Re: [RBW] Re: RBW Website - Riv Staff bike builds

[Joe Bernard]

The site has improved some in the last couple days. I suspect staff bikes will 
show up again eventually.

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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW Website - Riv Staff bike builds

[Scott Loveless]

There's always https://www.flickr.com/groups/rbwstaffbikes/

Didn't they do this with the previous site redesign, only bringing
back the staff bikes due to "popular demand" or some such?  I'd
imagine they have priorities related to running a business and
pictures of their own bikes will resurface when someone has a slow day
or two.

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
> Igor asked about a Staff Bikes Gallery on rivbike.com.
>
> Presumably there is something specific you are looking for.  If there is,
> then you should be able to use the wayback machine to locate the page you
> are after.  If you don't know what the wayback machine is, it's a website
> that takes internet snapshots of a large percentage of the entire internet.
> If you know the url you care about, and you know roughly when in time you
> want a snapshot of that url, then you can browse for it on the wayback
> machine.  If you just want to idly browse through photographs of Rivendells
> because its diverting, then the wayback machine won't be fun for you,
> particularly if you don't know what it is or how to use it.  For idle
> browsing of Rivendell photos, there's always flickr.  If you specifically
> and exclusively demand a browsable Staff Bikes Gallery and only want to find
> it on rivbike.com, then 'Cannot locate' was a correct statement.  There is
> no such gallery on the new site.  If you want to determine whether there
> will be, call in and ask Dave, perhaps.  Whenever I move, it's an
> opportunity to shed clutter, and maybe they did the same thing.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>
> On Sunday, November 20, 2016 at 5:48:06 PM UTC-8, Belopsky wrote:
>>
>> Where they at? Cannot locate..
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[RBW] Re: Need help choosing rear hub for Soma San Marcos

[CMR]

11 speed shimano and campagnolo cassettes are compatible too, what group do 
you have?

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS 53cm Roadeo

[bo richardson]

where is the bike physically located?
thanks

bo

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[RBW] Re: Just ride!

[Rod Holland]

Oddly enough, it gets worse:

http://bikebus.com

"Experience Indoor Cycling On The Open Road". 'nuff said...

rod

On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 11:24:08 PM UTC-5, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> sigh. we're doomed...
>
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 6:31:07 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>
>> https://techcrunch.com/2016/11/16/zwift-a-multiplayer-game-thats-making-indoor-athletics-more-social-just-raised-27-million/
>>
>> Courtesy of you-know-who.
>>
>> Let's change that. Let's call it, "Why ride?"
>>
>> Patrick Moore, who Just Rode this afternoon despite wind and gray skies, 
>> and turned a 8 mile rt PO trip into a hilly 17.6 mile Just Ride fixed gear 
>> ride.
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: "Pipe"-style bbs: fit both 68 and 73 mm bb shells?

[Bill Lindsay]

Keith made a comment about Bontrager ROAD Cranks.  I assume it is a correct 
statement.  

Patrick, 

Is Keith's comment germane to the crankset you are selling?  Is your 
crankset a ROAD crankset?  Or, is your for sale crankset a MOUNTAIN 
crankset?

Or more directly, who is getting confused?  You or me?

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA


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>
> Thanks, Keith. Alas and alack, that seems to be the case.
>
> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Keith Muller  > wrote:
>
>> If it is a bontrager x-lite gxp road crank, then it will only work with a 
>> 68mm BB Shell.  The spindle isn't long enough for 73mm BB shells.
>>
>> Keith
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[RBW] Re: Poster post

[MartyG]

>
> This one is my all-time favorite. Just back from the frame shop. Andrew 
> Denman is the artist - he's a familiar name at Rivendell, and right up 
> there with Rebour and Patterson in my book. I live along a stream that is 
> often the fishing grounds for the great blue heron, and I think of this 
> poster every time I stir one up from his lunch break.
>




Check out Andrew's work here... 

 http://andrewdenman.com/index.html

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[RBW] APPALOOSA LOVE

[Jon Dukeman,central Colorado]

Two letters from readers in the new December 16/Jan17  Adventure Cyclist 
issue honking the Appalossa/ Rivendell  horn after the Road test Aug/Sept 
issue.
Editors note..The editor  was so impressed he bought the Appaloosa review 
model.
Jon

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco v2 has landed!

[Jeff Lesperance]

I couldn't say yet as I only have an around the block roll on the wider
rims. I have plans to get some miles in this weekend I I can report back
then.

On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:24 PM Eric Karnes  wrote:

