[RBW] Re: PSA: Compass cycling knickers back in stock

2016-02-17 Thread Jan Heine
The old model is on sale, and some sizes are sold out. The new production run is in stock in all sizes: https://www.compasscycle.com/shop/components/compass-knickers-2016/ Thanks, Jan Heine Compass Bicycles Ltd. www.compasscycle.com On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 7:21:59 PM UTC-8, iamkeith

[RBW] Re: Reviews and/or photos of Big Ben 700c X 55 tires?

2016-02-17 Thread adam leibow
here are mine mounted underneath a SKS P65 fender On Friday, February 12, 2016 at 12:31:21 PM UTC-8, iamkeith wrote: > > Is anybody in a position to share experiences with these tires?

Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread Patrick Moore
I'd almost trade you for my green 2003 Curt built custom! Man, I sometimes wonder if a Rat Trap Pass bike wouldn't be better than even a road-29er. Anyway, let us know how you like those tires. On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 9:39 PM, iamkeith wrote: > So, what I really want to know, Hugh, is why you'd

Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread Hugh Smitham
Funny you should ask. All day I've been asking myself that very thing. I may hold onto it. On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 8:39:41 PM UTC-8, iamkeith wrote: > > So, what I really want to know, Hugh, is why you'd sell your 26 Atlantis. > > > > I might as well post this,

Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread iamkeith
Sorry... that is my 60, not 59. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send em

Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread iamkeith
So, what I really want to know, Hugh, is why you'd sell your 26 Atlantis. I might as well post this, too. I showed a different picture in the Rat Trap Pass discussion a while back, but this is my 59 with those new tires, just before it started snowing last fall. I've been

Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread Patrick Moore
I don't know whether a 700C bike as such -- *as such* is faster or slower than a 26" wheeled bike. If it is faster, I can't imagine any reason except that bigger wheels somehow roll more easily than smaller ones. (I do think I notice more drag on my 406 mm Kojaks than on my 559 or 622 Kojaks.) I d

Re: [RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Surlyprof
The price was a pleasant surprise. Riv used to sell them for $104. The XCD might have been prettier but, after a quick test ride, I'm happy with the decision. Successfully installed, tuned and feeling faster (maybe smoother?) than ever. https://www.flickr.com/photos/129545862@N03/2510027415

Re: [RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Surlyprof
The price was a pleasant surprise. Riv used to sell them for $104. Successfully installed, tuned and feeling faster (maybe smoother?) than ever. https://www.flickr.com/photos/129545862@N03/25100274155/in/dateposted-public/ Thanks for the great advice everyone! John On Wednesday, February 17

Re: [RBW] FS: Riv ShopSack, medium green

2016-02-17 Thread Joe Bernard
Sold! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@go

Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread Hugh Smitham
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 7:22 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > It's the same bike, a 1999 Rivendell road custom, formerly with 650C > wheels and Pro 4s, now with 559 wheels and Elk Passes. The gear is now a > tiny bit higher (76" versus 75", since the wheel is 1/4" bigger with the > Elk Passes) but I se

Re: [RBW] RBW and Meaning

2016-02-17 Thread Patrick Moore
I recall Grant saying back in an early publication, "We are product driven, not market driven," meaning they design things for use and not merely for sale. I think this is a key element of the overall design, production, and sales method of the company that sets it so far apart from most companies

Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch
That's the earliest catalog I have. Does anyone have some scans of catalogs or frame brochures earlier than #5 (1999)? I think Keith is right. -Norm From: iamkeith To: RBW Owners Bunch Cc: bone1...@yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c

[RBW] Re: RBW and Meaning

2016-02-17 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
When you pour more and more energy into a system, it grows more and more complex, e.g. the current fossil fuel era, on the wane. One could make the case that it also seems to become more and more bereft of meaning. I believe the bicycle as practiced and promoted by Rivendell to be a machine tha

[RBW] RBW and Meaning

2016-02-17 Thread Philip Williamson
That's a cool job! I wish someone had told me in high school that Industrial Designer was a job choice. I don't know how to talk about the things you're asking about. I do enjoy the Riv refinement and funk. There's a plainspokenness that draws me in, and I think the showroom carries that throug

[RBW] Dia Compe "G" level brakes: thanks for info; still ISO RGCs, 600s, Records, Superbes as described.

