[RBW] Re: The Hubbuhubbuhs are here!

[Patrick Cronin]

Many thanks for posting these pics. I've been having sage envy and blue 
regret after seeing the first and even latest photo from Grant. I'm now 
really excited for this blue. Can't wait to put it up against the original 
Hunqapillar blue. Riv 'dealer', Gravel & Grind just took my deposit for 
parts and found a NOS xtr v-brakeset, which should look smart on the blue. 
Curious about the Paul Klamper, as I've never used.   

What did Riv say about the steerer length? It looks astronomic in height. 
Anyone else have thoughts about an ideal height for the Medium w/ 
bosco-bullmoose?

Cheers,

Patrick

On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 5:48:03 PM UTC-4, René wrote:
>
> I drive up today to pick up my Medium Orange frame, Silver crankset, 
> special Bosco bars my 40 spoked custome Rich built wheels and a few extra 
> parts. As usual, Vince, Grant, Mark, Rich and everyone else were super 
> nice, and even though the frames were just delivered yesterday, the 
> accommodated my eagerness and anticipation and prepped the frame while I 
> was waiting. 
>
> I'm still waiting on the polished Motolites, which should ship out next 
> week at the latest and will enjoy building it slowly to savor every moment. 
> There will be numerous asks for my wife to give her feedback so she feels 
> she also owns it, such as blue vs. white vs. gray cables, blue vs. silver 
> pedals, grip types, etc. She needs to feel it's also hers so she starts 
> enjoying it. And I promise I'll be very gentle and obey her every whim when 
> she rides with me. 
>
> As usual, I'll post photos of the progress of the build and the different 
> options being considered. 
>
> In the meantime, enjoy the first view of the Hubbuhubbuhs hanging in the 
> showroom. One color is still not displayed. 
> https://flickr.com/photos/25160594@N05/sets/72157680299609103
>
> Enjoy!
>
> René 
>

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[RBW] Re: New Chev

[Antone Könst]

I'm convinced- return it I will.  thanks!

On Saturday, May 6, 2017 at 5:50:14 PM UTC-4, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
>
> The Surly 8 pack is designed specifically to work with Surly's rack 
> braze-ons on the sides of its fork crowns. I got mine to work with the top 
> mounted fork crown braze on on my Clementine, though it took some smithing 
> (I heated some words, then used a vise. And those strut doodad things are 
> kind of a pain). See here:
>
>
>
> From Surly: *These porteur style racks are designed to attach to forks 
> that use mid-blade and fork crown eyelets or uni-crown barrel bosses like 
> most Surly forks use. There is plenty of adjustability to fit a wide range 
> of wheels sizes while still keeping the load low and tight to your bike.*
>
> As you can see, with having to jerryrig it, I cannot get the rack to drop 
> any further. Not only the fork crown eyelets are in the wrong 
> spot/orientation, but the fork blade mounts are higher than a typical 
> midblade. Oh well, it works. And its secured. I guess yours will be okay, 
> but it seems with a heavy enough load the triangulation is a bit off, with 
> the attachment points all on the bottom and you may have issues. But I am 
> no engineer.
>
> Still, I would probably return the rack.
>
> On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 11:11:14 PM UTC-4, Antone Könst wrote:
>>
>> Kai, you know Bridget?! She's the coolest! Also, I think I saw your 
>> mustard Clem once at Mana, am I right? 
>>
>> I had a feeling my rack should be lower, which also means I should 
>> shorten the Wald basket struts I guess, by chopping them up? 
>>
>> Would it make sense to return my 8Pack (unwitting guy at 718 Cycles sold 
>> it to me with the assurance it would work on my Chev...which it doesn't 
>> quite but I installed just to get going with my commute again)? Maybe 
>> something I can also hang my panniers on, so I'm not sacrificing strength - 
>> the little Nitto mini racks riv sells aren't rated for enough weight and I 
>> only want a front or back rack on my commuter at a time. Any ideas people? 
>>
>> René, glad you like the painting and the bike! It IS beautiful, even with 
>> the tape and stray chords flopping around.  
>
>

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[RBW] FS: Practically new 59cm Clem Smith Jr. H

[Michael Holloway]

I'm looking to sell my very lightly used 59cm Clem Smith Jr. H, mustard 
color.

Looks like this, though I'm happy to send you a phone snapshot if you're 
interested:

https://www.rivbike.com/products/clem-smith-jr-h-style-complete?variant=2841281

I ordered it late last summer and took it out for a couple of rides around 
town before it got too cold for this freezecat to go riding around.  Great, 
quirky bike, sprightly but with a relaxed riding position, but it's just a 
wee bit too big for me. (For reference, I'm 5' 11-1/2". Rivendell says 
riders for this size are typically 5' 10" to 6' 4", and if I were you I'd 
be more confident about it if I were on the higher end of that range.)

I paid $1500 and I'd part with it for $1250.

Also willing to sell the frameset alone for $800.

Thanks for looking!

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[RBW] FS: 61cm AHH...

[Peter Gillis]

I was a rider and on this forum for many years. I suffer from a neuro disease 
and can no longer ride an upright bike, so am selling my AHH. It has a few 
dings but is in great shape.Basic build and comes with the basket and fenders, 
seat, kickstand, saddle.I am asking $1550 and you cover shipping costs. I am in 
Reno,NV.I cannot use my hands very well so I will have the bike packed at local 
bike shop. It does need cleaning as it had been sitting in storage for 2 plus 
years...also have a barely used 59cm soma san marcos with everything but 
wheelset for $750 plus shipping or $2000 for both bikes...my email is: 
ssubman2...@yahoo.com 

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[RBW] HAR compatability with Ortlieb Sport Roller classic?

[zybariver]

I searched the archives but didn't get a definitive answer on whether the 
Hub Area rack will play nice with the Ortlieb Sport Roller classic.  Can 
someone with experience enlighten me?

