coffee threads. Scott On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Roger rogerdhod...@gmail.com wrote: As a continuation of this last winter/spring's thread Yet more travel *coffee* questions! https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/coffee/rbw-owners-bunch/lGetc-8p6XI/ab4n60B2PwAJ, it seems the Helix Coffee Dripper http://store.oceanaircycles.com/products/helix-coffee-dripper sold by Ocean Air and others is coming onto the scene. Do any of us here have much experience with it that they could share? For myself, I don't put paper or plastic into the path of my hot coffee, so it would take a metal travel filter to make this filter holder happen, but maybe that's available ... or tinker-able (!) Still, except for the paper, I'm very intrigued by this elegant solution. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] OT-Bosco Rubbe......
Absolutely. I have the adult Fatboy, and it's a very fun ride. The kids' ones are $1k, but they're pretty well equipped. People hate on Specialized for several reasons, but not for making lousy bikes (they don't). And you have to give them credit for beating everyone else to the 20 and 24 fat bike niche. On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 12:50 AM, Goshen Peter uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: not exactly but I think my kid would love this thing http://www.bikeradar.com/beginners/news/article/specialized-rolls-out-fat-bikes-for-kids-43028/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Oregon Outback and water
In my experience, weight of any kind travels better when lower, though I oddly prefer the SaddleSack to panniers. It may not be a big thing for you. With my vertigo, anything that effects the handling of the bike is trip-ending. I can't carry weight above my waist, so hydration packs are out for me as an option anyway, so I can't speak to the benefit of the weight being on me above my suspension (knees/elbows), vs. on the bike below suspension. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, November 23, 2014 9:06:26 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: Why? Why should you get it low? I would have thought keeping it on your back, above the suspension (your knees) would be better. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS: Sackville Slickersack/Platrack Combo and Ruthworks Randonneur Bag
Ruthworks bag is sold. On Sunday, November 23, 2014 10:06:21 PM UTC-8, Michael Ullmer wrote: I have two bags that have seen little use over the past few months and it's time to pass them on to someone else. Sackville Slickersack/Platrack Combo - $160 shipped --I got this combo from someone else on this list. I used it for a few months but have switched over to using a shopsack and basket on my commuter bikes. I made a few modifications to the bag after I got it. First, I spraypainted the choroplast black and taped over it so the spraypaint doesn't scratch away. I liked the black background in the bag as opposed to the white. I also performed the Andy Schmidt modification and added turn clasps to the bottom of the bag instead of the regular snaps, this makes it easier to attach the bag to the rack. The stays that are included are uncut, but are slightly bent though they worked fine for me. You can see it in the pictures. Also, there are no extra included rack bolts, but these can be ordered from Riv. Ruthworks Randonneur Bag - $190 shipped --I bought this thinking it might replace my Acorn bag, but I prefer the added capacity of my Acorn Boxy Rando bag. Anyways, this bag measures 11x7x5 without the dimensions of the 3d pockets. There are 3d pockets on either side of the bag, two on the rear and one on the front. There is also a zippered pocket on the inside lid of the bag as can be seen in the picture. The bag has straps to attach it either directly to your handlebars, or it can be mounted to a rack with a decaleur as well. It has not been drilled for a decaleur yet. There is a stabilizing cord included that can go under the bag, but I didn't end up using it. It's truly a beautiful bag and should be getting use. I have a matching rear bag that I bought with this bag that I use daily, it's wonderful, Eli does some great work. https://www.flickr.com/photos/120703118@N08/sets/72157647106734773/ Contact me off-list if interested and if you have any other questions or need more pictures please let me know! Mike Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: coffeeneuring
Thanks to both of you for the thoughtful write ups! On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 5:41 AM, Pondero cj.spin...@gmail.com wrote: What an enjoyable account!...and so attractively presented! I liked the variety, the lovely photos, and the enjoyable feel of the bicycle outings. I think you captured the spirit of the Coffeeneuring Challenge perfectly. Here's my completely different (content and presentation) interpretation of Coffeenuering in which I used my Quickbeam or A. Homer Hilsen for all stops, except one... http://pawndero.wordpress.com/2014/11/16/coffeeneuring-journal-2014/ Chris Johnson Sanger, Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Yet _even more_ travel coffee questions!
I can definitely taste how paper strips the oils and bass notes out of the types of coffee I roast (Jjavas, Yemens, East africans, etc). Lighter bodied, brighter coffees may be less affected. As for plastic, it's not rational it just gives me the heeby jeebies. Not sure if I taste it. It does remind me of improvised roasting with popcorn poppers where the plastic lid would soften, deform and ultimately form plastic stalactites over the roasting bans. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Yet _even more_ travel coffee questions!
Wow iPhone Autocorrect and a bouncing bus really conspired against me in that post. sorry... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: coffeeneuring
What a grinding experience! You pour, pour, people. I'd be steamed and frothing. Almost makes me bitter and acidic, like I stewed too long in too fine a grind. Grin. Thanks for the fantastic, vicarious experience. I love seeing what you all do to meet these challenges that I'd love to give a go myself but for my brain. The luscious, sweet, smooth aroma bursts through both your posts. Thank you! With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, November 23, 2014 1:01:07 PM UTC-7, Eunice Chang wrote: For those of you who like coffee and bikes, here's my write up for this year's coffeeneuring challenge: https://sleepyneko.exposure.co/2014-coffeeneuring-challenge (Related Riv content: It features Thumper the AHH) Enjoy, -E. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Yet _even more_ travel coffee questions!
If it's any consolation, my bludgeoned brain made perfect sense of it, even if it was completely different from what you wrote. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, November 24, 2014 8:41:25 AM UTC-7, Roger wrote: Wow iPhone Autocorrect and a bouncing bus really conspired against me in that post. sorry... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Yet _even more_ travel coffee questions!
So you're the guy with the fancy metal filter always dumping the grounds down the office sink!!! ;) On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Roger rogerdhod...@gmail.com wrote: As a continuation of this last winter/spring's thread Yet more travel coffee questions!, it seems the Helix Coffee Dripper sold by Ocean Air and others is coming onto the scene. Do any of us here have much experience with it that they could share? For myself, I don't put paper or plastic into the path of my hot coffee, so it would take a metal travel filter to make this filter holder happen, but maybe that's available ... or tinker-able (!) Still, except for the paper, I'm very intrigued by this elegant solution. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)
I've been riding Grip Kings and Thin Gripsters for several years now using five.ten Impact http://fiveten.com/products/footwear-detail/13874-impact-low-team-black shoes. The charm is the sole, which has a very high coefficient of sliding friction; this translates to great foot retention on the pedal, in all weather. The five.ten people also sell sheets of this sole material, for retrofits and custom applications. I've also had good luck with New Balance Minimus MX20BR cross-training shoes; I wear these in the summer: they're light, cool, and grippy. rod On Monday, November 17, 2014 9:17:16 AM UTC-5, Surlyprof wrote: I've been using sneakers by Puma or Clarks when riding my Hillborne with either a set of MKS Grip Kings or VP Thin Gripster pedals (which I highly recommend!). My feet sometimes ache after a long ride in squishy shoes. Has anyone found a stiffer soled shoe that they like with sneaker pedals? Thanks, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Disturbing Trend?
Well, one thing I found out after doing some more in depth searching is that the particular model rim I have now is being discontinued by the manufacturer. This explains why when I found it anyplace at all it was available in only in some unique drilling like 24 holes and in limited quantities, at that. In this case it's the Velocity Aerohead OC, which is being replaced by their newer A23 OC. Looks like a good thing, too, because the width of the Aerohead was only about 20mm and the A23 is advertised at 23mm. That would be a beneficial increase as long as the new one doesn't suffer from the same cracking problems as their Synergy. But I think you're right, the rest of the shortages are probably due to the inventory/manf. cycle. Never thought about that. On Monday, November 24, 2014 7:00:49 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: I think part of what you're seeing is inventory catching up with batch manufacturing. You can follow inventories of any brand/model of tire and see the same thing. One season no one has any in inventory, the next season there is a glut. On Saturday, November 22, 2014 8:25:56 PM UTC-6, George Schick wrote: Having begun Winter off-time maintenance on my bikes I noticed enough rim wear on the road bike to encourage me to snoop around on the Web to see what's available nowadays. One online retailer that used to carry several dozen brands/models of road rims is now listing only four. Another has far more limited offerings than it used to. And a well-known national chain/online retailer lists NO rims at all, just a pre-build wheel, and only one selection of those. I'm not sure if this has any significance or not, but it sure looks like something is causing some belt tightening in the retail industry. Any thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Oregon Outback and water
A pint's a pound, which means 100 oz of water is a little over three pounds. My body weight varies by more than three pounds from week to week, and I don't notice that affects bike handling. I don't find the three pound weight on my back noticeable as far as handling is concerned. I do notice, and don't like, having a sweaty back from a water backpack, but I unfortunately have an auto-immune disease that makes me have a dry mouth, so making it easy to sip water frequently is important for me. On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 6:39 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: In my experience, weight of any kind travels better when lower, though I oddly prefer the SaddleSack to panniers. It may not be a big thing for you. With my vertigo, anything that effects the handling of the bike is trip-ending. I can't carry weight above my waist, so hydration packs are out for me as an option anyway, so I can't speak to the benefit of the weight being on me above my suspension (knees/elbows), vs. on the bike below suspension. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, November 23, 2014 9:06:26 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: Why? Why should you get it low? I would have thought keeping it on your back, above the suspension (your knees) would be better. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Oregon Outback and water
I think the longest stretch without water was about 40 miles, maybe a bit more during the night. I think the organizers carried a lot of water because they camped in places with no water. If you want to cook dinner, you'll need some extra water. I carried three large cycling water bottles. That meant that I could skip the first two places where I could have got water on or near the route. (It was an overcast day, so I didn't sweat a lot.) I refilled my bottles for the first time at mile 120. I think the ride is doable for most riders with just three bottles, even if you go slower and sweat more. You should use every opportunity to top off in some parts of the course, but it's never so remote that you'll die if you are stranded. Cars use those roads (or the one's paralleling the trail), even if infrequently. Jan Heine Editor Bicycle Quarterly www.bikequarterly.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Oregon Outback and water
Anne, The closer to the ground the weight is, the lower the center of gravity is, and the less your body's muscles are being used to correct the constant imbalances that occur on the bike and keep the bike upright. The bike will feel more stable and light. It's one of the reason that the more stable riding cargo bikes utilize small 20 wheels. It helps keep the load down low. Also, with hydration packs strapped to your back, I'm going to guess that you're going to deal with more suspension losses since the pack can jiggle around (I've never worn one so I can't really say). Keeping the heaviest weights secured tightly to the bike so they can't wiggle around reduces suspension losses. Anton On Sunday, November 23, 2014 11:06:26 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: Why? Why should you get it low? I would have thought keeping it on your back, above the suspension (your knees) would be better. On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com javascript: wrote: Water is the heaviest item by volume you will carry. It pays to get it as low as practicable. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, November 23, 2014 7:36:49 PM UTC-7, ted wrote: I think this http://epicureancyclist.com/review-msr-dromedary-and-s-biners/ looks fairly nice. On Sunday, November 23, 2014 6:26:13 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote: I don't remember. Wherever it works. Test before hand. Irish straps are beautiful! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: Nitto Campee Medium Rear Rack / Nitto Noodle Bars
A few things for sale: Used Nitto Noodle Model. 177 Handler Bar. 44cm - $30 Pix: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bop/4775684058.html Barely used Nitto Campee Medium Rear Rack. Comes with various mounting hardware.- $100 Pix: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bop/4775685351.html Can pick up locally in Fairfax, CA or San Francisco (Inner Sunset). Cash. I'll also ship but you have to pay postage. If interested, email your zip and I'll get you a price. Paypal or Square Cash. Thanks, Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS/WTT: 58cm SimpleOne
Hey Justin, Is this for frame/fork/headset? The pics have a stem and wheels and I didn't see a mention in your first post. Thanks. On Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:57:44 AM UTC-6, justin...@gmail.com wrote: $675? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Speed Wobble on Big Rivs?
