Re: [RBW] Re: Velocity Dyad/Aerohead vs Atlas

2016-10-06 Thread Reed Kennedy
Andrew, Why not consider the A23? I consider it rather the best of all worlds. Plus it's available OC (if that's your thing) and you have the option of going tubeless if you ever decide to give that a try. I've got Atlas on my Hunq and A23 on my MAP. My next wheelset will be another with A23s in

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's Stock on Bike Forums has Appreciated

2016-10-06 Thread Reed Kennedy
Of note: Eroica California now allows bikes with aero brake levers so long as they don't have built in shifters: http://www.eroicacalifornia.com/registration Bar-end shifters are ok too, so long as they don't index. Personally, my impression of the event depends on how I consider it: When I

Re: [RBW] Re: Velocity Dyad/Aerohead vs Atlas

2016-10-06 Thread René Sterental
I'm running them on Atlas, the polished version. The look is stunning and I'm working on losing the 100g myself... :-) René On Thursday, October 6, 2016, BSWP wrote: > I'm getting a new frame built up, it's designed for wide tires, and will > never see less than 38mm Soma

Re: [RBW] Re: Velocity Dyad/Aerohead vs Atlas

2016-10-06 Thread BSWP
I'm getting a new frame built up, it's designed for wide tires, and will never see less than 38mm Soma C-Lines, but will start off with those lovely new 44mm 700c Compass Snoquamie Pass gumwalls. The Velocity Page shows me that Dyads are 24mm external and 18.6mm internal, and have 525g mass,

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's Stock on Bike Forums has Appreciated

2016-10-06 Thread Patrick Moore
I am pretty sure bar end shifters are allowed, since they were quite common in the peloton in the '40s and '50s, if not '60s. Yep; http://www.eroicagaiole.com/regulation. Also, Rivendells too have to meet the criteria; mine as presently ridden, would not. It's all a bit precious, though I can

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's Stock on Bike Forums has Appreciated

2016-10-06 Thread Joe Bernard
Any lugged steel bike is approved, including Rivs and a new Bianchi created just for the event. You're right about non-aero levers, clips-and-straps and dt. I don't think bar-ends are allowed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's Stock on Bike Forums has Appreciated

2016-10-06 Thread Patrick Moore
At least *this* was funny! If Off Topic. On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Garth wrote: > > Why thank you Patrick Moore . . . . I am already home thank you , and > I'm having s'moore's for dessert ! Hey . . that's A-moore' ! ! > > > Sing-sing-sing a--long-tyme . .

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's Stock on Bike Forums has Appreciated

2016-10-06 Thread Garth
https://youtu.be/1TWhFmCRdoU On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 7:16:48 PM UTC-4, Garth wrote: > > > Why thank you Patrick Moore . . . . I am already home thank you , and > I'm having s'moore's for dessert ! Hey . . that's A-moore' ! ! > > > Sing-sing-sing a--long-tyme . . . . >

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's Stock on Bike Forums has Appreciated

2016-10-06 Thread Garth
Why thank you Patrick Moore . . . . I am already home thank you , and I'm having s'moore's for dessert ! Hey . . that's A-moore' ! ! Sing-sing-sing a--long-tyme . . . . *When a moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie That's amoore When the world seems to shine like

[RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: Compass McClure Pass tire height and width?

2016-10-06 Thread Patrick Moore
And yes, Panracer did at one time at least make a 559 X 32/1.25 Pasela, which I used for years in non-Tourguard form. Alas, the last time I looked, only the Tourguard was available in that size. Decent tires for the price, but not IMO worth 1/4 of the cost of the Elk Pass! On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at

[RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: Compass McClure Pass tire height and width?

2016-10-06 Thread Patrick Moore
You are right: 1.5 or 38. However, if they measure similarly to the Elk Passes, with a 9+% shortfall, then perhaps they may measure close to 32 on a 23 mm rim? Not that *I* am complaining about the perfect 559 28 mm tire! On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Justin Hughes wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's Stock on Bike Forums has Appreciated

2016-10-06 Thread Patrick Moore
Garth, please go home. On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Garth wrote: > > BF and all "opinions" , no matter who gives them, are really just > complete and utter nonsense as we're all just repeating the same ol' stuff > . . . .and we just can't help ourselves . .

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's Stock on Bike Forums has Appreciated

2016-10-06 Thread Patrick Moore
When I reach Hampsten's stature, I'm sure they'll let me enter a non-modified Rivendell! On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 4:14 PM, Brewster Fong wrote: > > > On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 1:39:23 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: >> >> OHO. Oh, no. No no no no; no old mountain bikes;

Re: [RBW] Re: Best allen keys?