> hi jeff-
>
> other than slight width differences, do the snoqualmie pass tires ride
> differently on the two rims? i have a set of open pros and want to run
> fatter tires. wondering if i need to invest in new rims.
>
> thanks!
>
> eric
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 3:55:40 PM UTC-5, Jeff wrote:
>
> As a follow-up to my problematic wide tires on narrow rims postulation, I
> acquired some XT/Mavic A319 wheels for Rosco today, adding ~5mm of rim
> width over the Open Pros, and did some measuring. I just posted for
> informational purposes on the iBob list, though I'll share here for the few
> of you who might not be subscribed there:
>
> Friends - I recently built up a Rivendell Rosco Bubbe v2 with the only
> 700c wheelset that I had on hand, which featured Mavic Open Pro rims. I
> knew for sure that these were not an appropriate rim for the Compass
> Snoqualmie Pass tires that I intended to run, but I assessed that I've done
> far dumber things than run too-wide tires on too-narrow rims and decided
> this dumb decision probably wouldn't result in my death...
>
> So, I'm here to report that the 700x44 Snoqualmie Pass tires measure
> ~39.5mm on the ~19mm external width / ~14mm internal width Open Pro rims
> and they fit beautifully, errr, with nary much margin for error under the
> SKS 45mm cream longboard fenders (see previous comment about dumb things)...
>
> I'm also here to report that I visited my LBS today, Silver Cycles in
> Silver Spring, MD, and they had a Shimano XT/Mavic A319 wheelset that asked
> to come home with me for Thanksgiving, so I obliged. The A319 measures in
> at ~24mm external / ~19mm internal width, and the Snoqualmie Pass tires now
> measure in at ~41.5mm and the 45mm longboard fenders are a bit more of a
> liability.
>
> Oh, in both cases, for measurement purposes, I inflated the tires to
> ~60psi, which is a higher pressure than I would typically run these
> luscious tires.
>
> -Jeff
> Silver Spring, MD
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 11:18 PM, Ray Varella  wrote:
>
> Back in the 80s, I ran ma-40s that Kieth Bontrager cut a rerolled down to
> 26" rim diameter
> I ran them on my mountain bike for 20 years and never had a problem with
> tires coming off or the rims cracking.
>
> I still have some of the Mavic MA-2s in that size and would not hesitate
> to build them up and run RTP tires.
>
> I'm sure there are theoretical reasons to avoid the skinny rim/fat tire
> combo but in practice it doesn't concern me much.
>
> YMMV
> Ray
> Vallejo CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco v2 has landed!

[Eric Karnes]

hi jeff-

other than slight width differences, do the snoqualmie pass tires ride 
differently on the two rims? i have a set of open pros and want to run 
fatter tires. wondering if i need to invest in new rims.

thanks!

eric



On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 3:55:40 PM UTC-5, Jeff wrote:
>
> As a follow-up to my problematic wide tires on narrow rims postulation, I 
> acquired some XT/Mavic A319 wheels for Rosco today, adding ~5mm of rim 
> width over the Open Pros, and did some measuring. I just posted for 
> informational purposes on the iBob list, though I'll share here for the few 
> of you who might not be subscribed there:
>
> Friends - I recently built up a Rivendell Rosco Bubbe v2 with the only 
> 700c wheelset that I had on hand, which featured Mavic Open Pro rims. I 
> knew for sure that these were not an appropriate rim for the Compass 
> Snoqualmie Pass tires that I intended to run, but I assessed that I've done 
> far dumber things than run too-wide tires on too-narrow rims and decided 
> this dumb decision probably wouldn't result in my death...
>
> So, I'm here to report that the 700x44 Snoqualmie Pass tires measure 
> ~39.5mm on the ~19mm external width / ~14mm internal width Open Pro rims 
> and they fit beautifully, errr, with nary much margin for error under the 
> SKS 45mm cream longboard fenders (see previous comment about dumb things)...
>
> I'm also here to report that I visited my LBS today, Silver Cycles in 
> Silver Spring, MD, and they had a Shimano XT/Mavic A319 wheelset that asked 
> to come home with me for Thanksgiving, so I obliged. The A319 measures in 
> at ~24mm external / ~19mm internal width, and the Snoqualmie Pass tires now 
> measure in at ~41.5mm and the 45mm longboard fenders are a bit more of a 
> liability.
>
> Oh, in both cases, for measurement purposes, I inflated the tires to 
> ~60psi, which is a higher pressure than I would typically run these 
> luscious tires.
>
> -Jeff
> Silver Spring, MD
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 11:18 PM, Ray Varella  > wrote:
>
>> Back in the 80s, I ran ma-40s that Kieth Bontrager cut a rerolled down to 
>> 26" rim diameter
>> I ran them on my mountain bike for 20 years and never had a problem with 
>> tires coming off or the rims cracking.
>>
>> I still have some of the Mavic MA-2s in that size and would not hesitate 
>> to build them up and run RTP tires.
>>
>> I'm sure there are theoretical reasons to avoid the skinny rim/fat tire 
>> combo but in practice it doesn't concern me much.
>>
>> YMMV
>> Ray
>> Vallejo CA
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[RBW] Re: How to crash by yourself

[Ron Mc]

south Texas - I rode in tee shirt and my MUSA knickers were too warm today. 
 
added 5 miles, my ribs came on about halfway, but my shoulders never hurt.  

On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 4:02:43 PM UTC-6, lum gim fong wrote:
>
> Upright in winter...br!!

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[RBW] Joe Appaloosa versus Atlantis

[Joe Bernard]

My Joe has Choco-Moose now, but it started with Noodles on a 10cm Technomic. 
Either seems a perfect fit, which is my favorite attribute of this bike: 
there's a bunch of different bikes in there, depending on what parts you throw 
at it. 

Speaking of parts, I'm going eRiv again. My Clem was fun with the full 
pedal-assist-plus-throttle treatment, but realistically it was too heavy to 
ride without the juice. This time I'm going with a low power front hub, small 
battery, and a simple button to push for a slight boost up my monster hill. I 
want my Appaloosa to still be a bicycle, with a lightweight kit I can easily 
swap out for the original wheel. 

Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

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Re: [RBW] Re: "Pipe"-style bbs: fit both 68 and 73 mm bb shells?

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, Keith. Alas and alack, that seems to be the case.

On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Keith Muller  wrote:

> If it is a bontrager x-lite gxp road crank, then it will only work with a
> 68mm BB Shell.  The spindle isn't long enough for 73mm BB shells.
>
> Keith
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[RBW] Joe Appaloosa versus Atlantis

[Patrick Moore]

Interesting comparo on BLUG on the JA. Two questions:

1. How does the JA fit/feel/ride with drop bars?

2. This question addressed to those who have ridden both: how do they
differ in fit/feel/ride?

Sheesh! Now I want a Roadeo/Roadini *and *an Atlantis-surrogate! And can't
afford either, alas. Just as well.