Currently in the market for a lugged steel roadbike for commuting. I only use a rear rack with a basket containing 15lbs or so of stuff. Current (and past) bikes get that front end lateral shimmy/wobble at 16-18mph or faster when loaded with 200lb me and my gear on it when I ride with no hands off my drop bars. Super annoying, and problem only goes away when I put hands back on ths bars or clamp the top tube with my legs. And yes I have tried tightening my headset and stem down (amongst many other tactics). According to RBW, Im sized in the low 60's of their double top tube bikes. MY QUESTION IS: Any similar or larger Riv Riders get the front of the bike shaking when loaded rear only? Not looking to change how I ride, just want to know if buying a double top tube bike will cure this problem. Many Many Thanx !!! A- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Oregon Outback and water
The organizers assert: Water is very limited in several sections of the route. There are points of interest (POI) on the GPS link above that note the last reliable water for the most significant sections, the longest of which is ~80 miles. There are several other sections of 50+ miles without reliable water. The organizers also do not identify any water sources between Fort Rock and Prineville, a distance of 80 miles. Do you know of water between those spots? On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Jan Heine hein...@earthlink.net wrote: I think the longest stretch without water was about 40 miles, maybe a bit more during the night. I think the organizers carried a lot of water because they camped in places with no water. If you want to cook dinner, you'll need some extra water. I carried three large cycling water bottles. That meant that I could skip the first two places where I could have got water on or near the route. (It was an overcast day, so I didn't sweat a lot.) I refilled my bottles for the first time at mile 120. I think the ride is doable for most riders with just three bottles, even if you go slower and sweat more. You should use every opportunity to top off in some parts of the course, but it's never so remote that you'll die if you are stranded. Cars use those roads (or the one's paralleling the trail), even if infrequently. Jan Heine Editor Bicycle Quarterly www.bikequarterly.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Oregon Outback and water
It's three pounds! Right now I weigh more than three pounds more than my ideal cycling weight. I'd like to get rid of that weight, but I don't notice even one tiny difference in bike handling because of it. Also, in my experience-- and I wear a hydration pack every time I ride except for around town rides-- hydration packs don't shift around. They're designed not to shift around, because if they did it would be really annoying and people would hate it. On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Anton Tutter atut...@gmail.com wrote: Also, with hydration packs strapped to your back, I'm going to guess that you're going to deal with more suspension losses since the pack can jiggle around (I've never worn one so I can't really say). Keeping the heaviest weights secured tightly to the bike so they can't wiggle around reduces suspension losses. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Disturbing Trend?
George, A happy coincidence that might benefit you, too, is that the ERD of the A23 is close enough to the Aerohead to re-use spokes in some cases. I just re-laced a front with no problem and plan to try with the O/C rear when that aerohead wears out. Best, joe broach portland, or On Nov 24, 2014 8:30 AM, George Schick bhim...@gmail.com wrote: Well, one thing I found out after doing some more in depth searching is that the particular model rim I have now is being discontinued by the manufacturer. This explains why when I found it anyplace at all it was available in only in some unique drilling like 24 holes and in limited quantities, at that. In this case it's the Velocity Aerohead OC, which is being replaced by their newer A23 OC. Looks like a good thing, too, because the width of the Aerohead was only about 20mm and the A23 is advertised at 23mm. That would be a beneficial increase as long as the new one doesn't suffer from the same cracking problems as their Synergy. But I think you're right, the rest of the shortages are probably due to the inventory/manf. cycle. Never thought about that. On Monday, November 24, 2014 7:00:49 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: I think part of what you're seeing is inventory catching up with batch manufacturing. You can follow inventories of any brand/model of tire and see the same thing. One season no one has any in inventory, the next season there is a glut. On Saturday, November 22, 2014 8:25:56 PM UTC-6, George Schick wrote: Having begun Winter off-time maintenance on my bikes I noticed enough rim wear on the road bike to encourage me to snoop around on the Web to see what's available nowadays. One online retailer that used to carry several dozen brands/models of road rims is now listing only four. Another has far more limited offerings than it used to. And a well-known national chain/online retailer lists NO rims at all, just a pre-build wheel, and only one selection of those. I'm not sure if this has any significance or not, but it sure looks like something is causing some belt tightening in the retail industry. Any thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Speed Wobble on Big Rivs?
What are your current bikes? Just curious how you are getting wobble at only 18mph with a rear load. On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 12:39 AM, Lovie Cashew cashewencount...@gmail.com wrote: Currently in the market for a lugged steel roadbike for commuting. I only use a rear rack with a basket containing 15lbs or so of stuff. Current (and past) bikes get that front end lateral shimmy/wobble at 16-18mph or faster when loaded with 200lb me and my gear on it when I ride with no hands off my drop bars. Super annoying, and problem only goes away when I put hands back on ths bars or clamp the top tube with my legs. And yes I have tried tightening my headset and stem down (amongst many other tactics). According to RBW, Im sized in the low 60's of their double top tube bikes. MY QUESTION IS: Any similar or larger Riv Riders get the front of the bike shaking when loaded rear only? Not looking to change how I ride, just want to know if buying a double top tube bike will cure this problem. Many Many Thanx !!! A- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Speed Wobble on Big Rivs?
I get shimmy no-hands starting at about 15 mph on both my 2003 custom and my Ram; both 58 c-c (32 mm and 29 mm tires respectively). Not on my (very narrow and light tired) '99 custom. On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Lovie Cashew cashewencount...@gmail.com wrote: Currently in the market for a lugged steel roadbike for commuting. I only use a rear rack with a basket containing 15lbs or so of stuff. Current (and past) bikes get that front end lateral shimmy/wobble at 16-18mph or faster when loaded with 200lb me and my gear on it when I ride with no hands off my drop bars. Super annoying, and problem only goes away when I put hands back on ths bars or clamp the top tube with my legs. And yes I have tried tightening my headset and stem down (amongst many other tactics). According to RBW, Im sized in the low 60's of their double top tube bikes. MY QUESTION IS: Any similar or larger Riv Riders get the front of the bike shaking when loaded rear only? Not looking to change how I ride, just want to know if buying a double top tube bike will cure this problem. Many Many Thanx !!! A- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *[I]n exploring the physical universe man has made no attempt to explore himself. Much of what goes by the name of pleasure is simply an effort to destroy consciousness. If one started by asking, what is man? what are his needs? how can he best express himself? one would discover that merely having the power to avoid work and live one’s life from birth to death in electric light and to the tune of tinned music is not a reason for doing so.”* * -- George Orwell, Pleasure Spots* *Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not money, I am become as a sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not money, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not money, it profiteth me nothing. Money suffereth long, and it is kind; money envieth not; money vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, doth not behave unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; beareth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. . . . And now abideth faith, hope, money, these three; but the greatest of these is money. * * -- George Orwell, Keep The Apidistra Flying* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: New to me Atlantis
Congrats, Chris. Love the big-tire look. Atlantis is a beauty. On Saturday, November 22, 2014 4:05:00 PM UTC-5, Pondero wrote: After years of resisting a persistent Atlantis craving, I finally gave in and purchased one that included a little beausage. Since my partial build is now on hold waiting for more parts, there's nothing to do but share a couple of partial build photos...and try to replace impatience with eager anticipation... https://www.flickr.com/photos/28889177@N06/15853217122/in/photostream/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/28889177@N06/15828023196/in/photostream/ This acquisition rounds out my quiver. The Quickbeam primarily has city duty, the A. Homer Hilsen will see the most use on my typical weekend rural road rides, and the Atlantis will be for the occasional rough stuff bike. I can easily load up any of them for a picnic or an S24O. Just about perfect for me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Disturbing Trend?