2016-10-06 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks. One reason I chose the folding collection is that I want sets for each of 3 bikes, and it was much cheaper to by the folding sets than to buy 3 each of the individual keys I need, 3 or 4 depending on the bike (5, 4, 2.5 or 3 for Shimano pedal tension, and a 6 for the 2 with NItto quill

[RBW] Re: Grant's Stock on Bike Forums has Appreciated

2016-10-06 Thread Garth
BF and all "opinions" , no matter who gives them, are really just complete and utter nonsense as we're all just repeating the same ol' stuff . . . .and we just can't help ourselves . . .ahahahaahahahaha ! ! ! There is no "new" thought or idea, no one owns them either . Ponder

[RBW] Re: Best allen keys?

2016-10-06 Thread reynoldslugs
+1 on Weras... http://www.all-spec.com/Catalog/Hand-Power-Tools/Wrenches-Accessories/Hex-Wrench-Sets/05022088003-47811?gclid=CPHYh82Zx88CFQyAfgod1LMADA I like the feel of them. Well made. Max B -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's Stock on Bike Forums has Appreciated

2016-10-06 Thread Brewster Fong
On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 1:39:23 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > > OHO. Oh, no. No no no no; no old mountain bikes; this is very, very > strictly Old School Roadie: no clipless, no aero levers, and I think that > shifting is limited to dt and bar ends. Wool and leather and steel highly

[RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: Compass McClure Pass tire height and width?

2016-10-06 Thread Joe Broach
Patrick, I imagine the casing is better, and maybe even the rubber compound, but I'm not excited to see that Pasela tread on a Compass tire. Best, joe pdx or On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 2:11 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > They are labeled 1.4", so I guess 36 as most. If small,

[RBW] Re: FS: Albatross Cockpit & Paul Thumbies (with sticker!)

2016-10-06 Thread Mike K.
All sold. Thanks, everyone! On Monday, October 3, 2016 at 10:58:50 AM UTC-5, Mike K. wrote: > > Bump and price drop. > > Alba cockpit now $140 shipped CONUS. > > Let me know if you are interested. > > - Mike > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Re: kalloy dirt drop stems...

2016-10-06 Thread Richard Rios
I like kalloy products. Not specifically tried that stem but never had an issue with any of their products. If I'm not mistaken seatposts that come on Sam's and Chevoits are kalloy. Surly specs their stuff to. Not bad endorsments from a durability perspective. I'd use it in a heart beat and not

[RBW] Re: Show off how well your riv would've held up compared to the crabon

2016-10-06 Thread Daniel D.
exactly, expected better from you of all people garth :p On Tuesday, October 4, 2016 at 2:18:39 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote: > > Oh, forget what I said, rationalizing and reasoning is just no fun ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] Re: kalloy dirt drop stems...

2016-10-06 Thread Garth
Don't let the price fool you or sway you, thinking either high price makes for better quality than lesser price, these stems have been around a long time and are just fine, . On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 3:05:07 PM UTC-4, Patch T wrote: > > Hi Bunch, > > I have a Nitto dirt drop stem on

[RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: Compass McClure Pass tire height and width?

2016-10-06 Thread Patrick Moore
They are labeled 1.4", so I guess 36 as most. If small, perhaps they'll be a true 32? 32 will fit under my fenders. I would jump, except that these are not the extra lights, and that I am so happy with the ~28 mm Elk Passes. Joe: I think I've read that all Compass tires, albeit made by Panracer,

Re: [RBW] Compass McClure Pass tire height and width?

2016-10-06 Thread Joe Broach
Did I miss the announcement on the McClure? They look like souped up Paselas to my eye, and nothing like the rest of the recent line up. Would also be interested in a true width for the 92 XO-1 in the family. Best, joe pdx or On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Patrick Moore

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's Stock on Bike Forums has Appreciated

2016-10-06 Thread Patrick Moore
OHO. Oh, no. No no no no; no old mountain bikes; this is very, very strictly Old School Roadie: no clipless, no aero levers, and I think that shifting is limited to dt and bar ends. Wool and leather and steel highly preferred. Approved bikes date from the early 20th century thru the '70s, IIRC. I

[RBW] Re: Your bike ride better with upright bars than drops?

2016-10-06 Thread drew
i've gone the opposite way as well. at one time, all my bikes had albatross-like bars, which was a recoiling from uncomfortable drops on more raceish bikes. ended up trying 46cm noodles on my sam set up at saddle height with comfortable brake hoods and it has been dreamy on my wrists, easy on

[RBW] Re: kalloy dirt drop stems...

2016-10-06 Thread drew
ive used kalloy stems and seatposts on a number of budget bikes over the years. never had a problem. i dont think i ever took those bikes on any crazy trails or anything, so they werent pushed to any limits. aesthetics are what you would expect. i actually think they are a pretty good deal

[RBW] kalloy dirt drop stems...