Greg
Seattle

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[RBW] Re: Beautiful Atlantis on EBay

[dougP]

Mine came with neither kickstand plate nor any fork eyelets (other than 
fender). It's now got hourglass for a little Nitto rack & mid-fork thru eyelets 
for low rider rack. Also kickstand plate. Not hard to get done.

Doug P

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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA 53cm atlantis on ebay - $800

[R Shannon]

Hi Shoji:

Thank you for your insight on the RTPs. Your riding is identical to mine. After 
I sent my e-mail I realized the RTPs could raise my saddle to an uncomfortable 
height. As much as I'd like to try these tires the saddle height and reduced 
standover gives me pause.

Widest tire I've run to date is the Compass 1.75 on Synergy rims. A short lived 
650b experiment was a no go for the reasons mentioned above.

Thanks again for your time and feedback!

Best regards,
Richard



Sent from my iPhone

> On May 8, 2017, at 5:35 PM, Shoji Takahashi  wrote:
> 
> Hi Rich,
> I have RTP on my Hunqapillar. Front is mounted on Atlas, Rear is mounted on 
> Aeroheat. They measure ~50 - 52mm at 20 - 30 psi (f/r) for my 160# + 
> bike+gear. It's mainly used as a Boston-area commuter on streets and dirt 
> paths. 
> 
> They are noticeably faster than Big Bens, which I liked a lot. Finding the 
> right pressure was a problem initially. When pressure is low, the tires can 
> be squirmy. I also had a few pinch flats in trying to get the right pressure.
> 
> I've since used latex tubes. I like them for the speed and quality of ride. I 
> think they are less prone to pinch flats, but that's anecdotal.
> 
> I would recommend giving them a try, particularly if you ride mainly road or 
> hard dirt. 
> 
> Tailwinds,
> Shoji
> Arlington MA
> 
> 
> 
>> On Monday, May 8, 2017 at 11:01:34 AM UTC-4, RichS wrote:
>> Adam, that's really sweet. I'd say you did well getting the frame for $700 
>> considering a new one is $2,300 or $2,350. Plus the wait for a new Atlantis 
>> can be lengthy. A friend just canceled his order after a six month wait with 
>> no delivery date in sight.
>> 
>> How are do you and Norah like the RT Pass tires? What rims are are they on? 
>> Asking because I've contemplated putting them on my '53 Atlantis.
>> 
>> Thanks very much,
>> Richard 
>> 
>>> On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 8:40:21 PM UTC-4, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>>> I'm in the "for $700 that's a steal" camp and you did a great build.   
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 2:47:44 PM UTC-5, adam leibow wrote:
 built this up for my girlfriend. it's her graduation (from grad school) 
 present. i am jealous of her now.
 
 
 
 
 
> On Friday, April 21, 2017 at 1:12:51 PM UTC-7, Sky Coulter wrote:
> http://m.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Atlantis-Frameset-53cm-Touring-Bike-26-Bottom-Bracket-Headset-/252885392566?hash=item3ae124dcb6%3Ag%3APREAAOSw5UZY-izk&_trkparms=pageci%253A98fff8c5-26ce-11e7-8844-74dbd180b952%257Cparentrq%253A92235da015b0a847a52d5bcefffbd313%257Ciid%253A2
> No affiliation, but seems an alright price
> 
> Sky in new west
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Pass 'n' Stow rack

[Patrick Shea]

I've gotten a lot of responses for my Pass 'n' Stow rack, more than I can
respond to individually. i have a potential buyer but if it doesn't happen,
I'll contact the second in line. Thanks for reading!

Cheers,
Patrick

On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 2:14 PM, drew  wrote:

> I think a lot of us did
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[RBW] FS 56 Quickbeam

[Andrew Huston]

$1450 shipped

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[RBW] Re: FS: tektro brakes, shifters, swift ind panniers, silver shifters, sam hillborne F/F/HS and more

[Jeff Lesperance]

Pedals and Sam remain available - all other items have been spoken for

On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 6:33 AM, Jeff Lesperance 
wrote:

> Tektro Novela brakes, pedals and Sam Hillborne remain available - all
> other items have been spoken for.
>
>
> On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Jeff Lesperance  > wrote:
>
>> I'm getting close to new bike day and ready to clean out some extraneous
>> items. I think I'm advertising friendly prices, but I'm open to suggestions
>> that I might not be. Make an offer. I'll discount multiple items to a
>> single destination.
>>
>> Pictures here: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6fp2AmAnZgmLUJTRnJ5
>> NXJGSFE
>>
>> 1. Tektro R556 brakes, bike worth, used, great shape, reasonable pad
>> left, recessed nut, nut on front is currently a sheldon fender nut, which I
>> hope to keep, but if I can't find a regular nut, you get the sheldon fender
>> nut - $30 shipped
>>
>> 2. Tektro Novela disc brake calipers and levers - rode these briefly as
>> the stock brakes on a Breezer Beltway - bikes worth - $30 shipped
>>
>> 3. Swift Industries canvas rolltop panniers, brown and burgundy with high
>> wheeler graphic - $100 shipped
>>
>> 4. Rivendell Silver shifters on bar end pods - $45 shipped
>>
>> 5. Shimano Deore trigger shifters, 3x9 - $10 shipped
>>
>> 6. Campy Centaur FD - $15 shipped
>>
>> 7. Large Bike Burrito tool roll, brown outside, orange inside - $20
>> shipped
>>
>> 8. big pedals, I think these are sunlite - $10 shipped
>>
>> 9. Rivendell half mitts - these are weird, never used, kicked around my
>> workshop for a few years - $10 shipped.
>>
>> 10. 60cm Sam Hillborne, frame/fork/headset - I've advertised this here
>> previously as a complete bike and partial build. I ended up pulling the
>> parts off for a different build. I'm the second owner, it's got its share
>> of paint chips and scrapes. There's a paint chip on the seat tube that I've
>> now confirmed to be a small dent - it came to me with this chip/dent and I
>> always thought it just a chip and thought nothing of it. After unbuilding
>> it recently and shining a light down the seat tube I confirmed it's a small
>> depression in the tube. I've ridden this fully loaded touring offroad for
>> many miles and ridden year round as a commuter and long-distance
>> day-tripper . I'll take more pics and post if you like. Sam needs a new
>> home as my bike stable is going to be over-capacity with a new bike
>> expected this week. $450 plus Bike Flights shipping.
>>
>> -Jeff
>> Silver Spring, MD
>>
>
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[RBW] Re: PSA 53cm atlantis on ebay - $800