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[RBW] Re: How to crash by yourself

[lum gim fong]

Upright in winter...br!!

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Re: [RBW] Need help choosing rear hub for Soma San Marcos

[Brewster Fong]

On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 12:45:23 PM UTC-8, Brewster Fong wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 12:42:19 PM UTC-8, Brewster Fong wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 7:32:25 AM UTC-8, Belopsky wrote:
>>>
>>> o..Ashwath looks like you got some reading to do!
>>>
>>> Shimano wont work with Campy. I think there are ways to go about it 
>>> where it does, but basically just don't. I think you need special cables as 
>>> well for Campy bits?
>>>
>>> Rear is 130mm. There are many hubs that support Campy, but they have to 
>>> be Campy specific.. Are you building your own wheels?
>>>
>>
>> One option is to replace the Campy freehub body with one designed for 
>> Shimano cassettes.  Not sure if it works with a Veloce rear hub, but for 
>> the Record/Chorus/Centaur with the oversized axle, but there are a couple 
>> of options:
>>
>> For standard 17mm axle, you will probably need this one:
>>
>>
>> http://www.totalcycling.com/en/Campagnolo-Freehub-Body-For-Shimano-891011-Speed---R1137139-17mm-alloy-axle/m-19018.aspx
>>
>> For 9mm axle, it might be this one:
>>
>>
>> http://www.totalcycling.com/en/Campagnolo-Freehub-Body-For-Shimano-8910-Speed---R1134955-9mm-Steel-Axle/m-19019.aspx
>>
>> You should verify which one will work with your specific hub if 
>> interested. Good Luck!
>>
>
> Apparently, there's also a Campy freehub body for shimano 
> 8/9/10 cassette for a 12mm axle too:
>
>  
> http://www.totalcycling.com/en/Campagnolo-Freehub-Body-For-Shimano-8-9-10sp-With-12mm-Axle/m-22417.aspx
>
> Just need to figure out what size axle you have! 
>

Actually, the 12mm axle might be the one you need as this description 
includes Mirage rear hub with cartridge bearings:


   - Also known as Fulcrum R5-120, identical part 
   - Fits Campagnolo Bullet, pre-2013 Scirocco, pre-2014 Vento and Khamsin 
   wheels including CX variants, Campagnolo Mirage, Veloce and 2007/8 Centaur 
   hubs, Fulcrum Red Wind and pre-2014 Racing 4, 
   - For use with Fulcrum and Campagnolo wheels that use 12mm axles and 
   sealed cartridge bearings 
   - For use with Shimano and SRAM 8, 9, 10 and 11 speed cassettes 
   - Replaces FH-BU015X, WH-KX9 and R5-020 


Note - Fulcrum and Campagnolo are related. I believe Fulcrum is Taiwan made 
Campy parts. 

link:  
https://www.amazon.com/Fulcrum-Campagnolo-Freehub-Shimano-Cassettes/dp/B00BNZZ678/ref=sr_1_2?s=outdoor-recreation=UTF8=1479934913=1-2=campagnolo+freehub+body+for+shimano

So, the Total Cycling hub at $41 is a great deal, if it fits!  Good Luck!  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco v2 has landed!

[Jeff Lesperance]

As a follow-up to my problematic wide tires on narrow rims postulation, I
acquired some XT/Mavic A319 wheels for Rosco today, adding ~5mm of rim
width over the Open Pros, and did some measuring. I just posted for
informational purposes on the iBob list, though I'll share here for the few
of you who might not be subscribed there:

Friends - I recently built up a Rivendell Rosco Bubbe v2 with the only 700c
wheelset that I had on hand, which featured Mavic Open Pro rims. I knew for
sure that these were not an appropriate rim for the Compass Snoqualmie Pass
tires that I intended to run, but I assessed that I've done far dumber
things than run too-wide tires on too-narrow rims and decided this dumb
decision probably wouldn't result in my death...

So, I'm here to report that the 700x44 Snoqualmie Pass tires measure
~39.5mm on the ~19mm external width / ~14mm internal width Open Pro rims
and they fit beautifully, errr, with nary much margin for error under the
SKS 45mm cream longboard fenders (see previous comment about dumb things)...

I'm also here to report that I visited my LBS today, Silver Cycles in
Silver Spring, MD, and they had a Shimano XT/Mavic A319 wheelset that asked
to come home with me for Thanksgiving, so I obliged. The A319 measures in
at ~24mm external / ~19mm internal width, and the Snoqualmie Pass tires now
measure in at ~41.5mm and the 45mm longboard fenders are a bit more of a
liability.

Oh, in both cases, for measurement purposes, I inflated the tires to
~60psi, which is a higher pressure than I would typically run these
luscious tires.

-Jeff
Silver Spring, MD



On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 11:18 PM, Ray Varella 
wrote:

> Back in the 80s, I ran ma-40s that Kieth Bontrager cut a rerolled down to
> 26" rim diameter
> I ran them on my mountain bike for 20 years and never had a problem with
> tires coming off or the rims cracking.
>
> I still have some of the Mavic MA-2s in that size and would not hesitate
> to build them up and run RTP tires.
>
> I'm sure there are theoretical reasons to avoid the skinny rim/fat tire
> combo but in practice it doesn't concern me much.
>
> YMMV
> Ray
> Vallejo CA
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Re: [RBW] Need help choosing rear hub for Soma San Marcos

[Brewster Fong]