Joe - those were my thoughts, exactly! From looking at the A23 cross-section drawing on the Velocity web site, I think the rear spokes will fit, too. Makes things much easier (and less costly) On Monday, November 24, 2014 11:51:34 AM UTC-6, joe b. wrote: George, A happy coincidence that might benefit you, too, is that the ERD of the A23 is close enough to the Aerohead to re-use spokes in some cases. I just re-laced a front with no problem and plan to try with the O/C rear when that aerohead wears out. Best, joe broach portland, or On Nov 24, 2014 8:30 AM, George Schick bhi...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Well, one thing I found out after doing some more in depth searching is that the particular model rim I have now is being discontinued by the manufacturer. This explains why when I found it anyplace at all it was available in only in some unique drilling like 24 holes and in limited quantities, at that. In this case it's the Velocity Aerohead OC, which is being replaced by their newer A23 OC. Looks like a good thing, too, because the width of the Aerohead was only about 20mm and the A23 is advertised at 23mm. That would be a beneficial increase as long as the new one doesn't suffer from the same cracking problems as their Synergy. But I think you're right, the rest of the shortages are probably due to the inventory/manf. cycle. Never thought about that. On Monday, November 24, 2014 7:00:49 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: I think part of what you're seeing is inventory catching up with batch manufacturing. You can follow inventories of any brand/model of tire and see the same thing. One season no one has any in inventory, the next season there is a glut. On Saturday, November 22, 2014 8:25:56 PM UTC-6, George Schick wrote: Having begun Winter off-time maintenance on my bikes I noticed enough rim wear on the road bike to encourage me to snoop around on the Web to see what's available nowadays. One online retailer that used to carry several dozen brands/models of road rims is now listing only four. Another has far more limited offerings than it used to. And a well-known national chain/online retailer lists NO rims at all, just a pre-build wheel, and only one selection of those. I'm not sure if this has any significance or not, but it sure looks like something is causing some belt tightening in the retail industry. Any thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Speed Wobble on Big Rivs?
I don't ride no-handed, but I do not get shimmy on my 62cm Hunqapillar (diagitube) when bikepacking, at that includes sustained descents I'd estimate at 40+ mph. When I tried front loads other than the small TrunkSack, I would get shimmy fairly quickly. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Oregon Outback and water
There's a difference between 3 lbs of rider weight and 3 lbs of accessory weight. The 3 lb of rider weight is distributed throughout the body, and as it accumulated, your musculature also adapted to deal with that extra weight. The point is, any weight that is loose and can wiggle is going to be noticed a lot more on the bike than if it doesn't. And the lower it is on the bike, the less it will impact your balance and handling of the bike. If the hydration pack doesn't shift around, great. On Monday, November 24, 2014 12:28:11 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: It's three pounds! Right now I weigh more than three pounds more than my ideal cycling weight. I'd like to get rid of that weight, but I don't notice even one tiny difference in bike handling because of it. Also, in my experience-- and I wear a hydration pack every time I ride except for around town rides-- hydration packs don't shift around. They're designed not to shift around, because if they did it would be really annoying and people would hate it. On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Anton Tutter atu...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Also, with hydration packs strapped to your back, I'm going to guess that you're going to deal with more suspension losses since the pack can jiggle around (I've never worn one so I can't really say). Keeping the heaviest weights secured tightly to the bike so they can't wiggle around reduces suspension losses. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Oregon Outback and water
Actually your math is off. 100oz is about 3L, or 3kg, or a little over 6 pounds. I have used a 3L hydration pack on 200K and 300K rides, but would probably not like it on a multiple day ride. --Metin On Monday, November 24, 2014 8:39:18 AM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote: A pint's a pound, which means 100 oz of water is a little over three pounds. My body weight varies by more than three pounds from week to week, and I don't notice that affects bike handling. I don't find the three pound weight on my back noticeable as far as handling is concerned. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Oregon Outback and water
You're right, it's six pounds not three. A pint's a pound, but a liter is more or less a quart which is two pints. That was a stupid mistake for me to make. A quick eyeballing of bikepacking pictures shows the majority of bikepackers wearing packs. But YMMV. For me, if I'm not using panniers, which I don't on my Krampus, I just don't have a huge amount of storage space on the bike. A hydration pack is the most convenient place to store my water. On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Metin Uz uz.me...@gmail.com wrote: Actually your math is off. 100oz is about 3L, or 3kg, or a little over 6 pounds. I have used a 3L hydration pack on 200K and 300K rides, but would probably not like it on a multiple day ride. --Metin On Monday, November 24, 2014 8:39:18 AM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote: A pint's a pound, which means 100 oz of water is a little over three pounds. My body weight varies by more than three pounds from week to week, and I don't notice that affects bike handling. I don't find the three pound weight on my back noticeable as far as handling is concerned. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Oregon Outback and water
There are a bunch of campgrounds about 10 miles or so before Prineville in the canyon of the Crooked River. There were tons of people camping there, and I would be very surprised if they didn't have water. There were some farms about half-way between Fort Rock and Prineville. Assuming they aren't abandoned, you probably could get water there in an emergency. You also cross a major highway around there. It may be worth while investigating whether that highway gets you to a town sooner, in case you really are running low. I didn't stop during that stretch, except to take a few photos, so my experience is limited. In any case, it's a splendid adventure, but there are also some stretches that are a little monotonous. As you pass Fort Rock, you are going straight toward the horizon for a few hours... Jan Heine Editor Bicycle Quarterly www.bikequarterly.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ On Monday, November 24, 2014 9:24:33 AM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote: The organizers assert: Water is very limited in several sections of the route. There are points of interest (POI) on the GPS link above that note the last reliable water for the most significant sections, the longest of which is ~80 miles. There are several other sections of 50+ miles without reliable water. The organizers also do not identify any water sources between Fort Rock and Prineville, a distance of 80 miles. Do you know of water between those spots? On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Jan Heine hei...@earthlink.net javascript: wrote: I think the longest stretch without water was about 40 miles, maybe a bit more during the night. I think the organizers carried a lot of water because they camped in places with no water. If you want to cook dinner, you'll need some extra water. I carried three large cycling water bottles. That meant that I could skip the first two places where I could have got water on or near the route. (It was an overcast day, so I didn't sweat a lot.) I refilled my bottles for the first time at mile 120. I think the ride is doable for most riders with just three bottles, even if you go slower and sweat more. You should use every opportunity to top off in some parts of the course, but it's never so remote that you'll die if you are stranded. Cars use those roads (or the one's paralleling the trail), even if infrequently. Jan Heine Editor Bicycle Quarterly www.bikequarterly.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Oregon Outback and water
Riders wear large hydration packs for the entire Continental Divide race. If the pack fits well and one is accustomed to wearing it, it won't cause a problem even if theoretically the weight is better down lower. Jeez, the nits people will pick on this list. jim m wc ca On Monday, November 24, 2014 10:49:11 AM UTC-8, Metin Uz wrote: Actually your math is off. 100oz is about 3L, or 3kg, or a little over 6 pounds. I have used a 3L hydration pack on 200K and 300K rides, but would probably not like it on a multiple day ride. --Metin On Monday, November 24, 2014 8:39:18 AM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote: A pint's a pound, which means 100 oz of water is a little over three pounds. My body weight varies by more than three pounds from week to week, and I don't notice that affects bike handling. I don't find the three pound weight on my back noticeable as far as handling is concerned. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Disturbing Trend?
Side question: Typically how close do ERDs need to be in order to re-use spokes? I'd like to replace my CR18s (ERD 612) with WTB Chriscross (ERD 604) in order to go tubeless. Close enough or outside of tolerance? On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 10:10 AM, George Schick bhim...@gmail.com wrote: Joe - those were my thoughts, exactly! From looking at the A23 cross-section drawing on the Velocity web site, I think the rear spokes will fit, too. Makes things much easier (and less costly) On Monday, November 24, 2014 11:51:34 AM UTC-6, joe b. wrote: George, A happy coincidence that might benefit you, too, is that the ERD of the A23 is close enough to the Aerohead to re-use spokes in some cases. I just re-laced a front with no problem and plan to try with the O/C rear when that aerohead wears out. Best, joe broach portland, or On Nov 24, 2014 8:30 AM, George Schick bhi...@gmail.com wrote: Well, one thing I found out after doing some more in depth searching is that the particular model rim I have now is being discontinued by the manufacturer. This explains why when I found it anyplace at all it was available in only in some unique drilling like 24 holes and in limited quantities, at that. In this case it's the Velocity Aerohead OC, which is being replaced by their newer A23 OC. Looks like a good thing, too, because the width of the Aerohead was only about 20mm and the A23 is advertised at 23mm. That would be a beneficial increase as long as the new one doesn't suffer from the same cracking problems as their Synergy. But I think you're right, the rest of the shortages are probably due to the inventory/manf. cycle. Never thought about that. On Monday, November 24, 2014 7:00:49 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: I think part of what you're seeing is inventory catching up with batch manufacturing. You can follow inventories of any brand/model of tire and see the same thing. One season no one has any in inventory, the next season there is a glut. On Saturday, November 22, 2014 8:25:56 PM UTC-6, George Schick wrote: Having begun Winter off-time maintenance on my bikes I noticed enough rim wear on the road bike to encourage me to snoop around on the Web to see what's available nowadays. One online retailer that used to carry several dozen brands/models of road rims is now listing only four. Another has far more limited offerings than it used to. And a well-known national chain/online retailer lists NO rims at all, just a pre-build wheel, and only one selection of those. I'm not sure if this has any significance or not, but it sure looks like something is causing some belt tightening in the retail industry. Any thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Disturbing Trend?