[Shoji Takahashi]

Hi Rich,
I have RTP on my Hunqapillar. Front is mounted on Atlas, Rear is mounted on 
Aeroheat. They measure ~50 - 52mm at 20 - 30 psi (f/r) for my 160# + 
bike+gear. It's mainly used as a Boston-area commuter on streets and dirt 
paths. 

They are noticeably faster than Big Bens, which I liked a lot. Finding the 
right pressure was a problem initially. When pressure is low, the tires can 
be squirmy. I also had a few pinch flats in trying to get the right 
pressure.

I've since used latex tubes. I like them for the speed and quality of ride. 
I think they are less prone to pinch flats, but that's anecdotal.

I would recommend giving them a try, particularly if you ride mainly road 
or hard dirt. 

Tailwinds,
Shoji
Arlington MA



On Monday, May 8, 2017 at 11:01:34 AM UTC-4, RichS wrote:
>
> Adam, that's really sweet. I'd say you did well getting the frame for $700 
> considering a new one is $2,300 or $2,350. Plus the wait for a new Atlantis 
> can be lengthy. A friend just canceled his order after a six month wait 
> with no delivery date in sight.
>
> How are do you and Norah like the RT Pass tires? What rims are are they 
> on? Asking because I've contemplated putting them on my '53 Atlantis.
>
> Thanks very much,
> Richard 
>
> On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 8:40:21 PM UTC-4, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>>
>> I'm in the "for $700 that's a steal" camp and you did a great build.   
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 2:47:44 PM UTC-5, adam leibow wrote:
>>>
>>> built this up for my girlfriend. it's her graduation (from grad school) 
>>> present. i am jealous of her now.
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 21, 2017 at 1:12:51 PM UTC-7, Sky Coulter wrote:


 http://m.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Atlantis-Frameset-53cm-Touring-Bike-26-Bottom-Bracket-Headset-/252885392566?hash=item3ae124dcb6%3Ag%3APREAAOSw5UZY-izk&_trkparms=pageci%253A98fff8c5-26ce-11e7-8844-74dbd180b952%257Cparentrq%253A92235da015b0a847a52d5bcefffbd313%257Ciid%253A2

 No affiliation, but seems an alright price

 Sky in new west



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Re: [RBW] Re: Do I need tire fatter than 650B x 42?

[Tim Gavin]

My ex-gf put Horizons on her Surly Straggler 650b build.  Hers measured 49
mm wide on 30 mm Velocity Blunt rims.

So, they would probably measure the stated 47 mm on a 25 mm rim.

I agree with masmojo that the Byway looks like even better, with shoulder
knobs for occasional deep gravel.
https://www.bikerumor.com/2017/04/20/wtb-takes-byway-new-dirt-ready-47mm-road-plus-tire/

On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Orc  wrote:

> How wide do the Horizons measure on your machine?
>
>
> On Monday, May 8, 2017 at 12:52:23 PM UTC-7, masmojo wrote:
>>
>> I recently tried the WTB Horizon 650B X 47mm tires & I liked them a lot.
>> Great tire for an Appa. Clem or Clementine!
>> They also just introduced their byway 47 which looks like a variation if
>> the theme.
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[RBW] Re: Do I need tire fatter than 650B x 42?

[masmojo]

You would ask that 2 days after I've taken them iff the bike they were on. Of 
course it will depend on the width of tge rim a little, but I will say they 
don't run small! On a wider rim they could be closer to 49mm.
I will most likey put them on my Clementine, but probably not for a few days 
(or weeks), depends on if curiosity gets the better of me.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Beautiful Atlantis on EBay

[Joe Bernard]

Lee: For some of us the buying and selling is part of the hobby. Speaking for 
myself, I've always been into bikes as much for the mechanical aspect as for 
the riding itself. Some folks really just want something that works for the 
riding they're into, and tend to stick with what works. Others are into all the 
different possible bike experiences out there, and buy and sell as they put 
each new interesting experience on the road, then move on to the next one. 

I'm in the second group. I probably fiddle with bikes as much as ride them, and 
have a slightly insatiable appetite for changing things up just to see what 
it's like. I started with the lugged steel Bridgestone-to-Rivendell progression 
and always end up back here, but I've owned all manner of bikes including: a 
titanium road bike, aluminum disk brake road bike, Dutch bike, recumbents, 
recumbent trikes, mini velos, folders, and most recently a dabble with ebikes. 

I tend not to get attached to any of them and don't desire to have an huge, 
unmanageable collection (which I can't afford to do anyway), so I sell bikes 
I'm not riding much to the next rider. It's fun!

Joe "buy high, sell low" Bernard
Vallejo, CA. 

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[RBW] Re: tires for clem

[masmojo]

I am running a Big Ben in the back & a 2.3 Kenda knobby in the front. I tried 
BBs frint & back initially & then changef both to 2.3 knobbies, but the 
Clementine is such a big bike that 2 really fat tires felt sort of ponderous. 
The knob on the front gives a little "float" over soft stuff & obstacles, while 
the narrower BB in the back rolls a little easier on pavement. I've been 
running this combo for awhile and I might be inclined to drop the front knobs 
down to 2.1, but it's a minor quibble.
Actually, I've recently acquired some WTB Horizon 47's & I think I'll probably 
go with those, because they are plenty wide, they are folding & are pretty 
light.