On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 12:42:19 PM UTC-8, Brewster Fong wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 7:32:25 AM UTC-8, Belopsky wrote:
>>
>> o..Ashwath looks like you got some reading to do!
>>
>> Shimano wont work with Campy. I think there are ways to go about it where 
>> it does, but basically just don't. I think you need special cables as well 
>> for Campy bits?
>>
>> Rear is 130mm. There are many hubs that support Campy, but they have to 
>> be Campy specific.. Are you building your own wheels?
>>
>
> One option is to replace the Campy freehub body with one designed for 
> Shimano cassettes.  Not sure if it works with a Veloce rear hub, but for 
> the Record/Chorus/Centaur with the oversized axle, but there are a couple 
> of options:
>
> For standard 17mm axle, you will probably need this one:
>
>
> http://www.totalcycling.com/en/Campagnolo-Freehub-Body-For-Shimano-891011-Speed---R1137139-17mm-alloy-axle/m-19018.aspx
>
> For 9mm axle, it might be this one:
>
>
> http://www.totalcycling.com/en/Campagnolo-Freehub-Body-For-Shimano-8910-Speed---R1134955-9mm-Steel-Axle/m-19019.aspx
>
> You should verify which one will work with your specific hub if 
> interested. Good Luck!
>

Apparently, there's also a Campy freehub body for shimano 
8/9/10 cassette for a 12mm axle too:

 
http://www.totalcycling.com/en/Campagnolo-Freehub-Body-For-Shimano-8-9-10sp-With-12mm-Axle/m-22417.aspx

Just need to figure out what size axle you have! 

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Re: [RBW] Need help choosing rear hub for Soma San Marcos

[Brewster Fong]

On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 7:32:25 AM UTC-8, Belopsky wrote:
>
> o..Ashwath looks like you got some reading to do!
>
> Shimano wont work with Campy. I think there are ways to go about it where 
> it does, but basically just don't. I think you need special cables as well 
> for Campy bits?
>
> Rear is 130mm. There are many hubs that support Campy, but they have to be 
> Campy specific.. Are you building your own wheels?
>

One option is to replace the Campy freehub body with one designed for 
Shimano cassettes.  Not sure if it works with a Veloce rear hub, but for 
the Record/Chorus/Centaur with the oversized axle, but there are a couple 
of options:

For standard 17mm axle, you will probably need this one:

http://www.totalcycling.com/en/Campagnolo-Freehub-Body-For-Shimano-891011-Speed---R1137139-17mm-alloy-axle/m-19018.aspx

For 9mm axle, it might be this one:

http://www.totalcycling.com/en/Campagnolo-Freehub-Body-For-Shimano-8910-Speed---R1134955-9mm-Steel-Axle/m-19019.aspx

You should verify which one will work with your specific hub if interested. 
Good Luck!

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS 53cm Roadeo

[Chad]

As much as I want to sell the bike complete, I will entertain the idea of 
selling just the frame/fork/headset/BB.  How does $1500 or best offer sound?

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Re: [RBW] Three great test rides at RBWHQ

[Sky Coulter]

Alright, Jim's bike looks great in that orange. Maybe I just don't like the 
orange in conjunction with the blue of the roadeo headbadge.

Sky in new west

On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 8:06:35 AM UTC-8, JimD wrote:
>
> That orange looks to be similar to the paint on my custom Riv:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/rasterdogs/3041950359/in/album-72157604146015375/
> -JimD 
>
> in Santa Clara, CA.
>
> On Nov 22, 2016, at 1:46 PM, Chris Birkenmaier  > wrote:
>
> I like it!
>
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 4:14:45 PM UTC-5, Sky Coulter wrote:
>>
>> I like orange and obviously it's the fastest color, but that shade hurts 
>> my eyes.
>>
>> Sky in new west
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 1:12:25 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>> On November 8, I reported:
>>>
>>> "While we were talking Mark carried in a bright bright orange Roadeo, 
>>> and told Roman to post it for sale.  I grabbed a tape measure and confirmed 
>>> my guess that it's my size (59cm).  The orange is crazy bright, almost neon 
>>> orange.  Incredible.  "
>>>
>>> I don't know when exactly photos got posted, but now they are posted.  
>>>
>>> BRIGHT Orange Roadeo 
>>> 
>>>
>>> Tell me that's not going to be the fastest Rivendell in history
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

[Ryan Fleming]

And those were really handsome bikes too...I think they may have had Henry 
James lugs

On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 11:03:40 AM UTC-6, Marc Irwin wrote:
>
> I'm fond of my '87 Trek 560.  It's from "back in the day" when they had to 
> sell the Trek brand and still produced Reynolds frames with branded lugs by 
> hand in the USA.  I remember thinking "Wisconsin? That's not even close to 
> Italy!"  I've updated most of the components, went to 700C wheels so bigger 
> tires fit and had it powdercoated but I still like to ride it and it keeps 
> me from coveting a newer road bike.
>
>
> 
>
>
> Marc
>
>
>
> On Saturday, November 19, 2016 at 5:29:29 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> If you wanted the signature Rivendell road ride, but couldn't afford 
>> another custom or the Roadeo (and didn't want the Ram -- tried one), and if 
>> you thought you might look for an old road racing frame from the '70s, what 
>> would you look for? 120 mm OL spacing.
>>
>> After trying out, once again, the S3X hub on the gofast, the hub gear 
>> wheel idea being a quick-swap way to adapt this bike to occasional longer 
>> and hilly rides, I find that the lash is a deal killer. So I want a frame 
>> to build a bike around my AM hub.
>>
>> I'd probably give any such frame to Chauncey to have him remove unneeded 
>> braze-ons (like icky derailleur bosses and hangar), and have him braze on 
>> needed ones, like a roller boss at the seat tube junction and a housing 
>> stop mid-top tube for the trigger cable housing, and then have it powder 
>> coated.
>>
>> I did have a decent 1973 Motobecane 2nd level Record, and that was close 
>> to what I want, but it wasn't cigar level; it didn't handle quite like my 
>> Rivs.
>>
>> (I am tempted to give Chauncey my gofast, and tell him: "Replicate this." 
>> But that would be at least $1200 -- cheap at the price, but more than I 
>> ought to consider at this point.)
>>
>> (Wouldn't it be lovely to have a customized Roadeo, 57 for me, without 
>> the derailleur bits?)
>>
>> Ideas?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Patrick Moore, who just again rode the gofast with 95"/71"/59" S3X in 
>> windy ABQ, NM
>>
>> Aside: As I turned north onto Corrales Road on the way to Stevie's, with 
>> wind blowing from the south, I shifted into the 95" and bowled along 
>> merrily -- until the road turned and the wind quartered and my cadence 
>> dropped like a stone. How much better the ASC would be: you could have that 
>> downhill and tailwind gear at say 80", and at 90% have a 72" cruising and 
>> at 75% a 59" climbing -- though they say that the ASC also had lashings of 
>> lash. The AM, with direct + 11.55% and - 12.5% would give one, say, a 70" 
>> direct, a 78" high, and a 61" low -- very usable gears, not to mention 
>> coasting.
>>
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>>
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>>
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[RBW] Re: FS ::: Mountain Bike Brake Levers, Suntour & Sachs - NEW