No way to reuse spokes when rim ERDs are off by 8mm. Spoke lengths will be too long by almost half of the ERD difference, or 4mm in this case. Now, if you already had extra long nipples and slightly too short spokes, then maybe it would work... I would say +/-4mm ERD difference may be OK if the original spokes are just the right size. --Metin On Monday, November 24, 2014 11:06:09 AM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Side question: Typically how close do ERDs need to be in order to re-use spokes? I'd like to replace my CR18s (ERD 612) with WTB Chriscross (ERD 604) in order to go tubeless. Close enough or outside of tolerance? On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 10:10 AM, George Schick bhi...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Joe - those were my thoughts, exactly! From looking at the A23 cross-section drawing on the Velocity web site, I think the rear spokes will fit, too. Makes things much easier (and less costly) On Monday, November 24, 2014 11:51:34 AM UTC-6, joe b. wrote: George, A happy coincidence that might benefit you, too, is that the ERD of the A23 is close enough to the Aerohead to re-use spokes in some cases. I just re-laced a front with no problem and plan to try with the O/C rear when that aerohead wears out. Best, joe broach portland, or On Nov 24, 2014 8:30 AM, George Schick bhi...@gmail.com wrote: Well, one thing I found out after doing some more in depth searching is that the particular model rim I have now is being discontinued by the manufacturer. This explains why when I found it anyplace at all it was available in only in some unique drilling like 24 holes and in limited quantities, at that. In this case it's the Velocity Aerohead OC, which is being replaced by their newer A23 OC. Looks like a good thing, too, because the width of the Aerohead was only about 20mm and the A23 is advertised at 23mm. That would be a beneficial increase as long as the new one doesn't suffer from the same cracking problems as their Synergy. But I think you're right, the rest of the shortages are probably due to the inventory/manf. cycle. Never thought about that. On Monday, November 24, 2014 7:00:49 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: I think part of what you're seeing is inventory catching up with batch manufacturing. You can follow inventories of any brand/model of tire and see the same thing. One season no one has any in inventory, the next season there is a glut. On Saturday, November 22, 2014 8:25:56 PM UTC-6, George Schick wrote: Having begun Winter off-time maintenance on my bikes I noticed enough rim wear on the road bike to encourage me to snoop around on the Web to see what's available nowadays. One online retailer that used to carry several dozen brands/models of road rims is now listing only four. Another has far more limited offerings than it used to. And a well-known national chain/online retailer lists NO rims at all, just a pre-build wheel, and only one selection of those. I'm not sure if this has any significance or not, but it sure looks like something is causing some belt tightening in the retail industry. Any thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Oregon Outback and water
Yeah. Folks who wear a backpack baffle me. I did a ride with a friend who didn't have panniers, so he brought a quality running pack to cary his gear for the day. Have the weight op that high annoyed him to no end, and he test rode without it and felt an amazing difference. All with about 10 pounds of stuff. I have no idea how the folks wearing full backpacking packs when bikepacking do it. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Speed Wobble on Big Rivs?
I've experienced shimmy/steering wobble riding my 66cm Ram at speed downhill, no-hands. I like a lot of setback, so I'm positioned in a rear-weighted fashion, and I'm likely carrying a small load on the bars and a small-ish load under the saddle. KJ On Monday, November 24, 2014 12:39:13 AM UTC-5, Lovie Cashew wrote: Currently in the market for a lugged steel roadbike for commuting. I only use a rear rack with a basket containing 15lbs or so of stuff. Current (and past) bikes get that front end lateral shimmy/wobble at 16-18mph or faster when loaded with 200lb me and my gear on it when I ride with no hands off my drop bars. Super annoying, and problem only goes away when I put hands back on ths bars or clamp the top tube with my legs. And yes I have tried tightening my headset and stem down (amongst many other tactics). According to RBW, Im sized in the low 60's of their double top tube bikes. MY QUESTION IS: Any similar or larger Riv Riders get the front of the bike shaking when loaded rear only? Not looking to change how I ride, just want to know if buying a double top tube bike will cure this problem. Many Many Thanx !!! A- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Oregon Outback and water
They don't wear full backpacking packs, typically. They wear packs designed for cyclists, like these: http://www.rei.com/product/847872/camelbak-mule-hydration-pack-100-fl-oz http://shop.camelbak.com/hawg-nv/d/1003_cl_3900 http://shop.camelbak.com/volt-13-lr/d/1247_cl_3426 http://www.ospreypacks.com/en/product/mens_1_1/raptor_14_1 I happen to have a Camelbak HAWG and a Camelback Volt and have worn each one on numerous rides. I've not noticed any difference in handling of the bike. They're fine. Where I live, a lot of people wear hydration packs when they're riding off road. This is not unusual or strange. On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Yeah. Folks who wear a backpack baffle me. I did a ride with a friend who didn't have panniers, so he brought a quality running pack to cary his gear for the day. Have the weight op that high annoyed him to no end, and he test rode without it and felt an amazing difference. All with about 10 pounds of stuff. I have no idea how the folks wearing full backpacking packs when bikepacking do it. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Oregon Outback and water
I know, and I don't get those, either. But I've seen bikepackers with full packs before. None of them understand my set up either, so it works out. I get odd questions like How do you fit through the narrow trails? when the SaddleSack is no wider than my body on the bike. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, November 24, 2014 12:56:50 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: They don't wear full backpacking packs, typically. They wear packs designed for cyclists, like these: http://www.rei.com/product/847872/camelbak-mule-hydration-pack-100-fl-oz http://shop.camelbak.com/hawg-nv/d/1003_cl_3900 http://shop.camelbak.com/volt-13-lr/d/1247_cl_3426 http://www.ospreypacks.com/en/product/mens_1_1/raptor_14_1 I happen to have a Camelbak HAWG and a Camelback Volt and have worn each one on numerous rides. I've not noticed any difference in handling of the bike. They're fine. Where I live, a lot of people wear hydration packs when they're riding off road. This is not unusual or strange. On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com javascript: wrote: Yeah. Folks who wear a backpack baffle me. I did a ride with a friend who didn't have panniers, so he brought a quality running pack to cary his gear for the day. Have the weight op that high annoyed him to no end, and he test rode without it and felt an amazing difference. All with about 10 pounds of stuff. I have no idea how the folks wearing full backpacking packs when bikepacking do it. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Oregon Outback and water
Hmm, riding around NYC I had the backpack full of crap for years. Once you get used to it its really not a big deal. Now you if you just throw one on for a ride for the first time year its gonna be different, sore shoulders, weird pack moving sensation and the like but it only took me a couple of weeks to get used to. My only issue with the camelback is I am really sweaty and it made my back sweat more and it was really gross. On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: I know, and I don't get those, either. But I've seen bikepackers with full packs before. None of them understand my set up either, so it works out. I get odd questions like How do you fit through the narrow trails? when the SaddleSack is no wider than my body on the bike. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, November 24, 2014 12:56:50 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: They don't wear full backpacking packs, typically. They wear packs designed for cyclists, like these: http://www.rei.com/product/847872/camelbak-mule-hydration-pack-100-fl-oz http://shop.camelbak.com/hawg-nv/d/1003_cl_3900 http://shop.camelbak.com/volt-13-lr/d/1247_cl_3426 http://www.ospreypacks.com/en/product/mens_1_1/raptor_14_1 I happen to have a Camelbak HAWG and a Camelback Volt and have worn each one on numerous rides. I've not noticed any difference in handling of the bike. They're fine. Where I live, a lot of people wear hydration packs when they're riding off road. This is not unusual or strange. On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote: Yeah. Folks who wear a backpack baffle me. I did a ride with a friend who didn't have panniers, so he brought a quality running pack to cary his gear for the day. Have the weight op that high annoyed him to no end, and he test rode without it and felt an amazing difference. All with about 10 pounds of stuff. I have no idea how the folks wearing full backpacking packs when bikepacking do it. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Cold weather water ideas - how to stop freezing bottles?
To the northerners here - what are your solutions for keeping water from freezing on long winter rides? I'm mean when it's real cold, -10C to -35C. I've tried it all - insulated water bottles (works for a little while), insulated sleeves around insulated water bottles (works better than just bottles, but still has limits), and my personal favourite, pouring a bunch of bourbon into your water (kinda works I think, but maybe I just drank it all before it had a chance to freeze..). I'm planning a 160km ride over Christmas break up to my family's cabin. It will be cold, with stops approx every 40km. So I could just not drink any water other than at the stops, but that isn't ideal. Any home-brew solutions out there? I had also thought of insulating my Swift Ozette bag with some heat reflecting material and air bubble wrap, sealing it relatively tight and throwing a hand warmer in there (assuming there is enough air movement to keep the chemical reaction going). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Cold weather water ideas - how to stop freezing bottles?
Wine? It never froze going skiing, but again maybe we drank it too fast On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Mark Reimer marknrei...@gmail.com wrote: To the northerners here - what are your solutions for keeping water from freezing on long winter rides? I'm mean when it's real cold, -10C to -35C. I've tried it all - insulated water bottles (works for a little while), insulated sleeves around insulated water bottles (works better than just bottles, but still has limits), and my personal favourite, pouring a bunch of bourbon into your water (kinda works I think, but maybe I just drank it all before it had a chance to freeze..). I'm planning a 160km ride over Christmas break up to my family's cabin. It will be cold, with stops approx every 40km. So I could just not drink any water other than at the stops, but that isn't ideal. Any home-brew solutions out there? I had also thought of insulating my Swift Ozette bag with some heat reflecting material and air bubble wrap, sealing it relatively tight and throwing a hand warmer in there (assuming there is enough air movement to keep the chemical reaction going). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Cold weather water ideas - how to stop freezing bottles?
