Re: [RBW] Cheviot Thoughts and Impressions

Great review! And having ridden with you on that bike while you on some of the back side trails in china camp and marin headlands, you absolutely shredded it while I lagged a long ass ways behind you on my hunqapillar. To counterpoint though, I never felt any of that on my cheviot the brief t

[RBW] Re: How was your PBP?

Ditto...awesome report. A few days ago I asked my wife what we were doing in four years and told her about about PBP. Went to dinner with in-laws a bit later and they started asking about this crazy race in France that I was going to do. I may have committed myself...or I need to be committed

[RBW] Re: Found a 1986–87 Bridgestone T700 at the Curb This Morning, Am Puzzled

If anybody is interested I have an 87 T700 (62 cm) in the garage waiting to be put together..the white one that somebody posted a link to earlier. It's not free but if you can pick up in Seattle I'm willing to let it go pretty cheap...$120?...$80 without wheels. I've got all the original main

Re: [RBW] Cheviot Thoughts and Impressions

There are two in this post. More on Flickr. Handle is clayton.esseff. Can post some more on Monday too, but can't figure out how to do this from my phone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and st

Re: [RBW] Cheviot Thoughts and Impressions

Well, now we need pics, Clayton! With you, your steed, and your gun tottin' hatchet! Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 10:05:21 PM UTC-6, Clayton.sf wrote: > > Yes, that was most likely me, was riding back from an s24o in Samuel > Taylor that very vary day. -- You rece

Re: [RBW] Cheviot Thoughts and Impressions

Yes, that was most likely me, was riding back from an s24o in Samuel Taylor that very vary day. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-b

[RBW] Re: hatchets

On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 8:38:12 PM UTC-7, Don Compton wrote: > I am not a gun control guy. But what is the deal with hatchets? They chop and carve wood better than a gun. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

Re: [RBW] Cheviot Thoughts and Impressions

Yes! Had to check my journal, but I did go camping in Samuel Taylor that day, so likely was me. Small world! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] hatchets

I am not a gun control guy. But what is the deal with hatchets? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com

Re: [RBW] Cheviot Thoughts and Impressions

Did I see you riding this bike on Sir Francis Drake toward Fairfax near Woodacre on Saturday morning, August 1, looking fairly loaded for touring? Whoever it was on his Cheviot, it looked perfect and made me want to be doing the exact same thing. Great photo here too! Sent from my iPhone > On

[RBW] Found a 1986–87 Bridgestone T700 at the Curb This Morning, Am Puzzled

Wow. Some guys have all the luck. You find a T700 for FREE and it's in EXACTLY YOUR SIZE? Congrats on the find, man. Andre Rosario Oakland, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receivi

[RBW] FS/FT: Nitto "11cm" / 26.0 stem for your "10cm"

Looks like it might be a Technomic Deluxe, no? (the ones Rivendell used to sell before they combined the finish of the Deluxe and the height of the standard Technomic in the Tallux) My guess is that Nitto stems are generally marked according to the extension length as measured from the centerli

[RBW] Re: Cheviot Thoughts and Impressions

Yes the rock n roads are great! I use them too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to thi

[RBW] Re: Cheviot Thoughts and Impressions

I second Clayton's review! The Cheviot/ut (50cm) is my go to bike and if I had to have ONLY one; it'd be it. I may change to bosco bars but now I have Albatross; supremely comfortable (though I absolutely love Clayton's bike). A pretty basic Riv build with thumb shifters, front and rear (Pletche

[RBW] Re: PSA: Sample Appaloosa is pretty sweet

Love that maroon w/cream On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 3:44:34 PM UTC-7, drew wrote: > > now there is a reddish 55cm up. am i looking at a hunq fork crown on these > guys? it seems like the slightly more affordable, slightly more off roady > line up they are working towards is gonna be pretty co

[RBW] For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

Just ordered a pair of Rat Trap Pass tires for the Atlantis. I think the clearance will be a bit tighter than I'd prefer at the chainstays, but will give them a go. They could be ideal for the dry gravel roads I routinely ride. They would have been great today, riding farther west than normal

Re: [RBW] Re: How was your PBP?