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Re: [RBW] On rear racks for the Hubbuhubbuh...

[René Sterental]

Eager to see how it works out!

On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> I did go ahead and order a Saddlesack SMALL to run as a stoker stowage
> compartment.  Public Service Announcement, there were three 3 Olive
> Saddlesack Smalls in stock.  Now that I've bought one, only two remain.
> I'll post photos when my stoker stowage comparment is in place.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, May 8, 2017 at 9:32:30 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> I'm just going to run an R-14 as a saddlebag support in the back. I
>> almost got it on there but I didn't have long enough struts.
>>
>> I'm also THIS CLOSE to ordering a saddlesack small to hang off the
>> captain saddle. My stoker will have access to anything imaginable and it'll
>> rest there right on top of the bullmoose stoker stem.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Do I need tire fatter than 650B x 42?

[Orc]

How wide do the Horizons measure on your machine?

On Monday, May 8, 2017 at 12:52:23 PM UTC-7, masmojo wrote:
>
> I recently tried the WTB Horizon 650B X 47mm tires & I liked them a lot. 
> Great tire for an Appa. Clem or Clementine!
> They also just introduced their byway 47 which looks like a variation if 
> the theme.

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[RBW] Re: Do I need tire fatter than 650B x 42?

[masmojo]

I recently tried the WTB Horizon 650B X 47mm tires & I liked them a lot. Great 
tire for an Appa. Clem or Clementine!
They also just introduced their byway 47 which looks like a variation if the 
theme.

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Re: [RBW] On rear racks for the Hubbuhubbuh...

[Bill Lindsay]

I did go ahead and order a Saddlesack SMALL to run as a stoker stowage 
compartment.  Public Service Announcement, there were three 3 Olive 
Saddlesack Smalls in stock.  Now that I've bought one, only two remain. 
 I'll post photos when my stoker stowage comparment is in place.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, May 8, 2017 at 9:32:30 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I'm just going to run an R-14 as a saddlebag support in the back. I almost 
> got it on there but I didn't have long enough struts.  
>
> I'm also THIS CLOSE to ordering a saddlesack small to hang off the captain 
> saddle. My stoker will have access to anything imaginable and it'll rest 
> there right on top of the bullmoose stoker stem. 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: On rear racks for the Hubbuhubbuh...

[René Sterental]

Interesting little adaptor. And thanks for the compliment, I too had
doubts, which is why I installed a piece on the frame first, and then ran
the cable to the disc brake. We'll see once all the cables are run.

On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Surlyprof  wrote:

> I had disc brakes on a mountain bike that had rack braze-ons.  I found a
> threaded standoff at my local hardware.  Looked like this:
> http://www.newark.com/ettinger/05-16-409/standoff-
> hex-m-f-ss-40mm-m6/dp/58Y7674
>
> John
>
> PS: Rene, I love the blue cable housings on your orange Hubbuhubbuh.  I
> had just returned some I had ordered for my orange Sam because they seemed
> too much.  After seeing your photos, I am now kicking myself.  They look
> great.
>
>
> On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 12:18:54 PM UTC-7, René wrote:
>>
>> I just realized that none of my racks, possibly with the exception of the
>> R14 will fit on my Hubbuhubbuh due to its disc brake. I did a quick search
>> online, and found what I consider ugly black disc compatible rear racks,
>> with the exception of the Tubus Disco Rear Rack, which can be found in
>> silver in the UK. However, I can't tell if it's the version that is painted
>> in silver and has a coating on top, which I dislike, or true silver metal
>> like the Tubus Nova (unlikely because that one is stainless steel) or
>> chromoly like the Nitto racks.
>>
>> I have no urgent need for a rear rack right away, and similar to what
>> Bill did, was planning on installing the Nitto Mini F32 so I can add a
>> basket or just a small front bag, plus the Tubus Nova lowriders, where I
>> can load front/small panniers. Will need to check how the handling is
>> affected, if at all.
>>
>> As stated, for the type of riding I'll be doing initially, with my wife,
>> children and friends, I won't need to carry a lot, and I plan on having
>> Carradice roll bags on each handlebar plus a Barley saddlebag, all
>> matching, of course... :-)
>>
>> Anyway, this might be a consideration/concern for those of you getting
>> Hubbuhubbuhs and are planning to run the disc drag brake and want a silver
>> rack. There are plenty of black racks available with different pros and
>> cons, it's just that I don't like much like them.
>>
>> Will let you know if the R14 fits, which would allow me to swap the
>> Burley for the large Sackville Saddlebag as necessary.
>>
>> René
>>
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[RBW] Re: On rear racks for the Hubbuhubbuh...

[Surlyprof]

I had disc brakes on a mountain bike that had rack braze-ons.  I found a 
threaded standoff at my local hardware.  Looked like this: 
 http://www.newark.com/ettinger/05-16-409/standoff-hex-m-f-ss-40mm-m6/dp/58Y7674

John

PS: Rene, I love the blue cable housings on your orange Hubbuhubbuh.  I had 
just returned some I had ordered for my orange Sam because they seemed too 
much.  After seeing your photos, I am now kicking myself.  They look great.