2016-02-17 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks Joe, Brian, and Richard. That's what I needed to know. For the record: ISO 57 mm max reach, single pivot, silver, very good condition, cold forged Royal Grand Compes, Shimano 600s, Campy Record, Superbe/Superbe Pro front and rear pair. *Need not have brake blocks.* Nutted or allen. -- Y

Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread Patrick Moore
It's the same bike, a 1999 Rivendell road custom, formerly with 650C wheels and Pro 4s, now with 559 wheels and Elk Passes. The gear is now a tiny bit higher (76" versus 75", since the wheel is 1/4" bigger with the Elk Passes) but I seem to be able to push it more easily -- cadence versus effort ve

[RBW] Re: PSA: Compass cycling knickers back in stock

2016-02-17 Thread iamkeith
All I see are XS. Did I miss this already?! Crap. On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 5:07:24 PM UTC-7, Neil wrote: > > Looks like all sizes of the Compass Bicycles riding knickers are back in > stock, in gray (no more khaki, yay!). Supposedly some modest improvements > over the last version. M

Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread Hugh Smitham
All these bikes look great to me! Thanks for posting! On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 6:43:26 PM UTC-8, iamkeith wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 4:49:17 PM UTC-7, Norman Bone wrote: >> >> Thanks Hugh! >> >> It looks like 59 was a large as you could go with 26. Catalog says 61

Re: [RBW] FS: Riv ShopSack, medium green

2016-02-17 Thread 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch
Hey Joe-I'll take it. Are you in Portland too? -Norm in Woodstock From: Joe Bernard To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 6:58 PM Subject: [RBW] FS: Riv ShopSack, medium green Bought last year for a front porteur rack which never seems to find its way to a bike

Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread john
@Keith, Norm and Tim: Those are hot bikes! Exactly what I'm thinking! Great Rough Stuff, Go-Anywhere All-Rounders! On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 6:43:26 PM UTC-8, iamkeith wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 4:49:17 PM UTC-7, Norman Bone wrote: >> >> Thanks Hugh! >> >> It looks

[RBW] FS: Riv ShopSack, medium green

2016-02-17 Thread Joe Bernard
My bad, I guess it's tan. It looks light green to me, but I think it's the green straps tricking my eyes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to r

[RBW] Re: RBW and Meaning

2016-02-17 Thread BSWP
John, I stumbled onto RBW when I saw a Moustache bar, and mounted it to my REI Novara XR back in the last century. The bike was woefully under-sized for me, but the bars transformed it. After I won an insurance settlement for being doored on my also too-small Centurion (lugged steel!) in West B

Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread iamkeith
On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 4:49:17 PM UTC-7, Norman Bone wrote: > > Thanks Hugh! > > It looks like 59 was a large as you could go with 26. Catalog says 61, 63 > and 65 went to 700c > > I'm guessing that this particular catalog excerpt was from later in the period of model availability,

[RBW] Re: PSA: Compass cycling knickers back in stock

2016-02-17 Thread Zed Martinez
Hey, I like my khaki ones. On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 7:07:24 PM UTC-5, Neil wrote: > > Looks like all sizes of the Compass Bicycles riding knickers are back in > stock, in gray (no more khaki, yay!). Supposedly some modest improvements > over the last version. Mine should arrive tomorro

Re: [RBW] Dia Compe "G" brakes?

2016-02-17 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks, Joe; I saw this: http://velobase.com/ViewComponent.aspx?ID=545bea4e-4d01-4add-a37f-0d13feaacd67 +: good fender clearance. -: Quality not top of line. On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 7:13 PM, Joe Bunik wrote: > Dia-Compe 'G' sidepull notes: > • vintage single-pivot, acceptable performance but

Re: [RBW] Clems for Kids

2016-02-17 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Well, since I have a Clementine, and he's generally pretty sophisticated about bikes, and it is black, just like mine, I think I will be okay with that part. But it did cross my mind (and the high top one on CL is $200 less than the low at Riv!) Anybody else have an age when their child was oka

Re: [RBW] Dia Compe "G" brakes?