[Ryan Ray]

I use cantis and am switching to a flat bar, will any of these work? If so 
I'll take the Dia-Comps and start waiting for the new "Thimble" Thumbies :)

- Ryan


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[RBW] Re: "Pipe"-style bbs: fit both 68 and 73 mm bb shells?

[Keith Muller]

If it is a bontrager x-lite gxp road crank, then it will only work with a 68mm 
BB Shell.  The spindle isn't long enough for 73mm BB shells.

Keith

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[RBW] Re: "Pipe"-style bbs: fit both 68 and 73 mm bb shells?

[Christopher Cote]

The SRAM GXP cranks I have work with both 68 and 73mm BB shells. The BB 
cups come with 2 2.5mm spacers that you use on 68mm shells.


On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 12:44:21 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> See below: does anyone know if the same bb "pipe" spindles will work on 
> both 68 and 73 mm shells? Will the same outboard bearings also work with 
> both?
>
> I know that many square taper systems worked on both sizes-- or, at least, 
> I got them to work on both.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 4:38 PM, Patrick Moore  > wrote:
>
>> Kurt: I really don't know; these are the first integrated spindle/"pipe" 
>> type cranks I've ever used. I'm from the the "cotterless" generation.
>>
>> They worked on the Matthews which has a 68 mm shell. They were originally 
>> on the 1996 Race Lite -- don't know the bb shell width. I do know that the 
>> splines on the left side of the bb "spindle" have what appears to be some 
>> fudge room. (The left arm has a bolt through it that bolts into the center 
>> of the "spindle"; there is no pinch bolt.)
>>
>> Does anyone else know if this sort of crank is bb-width-specific or not?
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 12:58 PM, 'Kurt G.' via internet-bob <
>> intern...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>>
>>> If the cranks work with a 73 mm bb shell, I'd be happy to take 'em.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kurt 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 8:20:25 AM UTC-8, bertin753 wrote:


 2. Bontrager Race X Lite GXP Crankset, 175 mm arms, 4 bolt, *with bb 
 bearings*, smooth. $50 + shipping.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Just ride!

[Patrick Moore]

Time for your meds, Garth.

On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:15 AM, Garth  wrote:

>
> Riding is riding.
>
> Why is why.
>
> The two can't be mixed.
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[RBW] "Pipe"-style bbs: fit both 68 and 73 mm bb shells?

[Patrick Moore]

See below: does anyone know if the same bb "pipe" spindles will work on
both 68 and 73 mm shells? Will the same outboard bearings also work with
both?

I know that many square taper systems worked on both sizes-- or, at least,
I got them to work on both.

Thanks.

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 4:38 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Kurt: I really don't know; these are the first integrated spindle/"pipe"
> type cranks I've ever used. I'm from the the "cotterless" generation.
>
> They worked on the Matthews which has a 68 mm shell. They were originally
> on the 1996 Race Lite -- don't know the bb shell width. I do know that the
> splines on the left side of the bb "spindle" have what appears to be some
> fudge room. (The left arm has a bolt through it that bolts into the center
> of the "spindle"; there is no pinch bolt.)
>
> Does anyone else know if this sort of crank is bb-width-specific or not?
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 12:58 PM, 'Kurt G.' via internet-bob <
> internet-...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> If the cranks work with a 73 mm bb shell, I'd be happy to take 'em.
>> Cheers,
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 8:20:25 AM UTC-8, bertin753 wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> 2. Bontrager Race X Lite GXP Crankset, 175 mm arms, 4 bolt, *with bb
>>> bearings*, smooth. $50 + shipping.
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Just ride!

[ascpgh]

Not these riders:http://bikecult.com/works/rollers06INFO.html

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 12:09:38 AM UTC-5, dougP wrote:
>
> "...caters to indoor cyclists"  There's an oxymoron if ever I heard 
> one!  
>
> dougP
>
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 3:31:07 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>
>> https://techcrunch.com/2016/11/16/zwift-a-multiplayer-game-thats-making-indoor-athletics-more-social-just-raised-27-million/
>>
>> Courtesy of you-know-who.
>>
>> Let's change that. Let's call it, "Why ride?"
>>
>> Patrick Moore, who Just Rode this afternoon despite wind and gray skies, 
>> and turned a 8 mile rt PO trip into a hilly 17.6 mile Just Ride fixed gear 
>> ride.
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>>
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>>
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>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Need help choosing rear hub for Soma San Marcos

[Steve Palincsar]

On 11/23/2016 12:22 PM, Jim Bronson wrote:

http://www.interlocracing.com/cassettes-freewheels/10-speed-elite-road-conversion-cassette

these are an expensive solution but if you want to use a Shimano hub 
with a Campy drivetrain.