On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 12:18:54 PM UTC-7, René wrote:
>
> I just realized that none of my racks, possibly with the exception of the 
> R14 will fit on my Hubbuhubbuh due to its disc brake. I did a quick search 
> online, and found what I consider ugly black disc compatible rear racks, 
> with the exception of the Tubus Disco Rear Rack, which can be found in 
> silver in the UK. However, I can't tell if it's the version that is painted 
> in silver and has a coating on top, which I dislike, or true silver metal 
> like the Tubus Nova (unlikely because that one is stainless steel) or 
> chromoly like the Nitto racks.
>
> I have no urgent need for a rear rack right away, and similar to what Bill 
> did, was planning on installing the Nitto Mini F32 so I can add a basket or 
> just a small front bag, plus the Tubus Nova lowriders, where I can load 
> front/small panniers. Will need to check how the handling is affected, if 
> at all.
>
> As stated, for the type of riding I'll be doing initially, with my wife, 
> children and friends, I won't need to carry a lot, and I plan on having 
> Carradice roll bags on each handlebar plus a Barley saddlebag, all 
> matching, of course... :-)
>
> Anyway, this might be a consideration/concern for those of you getting 
> Hubbuhubbuhs and are planning to run the disc drag brake and want a silver 
> rack. There are plenty of black racks available with different pros and 
> cons, it's just that I don't like much like them.
>
> Will let you know if the R14 fits, which would allow me to swap the Burley 
> for the large Sackville Saddlebag as necessary.
>
> René 
>

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[RBW] Re: Beautiful Atlantis on EBay

[Ty Graham]

I wish I'd saved the Grant email from 2000 when the first Atlantis shipped. As 
I remember they were Toyo built and had some cool tubing upspec. Presented in a 
Grant "Not that tubing matters, except that it does to some people, so there's 
that ..." style. 

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[RBW] Re: Do I need tire fatter than 650B x 42?

[Orc]

F(anyone's)I;   Schwalbe One 650x25b tires on a 650b conversion:



Riv content is, um, the waterbottle is from the Rivendell mothership and 
the waterbottle lid is from Rivelo.



I don't think there's a single Rivendell frame that wouldn't look silly 
with this wheelset, unless I could hop in a time machine and get a 
first-year custom made; You can only imagine how ridiculous these wheels 
look under a Rosco  (the photos I posted a while back of the Rosco MTM I'm 
trying to sell? those tires (Confreries) are huge compared to these) but 
they give me buckets of room for fenders on this frame+fork setup.


-david "they ride nicely, too, though they're amazingly slippery on gravel" 
parsons

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[RBW] Re: Beautiful Atlantis on EBay

[Ian A]

Drew:

Yours would only be mythical if it was produced in 1992 (as the Pro's 
Closet ad erroneously states). You have neither mythical nor kickstand 
plate. You do however, have a great bike.

IanA.

On Monday, May 8, 2017 at 10:49:15 AM UTC-6, drew wrote:
>
> i have one (that a few people here had before me) that has pointy lugs and 
> a sub 100 serial number. i didn't realize it was mythical. i think id trade 
> mythical for a kickstand plate and some mid-fork mounts. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Beautiful Atlantis on EBay

[Ty Graham]

Wow, really mythical. First production on Atlantis were 2000.

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[RBW] Re: i need a new helmet

[drew]

+1 on giro aspect. best looking, most comfortable and well vented helmet 
ive ever worn. 

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[RBW] Re: Beautiful Atlantis on EBay

[Bill Lindsay]

I concur with Jeff.  In my experience, The Pro's Closet has all the good 
qualities you'd want from a professional eBay seller, at the price premium 
you would expect to pay a professional.  The other thing I like about them 
is that they appear to stock alot of things I'm interested in seeing, so I 
can just browse their store and see lots of stuff I like. 



On Monday, May 8, 2017 at 9:29:52 AM UTC-7, sameness wrote:
>
> Seems like a lot of their listings are on the somewhat pricier side. 
>
> That being said, their descriptions are excellent, their communication is 
> terrific, and they ship fast. 
>
> If I need something specific, in a given condition, and I don't want any 
> surprises upon arrival, I'm happy to pay that moderate premium.
>
> Jeff Hagedorn
> Los Angeles, CA USA
>
> On Monday, May 8, 2017 at 9:13:30 AM UTC-7, Wayne Naha wrote:
>>
>> Inquiring minds need to know.  What's the scoop with Pro's Closet?
>>
>> On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 11:15:45 PM UTC-4, Justin, Oakland wrote:
>>>
>>> Oh lord I didn't even see that it was a Pro's Closet listing. 
>>>
>>> I'm so so sorry. 
>>>
>>> -J
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Beautiful Atlantis on EBay

[drew]

i have one (that a few people here had before me) that has pointy lugs and 
a sub 100 serial number. i didn't realize it was mythical. i think id trade 
mythical for a kickstand plate and some mid-fork mounts. 

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[RBW] Re: i need a new helmet

[Geeter]

I'm on my second Giro Aspect.  I love it.  It is well vented but doesn't 
look like a spaceship.  It can be had really cheap on clearance if you can 
find it.  Even comes with a velcro visor that looks like a bike cap.  

On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 9:52:38 PM UTC-5, bo richardson wrote:
>
> i was looking at an abus from bike 24. but i always learn so much fromthe 
> list.
> i prefers simple not aero
> round is good
> mid price
> any suggestions?
>
> thanks so much
>
> bo
>
>

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Re: [RBW] On rear racks for the Hubbuhubbuh...

[Bill Lindsay]

I'm just going to run an R-14 as a saddlebag support in the back. I almost got 
it on there but I didn't have long enough struts.  

I'm also THIS CLOSE to ordering a saddlesack small to hang off the captain 
saddle. My stoker will have access to anything imaginable and it'll rest there 
right on top of the bullmoose stoker stem. 

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[RBW] Re: Beautiful Atlantis on EBay

[sameness]

Seems like a lot of their listings are on the somewhat pricier side. 

That being said, their descriptions are excellent, their communication is 
terrific, and they ship fast. 

If I need something specific, in a given condition, and I don't want any 
surprises upon arrival, I'm happy to pay that moderate premium.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

On Monday, May 8, 2017 at 9:13:30 AM UTC-7, Wayne Naha wrote:
>
> Inquiring minds need to know.  What's the scoop with Pro's Closet?
>
> On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 11:15:45 PM UTC-4, Justin, Oakland wrote:
>>
>> Oh lord I didn't even see that it was a Pro's Closet listing. 
>>
>> I'm so so sorry. 
>>
>> -J
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Beautiful Atlantis on EBay

[Wayne Naha]

Inquiring minds need to know.  What's the scoop with Pro's Closet?