That's a great idea, hah! Kinda reminds me of the documentary Big River Man, which follows Martin Strel as he swam the entire Amazon River. I recall he 'hydrated' himself predominantly with Red Wine. He also went a bit loopy by the end though. Maybe I'll stay away from that... On Monday, November 24, 2014 3:14:52 PM UTC-6, Peter M wrote: Wine? It never froze going skiing, but again maybe we drank it too fast On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Mark Reimer markn...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: To the northerners here - what are your solutions for keeping water from freezing on long winter rides? I'm mean when it's real cold, -10C to -35C. I've tried it all - insulated water bottles (works for a little while), insulated sleeves around insulated water bottles (works better than just bottles, but still has limits), and my personal favourite, pouring a bunch of bourbon into your water (kinda works I think, but maybe I just drank it all before it had a chance to freeze..). I'm planning a 160km ride over Christmas break up to my family's cabin. It will be cold, with stops approx every 40km. So I could just not drink any water other than at the stops, but that isn't ideal. Any home-brew solutions out there? I had also thought of insulating my Swift Ozette bag with some heat reflecting material and air bubble wrap, sealing it relatively tight and throwing a hand warmer in there (assuming there is enough air movement to keep the chemical reaction going). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Disturbing Trend?
I was presuming 8mm would be too much to re-use. I'm really getting the bug to go tubeless, so might have to invest in the new spokes as well. Thanks! On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Metin Uz uz.me...@gmail.com wrote: No way to reuse spokes when rim ERDs are off by 8mm. Spoke lengths will be too long by almost half of the ERD difference, or 4mm in this case. Now, if you already had extra long nipples and slightly too short spokes, then maybe it would work... I would say +/-4mm ERD difference may be OK if the original spokes are just the right size. --Metin On Monday, November 24, 2014 11:06:09 AM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Side question: Typically how close do ERDs need to be in order to re-use spokes? I'd like to replace my CR18s (ERD 612) with WTB Chriscross (ERD 604) in order to go tubeless. Close enough or outside of tolerance? On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 10:10 AM, George Schick bhi...@gmail.com wrote: Joe - those were my thoughts, exactly! From looking at the A23 cross-section drawing on the Velocity web site, I think the rear spokes will fit, too. Makes things much easier (and less costly) On Monday, November 24, 2014 11:51:34 AM UTC-6, joe b. wrote: George, A happy coincidence that might benefit you, too, is that the ERD of the A23 is close enough to the Aerohead to re-use spokes in some cases. I just re-laced a front with no problem and plan to try with the O/C rear when that aerohead wears out. Best, joe broach portland, or On Nov 24, 2014 8:30 AM, George Schick bhi...@gmail.com wrote: Well, one thing I found out after doing some more in depth searching is that the particular model rim I have now is being discontinued by the manufacturer. This explains why when I found it anyplace at all it was available in only in some unique drilling like 24 holes and in limited quantities, at that. In this case it's the Velocity Aerohead OC, which is being replaced by their newer A23 OC. Looks like a good thing, too, because the width of the Aerohead was only about 20mm and the A23 is advertised at 23mm. That would be a beneficial increase as long as the new one doesn't suffer from the same cracking problems as their Synergy. But I think you're right, the rest of the shortages are probably due to the inventory/manf. cycle. Never thought about that. On Monday, November 24, 2014 7:00:49 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: I think part of what you're seeing is inventory catching up with batch manufacturing. You can follow inventories of any brand/model of tire and see the same thing. One season no one has any in inventory, the next season there is a glut. On Saturday, November 22, 2014 8:25:56 PM UTC-6, George Schick wrote: Having begun Winter off-time maintenance on my bikes I noticed enough rim wear on the road bike to encourage me to snoop around on the Web to see what's available nowadays. One online retailer that used to carry several dozen brands/models of road rims is now listing only four. Another has far more limited offerings than it used to. And a well-known national chain/online retailer lists NO rims at all, just a pre-build wheel, and only one selection of those. I'm not sure if this has any significance or not, but it sure looks like something is causing some belt tightening in the retail industry. Any thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal
[RBW] Re: Cold weather water ideas - how to stop freezing bottles?
Alcohol aside (given the ramifications for a breach in judgement are magnified exponentially in extreme cold, I wouldn't choose to imbibe while riding), using body heat to keep water from freezing is the only way I know. So, on the bike a CamelBak bladder under your jacket, with the straw sticking out just near your collar? The option I go for on full day winter excursions is that I know I will get warm enough that eating snow is no big deal. So I don't carry water and thaw it as I need it. Not a great plan unless you trust the snow quality. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Campee Medium Rear Rack / Nitto Noodle Bars
The rack is SOLD. Thank you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Cold weather water ideas - how to stop freezing bottles?
If you have a sweet tooth, or a salty tooth, you could try adding a lot of sugar or salt to your water. Any solute when dissolved in water acts as an antifreeze by reducing the melting point. Now, I highly doubt you can make a beverage sweet enough or salty enough to still liquid at the temps you're proposing AND be able to drink it without getting ill, or at least grossed out. But it may enable you to ride longer and further before it does freeze. Anton Tutter, who is currently trying to reduce both his sugar and his salt intake On Monday, November 24, 2014 4:13:03 PM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote: To the northerners here - what are your solutions for keeping water from freezing on long winter rides? I'm mean when it's real cold, -10C to -35C. I've tried it all - insulated water bottles (works for a little while), insulated sleeves around insulated water bottles (works better than just bottles, but still has limits), and my personal favourite, pouring a bunch of bourbon into your water (kinda works I think, but maybe I just drank it all before it had a chance to freeze..). I'm planning a 160km ride over Christmas break up to my family's cabin. It will be cold, with stops approx every 40km. So I could just not drink any water other than at the stops, but that isn't ideal. Any home-brew solutions out there? I had also thought of insulating my Swift Ozette bag with some heat reflecting material and air bubble wrap, sealing it relatively tight and throwing a hand warmer in there (assuming there is enough air movement to keep the chemical reaction going). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Cold weather water ideas - how to stop freezing bottles?
Or how about some type of solar heater? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cold weather water ideas - how to stop freezing bottles?
On 11/24/2014 04:52 PM, Anton Tutter wrote: Or how about some type of solar heater? I'm sure a creative type could figure a way of making use of those chemical warming pads people put in the gloves and socks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Cold weather water ideas - how to stop freezing bottles?
I have been very impressed with the insulation capabilities of the Kleen Kanteen insulated line. I have put ice and water in it and had it out all day in the Nashville heat, and the cubes were still formed many hours later. I haven't tested it the other way, keeping things unfrozen in freezing temperatures for that long, but I would try hot water in there and bet you get 40km without it freezing. http://www.kleankanteen.com/collections/insulated Edwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Thanks From the RBW Family to Yours
Any bicycle company that quotes Meister Eckhart can't be all bad Keep it up, Rivendell! And happy Thanksgiving! On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Rivendell Bicycle Works no-re...@rivbike.com wrote: We're grateful for another good year. View this email in your browser ( http://us1.campaign-archive1.com/?u=2090e897f8c7f8d7170a52bbdid=2f6e414de5e=706fe9c1c5 ) If the only prayer you said in your whole life was, 'Thank you,' that would suffice. -Johannes Eckhart ** Thanks We're all so grateful to our customers for keeping this ship afloat here in Walnut Creek for twenty years. It's been great fortune to have a business that makes fun things, somehow able to survive the slings and arrows of the recession, new competitors, the internet, international currency fluctuations, price-competition, defamation and tithes to the taxman. Business is good, and we're trying to do good business. We'll keep it up in years to come. But it'd all be nothing without your orders. Thank you. ** Laid Back Fry ** Black Friday used to be a bad thing. To gild refined gold, to paint the lily, to throw a perfume on the violet, to smooth the ice... is wasteful and ridiculous excess. - Shakespeare Long before it became a shopping holiday the phrase Black Friday in America referred to financial panic of September 24, 1869 when two of the most rottenest Tammany Hall Robber Barons (with others collectively known as the Riv-sounding Tweed Ring) cornered the gold market, sent prices plummeting (see our header image) and ruined many a good fortune for others. Your gold? Worthless! Moohaha! Ulysses S. Grant, the great Union Army General of the Civil War was president during this period, known as the Gilded Age. Despite his resounding success as an Army General, he was a stupendously bad U.S. Prez, getting duped by seemingly everyone while trying to fix the broken country--resulting in various financial panics, corruption charges, etc. Afterwards, when he was broke and dying of throat cancer (in the picture above), even publishers were trying to scam him into bad deals for writing a book. Mark Twain came to the rescue and scored him a deal letting his family keep 75% of the royalties from the memoir. I read it, it's great! He was a horse guy through and