And, congratulations to you (and all the others) who completed the ride. On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > I missed Jenny's post, so glad I caught this one. > > Jenny: very well written and photographed. Your "sideways" approach gives > at least this reader more social cont

Re: [RBW] Brake reach for 47cm Soma San Marcos

I'm getting a 47cm in the current 2nd generation model Cheers -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

Re: [RBW] Re: Going to be in SF, looking for the "Rivendell Experience"

Thanks for the replies, everyone. I'll definitely hit BB&H, and see if I can't adjust my schedule to make them both. On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 3:27 PM, dougP wrote: > Mark > > Both are worth adjusting your work needs. There is a Bart station within > walking. > > Dougp > > -- > You received this

Re: [RBW] Cheviot Thoughts and Impressions

Here some pictures: Best, Clayton On Friday, Aug

Re: [RBW] Re: How was your PBP?

I missed Jenny's post, so glad I caught this one. Jenny: very well written and photographed. Your "sideways" approach gives at least this reader more social context for the ride. I was surprised and pleased to see a contingent from India (what a huge difference 50 years has made!) and from the Phi

Re: [RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

http://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=8;navigation=1;menu=1000%2C2%2C103%2C212;search=super+moto+29;product=101777 On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 12:53 PM, Tim Gavin wrote: > The 622 x 60 Super Moto is a worthy stand-in, if you can fit it. > > On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Zack wrote: > >> my kingdo

Re: [RBW] Cheviot Thoughts and Impressions

Yes, please, and I'd like to hear others' impressions of the Cheviot as a relatively light duty singletracker. I gather that the design requires a swept-back bar, and I was interested to hear how well Clayton found it to climb. I've long disliked an upright position because, with a "normal" top tu

Re: [RBW] Re: Kojaks tubeless: Possible? Any advantage?

Thanks for this. So, it can be done -- Vaughn at Stevie's is also confident of this, but I wanted corroboration. Next question: is it worth the cost and effort? Will a tubeless Kojak ride nicer than a be-tubed one? I am also debating whether to get Vaughn to tubeless-i-fy (with Orange Seal kit) m

Re: [RBW] Cheviot Thoughts and Impressions

Great review, now for some pictures! Eric On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Clayton.sf wrote: > Shared this with Rivendell already, but figured there is probably some > interest here too: > > The following musings only pertain to the 60cm / 700c version and are a > longwinded way of saying the b

[RBW] Cheviot Thoughts and Impressions

Shared this with Rivendell already, but figured there is probably some interest here too: The following musings only pertain to the 60cm / 700c version and are a longwinded way of saying the bike is amazing. (I am 6’ tall, male, 165lb.) This is a very special (in a good way) bike. I own two

[RBW] Re: How was your PBP?

I obsessively read every one of these last night, thanks for taking the time to put them together!!! On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 9:03:43 AM UTC-7, Jenny Oh Hatfield wrote: > > PBP was magnificently hard and wonderful and painful and life-changing. It > took me just about the same amount of

[RBW] Re: PSA: Sample Appaloosa is pretty sweet

now there is a reddish 55cm up. am i looking at a hunq fork crown on these guys? it seems like the slightly more affordable, slightly more off roady line up they are working towards is gonna be pretty cool and well timed, trend wise. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[RBW] Re: PSA: Sample Appaloosa is pretty sweet

Garth "who's on first" is Junior Varsity compared to "Haddock's Eyes" from Lewis Carrol: LINK! On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 12:44:07 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote: > > > Lol Bill . . . . this all reminds of "Who's on first" ! > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-5dPy

Re: [RBW] Re: IS YOUR STATE,TOWN,,BUSINESSES, UNIVERSITIES BIKE FRIENDLY ?