On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 11:15:45 PM UTC-4, Justin, Oakland wrote:
>
> Oh lord I didn't even see that it was a Pro's Closet listing. 
>
> I'm so so sorry. 
>
> -J
>
>

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[RBW] Re: PSA 53cm atlantis on ebay - $800

[Will]

You should be jealous. That's one of the best bicycles ever made. And it 
only gets better... the more you ride. :-)

On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 2:47:44 PM UTC-5, adam leibow wrote:
>
> built this up for my girlfriend. it's her graduation (from grad school) 
> present. i am jealous of her now.
>
>
> 
>
>
> On Friday, April 21, 2017 at 1:12:51 PM UTC-7, Sky Coulter wrote:
>>
>>
>> http://m.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Atlantis-Frameset-53cm-Touring-Bike-26-Bottom-Bracket-Headset-/252885392566?hash=item3ae124dcb6%3Ag%3APREAAOSw5UZY-izk&_trkparms=pageci%253A98fff8c5-26ce-11e7-8844-74dbd180b952%257Cparentrq%253A92235da015b0a847a52d5bcefffbd313%257Ciid%253A2
>>
>> No affiliation, but seems an alright price
>>
>> Sky in new west
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] I need a new helmet and am hoping for advice

[Eric Norris]

I recently purchased a POC helmet, in part because it doesn’t look “racy” or 
aero. They have many models, but I bought this one:

https://www.competitivecyclist.com/poc-trabec-helmet?skidn=POC0106-RESBL-ML=UExQIEJyYW5kOlBPQyBCaWtlIEhlbG1ldHM6MTo2OjEwMDAwMDU3NF9jY0NhdDEwMDA1Mw==
 

 

--Eric Norris
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@CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)

> On May 8, 2017, at 5:01 AM, bo richardson  wrote:
> 
> i am in the market for a mid price range helmet that is not very aero.
> not aero. i am not worried about air slamming into the vacuum behind my 
> helmet at speeds in excess of 12 mph.
> 
> polo helmet-ish would be nice. if i could get one with lights built an and 
> a mirror as part of the helmet that would be perfect. 
> 
> mirrors  on the glasses earpiece bend the glasses out of shape.
> 
> i would also buy a pair of glasses with an integrated mirror if that were 
> available.
> 
> does anyone have a suggestion?
> 
> thanks so much
> 
> bo
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Re: [RBW] Re: Beautiful Atlantis on EBay

[Lee Legrand]

Everyday I see people selling great bicycles.  It makes me think whether in
a society that we consume too much if we sell our belongings.  I am not
against selling of items that are no longer used but it is interesting that
people sell bicycle here alot.

On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 11:16 AM, John A. Bennett  wrote:

> Yes, that *would *be mythical.
>
> The pointy lugs indicate it's from the first batch of 100, delivered to
> Riv in the Fall of 2000.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John at Rivelo in Portland
>
> On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 7:15:56 PM UTC-7, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>>
>> It's the extremely rare, some would say mythical, 1992 model, according
>> to The Pros Closet.
>>
>> On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 5:21:57 PM UTC-4, Justin, Oakland wrote:
>>>
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/382050555993
>>>
>>> Not mine but wowza, that's a dream build.
>>>
>>> Good deal for the BiN price IMO.
>>>
>>> -Justin
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[RBW] Re: Beautiful Atlantis on EBay

[John A. Bennett]

Yes, that *would *be mythical.

The pointy lugs indicate it's from the first batch of 100, delivered to Riv 
in the Fall of 2000.

Cheers,

John at Rivelo in Portland 

On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 7:15:56 PM UTC-7, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
> It's the extremely rare, some would say mythical, 1992 model, according to 
> The Pros Closet.
>
> On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 5:21:57 PM UTC-4, Justin, Oakland wrote:
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/382050555993
>>
>> Not mine but wowza, that's a dream build.
>>
>> Good deal for the BiN price IMO.
>>
>> -Justin
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] I need a new helmet and am hoping for advice

[Will]

I switched to equestrian helmets several years ago. They are better 
looking, more comfortable, and a much better value: plenty of protection, 
less attitude. 

http://www.ovationriding.com/riding-helmets-for-men

On Monday, May 8, 2017 at 7:34:11 AM UTC-5, Steven Sweedler wrote:
>
> Bo, I bought this Giro helmet at Nashbar ($55) because of its rounded 
> shape, I liked the parallel lines. No lights or mirrors.  
>
> http://www.giro.com/us_en/products/men/helmets/road/aspecttm.html
> Steve
> Plymouth, NH 
> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 8:01 AM bo richardson  > wrote:
>
>> i am in the market for a mid price range helmet that is not very aero.
>> not aero. i am not worried about air slamming into the vacuum behind my 
>> helmet at speeds in excess of 12 mph.
>>
>> polo helmet-ish would be nice. if i could get one with lights built an and
>> a mirror as part of the helmet that would be perfect.
>>
>> mirrors  on the glasses earpiece bend the glasses out of shape.
>>
>> i would also buy a pair of glasses with an integrated mirror if that were 
>> available.
>>
>> does anyone have a suggestion?
>>
>> thanks so much
>>
>> bo
>>
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[RBW] Re: I need a new helmet and am hoping for advice

[John A. Bennett]

A customer came in wearing one of these a few weeks ago. I like the look, 
and got one myself.

http://www.giro.com/us_en/sutton-21.html

Cheers,

John at Rivelo in Portland, Oregon

On Monday, May 8, 2017 at 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, bo richardson wrote:
>
> i am in the market for a mid price range helmet that is not very aero.
> not aero. i am not worried about air slamming into the vacuum behind my 
> helmet at speeds in excess of 12 mph.
>
> polo helmet-ish would be nice. if i could get one with lights built an and 
> a mirror as part of the helmet that would be perfect. 
>
> mirrors  on the glasses earpiece bend the glasses out of shape.
>
> i would also buy a pair of glasses with an integrated mirror if that were 
> available.
>
> does anyone have a suggestion?
>
> thanks so much
>
> bo
>
>

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Re: [RBW] On rear racks for the Hubbuhubbuh...