through, but any bike-people or otherwise ramblin-folk out there will enjoy the early parts where he's touring around the South and Mexico with his buddies on horseback, camping out, climbing volcanoes, roughing it. They covered a lot of ground. Don't forget to check out our Holiday Flyer PDF online ( https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzo7-V-zcAdRekZaVDcwbWFvU0k/view) . Some of the prices are wrong, but hey we're not perfect. Lots of gifty things like books and saws for people that don't like bikes yet. ** The Changing Colors of Autumn Bagmatchers Alert!! As Grant noted in the Blug ( http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/103234297799/joe-appaloosa-etc-bikes-for-2015-projex-well) , the cotton fabric on our Sackville Bags will be different colors come spring. SO if you like tan or olive Sackville bags ( http://www.rivbike.com/Bike-Bags-s/37.htm) , act soon. They'll be different colors for at least a year, not saying yet what those new colors are. Also check the blug for the Sam Hillborne anagram contest! http://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Feepurl.com%2F9hU35 Share ( http://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Feepurl.com%2F9hU35 ) http://us1.forward-to-friend.com/forward?u=2090e897f8c7f8d7170a52bbdid=2f6e414de5e=706fe9c1c5 Forward ( http://us1.forward-to-friend.com/forward?u=2090e897f8c7f8d7170a52bbdid=2f6e414de5e=706fe9c1c5 ) ** Coupon Code Not my circus, not my monkeys, not my problem. - Polish Idiom It's the busiest shopping day of the year Friday, but we'll be closed like we always do (Thursday too). You can avoid the crowds, hey! by shopping with us online. Place a web order on our site between now and December 8 using coupon code: ** thanks for 6% off an entire order between $50 and $800. We reopen Saturday here with Harry Joe and Scott. Bike, Book Hatchet has extended hours too. Come visit, and feel free to call down there 925 937-7334. As always we appreciate any feedback. 800-345-3918 Phones are open Mon-Sat 10am-4pm PST. Copyright © 2014 Rivendell Bicycle Works, All rights reserved. At some point, you signed up or opted in. Click the unsubscribe link if you want out. No hard feelings. Link around here somewhere. Our mailing
[RBW] Re: Thanks From the RBW Family to Yours
Any bicycle company that quotes Meister Eckhart can't be all bad Keep it up, Rivendell! And happy Thanksgiving! Patrick Moore, who just picked up his holiday flyer at the PO, riding his 75 fixed '99 gofast in hilly, windy Rio Rancho, NM. On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Rivendell Bicycle Works no-re...@rivbike.com wrote: We're grateful for another good year. View this email in your browser ( http://us1.campaign-archive1.com/?u=2090e897f8c7f8d7170a52bbdid=2f6e414de5e=706fe9c1c5 ) If the only prayer you said in your whole life was, 'Thank you,' that would suffice. -Johannes Eckhart ** Thanks We're all so grateful to our customers for keeping this ship afloat here in Walnut Creek for twenty years. It's been great fortune to have a business that makes fun things, somehow able to survive the slings and arrows of the recession, new competitors, the internet, international currency fluctuations, price-competition, defamation and tithes to the taxman. Business is good, and we're trying to do good business. We'll keep it up in years to come. But it'd all be nothing without your orders. Thank you. ** Laid Back Fry ** Black Friday used to be a bad thing. To gild refined gold, to paint the lily, to throw a perfume on the violet, to smooth the ice... is wasteful and ridiculous excess. - Shakespeare Long before it became a shopping holiday the phrase Black Friday in America referred to financial panic of September 24, 1869 when two of the most rottenest Tammany Hall Robber Barons (with others collectively known as the Riv-sounding Tweed Ring) cornered the gold market, sent prices plummeting (see our header image) and ruined many a good fortune for others. Your gold? Worthless! Moohaha! Ulysses S. Grant, the great Union Army General of the Civil War was president during this period, known as the Gilded Age. Despite his resounding success as an Army General, he was a stupendously bad U.S. Prez, getting duped by seemingly everyone while trying to fix the broken country--resulting in various financial panics, corruption charges, etc. Afterwards, when he was broke and dying of throat cancer (in the picture above), even publishers were trying to scam him into bad deals for writing a book. Mark Twain came to the rescue and scored him a deal letting his family keep 75% of the royalties from the memoir. I read it, it's great! He was a horse guy through and through, but any bike-people or otherwise ramblin-folk out there will enjoy the early parts where he's touring around the South and Mexico with his buddies on horseback, camping out, climbing volcanoes, roughing it. They covered a lot of ground. Don't forget to check out our Holiday Flyer PDF online ( https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzo7-V-zcAdRekZaVDcwbWFvU0k/view) . Some of the prices are wrong, but hey we're not perfect. Lots of gifty things like books and saws for people that don't like bikes yet. ** The Changing Colors of Autumn Bagmatchers Alert!! As Grant noted in the Blug ( http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/103234297799/joe-appaloosa-etc-bikes-for-2015-projex-well) , the cotton fabric on our Sackville Bags will be different colors come spring. SO if you like tan or olive Sackville bags ( http://www.rivbike.com/Bike-Bags-s/37.htm) , act soon. They'll be different colors for at least a year, not saying yet what those new colors are. Also check the blug for the Sam Hillborne anagram contest! http://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Feepurl.com%2F9hU35 Share ( http://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Feepurl.com%2F9hU35 ) http://us1.forward-to-friend.com/forward?u=2090e897f8c7f8d7170a52bbdid=2f6e414de5e=706fe9c1c5 Forward ( http://us1.forward-to-friend.com/forward?u=2090e897f8c7f8d7170a52bbdid=2f6e414de5e=706fe9c1c5 ) ** Coupon Code Not my circus, not my monkeys, not my problem. - Polish Idiom It's the busiest shopping day of the year Friday, but we'll be closed like we always do (Thursday too). You can avoid the crowds, hey! by shopping with us online. Place a web order on our site between now and December 8 using coupon code: ** thanks for 6% off an entire order between $50 and $800. We reopen Saturday here with Harry Joe and Scott. Bike, Book Hatchet has extended hours too. Come visit, and feel free to call down there 925 937-7334. As always we appreciate any feedback. 800-345-3918 Phones are open Mon-Sat 10am-4pm PST. Copyright © 2014 Rivendell Bicycle Works, All rights reserved. At some point, you
[RBW] FS: 700c Front Wheel (new) - Shimano/H+Son
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-nqAIH4PV7LQ/VHOz6ehHGDI/B6M/JbK9L6k2D5E/s1600/IMG_5528.JPG Hi folks, A while back I had my rear wheel stolen. I replaced it with one I bought as part of a set, leaving me with a spare front wheel. With the winter holidays around the corner I'd like to raise a little travel money, so up for your consideration: *One shiny, sturdy new wheel* - Shimano 105 (5800 series) 32H silver anodized hub, standard 100mm spacing - H+Son TB14 high-polish 23mm rim - double-wall, double eyelet, machined brake track, invisible weld; should be okay for tires of 25mm to 42mm width - DT stainless straight-gauge spokes - Shimano skewer *How about $85 with local pick-up (Oakland, CA)?* (+ real shipping cost for a non-local buyer) More info from the retailer: http://www.ebay.com/itm/H-plus-Son-TB14-Road-Bike-Wheelset-Silver-Shimano-5800-8-9-10-11-Speed-Hubs-/251572485727?pt=US_Wheels_Wheelsetshash=item3a92e37e5f Thanks, Andre R. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SQpk8LhXk9g/VHOztlHxa3I/B6E/UrChNEO3KeQ/s1600/IMG_5526.JPG https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-nqAIH4PV7LQ/VHOz6ehHGDI/B6M/JbK9L6k2D5E/s1600/IMG_5528.JPG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] New RBW fork crown?
Looks like a half-crown sneak peek in the Thanksgiving Blug post... Or am I crazy? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: New RBW fork crown?
Are those two choices mutually exclusive? Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, November 24, 2014 3:55:50 PM UTC-7, Z wrote: Looks like a half-crown sneak peek in the Thanksgiving Blug post... Or am I crazy? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Speed Wobble on Big Rivs?
Hey All, Bigger folks who only get a wobble at speed and going straight might consider that there is some wear in the HS at that orientation. All the best, Chris Redding, Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Cold weather water ideas - how to stop freezing bottles?
One trick I learned while living in Minnesota is to put the bottle upside down in the cage, otherwise a little ice formed at the top will make the bottle useless. For longer rides a hydration pack worn inside the outer layer is best, also a neoprene sleeve around the hose (usually used in skiing packs). --Metin On Monday, November 24, 2014 2:08:52 PM UTC-8, Edwin W wrote: I have been very impressed with the insulation capabilities of the Kleen Kanteen insulated line. I have put ice and water in it and had it out all day in the Nashville heat, and the cubes were still formed many hours later. I haven't tested it the other way, keeping things unfrozen in freezing temperatures for that long, but I would try hot water in there and bet you get 40km without it freezing. http://www.kleankanteen.com/collections/insulated Edwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cold weather water ideas - how to stop freezing bottles?
oh man that's genius On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Metin Uz uz.me...@gmail.com wrote: One trick I learned while living in Minnesota is to put the bottle upside down in the cage, otherwise a little ice formed at the top will make the bottle useless. For longer rides a hydration pack worn inside the outer layer is best, also a neoprene sleeve around the hose (usually used in skiing packs). --Metin On Monday, November 24, 2014 2:08:52 PM UTC-8, Edwin W wrote: I have been very impressed with the insulation capabilities of the Kleen Kanteen insulated line. I have put ice and water in it and had it out all day in the Nashville heat, and the cubes were still formed many hours later. I haven't tested it the other way, keeping things unfrozen in freezing temperatures for that long, but I would try hot water in there and bet you get 40km without it freezing. http://www.kleankanteen.com/collections/insulated Edwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Speed Wobble on Big Rivs?