Take you for a ride any time you're around and inclined. it's off-putting from the major roadways but the surface streets and roads are from the 1800s layout, human scale not cars. Fun in the daytime or at night with lights. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 12:13:38 PM

[RBW] Re: black cork grips - to shellack or not

I shellacked my cork grips after googling enough to make me feel it was ok. The look is nice cut I am not happy with what it did to the feel. if my palms get sweaty at all on the bike, then they just feel too slick. I haven't done anything yet, but when we were on vacation I was sure thinking

[RBW] Re: Kojaks tubeless: Possible? Any advantage?

Just 4 U :) https://bartthebikeman.wordpress.com/2013/06/15/continental-grand-prix-road-tyre-tubeless-setup/ On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 3:35:58 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Given that the (559X1.35") Kojaks measure almost a true 32 mm on the new > Equalizer rims, while the Elk Passes a

[RBW] Re: PSA: Sample Appaloosa is pretty sweet

That 47 Proto frame is super-adorbs! KJ On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 2:25:35 PM UTC-4, Coconutbill wrote: > > To be more specific, there is a frame for sale in my size! > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe fro

Re: [RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

The 622 x 60 Super Moto is a worthy stand-in, if you can fit it. On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Zack wrote: > my kingdom* for a fatter 700c compass tire than the barlow pass. > > (i do not actually have a kingdom) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou

[RBW] Re: PSA: Sample Appaloosa is pretty sweet

Lol Bill . . . . this all reminds of "Who's on first" ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-5dPy1O3CQ On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 2:31:24 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > This is a great opportunity for one to wax philosophical about the role of > a name...to outline the nuances between re

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Simple1

The SimpleOne has found it's new owner! This time there was overwhelming response. Weird how that works. -J On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 1:36:31 PM UTC-7, Justin August wrote: > > 58cm SimpleOne. > >- Tange headset >- Wheel set is velocity unbranded track hubs to SunCR18 rims with Som

[RBW] Kojaks tubeless: Possible? Any advantage?

Given that the (559X1.35") Kojaks measure almost a true 32 mm on the new Equalizer rims, while the Elk Passes are considerably narrower (27 - 27.5 mm, albeit on considerably narrower rims), I wonder if I won't just keep to Kojaks on the "errand" bike. I hope to get this back from Chauncey on Sunday

[RBW] Re: Going to be in SF, looking for the "Rivendell Experience"

Mark Both are worth adjusting your work needs. There is a Bart station within walking. Dougp -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-b

Re: [RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

be careful about signing any documents!!! ;-P =- Joe On 8/28/15, Justin August wrote: > I am *so happy* this gets posted two days after I make the commitment to > reign in all my spending before my wedding. > > SO. > > > HAPPY. > > :/ > > -J > > On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:35:24 AM UTC-7, Za

Re: [RBW] Re: [BOB] For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

For me, we're talking older mountain bike that is likely to get more fun use once I put these tires on it. -Original Message- From: Ginz Sent: Aug 28, 2015 7:49 AM To: internet-bob Cc: bertin...@gmail.com, rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: [BOB] For those of you who don't

Re: [RBW] Re: Aeropress Inventor

The interesting part is that, according to my high-end coffee industry friends, the guy who invented the Aeropress is almost 100% wrong about everything he says about brewing coffee. They say all of his reasoning and explanations are totally flawed and that he doesn't understand why the Aeropre

[RBW] Re: Going to be in SF, looking for the "Rivendell Experience"

BB&H is a neat shop to tinker around with the smaller, weirder goods that Riv sells (and test ride some bikes too). RivHQ is a great place to go to see how the sausage is made and test ride some bikes. I think visiting both exposes you to the true Riv experience. -J On Friday, August 28, 2015

[RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

I am *so happy* this gets posted two days after I make the commitment to reign in all my spending before my wedding. SO. HAPPY. :/ -J On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:35:24 AM UTC-7, Zack wrote: > > my kingdom* for a fatter 700c compass tire than the barlow pass. > > (i do not actually have