Another solution is the Jtek Shiftmate, way cheaper.  Just use a 
Shimano hub and cassette with your Campy shifter and derailer.


http://www.jtekengineering.com/shiftmate/shiftmate-1/



And I understand Campagnolo Ero 11 will shift a Shimano 9 speed 
drivetrain (i.e., Shimano hub, cassette & derailleurs) perfectly with no 
adapters required.


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Re: [RBW] Need help choosing rear hub for Soma San Marcos

[Jim Bronson]

http://www.interlocracing.com/cassettes-freewheels/10-speed-elite-road-conversion-cassette

these are an expensive solution but if you want to use a Shimano hub with a
Campy drivetrain.

Another solution is the Jtek Shiftmate, way cheaper.  Just use a Shimano
hub and cassette with your Campy shifter and derailer.

http://www.jtekengineering.com/shiftmate/shiftmate-1/

On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:

>
>
> On 11/23/2016 11:45 AM, Justin August wrote:
>
>> In addition to everything noted you used to be able to get cassettes
>> customized with Shimano cogs but using Campy spacers so that you get the
>> right spacing to fit the indexing but with Shimano/SRAM cog and hub
>> compatibility.
>>
>>
> From where, and is something like this still available?
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Re: [RBW] Need help choosing rear hub for Soma San Marcos

[Jim Bronson]

Buy a NOS older Campy hub, 9-11 are compatible.  Pre-2006 are especially
good.  Campy made lots of silver ones.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/CAMPAGNOLO-CENTAUR-REAR-HUB-36-HOLES-OS-BEARING-SYSTEM-/272454870554?hash=item3f6f93661a:g:JVIAAOSwcLxYE4CN

geez I sold mine on this group way too cheap, after checking eBay.  Had a
Chorus and a Record hub, pre 2006 silver.  The Chorus had only been ridden
a few miles.

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Ashwath Akirekadu 
wrote:

> I've ordered Campy Veloce groupset.  Having a hard time finding Campy hub
> in silver color.
>
> What is the axle width for this bike?  100mm or 130mm?
>
> Also, would Tiagra rear hub work with Campy cassette?
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Re: [RBW] Need help choosing rear hub for Soma San Marcos

[Dan McNamara]

And a 10-speed option: 

http://www.probikekit.com/bicycle-cassettes-sprockets/ambrosio-cassette-shimano-fit-for-campagnolo-10-speed/10768425.html



> On Nov 23, 2016, at 9:04 AM, Igor Belopolsky  
> wrote:
> 
> Here's a quick search http://wheelsmfg.com/products/rear-drivetrain.html
> 
>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11/23/2016 11:45 AM, Justin August wrote:
>>> In addition to everything noted you used to be able to get cassettes 
>>> customized with Shimano cogs but using Campy spacers so that you get the 
>>> right spacing to fit the indexing but with Shimano/SRAM cog and hub 
>>> compatibility.
>>> 
>> 
>> From where, and is something like this still available?
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Re: [RBW] Need help choosing rear hub for Soma San Marcos

[Igor Belopolsky]

Here's a quick search http://wheelsmfg.com/products/rear-drivetrain.html

On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:

>
>
> On 11/23/2016 11:45 AM, Justin August wrote:
>
>> In addition to everything noted you used to be able to get cassettes
>> customized with Shimano cogs but using Campy spacers so that you get the
>> right spacing to fit the indexing but with Shimano/SRAM cog and hub
>> compatibility.
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

[Marc Irwin]

I'm fond of my '87 Trek 560.  It's from "back in the day" when they had to 
sell the Trek brand and still produced Reynolds frames with branded lugs by 
hand in the USA.  I remember thinking "Wisconsin? That's not even close to 
Italy!"  I've updated most of the components, went to 700C wheels so bigger 
tires fit and had it powdercoated but I still like to ride it and it keeps 
me from coveting a newer road bike.




Marc



On Saturday, November 19, 2016 at 5:29:29 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> If you wanted the signature Rivendell road ride, but couldn't afford 
> another custom or the Roadeo (and didn't want the Ram -- tried one), and if 
> you thought you might look for an old road racing frame from the '70s, what 
> would you look for? 120 mm OL spacing.
>
> After trying out, once again, the S3X hub on the gofast, the hub gear 
> wheel idea being a quick-swap way to adapt this bike to occasional longer 
> and hilly rides, I find that the lash is a deal killer. So I want a frame 
> to build a bike around my AM hub.
>
> I'd probably give any such frame to Chauncey to have him remove unneeded 
> braze-ons (like icky derailleur bosses and hangar), and have him braze on 
> needed ones, like a roller boss at the seat tube junction and a housing 
> stop mid-top tube for the trigger cable housing, and then have it powder 
> coated.
>
> I did have a decent 1973 Motobecane 2nd level Record, and that was close 
> to what I want, but it wasn't cigar level; it didn't handle quite like my 
> Rivs.
>
> (I am tempted to give Chauncey my gofast, and tell him: "Replicate this." 
> But that would be at least $1200 -- cheap at the price, but more than I 
> ought to consider at this point.)
>
> (Wouldn't it be lovely to have a customized Roadeo, 57 for me, without the 
> derailleur bits?)
>
> Ideas?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Patrick Moore, who just again rode the gofast with 95"/71"/59" S3X in 
> windy ABQ, NM
>
> Aside: As I turned north onto Corrales Road on the way to Stevie's, with 
> wind blowing from the south, I shifted into the 95" and bowled along 
> merrily -- until the road turned and the wind quartered and my cadence 
> dropped like a stone. How much better the ASC would be: you could have that 
> downhill and tailwind gear at say 80", and at 90% have a 72" cruising and 
> at 75% a 59" climbing -- though they say that the ASC also had lashings of 
> lash. The AM, with direct + 11.55% and - 12.5% would give one, say, a 70" 
> direct, a 78" high, and a 61" low -- very usable gears, not to mention 
> coasting.
>
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Re: [RBW] Need help choosing rear hub for Soma San Marcos

[Steve Palincsar]

On 11/23/2016 11:45 AM, Justin August wrote:

In addition to everything noted you used to be able to get cassettes customized 
with Shimano cogs but using Campy spacers so that you get the right spacing to 
fit the indexing but with Shimano/SRAM cog and hub compatibility.