I'm not especially big (frames ~58 c-c), but 3 of my Rivendells have shimmied at 15-20 mph speeds and it was not due to headset wear. (I've never felt shimmy at any other orientation than straight ahead.) IME, shimmy comes and goes with very odd and very slight changes. None of these 3 Rivs shimmied throughout their history; for example, the '03 didn't shimmy with 559X23 mm Turbos or Avocet whatevers, but it does with Kojaks. Similarly for the others. Shimmy doesn't really annoy me since I very rarely care to ride no handed. On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Chris in Redding, Ca. campredd...@gmail.com wrote: Hey All, Bigger folks who only get a wobble at speed and going straight might consider that there is some wear in the HS at that orientation. All the best, Chris Redding, Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *[I]n exploring the physical universe man has made no attempt to explore himself. Much of what goes by the name of pleasure is simply an effort to destroy consciousness. If one started by asking, what is man? what are his needs? how can he best express himself? one would discover that merely having the power to avoid work and live one’s life from birth to death in electric light and to the tune of tinned music is not a reason for doing so.”* * -- George Orwell, Pleasure Spots* *Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not money, I am become as a sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not money, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not money, it profiteth me nothing. Money suffereth long, and it is kind; money envieth not; money vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, doth not behave unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; beareth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. . . . And now abideth faith, hope, money, these three; but the greatest of these is money. * * -- George Orwell, Keep The Apidistra Flying* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: NYC ride report
Lobster mitts: Some large guy came into my local bike kitchen on Friday and donated a bunch of spendy togs, which the kitchen is giving away to avoid getting into the used clothes business. There was a pair of XL Gore Windstopper lobster mitts in there - basically these ones, except with shorter cuffs and little reflective spots all over the backs: http://www.goreapparel.com/ROAD-WINDSTOPPER®-Soft-Shell-Lobster-Gloves/GROADE,default,pd.html?dwvar_GROADE_color=9900start=6cgid=gbw-men-geartype-gloves Gore's sizing says XL=9, but I call BS. I normally wear 9, and they were pretty floppy on me. A baselayer might have helped, but it doesn't usually get cold enough in the never-rain-again Bay Area to be worth the effort of multiple layered glovery. Anyway, I looted more than my share of deluxe freebies - a few Assos bibs and both Assos and Pearl Izumi bibtights. If this sounds like it might work for you, drop me a line at adle...@mac.com and I'll nab them for you and send them for the shipping cost. The kitchen's closed until Friday, but I'm assuming they're still there; they're big, lobster mitts are weird-looking, and it's not cold enough here yet to overcome those acquisition disincentives. Peter Adler Berkeley, CA/USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: coffeeneuring
Eunice, Throughly enjoyed your Coffeeneuring challenge blog post. Wonderful images. So tragic that many bicycle deaths. I've been hyper aware these days when riding around automobiles. Blessings to you and the recently departed and their families. Look forward to your next post. ~Hugh On Sunday, November 23, 2014 12:01:07 PM UTC-8, Eunice Chang wrote: For those of you who like coffee and bikes, here's my write up for this year's coffeeneuring challenge: https://sleepyneko.exposure.co/2014-coffeeneuring-challenge (Related Riv content: It features Thumper the AHH) Enjoy, -E. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Cold weather water ideas - how to stop freezing bottles?
Here is a trick I've used for a long time backcountry skiing, but I've adapted it to snow biking more recently: I bring (at least) two bottles, filled with WARM water of varying degrees. The first is just hot, while the second is close to boiling. By the time I'm ready to drink the second, it's usually pretty cold already. OR (outdoor research) makes some bottle parkas that I've been experimenting with, but I honestly can't tell if they make a huge difference, or if a good double-wall bottle would work just as well. Certainly can't hurt. What's nice though is that these and Nalgene bottles fit into Salsa Everything Cages quite well. Most of my riding and skiing takes place in temperatures in the 0 to 20 F range (-18 to -6 C), and this will easily work for four hours or more. On Monday, November 24, 2014 2:13:03 PM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote: To the northerners here - what are your solutions for keeping water from freezing on long winter rides? I'm mean when it's real cold, -10C to -35C. I've tried it all - insulated water bottles (works for a little while), insulated sleeves around insulated water bottles (works better than just bottles, but still has limits), and my personal favourite, pouring a bunch of bourbon into your water (kinda works I think, but maybe I just drank it all before it had a chance to freeze..). I'm planning a 160km ride over Christmas break up to my family's cabin. It will be cold, with stops approx every 40km. So I could just not drink any water other than at the stops, but that isn't ideal. Any home-brew solutions out there? I had also thought of insulating my Swift Ozette bag with some heat reflecting material and air bubble wrap, sealing it relatively tight and throwing a hand warmer in there (assuming there is enough air movement to keep the chemical reaction going). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Thanks From the RBW Family to Yours
My favorite was the photo. Which caused me to do more looking up of the original black friday. Then put the photo up on my Facebook page. Oh, and have to give another plug to the U.S. Grant autobiography. One of my favorite books. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Any bicycle company that quotes Meister Eckhart can't be all bad Keep it up, Rivendell! And happy Thanksgiving! Patrick Moore, who just picked up his holiday flyer at the PO, riding his 75 fixed '99 gofast in hilly, windy Rio Rancho, NM. On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Rivendell Bicycle Works no-re...@rivbike.com wrote: We're grateful for another good year. View this email in your browser ( http://us1.campaign-archive1.com/?u=2090e897f8c7f8d7170a52bbdid=2f6e414de5e=706fe9c1c5 ) If the only prayer you said in your whole life was, 'Thank you,' that would suffice. -Johannes Eckhart ** Thanks We're all so grateful to our customers for keeping this ship afloat here in Walnut Creek for twenty years. It's been great fortune to have a business that makes fun things, somehow able to survive the slings and arrows of the recession, new competitors, the internet, international currency fluctuations, price-competition, defamation and tithes to the taxman. Business is good, and we're trying to do good business. We'll keep it up in years to come. But it'd all be nothing without your orders. Thank you. ** Laid Back Fry ** Black Friday used to be a bad thing. To gild refined gold, to paint the lily, to throw a perfume on the violet, to smooth the ice... is wasteful and ridiculous excess. - Shakespeare Long before it became a shopping holiday the phrase Black Friday in America referred to financial panic of September 24, 1869 when two of the most rottenest Tammany Hall Robber Barons (with others collectively known as the Riv-sounding Tweed Ring) cornered the gold market, sent prices plummeting (see our header image) and ruined many a good fortune for others. Your gold? Worthless! Moohaha! Ulysses S. Grant, the great Union Army General of the Civil War was president during this period, known as the Gilded Age. Despite his resounding success as an Army General, he was a stupendously bad U.S. Prez, getting duped by seemingly everyone while trying to fix the broken country--resulting in various financial panics, corruption charges, etc. Afterwards, when he was broke and dying of throat cancer (in the picture above), even publishers were trying to scam him into bad deals for writing a book. Mark Twain came to the rescue and scored him a deal letting his family keep 75% of the royalties from the memoir. I read it, it's great! He was a horse guy through and through, but any bike-people or otherwise ramblin-folk out there will enjoy the early parts where he's touring around the South and Mexico with his buddies on horseback, camping out, climbing volcanoes, roughing it. They covered a lot of ground. Don't forget to check out our Holiday Flyer PDF online ( https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzo7-V-zcAdRekZaVDcwbWFvU0k/view) . Some of the prices are wrong, but hey we're not perfect. Lots of gifty things like books and saws for people that don't like bikes yet. ** The Changing Colors of Autumn Bagmatchers Alert!! As Grant noted in the Blug ( http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/103234297799/joe-appaloosa-etc-bikes-for-2015-projex-well) , the cotton fabric on our Sackville Bags will be different colors come spring. SO if you like tan or olive Sackville bags ( http://www.rivbike.com/Bike-Bags-s/37.htm) , act soon. They'll be different colors for at least a year, not saying yet what those new colors are. Also check the blug for the Sam Hillborne anagram contest! http://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Feepurl.com%2F9hU35 Share ( http://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Feepurl.com%2F9hU35 ) http://us1.forward-to-friend.com/forward?u=2090e897f8c7f8d7170a52bbdid=2f6e414de5e=706fe9c1c5 Forward ( http://us1.forward-to-friend.com/forward?u=2090e897f8c7f8d7170a52bbdid=2f6e414de5e=706fe9c1c5 ) ** Coupon Code Not my circus, not my monkeys, not my problem. - Polish Idiom It's the busiest shopping day of the year Friday, but we'll be closed like we always do (Thursday too). You can avoid the crowds, hey! by shopping with us online. Place a web order on our site between now and December 8 using coupon code: ** thanks for 6% off an entire order between $50 and $800. We reopen Saturday here with Harry Joe and Scott.
[RBW] 2TT Atlantis on the Blug
I didn't see any fork crowns on the Blug, because I was blinded by the Atlantis that's headed to New Zealand. I know I've now fully switched sides, because I was admiring it for awhile before I realized hey, it has two top tubes. It seemed so totally normal to me that I didn't notice. In 2010 I would not have liked it. Now I love my own 2TT Riv, and I also really like that Atlantis on the Blug. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cold weather water ideas - how to stop freezing bottles?