[RBW] Re: For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

my kingdom* for a fatter 700c compass tire than the barlow pass. (i do not actually have a kingdom) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owne

[RBW] Re: PSA: Sample Appaloosa is pretty sweet

This is a great opportunity for one to wax philosophical about the role of a name...to outline the nuances between reference, designation, identification, significationIs the name the thing? Is the name part of the thing? Is the name just how we refer to the thing? On Friday, August 28,

[RBW] Re: PSA: Sample Appaloosa is pretty sweet

To be more specific, there is a frame for sale in my size! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: PSA: Sample Appaloosa is pretty sweet

Thanks Bill ! So I'll consider a Appaloosa to mean "prototype" generically then , even though it bears nothing to do with the words meaning or origin . On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 1:33:45 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > You are only confused because it's kind of confusing. > > They've l

[RBW] Re: Going to be in SF, looking for the "Rivendell Experience"

i went for the first time last winter. i stopped by the hq, and then later/accidentally stumbled upon the bbh. awkwardly, the person i was talking to at hq, was then also the one working at bbh a couple hours later. i would assume that it depends on what you want to see, who is working, how b

[RBW] Re: PSA: Sample Appaloosa is pretty sweet

It's a 58cm Proto-loosa, isn't it? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

[RBW] Re: PSA: Sample Appaloosa is pretty sweet

I would be interested in selling my 47cm Toyo Homer in order to afford the 47cm Proto-loosa, I am thinking. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Going to be in SF, looking for the "Rivendell Experience"

I'm going to be in San Francisco most of next week, and would love to visit Rivendell. I'm going to be pretty busy with work in the day, though, and it looks like Riv HQ is only open until 4pm. My question to those in the know: Since Riv BB&H is open a bit later, and would be much easier to reach

[RBW] Re: PSA: Sample Appaloosa is pretty sweet

You are only confused because it's kind of confusing. They've liked the name "Appaloosa" for a long while, and have several bike concepts in the pipeline. They fully developed the appaloosa name, by getting a badge made and presumably all the other decal work. So they are going to use that

[RBW] Re: [Bulk] Re: [BOB] For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

So 2.125 x 26. http://www.metric-conversions.org/length/millimeters-to-inches.htm Sounds good for my rigid mtb's converted to urban crusisers. Paul in Dallas. - Original Message - From: Jeff Lesperance To: Philip Kim Cc: RBW Owners Bunch ; internet-...@googlegroups.com ; Patri

Re: [RBW] Re: IS YOUR STATE,TOWN,,BUSINESSES, UNIVERSITIES BIKE FRIENDLY ?

That's about it Patrick, as their is no perfect way to measure such things . It's more than just infrastructure . Do hills and climate matter ? Minneapolis is great for cycling , it always has been dating back to the 80's at least . But not for 4 season riding, not to me . It's not jus

[RBW] Re: PSA: Sample Appaloosa is pretty sweet

I'm a bit confused I thought the Appaloosa was suppose to have really long chainstays, a diagonal tube, and more rake . This one : https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8186/8419517174_1e94722b62_b.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners B

[RBW] PSA: Sample Appaloosa is pretty sweet

http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/wsf-160.htm This proto looks pretty nice; a nice Sam-ish frame w/ cant/V-brakes & room for 50+mm tires. The complete seems like a heckuva deal to boot. Best, Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" g

[RBW] Re: [BOB] For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

Jeff, Please update us once you know whether/how they fit. I've got an XOXO as well and would love to know how it goes. Best, Eric On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:20:00 AM UTC-4, Jeff wrote: > The copy on the page where these are for sale ( > https://www.compasscycle.com/shop/26-inch/compass-2

[RBW] Re: [BOB] For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

The copy on the page where these are for sale ( https://www.compasscycle.com/shop/26-inch/compass-26-x-2-3-rat-trap-pass/) contains the conflicting measurement info: Compass 26″ x 2.3″ Rat Trap Pass ... The Rat Trap Pass (26″ x 54mm) I also recall that actual measured width was reported to be c