From where, and is something like this still available?

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Re: [RBW] Need help choosing rear hub for Soma San Marcos

[Justin August]

In addition to everything noted you used to be able to get cassettes customized 
with Shimano cogs but using Campy spacers so that you get the right spacing to 
fit the indexing but with Shimano/SRAM cog and hub compatibility. 

-Justin

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[RBW] Re: FS ::: Mountain Bike Brake Levers, Suntour & Sachs - NEW

[Kai Vierstra]

Is there any reach adjustability on the Dia-Compe levers? I'm currently using 
the ugliest Avids ever, but they've got adjustable cable pull and adjustable 
reach, but carry the terrible price of horrifically gross looking. 
I'm still dreaming of a lever that has adjustable angle/pitch to the bar, that 
could mount way forward into the curve on some boscos without splaying out the 
side too much, but I think that's a pipe dream.
-Kai Vierstra 
Brooklyn NY 

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Re: [RBW] Need help choosing rear hub for Soma San Marcos

[Dan McNamara]

The VO hub is a good option. 

The White Industries T11 is another - although more expensive. Ben's Cycles has 
the silver campy version for about $240. 

Ben's also has a Miche hub set with a Campy rear - don't know anything about 
that set but might be worth research. 

You could run a Shimergo setup but you will loose minimum one gear depending 
how you set it up. I have a Campy ergo 10-speed shifting a Shimano 8-speed 
cassette on one bike. It shifts great front and rear. Might be worth research. 

Dan



> On Nov 22, 2016, at 8:59 PM, Tim Gavin  wrote:
> 
> Rear axle Over Locknut Diameter (OLD) is 130 mm for the San Marcos. The 
> Tiagra rear hub would fit the frame, but the freehub won't support a 
> Campagnolo cassette.
> 
> The Velo Orange Gran Cru rear hub is available in 130 mm OLD and a Campagnolo 
> freehub body, for $160. I'm very happy with mine.
> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/wheelsets-rims-hubs/hubs/grand-cru-4-bearing-hub.html
> 
> The freehub pawls were a bit noisy at first; I added a tiny dab of grease to 
> each to quiet them.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 22, 2016, at 7:24 PM, Ashwath Akirekadu  wrote:
>> 
>> I've ordered Campy Veloce groupset.  Having a hard time finding Campy hub in 
>> silver color.  
>> 
>> What is the axle width for this bike?  100mm or 130mm?  
>> 
>> Also, would Tiagra rear hub work with Campy cassette?
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Three great test rides at RBWHQ

[Jim Dobbins]

That orange looks to be similar to the paint on my custom Riv:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/rasterdogs/3041950359/in/album-72157604146015375/
-JimD 

in Santa Clara, CA.

> On Nov 22, 2016, at 1:46 PM, Chris Birkenmaier  wrote:
> 
> I like it!
> 
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 4:14:45 PM UTC-5, Sky Coulter wrote:
> I like orange and obviously it's the fastest color, but that shade hurts my 
> eyes.
> 
> Sky in new west
> 
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 1:12:25 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
> On November 8, I reported:
> 
> "While we were talking Mark carried in a bright bright orange Roadeo, and 
> told Roman to post it for sale.  I grabbed a tape measure and confirmed my 
> guess that it's my size (59cm).  The orange is crazy bright, almost neon 
> orange.  Incredible.  "
> 
> I don't know when exactly photos got posted, but now they are posted.  
> 
> BRIGHT Orange Roadeo 
> 
> 
> Tell me that's not going to be the fastest Rivendell in history
> 
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
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[RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

[Sky Coulter]

Aren't they coming out with a single speed frame at a lower price point - 
the frank Jones Sr.?   IF you can wait, I imagine that one'll ride like a 
Rivendell.

Sky in new west

On Saturday, November 19, 2016 at 2:29:29 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> If you wanted the signature Rivendell road ride, but couldn't afford 
> another custom or the Roadeo (and didn't want the Ram -- tried one), and if 
> you thought you might look for an old road racing frame from the '70s, what 
> would you look for? 120 mm OL spacing.
>
> After trying out, once again, the S3X hub on the gofast, the hub gear 
> wheel idea being a quick-swap way to adapt this bike to occasional longer 
> and hilly rides, I find that the lash is a deal killer. So I want a frame 
> to build a bike around my AM hub.
>
> I'd probably give any such frame to Chauncey to have him remove unneeded 
> braze-ons (like icky derailleur bosses and hangar), and have him braze on 
> needed ones, like a roller boss at the seat tube junction and a housing 
> stop mid-top tube for the trigger cable housing, and then have it powder 
> coated.
>
> I did have a decent 1973 Motobecane 2nd level Record, and that was close 
> to what I want, but it wasn't cigar level; it didn't handle quite like my 
> Rivs.
>
> (I am tempted to give Chauncey my gofast, and tell him: "Replicate this." 
> But that would be at least $1200 -- cheap at the price, but more than I 
> ought to consider at this point.)
>
> (Wouldn't it be lovely to have a customized Roadeo, 57 for me, without the 
> derailleur bits?)
>
> Ideas?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Patrick Moore, who just again rode the gofast with 95"/71"/59" S3X in 
> windy ABQ, NM
>
> Aside: As I turned north onto Corrales Road on the way to Stevie's, with 
> wind blowing from the south, I shifted into the 95" and bowled along 
> merrily -- until the road turned and the wind quartered and my cadence 
> dropped like a stone. How much better the ASC would be: you could have that 
> downhill and tailwind gear at say 80", and at 90% have a 72" cruising and 
> at 75% a 59" climbing -- though they say that the ASC also had lashings of 
> lash. The AM, with direct + 11.55% and - 12.5% would give one, say, a 70" 
> direct, a 78" high, and a 61" low -- very usable gears, not to mention 
> coasting.
>
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>
> *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart
>
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>
>
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[RBW] Re: Need help choosing rear hub for Soma San Marcos