2016-02-17 Thread Joe Bunik
Dia-Compe 'G' sidepull notes: • vintage single-pivot, acceptable performance but well worth upgrading the pads • notorious for being "backwards" - with the barrel arm on the right... which is great for front-lever-right setups. • indeed, they do have better fender clearance than many other vintage

Re: [RBW] Re: RBW and Meaning

2016-02-17 Thread Deacon Patrick
Exactly! With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 6:50:48 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > > On the whole I agree. In part: > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Deacon Patrick > wrote: > >> Freedom. Including from the bicycle itself and from the need to be >> attired a certain w

[RBW] FS: New 650B Dyno Wheel (Shimano DH-3N72) and Clem Bars (maybe)

2016-02-17 Thread RDS
See pics at https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6Wb8pkSIAX6SG1wbnJTdzhOYVE For sale is a brand new never used front wheel with a Shimano DH-3N72 dyno hub. Wheel size is 650B as I requested that this be made for my 52 Clem. I do not really have any details about the rim itself. It is silver wit

Re: [RBW] Re: RBW and Meaning

2016-02-17 Thread Patrick Moore
On the whole I agree. In part: On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > Freedom. Including from the bicycle itself and from the need to be attired > a certain way to go riding. Hop on. Just ride. Live. > For the type of riding you and even that I do, Deacon, we *always* need cyc

[RBW] Re: 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread dougP
There you have it from someone with all 3 sizes. Come to think of it, didn't BQ do a test a while back with 3 frames, one for each wheel size, that were otherwise identical? IIRC, it was testing handling, and the conclusion was that the smaller wheels with chubbier tires could handle similarl

Re: [RBW] Re: 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread Patrick Moore
I know that "twenty niner" wheels -- with 65 mm tire mine have measured almost 30", and the 51 mm tires on the wheels now measure 28.8" -- seem to float through sand and smooth out small, high frequency bumps better than tires 2" smaller, this for the same width. On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 2:34 PM, H

Re: [RBW] Re: 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread Patrick Moore
There is a pronounced opposite effect: smaller wheels are lighter and "shorter" so their gyroscopic effect is less, and bikes shod with them are more agile, or nervous if you prefer, though the overall handling of a smaller-wheeled bike, at least those designed by Grant, can handle impeccably. I've

Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread Hugh Smitham
at 3:55 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > Hugh asked: > > > "Speaking of geometry, since Grant and company are revising the Atlantis > (longer chainstays) how is that going to make it a better bike? " > > *It won't make it a better bike unless you decide you like it better. It > will make it a differen

[RBW] Re: RBW and Meaning

2016-02-17 Thread Deacon Patrick
Freedom. Including from the bicycle itself and from the need to be attired a certain way to go riding. Hop on. Just ride. Live. The bike doesn't matter because it goes invisible. Except the bike eminently matters because a bike (or any other useful object) that doesn't go invisible in use limits

[RBW] RBW and Meaning

2016-02-17 Thread Surlyprof
For those of you who don’t know me, in addition to wanting a Rivendell bicycle for years, owning a Hillborne for a year or two and being a member of this group for over a year, I am also a professor of Industrial Design. This semester I have been teaching my course entitled, “Design and Mean

[RBW] PSA: Compass cycling knickers back in stock

2016-02-17 Thread Neil
Looks like all sizes of the Compass Bicycles riding knickers are back in stock, in gray (no more khaki, yay!). Supposedly some modest improvements over the last version. Mine should arrive tomorrow, just in time for the weekend! It's been a lovely two weeks of dry weather here in Nor Cal, hopin

Re: [RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Chad
That's a great price on probably one of the best 9-speed derailers still available. I've not tried the SunXCD, but I am glad to hear it works great. Might try it on my Roadeo. I found this interesting on the Riv product description page for the XT M772: "Both shifts to 36t in back and work u

Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread Hugh Smitham
Thanks Norm. That's a good read. As others have stated from the get go Grant has matched wheel size with frame size. So he could have gone with 26" straight across the board but went with aesthetics. That's not to say the larger wheeled versions are any less capable. ~Hugh “Life is like riding a

Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread Bill Lindsay
Hugh asked: "Speaking of geometry, since Grant and company are revising the Atlantis (longer chainstays) how is that going to make it a better bike? " *It won't make it a better bike unless you decide you like it better. It will make it a different bike. I trust both old and new Atlantii wil

Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch
Thanks Hugh! It looks like 59 was a large as you could go with 26. Catalog says 61, 63 and 65 went to 700c Riv Cat05 all-rounder |   | |   | |   |   |   |   |   | | Riv Cat05 all-rounder | | | | View on www.flickr.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | |   | From: Hugh Smitham To: RBW Owners

Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread Hugh Smitham
Yeah Norm we know you have this beauty!! Thanks for rubbing it in dude :) ~Hugh “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein http://velocipeedemusings.com/ On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 3:28 PM, 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@

Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch
I have a 59 AR with 26" wheels. match built in '99. -Norm in PDX Rivendell All Rounder |   | |   | |   |   |   |   |   | | Rivendell All Rounder | | | | View on www.flickr.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | |   | From: Steven Sweedler To: "rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com" Sent: Wednesd

[RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Clayton.sf
yes, it works. Even though the internets says it does not. On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 2:01:09 PM UTC-8, drew wrote: > > just to be clear, we are saying that the 10 speed shadow/clutch > derailleurs work fine with 8 speed ultegra shifters in friction mode and > xd2 style cranks? > > that

Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread iamkeith
I have a large (60cm) with 26" wheels. 1999 model year. Others are much more knowledgeable about changes and history, but my understanding is that 2000 is when they switched to 700c for the larger models, so that would jive. On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 2:53:08 PM UTC-7, Steven Sweedler

[RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread drew
just to be clear, we are saying that the 10 speed shadow/clutch derailleurs work fine with 8 speed ultegra shifters in friction mode and xd2 style cranks? thats good news. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe f

Re: [RBW] Clems for Kids

2016-02-17 Thread Eric Daume
Probably it's not a big deal since you ride a mixte, but I would make darn sure my boy would ride a "girl's bike" before I'd spend that kind of money on a Clementine. Eric who had a Cheviot, so don't take that "girl's bike" thing the wrong way On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 10:52 AM, 'Mark in Beacon' vi

Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread Steven Sweedler
Do any listmembers have a large Riv All Rounder w/26" wheels. I recall that the first AR's in all sizes were 26" wheeled. Can anyone verify. My own AR is from 2000, a 64 cm and is 700 c. Steve Apache Junction, Az. On Wednesday, February 17, 2016, Hugh Smitham wrote: > It's my perception that th

[RBW] Re: 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread Hugh Smitham
It's my perception that the 26" wheel is easier to get rolling and keep rolling than 650b & 700c wheels. For me at least my Atlantis seems to climb better than those other sizes and I have all three sizes. I've seen old MTB & Touring large frames with 26" and the riders didn't seem to mind. I'll

Re: [RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Joe Bernard
I parked near American Cyclery once many years ago. Never again! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.co

Re: [RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread David Person
I have both an XT and the SunXCD on bikes of mine. I have not noticed a difference in performance between them. The XCD has a barrel adjuster, the XT doesn't. As far as the XCD being the same derailleur as the MicroShift R10, it's apparent from looking at pictures of each that they are not th

[RBW] Re: Could the end be near? Spring and happy Phil pawls

2016-02-17 Thread Mark Reimer
Good question! I did a quick Google and it seems they have their own brand of 'all season' oil, but I didn't find anything else. I've tried Phil pawl lube, tenacious oil, 10w40 motor oil, various chain lubes, etc. Triflow is the only thing I've found to work consistently below -10C. Even -5C w

[RBW] Re: 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread dougP
My wife has a 47 cm Atlantis with 26" wheels, shod with 1.5" tires. I have a 58 cm Atlantis with 700c wheels. She has been known to leave me behind if she feels like it. Any claimed performance differences based on wheel size are lost on me. dougP On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 10:46:53

[RBW] Re: Could the end be near? Spring and happy Phil pawls

2016-02-17 Thread dougP
What lube is used in Rohloff hubs? That would seem to be a tricky problem, given all the whirling bits. And the Germans deal with real winter. Maybe ATF? dougP On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 12:18:04 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Amazing how our mitochondria adapt to the seasons so

[RBW] Re: Could the end be near? Spring and happy Phil pawls

2016-02-17 Thread Deacon Patrick
Amazing how our mitochondria adapt to the seasons so swiftly, helping us generate heat more than go in the winter and go more than heat in the winter. perhaps poor Phil's pawls need a mitochondria lube? Grin. Love your pictures as always! With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 a

Re: [RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Surlyprof
I appreciated everyone's quick feedback on this. That xcd looks great but, for the sake of convenience, supporting riv and cost, I went with the xt. They had dropped the price to $75. The xcd would cost me $120 or more and a trip over the bridge (and have you ever tried to park near American