Agree with Deacon, if you are riding longer distances in serious cold, a CamelBak or similar under a jacket is possibly the best way. The past couple years, my winter rides are shorter, so it's not as much of an issue. Will usually just fill a Contigo insulated bottle and be fine. Have discovered that hot water is better at the start. Also, plastic bottles like Polar which have insulation seem worse than useless, IMO. Also, would recommending you check blogs of folks that have ridden the Arrowhead 135. They might have some good ideas. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 6:41 PM, iamkeith keithhar...@gmail.com wrote: Here is a trick I've used for a long time backcountry skiing, but I've adapted it to snow biking more recently: I bring (at least) two bottles, filled with WARM water of varying degrees. The first is just hot, while the second is close to boiling. By the time I'm ready to drink the second, it's usually pretty cold already. OR (outdoor research) makes some bottle parkas that I've been experimenting with, but I honestly can't tell if they make a huge difference, or if a good double-wall bottle would work just as well. Certainly can't hurt. What's nice though is that these and Nalgene bottles fit into Salsa Everything Cages quite well. Most of my riding and skiing takes place in temperatures in the 0 to 20 F range (-18 to -6 C), and this will easily work for four hours or more. On Monday, November 24, 2014 2:13:03 PM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote: To the northerners here - what are your solutions for keeping water from freezing on long winter rides? I'm mean when it's real cold, -10C to -35C. I've tried it all - insulated water bottles (works for a little while), insulated sleeves around insulated water bottles (works better than just bottles, but still has limits), and my personal favourite, pouring a bunch of bourbon into your water (kinda works I think, but maybe I just drank it all before it had a chance to freeze..). I'm planning a 160km ride over Christmas break up to my family's cabin. It will be cold, with stops approx every 40km. So I could just not drink any water other than at the stops, but that isn't ideal. Any home-brew solutions out there? I had also thought of insulating my Swift Ozette bag with some heat reflecting material and air bubble wrap, sealing it relatively tight and throwing a hand warmer in there (assuming there is enough air movement to keep the chemical reaction going). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] 2TT Atlantis on the Blug
Sorry, couldn't get past the mis-matched water bottle cages. :-) On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 5:31 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: I didn't see any fork crowns on the Blug, because I was blinded by the Atlantis that's headed to New Zealand. I know I've now fully switched sides, because I was admiring it for awhile before I realized hey, it has two top tubes. It seemed so totally normal to me that I didn't notice. In 2010 I would not have liked it. Now I love my own 2TT Riv, and I also really like that Atlantis on the Blug. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] 2TT Atlantis on the Blug
Long live the double top tube. On Monday, November 24, 2014, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jimcwar...@earthlink.net'); wrote: I didn't see any fork crowns on the Blug, because I was blinded by the Atlantis that's headed to New Zealand. I know I've now fully switched sides, because I was admiring it for awhile before I realized hey, it has two top tubes. It seemed so totally normal to me that I didn't notice. In 2010 I would not have liked it. Now I love my own 2TT Riv, and I also really like that Atlantis on the Blug. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 2TT Atlantis on the Blug
Custom, perhaps? The 2TT still looks odd to me, although in larger sizes it's understandable. Hey, New Zealand during (our) winter would be great, on the off chance we ever get rain. dougP On Monday, November 24, 2014 5:31:55 PM UTC-8, James Warren wrote: I didn't see any fork crowns on the Blug, because I was blinded by the Atlantis that's headed to New Zealand. I know I've now fully switched sides, because I was admiring it for awhile before I realized hey, it has two top tubes. It seemed so totally normal to me that I didn't notice. In 2010 I would not have liked it. Now I love my own 2TT Riv, and I also really like that Atlantis on the Blug. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Oregon Outback and water
Thanks for weighing in with your experience Jan. Sounds like you got 40 miles per bottle, so with 3 bottles you had at least 50% margin for an 80 mile gap between water. No worries, pretty simple. I presume warmer sunnier conditions would reduce your miles per bottle, and would eat into that margin. On Monday, November 24, 2014 8:49:14 AM UTC-8, Jan Heine wrote: I think the longest stretch without water was about 40 miles, maybe a bit more during the night. I think the organizers carried a lot of water because they camped in places with no water. If you want to cook dinner, you'll need some extra water. I carried three large cycling water bottles. That meant that I could skip the first two places where I could have got water on or near the route. (It was an overcast day, so I didn't sweat a lot.) I refilled my bottles for the first time at mile 120. I think the ride is doable for most riders with just three bottles, even if you go slower and sweat more. You should use every opportunity to top off in some parts of the course, but it's never so remote that you'll die if you are stranded. Cars use those roads (or the one's paralleling the trail), even if infrequently. Jan Heine Editor Bicycle Quarterly www.bikequarterly.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek
Just a bit more fuel for the speculation fire...I actually purchased the sister / brother to the blue bike mentioned above as seen in the garage sale video... Same frame smaller and different color 52/3 cm frame 650B wheels, It was listed as a proto Hunqapillar on the Riv website when I purchased it. Funny thing is when I contacted Brian with some questions about the bike I referred to it as a Hunqapillar and he replied back referring to it as an Appaloosa. I thought it was kinda' odd at the time. Perhaps a mistake...but after reading this not so sure about that. Any way I now refer to it as a Hunqappaloosa. Any one in the greater socal area is welcome to come and check it out...see what you think. On Sunday, November 23, 2014 8:03:16 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 11/23/2014 08:40 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: There's something happening here What it is ain't exactly clear ... or, to put it slightly differently, *Because something is happening here* * But you don’t know what it is* * Do you, Mister Jones?* Read more: http://www.bobdylan.com/us/songs/ballad-thin-man#ixzz3Jx467zaN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Speed Wobble on Big Rivs?
My 65cm LongLow (1998 semi-custom with round forks and 33.33 JBs) will shake if I let go the bars at speeds above a fast running pace and the front basket is unloaded and I have weight in the back and I'm just coasting. So I don't usually let go the bars unless I'm pedaling or have a load in the front or have no load in the back. I have roller bearings in the bottom headset race, and balls in the upper, and the headset is nicely snug, no extra play. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek
Bring it out to a SoCal Riv Ride! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 24, 2014, at 8:13 PM, Richard Rios richardario...@gmail.com wrote: Just a bit more fuel for the speculation fire...I actually purchased the sister / brother to the blue bike mentioned above as seen in the garage sale video... Same frame smaller and different color 52/3 cm frame 650B wheels, It was listed as a proto Hunqapillar on the Riv website when I purchased it. Funny thing is when I contacted Brian with some questions about the bike I referred to it as a Hunqapillar and he replied back referring to it as an Appaloosa. I thought it was kinda' odd at the time. Perhaps a mistake...but after reading this not so sure about that. Any way I now refer to it as a Hunqappaloosa. Any one in the greater socal area is welcome to come and check it out...see what you think. On Sunday, November 23, 2014 8:03:16 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 11/23/2014 08:40 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: There's something happening here What it is ain't exactly clear ... or, to put it slightly differently, Because something is happening here But you don’t know what it is Do you, Mister Jones? Read more: http://www.bobdylan.com/us/songs/ballad-thin-man#ixzz3Jx467zaN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: NYC ride report
Thank You Peter!! As for the bar mitts, they seem great and totally warm, the only foreseeable problem for me is my bars' lack of integration and overall hugeness. I have big bosco bullmoose bars with old timey xt topmount thumb shifters on the descending to the center portion of the bars, and big ole two finger xt levers mounted as far forward as I could get them, leaving a lot of real estate on the uncut bars. Seems like a lot of area to cover underneath covers/bar mitts. So, hand mitts are king in my book presently, especially donation mitts with shiny spots all over! So, THANKS PETER!! -Kai And I've confused those tires on the trailer. They're maxxis hookworms, not kenda as I had originally said. And they rule. 16 with 110psi gets 300lb loads moving (with a 24x34). On Monday, November 24, 2014 7:06:53 PM UTC-5, Peter Adler wrote: Lobster mitts: Some large guy came into my local bike kitchen on Friday and donated a bunch of spendy togs, which the kitchen is giving away to avoid getting into the used clothes business. There was a pair of XL Gore Windstopper lobster mitts in there - basically these ones, except with shorter cuffs and little reflective spots all over the backs: http://www.goreapparel.com/ROAD-WINDSTOPPER ®-Soft-Shell-Lobster-Gloves/GROADE,default,pd.html?dwvar_GROADE_color=9900start=6cgid=gbw-men-geartype-gloves Gore's sizing says XL=9, but I call BS. I normally wear 9, and they were pretty floppy on me. A baselayer might have helped, but it doesn't usually get cold enough in the never-rain-again Bay Area to be worth the effort of multiple layered glovery. Anyway, I looted more than my share of deluxe freebies - a few Assos bibs and both Assos and Pearl Izumi bibtights. If this sounds like it might work for you, drop me a line at and I'll nab them for you and send them for the shipping cost. The kitchen's closed until Friday, but I'm assuming they're still there; they're big, lobster mitts are weird-looking, and it's not cold enough here yet to overcome those acquisition disincentives. Peter Adler Berkeley, CA/USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Speed Wobble on Big Rivs?
I have two Rivendells now, a custom and a Redwood, both in the 68cm range. I* get no shimmy whatsoever and I usually ride with 5-15 lbs in the back. *the previous owner said my custom did shimmy at higher speeds, i.e., 35+. I have never experienced it at any speed or with any load. I have had it going as fast as 55mph riding down passes in Colorado although that's somewhat atypical, usually terminal velocity is mid to upper 30s in Central Texas. On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 11:39 PM, Lovie Cashew cashewencount...@gmail.com wrote: Currently in the market for a lugged steel roadbike for commuting. I only use a rear rack with a basket containing 15lbs or so of stuff. Current (and past) bikes get that front end lateral shimmy/wobble at 16-18mph or faster when loaded with 200lb me and my gear on it when I ride with no hands off my drop bars. Super annoying, and problem only goes away when I put hands back on ths bars or clamp the top tube with my legs. And yes I have tried tightening my headset and stem down (amongst many other tactics). According to RBW, Im sized in the low 60's of their double top tube bikes. MY QUESTION IS: Any similar or larger Riv Riders get the front of the bike shaking when loaded rear only? Not looking to change how I ride, just want to know if buying a double top tube bike will cure this problem. Many Many Thanx !!! A- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Speed Wobble on Big Rivs?
A needle bearing headset often cures a shimmy. Miche primato is cheap enough to give it a try. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Speed Wobble on Big Rivs?
My 59 Hilsen just took on a mean shimmy when I removed the front bag and put a basket on a Mark's Rack in the back. Carrying about 3-5 lbs shimmied nastily no-handed, and even shook a bit with hands on bars. I just had the headset replaced from a Tange ball-bearing to a Miche needle top and bottom, and this seemed to not help at all. I had some mild shimmy before, BTW. I also noticed that as I lean forward and put more weight to the front of the bike, the shimmy calms. It was bad enough that I immediately removed the offending rear rack and basket and put my front bag on again. Shimmy, vanquished. Before - major shimmy: http://flic.kr/p/pS6tUc After - no shimmy: http://flic.kr/p/ntqSPz I recall a post a few yrs back from a fellow who experimented with different weighting in front and back. I believe he found that in his case having any weight in the back caused the shimmy. Brian Hanson Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