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

Velo Orange has some nice hubs and prebuilt wheels available that would 
match the campy look nicely.  They have an option at checkout to select a 
shimano or campy freehub body.  If you already have a Tiagara wheel and you 
like the finish you could always just swap out the freehub body only (VO 
sells them, just be sure to remove the existing body in your tiagara hub to 
confirm it's the same configuration).

Or!  Get some Silver hubs from Riv...although I am not seeing them on the 
site...

On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 9:09:54 PM UTC-5, Ashwath Akirekadu wrote:
>
> I've ordered Campy Veloce groupset.  Having a hard time finding Campy hub 
> in silver color.  
>
> What is the axle width for this bike?  100mm or 130mm?  
>
> Also, would Tiagra rear hub work with Campy cassette?
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Need help choosing rear hub for Soma San Marcos

[Belopsky]

o..Ashwath looks like you got some reading to do!

Shimano wont work with Campy. I think there are ways to go about it where 
it does, but basically just don't. I think you need special cables as well 
for Campy bits?

Rear is 130mm. There are many hubs that support Campy, but they have to be 
Campy specific.. Are you building your own wheels?

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[RBW] Re: How to crash by yourself

[Ron Mc]

Thanks Ryan, 
I have a feeling I'm going to be ignoring the other bikes this winter, 
except when I need the fenders on my upright.  

On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 12:38:15 AM UTC-6, Ryan Fleming wrote:
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> Nice Raleigh Ron...and glad you are recovering,tooRyan in Winnipeg
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

[Igor Belopolsky]

For sure - Did you see the price? pretty great. I'd grab it if I needed a
frame

On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:13 AM, JohnS  wrote:

> Thanks for the heads up on the Holdsworth. The Holdsworth La Quelda looks
> like it would be perfect as a fixed gear commuter.
>
> JohnS
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 8:16:05 AM UTC-5, Belopsky wrote:
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>> Has this been mentioned?
>>
>> http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/FRHOZPH/holdsworth-zephyr-frameset
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Re: [RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

[JohnS]

Thanks for the heads up on the Holdsworth. The Holdsworth La Quelda looks 
like it would be perfect as a fixed gear commuter.

JohnS


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> Has this been mentioned? 
>
> http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/FRHOZPH/holdsworth-zephyr-frameset
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Re: [RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

[Belopsky]

Has this been mentioned? 

http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/FRHOZPH/holdsworth-zephyr-frameset

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[RBW] Re: Just ride!

[Garth]

Riding is riding.   

Why is why. 

The two can't be mixed. 

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[RBW] Re: Just ride!

['Stephen Kemp' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Not quite, Eric. We're doomed when they combine this with e-bikes!

On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 4:24:08 AM UTC, Eric Karnes wrote:
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> sigh. we're doomed...
>
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 6:31:07 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>
>> https://techcrunch.com/2016/11/16/zwift-a-multiplayer-game-thats-making-indoor-athletics-more-social-just-raised-27-million/
>>
>> Courtesy of you-know-who.
>>
>> Let's change that. Let's call it, "Why ride?"
>>
>> Patrick Moore, who Just Rode this afternoon despite wind and gray skies, 
>> and turned a 8 mile rt PO trip into a hilly 17.6 mile Just Ride fixed gear 
>> ride.
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>>
>> *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart
>>
>> *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS ::: Mountain Bike Brake Levers, Suntour & Sachs - NEW

[ascpgh]

I'm out of flat bar bikes right but now those are some really nice Dia 
Compe Advantage-5 SL levers (basic A5s didn't have the holes). 

Cold forged levers, tidy clamp, pared down design to do the job. Grant put 
them on the MB-0, which showcased some other really great componentry. Made 
it contemporaries look like slightly refined, but still oversized and heavy 
Tomaselli motorcycle levers. Unleashed a tide of lightweight boutique 
levers.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh


On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 11:14:18 AM UTC-5, Dave Hallerman wrote:
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> Hello!
>
> Some mountain bike brake levers, flat-bar brake levers, for sale today. 
>
> Two pairs -- from Suntour and from Sachs -- are brand-new NOS, never used.
> One pair -- from Dia-Compe -- is used, mechanically in perfect condition, 
> looks a 9/10.
>
> *>* Suntour XC Pro = $35
> *>* Sachs ATB = $30
> *>* Dia-Compe Advantage 5 = $20
>
> Prices include free Priority Mail shipping in CONUS.
> Payment good by PayPal, if you can cover the fees.
> O'wise, let's figure out some other way to pay.
>
> Group photo below, and questions quickly answered.
>
> Smiles,
>
> Dave, who says his overbuying can be your chance to buy NOS classic parts
> Hudson Valley, NY
>
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24440195/mtbike_brake_levers_01.jpg
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