[René Sterental]

Wow. I had missed that and nothing came with the tandem, so I'll call RBW
and inquire. Thanks for pointing it out!

René

On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 7:23 AM Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles <
4824...@gmail.com> wrote:

> From the blug:
>
> REAR RACK: The HHH frame comes with a widget that allows you to fit most
> or all standard racks, as opposed to “disc-compatible” racks made for
> tandem-width rear hub spacing. We designed the rakkadapta, but haven’t
> actually seen or used it yet. Good luck to us all on that, but in any case,
> you will be able to mount a rack to it. At worst, it’ll be like all other
> tandems in that way. (At best, the rakkadapta will work as well on the bike
> as it does on the CAD program!)
>
>
> So, I take it things didn't work out?
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[RBW] On rear racks for the Hubbuhubbuh...

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

>From the blug:

REAR RACK: The HHH frame comes with a widget that allows you to fit most or all 
standard racks, as opposed to “disc-compatible” racks made for tandem-width 
rear hub spacing. We designed the rakkadapta, but haven’t actually seen or used 
it yet. Good luck to us all on that, but in any case, you will be able to mount 
a rack to it. At worst, it’ll be like all other tandems in that way. (At best, 
the rakkadapta will work as well on the bike as it does on the CAD program!)


So, I take it things didn't work out?

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[RBW] Re: tires for clem

[Deacon Patrick]

If you like the idea of Thunderburts but need a more aggressive knobbie 
that still handle pavement amazingly well, Racing Ralphs are supple and 
spectacular.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 9:44:17 PM UTC-6, Davey Two Shoes wrote:
>
> Hi everyone
> I' love my clem (riv stock build) but I'd like to upgrade the tires from 
> the 1.75 kendas to something bigger and more supple. In a perfect world 
> Compass would make a 27.5 x 2.3 tire but thats not happening. What are some 
> of you clem riders running?
> Thanks
> Dave
>

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[RBW] Re: i need a new helmet

[Marc Irwin]

I also like the Bern helmets I have.  They have a very sturdy shell which 
is good if you are on and off your bike during the day.  The roadie helmets 
have a flimsy shell that gets dented and cracked easily.  Even with the 
sturdy shell, liner and visor they only weigh a few grams more than my 
Lazer O2.

Marc

On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 10:52:38 PM UTC-4, bo richardson wrote:
>
> i was looking at an abus from bike 24. but i always learn so much fromthe 
> list.
> i prefers simple not aero
> round is good
> mid price
> any suggestions?
>
> thanks so much
>
> bo
>
>

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[RBW] Re: tires for clem

[Jeremy Tavan]

Bought my Clem off this list with a mismatched pair: knobby WTB Bee Line 
2.2" in the front, smooth-ish Vee Speedster 1.95" in back. I've been pretty 
happy with them for general use, but I expect to trade them out eventually 
and I think the next tires on this bike will be Schwalbe Big Ones in 2.1" - 
smooth and supple, from what I hear. 

On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 8:44:17 PM UTC-7, Davey Two Shoes wrote:
>
> Hi everyone
> I' love my clem (riv stock build) but I'd like to upgrade the tires from 
> the 1.75 kendas to something bigger and more supple. In a perfect world 
> Compass would make a 27.5 x 2.3 tire but thats not happening. What are some 
> of you clem riders running?
> Thanks
> Dave
>

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[RBW] Re: regarding orange bikes

[Surlyprof]

In case you like games, Mark...
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/202771/punderdome-card-game-pun-lovers
Our friends introduced us to this last game night.

I love my orange canti-Sam but don't want to.  I bought it used and my wife 
already had a bright orange Public mixte.  I've tried talking her into a Riv 
Roscoe mountain mixte and Rene's Betty Foy but to no avail.  The orange on the 
Sam has a beautiful yellowish pearlescent sheen in the sunlight.  As much as I 
want to repaint to avoid the matchy-match rides with my wife, I just can't do 
it.

Guess we'll just have to surrender to fate and get the matching track suits to 
complete the ensemble.

John

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[RBW] I need a new helmet and am hoping for advice

[Surlyprof]

Bo,

I recently bought a helmet from the REI Garage.  If you are a member, they 
often have sales around Memorial Day.  When they have sales, they usually give 
an additional 20% off.  I took advantage of this last Laber Day. Returns are 
easy, too.

John

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Re: [RBW] I need a new helmet and am hoping for advice

[Steven Sweedler]

Bo, I bought this Giro helmet at Nashbar ($55) because of its rounded
shape, I liked the parallel lines. No lights or mirrors.

http://www.giro.com/us_en/products/men/helmets/road/aspecttm.html
Steve
Plymouth, NH
On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 8:01 AM bo richardson  wrote:

> i am in the market for a mid price range helmet that is not very aero.
> not aero. i am not worried about air slamming into the vacuum behind my
> helmet at speeds in excess of 12 mph.
>
> polo helmet-ish would be nice. if i could get one with lights built an and
> a mirror as part of the helmet that would be perfect.
>
> mirrors  on the glasses earpiece bend the glasses out of shape.
>
> i would also buy a pair of glasses with an integrated mirror if that were
> available.
>
> does anyone have a suggestion?
>
> thanks so much
>
> bo
>
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Re: [RBW] i need a new helmet

[Tim Gavin]

I wanted to add, you can find Berns on clearance somewhat often.  I got
mine from REI outlet for less than $70 including the winter liner.