2016-10-06 Thread Patch T
Hi Bunch, I have a Nitto dirt drop stem on my QB with NItto 135 and I of course love everything about it... That said, I'm building up a slightly-budgety all-rounder from an '85 Trek 850. I want it all black. Because all my other bikes are silvery. And just because. Question, how are Kalloy

[RBW] Re: Grant's Stock on Bike Forums has Appreciated

2016-10-06 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
I had to look up Eroica. Sounds like a fun scene. Especially if they include 80's MTB's! On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 9:54:42 AM UTC-5, Scott McLain wrote: > > Wow that exchange was painful! I did get a chuckle out of some of it. I > think Mobile 155's glass is definitely half empty.

[RBW] SOLD! Multi tools and allens for sale

2016-10-06 Thread Patrick Moore
On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > 1. Serfas multitool, missing case. This is several years old, but still VG > except for the case. All you need to tear down and rebuild your threadless > headset, external bearing bike in the wilderness (almost). > >

[RBW] Compass McClure Pass tire height and width?

2016-10-06 Thread Patrick Moore
Compass couldn't give me the information, doubtless due to caution about returns and irate customers shouting about mis-sizing, but I wonder if any listmember can do so? There just *might* be room under fenders on the '03 for this 1.4" 'specially if they run narrow, as the EPs do. So, question:

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's Stock on Bike Forums has Appreciated

2016-10-06 Thread Ron Mc
I'm even adding a bar bag to my go-fast this winter - hopefully Ely is making it this week On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 10:23:45 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > That snide remark would have inflamed me; stupid woman; a casual (by > Grant's standards) cyclist making fun of someone who's

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's Stock on Bike Forums has Appreciated

2016-10-06 Thread Patrick Moore
That snide remark would have inflamed me; stupid woman; a casual (by Grant's standards) cyclist making fun of someone who's been deep inthe business for decades. I'd immediately have said something like, "You must be a Fred." This makes me want to put basket on my bikes (even though I hate

[RBW] Re: Grant's Stock on Bike Forums has Appreciated

2016-10-06 Thread Scott McLain
Wow that exchange was painful! I did get a chuckle out of some of it. I think Mobile 155's glass is definitely half empty. I am still getting my head around the Rivendell paradigm. I loved Grant's recent story about the girl who saw him on a trail on Mount Diablo and laughed at him and

[RBW] Re: Your bike ride better with upright bars than drops?

2016-10-06 Thread Beth H
I flirted with drops again and again, partly because I worked in the industry and the cool kids were all commuting on drops and partly because I dabbled briefly in road time trialing and rando riding. I tried every sort of drop bar over a period of aboout fifteen years: Randonneur (which

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's Stock on Bike Forums has Appreciated

2016-10-06 Thread Jim Bronson
MAKE WEB FORUMS GREAT AGAIN!!! ;) I don't mind being called out by a person with a thoughtful response, often times, I will learn something by listening and be enriched by it. But mindless rants, well, I have to agree with Ron, it's better to just block people who just post a continuous stream

[RBW] Anyone doing Seagull Century Saturday in Maryland?

2016-10-06 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Nope,. Have a good ride though! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

[RBW] Re: Oh no, baskets catching on among the young!

2016-10-06 Thread Tony DeFilippo
That Arc'teryx bag is neat! Great coffee or picnic solution... Might not have much over my shop sack for regular commute activity but I'll keep an eye on it. Might gift one to my wife if I can get one that matches her Clementine! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's Stock on Bike Forums has Appreciated

2016-10-06 Thread Ron Mc
People call you out there for no good reason. There is a general reaction that "my way is best" and anything different is somehow trying to take away their choices. Any time you're quoted, it's automatically flagged, essentially giving you a chore to open it. The people who are pointless

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's Stock on Bike Forums has Appreciated

2016-10-06 Thread Scott Henry
I must be one of the few whom enjoys the banter. I don't get much out constant agreement, I more like a debate class. I don't want two differing opinions, I enjoy all opinions, even the ones you guys call "crazy' or 'rude". That's what makes life fun for me.Its also what keeps me from

[RBW] Re: Oh no, baskets catching on among the young!

2016-10-06 Thread RJM
To be fair, some seem to call everybody freds there. When I lived in Chicago and rode my bike everywhere I used to use a front basket and a stretchy net thing and I would just toss my backpack in there. It worked great and was cheap, relatively light, and theft proof. No need for special bags

[RBW] Re: Autumn Gravel Ramble in Michigan

2016-10-06 Thread Marc Irwin
Last minute bump. This is the last day to register for the Fall Fondo. Well meet up on the Courthouse lawn between 9 and ten. Marc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: Your bike ride better with upright bars than drops?

2016-10-06 Thread KenP
This depends on how one uses the bicycle. I have been using Albatros bars on my Saluki with a big tall motorcycle style mirror on the left side and sitting upright for commuting in traffic, however, last year I picked up a LeTour and experimented with the drop bars. This bicycle is lighter