Re: [RBW] Brake reach for 47cm Soma San Marcos

Yep, I think the 1st gen had brake reach weirdness. I remember seeing one on the web in 51cm that used Paul Racers in the rear, but the front fork had to use a different brake. I think the tiburon blue was able to use Paul Racer in the 650b sizes. I mean essentially they were a tweaked geometr

Re: [RBW] Re: IS YOUR STATE,TOWN,,BUSINESSES, UNIVERSITIES BIKE FRIENDLY ?

I wonder how accurate and consistent the rating is. I see that Santa Fe is rated Silver and Albuquerque and Las Cruces bronze. What are the criteria? Are they consistent? The points listed under each city aren't the same; ABQ's % of street with bike "facilities" isn't included; only Las Cruces' pr

[RBW] Re: [BOB] For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

Is this a typo? Because I thought it was supposed to be 54-55mm, which means 2.1ish. Also, I remember reading these actually measured out to be 50mm on their prototype. I wonder if they resolved that, but I don't know anything about the tire molding process and how easy/difficult it is to chang

Re: [RBW] Brake reach for 47cm Soma San Marcos

Which San Marcos frame are you buying? The link shows the first generation (robin's egg blue pearl) frame, which has been out of production for a year. The current generation (sage blue pearl) has some tweaks and may have addressed the rear brake reach issue you noticed. Also, which size of San

[RBW] FS: Selle Anatomica Titantica X Brown $65

Sold! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@go

[RBW] Re: IS YOUR STATE,TOWN,,BUSINESSES, UNIVERSITIES BIKE FRIENDLY ?

Wow. Pittsburgh netted bronze category and yet PA made #12? So many people commute to Pittsburgh by car from surrounding areas that much of the traffic is not the city's population. Some of those measurables may reflect commitment they weigh positively but some are not universally deemed good i

[RBW] Brake reach for 47cm Soma San Marcos

Hello All, I planning a new San Marcos build for my wife and want to go with center pull brakes based on their reported better modulation. After reading the specs, flyer information and viewing this http://www.cyclesymphony.com/blog/?p=914 build with Riv Silver 73mm dual pivot brakes, there see

[RBW] Re: [BOB] For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

I'm a bit surprised at the 2.3" width. There are a lot of touring bikes that can fit a 1.75 or 2.0...but 2.3 is really out there. In the 559 wheel size, we're talking mountain bike. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] FS: Selle Anatomica Titantica X Brown $65

Sale pending -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-b

[RBW] Bike Traffic dilemmas of the future today

Fascinating. http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/innovations/wp/2015/08/26/how-fixed-gear-bikes-can-confuse-googles-self-driving-cars/ With abandon, Patrick www.MindYourHeadCoop.org www.OurHolyConception.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owne

[RBW] For those of you who don't subscribe to the Compass/BQ mailings ... New Compass Tires Now Available

I just ordered a multi-year stock of the Elk Pass. The Rat Trap Pass looks particularly nice; wish it came in a 700C version. New Tires Available And Others Back In Stock View this email in your browser

[RBW] Re: IS YOUR STATE,TOWN,,BUSINESSES, UNIVERSITIES BIKE FRIENDLY ?

Here is always bike friendly :) Regardless ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To pos

[RBW] FS: Selle Anatomica Titantica X Brown $65

Used for a season and 1/2. In very good shape. $65 including USPS Priority shipping. Payment via Google Wallet, check or MO. I don't do paypal. Marc -- You received this me

[RBW] Re: IS YOUR STATE,TOWN,,BUSINESSES, UNIVERSITIES BIKE FRIENDLY ?

I think it's interesting that the rating is process-based rather than outcome-based. By Outcome measures, for example, my city--New Haven--should br in the silver category, above the mean. But it's bronze because (for example) it doesn't have a BPAC. See the report card excerpt attached. O