Re: [RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Surlyprof
The research I did this morning implies that the xcd was more of a touring randonneur derailleur whereas the xt was more of a mountain one. John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiv

Re: [RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread René Sterental
I mean, the Sun XCD? How does it compare to the Shimano XT series? On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 11:35 AM, René Sterental wrote: > How does this one compare to the Shimano XT? Had never heard of it. > > René > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 10:27 PM, Lungimsam wrote: > >> SunXCD rear derailer. >> Its all

[RBW] Could the end be near? Spring and happy Phil pawls

2016-02-17 Thread Mark Reimer
I wrapped up a glorious weekend of riding yesterday. Temperatures rose to just below freezing. After sitting in the deep freeze so long, my body is all out of wack and was feeling quite happy to ride for a few hours in nothing but a wool jersey and jeans. It's funny, because come October I woul

Re: [RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread René Sterental
How does this one compare to the Shimano XT? Had never heard of it. René On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 10:27 PM, Lungimsam wrote: > SunXCD rear derailer. > Its all silver. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe f

[RBW] Re: 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread iamkeith
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned "stability." I don't have enough experience to really know if it's true but, along with the worldwide availability, I always thought that was one of the main arguments for 26" wheels. Basically, the idea that the lower gyroscopic center of gravity of the w

[RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Clayton.sf
works very well with the xd2 crank and 8 speed chain. the longer cable pull even makes for more subtle trimmng. On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 9:16:23 AM UTC-8, Chad wrote: > > Hmm, I never thought about using the Shimano 9-speed bar ends in friction > mode to support a clutched rear deraile

Re: [RBW] Re: Possible FS: 2TT 64 Atlantis

2016-02-17 Thread Mike Williams
5'11+, 89.5 pbh Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 17, 2016, at 9:50 AM, 'Stephen Kemp' via RBW Owners Bunch > wrote: > > For reference, what height/pbh are you? > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from thi

[RBW] Re: Possible FS: 2TT 64 Atlantis

2016-02-17 Thread 'Stephen Kemp' via RBW Owners Bunch
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Jim Bronson
I have the Microshift R10 also and it works great and looks pretty in shiny silver. On Feb 17, 2016 08:49, "Ron Mc" wrote: > Adding to the SunXCD choice is the Microshift R10, which is the same > derailleur at lower cost. Aside from that, I would dodge the low-end > Shimano in favor of improved

[RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Lungimsam
Be sure to click on the pic of the XCD in the catalog mentioned above so you can see the sparkle effect. It does that when you hit 30mph. ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Lungimsam
Here's a catalog of rear derailers that Rivendell bike riders use. Please feel free to keep adding to the list, everyone! https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/WHAT$20DO$20RIVENDELL$20RIDERS/rbw-owners-bunch/LHVpR62Ov-I/JIxhMiFMr-IJ -- You received this message because yo

[RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Lungimsam
Here is a reference catalog of derailers riv riders use. Feel free to keep adding to the list everyone! https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/Rear$20derailers/rbw-owners-bunch/LHVpR62Ov-I -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW O

[RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Chad
Hmm, I never thought about using the Shimano 9-speed bar ends in friction mode to support a clutched rear derailer. I believe all the clutch deraillers are 10-speed. I wonder how this would work with the XD2 crank? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "

[RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Clayton.sf
To add one more o this. If you friction shift you can make a modern xt derailer work despite the different cable pull. At least it works with my 8 speed shimano ultegra shifters. Shifts very well across the whole cassette. Main reason to go that route is to get a clutched derailer. So much quiet

[RBW] Possible FS: 2TT 64 Atlantis

2016-02-17 Thread Michael Williams
hey group, Just putting this out there to see if theres any interest. Its a 64cm Atlantis, 2 top tubes, ~ 18months young! The bike is just a bit too big. Asking $1500 for frame/ fork/ headset. If at all interested, message me off list please! Thanks! -Mike -- You received this

[RBW] Re: 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread 'Steve D.' via RBW Owners Bunch
When I first built my '03 Atlantis (51 cm), a friend gave me an earful of criticism for have 26" wheels--"Your bike will be too slow. "You should've gotten 700cc wheels." Uggh. Really, I've been riding/commuting on this bike, off and on, for 13 years. It's the most comfortable bike I've eve

[RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Surlyprof
Wow! Thanks everyone. This is very helpful. I hadn't thought about Jeff's suggestion of the "semi-vintage" XT derailleurs of the '90's. I used to use both of those and couldn't kill either on previous mountain bikes I’ve owned. Unfortunately, I need to purchase and install something toda

[RBW] Re: Clems for Kids

2016-02-17 Thread Deacon Patrick
The approach we decided to take with Clementines and kids is to buy mediums as the most likely to fit once they are full grown. Our 12 and 15 year olds are riding and loving them, to the point that I'd like to get our next round of two Isla bikes for the age you're talking about. We started out

[RBW] Clems for Kids

2016-02-17 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
The PSA about the 45cm Clem got me thinking. I am tempted to buy it for my little guy, but a Clementine would make more sense, since the high bar version requires a minimum of 73cm PBH, while the low will accommodate a 67cm PBH. Then I noticed that Riv is selling a blemished black 45cm Clementi

Re: [RBW] Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Chad
I too use the M772 XT rear derailer that Riv sells on my Sam and it's been fantastic. It survived a 3-mile section of mud last year in the Dirty Kanza when ever other rider was snapping rear derailers. That being said, my Roadeo demo from Riv oddly enough has the cheapo Claris mid-cage rear de

[RBW] Re: OT- Seattle road trip recommendations

2016-02-17 Thread bo richardson
Anacortes is not a bad option. The Islands are not a bad option.you can take a ferry to Vancouver Island and Victoria from Friday Harbor. the candian dollar is weak right now so a side trip to Victoria is a nice day or two. if you travel light you dont need a car. I think the airporter shuttle go

[RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Will
I have an Altus. It works like Riv says it does. Shifts well, trims easily. For 20-something bucks what's to lose? On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 9:25:45 PM UTC-6, Surlyprof wrote: > > Riding my canti-Hillborne to work today, my pedals came to a very abrupt > stop. One of the chain links pop

[RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Ron Mc
Adding to the SunXCD choice is the Microshift R10, which is the same derailleur at lower cost. Aside from that, I would dodge the low-end Shimano in favor of improved materials and Q/C on the higher-grade choices. Since the 70s, Shimano has designed a weight-saving stress-riser into all their

[RBW] Re: Stop, Swap and Save 2016

2016-02-17 Thread KenP
Thanks for the nice pictures. I went too and bought a Riv cap and the Reader from Gravel and Grind; Frederick is an equally long drive, but it would be nice to visit and test ride James' Hunq which is a size 51. Glad to know you two went. Cheers, Ken On Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 4:33:06 P

Re: [RBW] Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado
I love my XT shadow on my Sam. Jon >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

Re: [RBW] Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Tim Gavin
I use the XT RD-M772 "shadow" derailleur on my Riv. The M770 version of that RD has "normal" cable routing. On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 7:04 AM, Bruce Baker wrote: > Joe, > Check out ebay there are a few listed that are pretty cheap. > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 10:25 PM, Surlyprof wrote: > >> Ridi

[RBW] FS: 58cm Sam Hillborne needs a home $1150 OBO

2016-02-17 Thread Elton Pope-Lance
Recent financial speed bumps mean this project isn’t going to happen. Final price drop before it goes to eBay. This is a new, never built green frameset. BB and headset installed. Seat post included. $1150 shipped lower 48. Save $150 on a new frame and get free shipping! PayPal plus fees (or Fri

Re: [RBW] Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Bruce Baker
Joe, Check out ebay there are a few listed that are pretty cheap. On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 10:25 PM, Surlyprof wrote: > Riding my canti-Hillborne to work today, my pedals came to a very abrupt > stop. One of the chain links popped and hooked the rear cage. Not as bad > as Grant's incident on th

[RBW] Re: Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread WETH
John, Sorry to learn of your mechanical issues and glad you got home easily enough. I have used many different derailers over the years. Currently I use the Altus on 2 Rivs, a Nashbar/microshift on 3 bikes, and a Deore on another. I honestly cannot tell the difference. (Good wine is also w

[RBW] Rear derailer on my Hillborne

2016-02-17 Thread Jeff Bogdanovich
I'm running a short cage claris on my Sam and I've been happy with it- that is to say, I don't think about it and just seems to work. It is nice choice for about $30. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this