On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 7:08 AM, Tim Gavin 
wrote:

> I'm happy with my Bern helmet.  It's light and fits well (rare for me, I
> wear the XXXL size).  Berns have snap-in liners, and most models have an
> optional thicker liner for winter riding.
>
> My only criticism with Berns is that most aren't vented well. My Brentwood
> is too warm to wear in mid-summer; I have a Giro I wear during warm
> weather.  The Bern Allston/Morrison models have better venting, and the New
> FL-1 is starting to look like the vented "alien" helmets from many other
> makers.
>
> On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 9:52 PM, bo richardson  wrote:
>
>> i was looking at an abus from bike 24. but i always learn so much fromthe
>> list.
>> i prefers simple not aero
>> round is good
>> mid price
>> any suggestions?
>>
>> thanks so much
>>
>> bo
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Re: [RBW] i need a new helmet

[Tim Gavin]

I'm happy with my Bern helmet.  It's light and fits well (rare for me, I
wear the XXXL size).  Berns have snap-in liners, and most models have an
optional thicker liner for winter riding.

My only criticism with Berns is that most aren't vented well. My Brentwood
is too warm to wear in mid-summer; I have a Giro I wear during warm
weather.  The Bern Allston/Morrison models have better venting, and the New
FL-1 is starting to look like the vented "alien" helmets from many other
makers.

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> i was looking at an abus from bike 24. but i always learn so much fromthe
> list.
> i prefers simple not aero
> round is good
> mid price
> any suggestions?
>
> thanks so much
>
> bo
>
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[RBW] I need a new helmet and am hoping for advice

[bo richardson]

i am in the market for a mid price range helmet that is not very aero.
not aero. i am not worried about air slamming into the vacuum behind my helmet 
at speeds in excess of 12 mph.

polo helmet-ish would be nice. if i could get one with lights built an and 
a mirror as part of the helmet that would be perfect. 

mirrors  on the glasses earpiece bend the glasses out of shape.

i would also buy a pair of glasses with an integrated mirror if that were 
available.

does anyone have a suggestion?

thanks so much

bo

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[RBW] Re: Beautiful Atlantis on EBay

[Belopsky]

Nothing at all. 

On Monday, May 8, 2017 at 12:05:41 AM UTC-4, drew wrote:
>
> what's the deal with pros closet?

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[RBW] Re: FS: tektro brakes, shifters, swift ind panniers, silver shifters, sam hillborne F/F/HS and more

[Jeff Lesperance]

Tektro Novela brakes, pedals and Sam Hillborne remain available - all other
items have been spoken for.

On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Jeff Lesperance 
wrote:

> I'm getting close to new bike day and ready to clean out some extraneous
> items. I think I'm advertising friendly prices, but I'm open to suggestions
> that I might not be. Make an offer. I'll discount multiple items to a
> single destination.
>
> Pictures here: https://drive.google.com/open?id=
> 0B6fp2AmAnZgmLUJTRnJ5NXJGSFE
>
> 1. Tektro R556 brakes, bike worth, used, great shape, reasonable pad left,
> recessed nut, nut on front is currently a sheldon fender nut, which I hope
> to keep, but if I can't find a regular nut, you get the sheldon fender nut
> - $30 shipped
>
> 2. Tektro Novela disc brake calipers and levers - rode these briefly as
> the stock brakes on a Breezer Beltway - bikes worth - $30 shipped
>
> 3. Swift Industries canvas rolltop panniers, brown and burgundy with high
> wheeler graphic - $100 shipped
>
> 4. Rivendell Silver shifters on bar end pods - $45 shipped
>
> 5. Shimano Deore trigger shifters, 3x9 - $10 shipped
>
> 6. Campy Centaur FD - $15 shipped
>
> 7. Large Bike Burrito tool roll, brown outside, orange inside - $20 shipped
>
> 8. big pedals, I think these are sunlite - $10 shipped
>
> 9. Rivendell half mitts - these are weird, never used, kicked around my
> workshop for a few years - $10 shipped.
>
> 10. 60cm Sam Hillborne, frame/fork/headset - I've advertised this here
> previously as a complete bike and partial build. I ended up pulling the
> parts off for a different build. I'm the second owner, it's got its share
> of paint chips and scrapes. There's a paint chip on the seat tube that I've
> now confirmed to be a small dent - it came to me with this chip/dent and I
> always thought it just a chip and thought nothing of it. After unbuilding
> it recently and shining a light down the seat tube I confirmed it's a small
> depression in the tube. I've ridden this fully loaded touring offroad for
> many miles and ridden year round as a commuter and long-distance
> day-tripper . I'll take more pics and post if you like. Sam needs a new
> home as my bike stable is going to be over-capacity with a new bike
> expected this week. $450 plus Bike Flights shipping.
>
> -Jeff
> Silver Spring, MD
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: tektro brakes, shifters, swift ind panniers, silver shifters, sam hillborne F/F/HS and more

[Daniel Jackson]

Hi Jeff,

I'll take the silver shifters if still available. On Mobile so can't PM. 

Thanks,
D. 

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[RBW] Re: tires for clem

[Ian A]

I was going through this recently, but looking for 26" x 2.3. I was 
disappointed to learn that Thunderburts by Schwalbe are no longer available 
in the 26" size, but they are still made in the 27.5 version. I have two 
bikes that can handle the 27.5 Thunderburts, but haven't tried them yet. I 
hope to in the future when I work through my current tire stock (Maxxis DTH 
in 26" and Hetre in 650b).

IanA.

On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 9:44:17 PM UTC-6, Davey Two Shoes wrote:
>
> Hi everyone
> I' love my clem (riv stock build) but I'd like to upgrade the tires from 
> the 1.75 kendas to something bigger and more supple. In a perfect world 
> Compass would make a 27.5 x 2.3 tire but thats not happening. What are some 
> of you clem riders running?
> Thanks
> Dave
>

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