[RBW] Re: For Sale Feelers: 2001 Riv Road, Joe/Joe, 52 cm

Mark, did you get any nibbles on this bike? It's looks fantastic. Cheers, Bill in Roswell, GA On Saturday, May 20, 2017 at 6:32:11 PM UTC-4, Mark R. wrote: > > I thought I would post this to see if there is interest, it mostly sits in > my spare bedroom. I like to look at it, since 2014 I

[RBW] 60cm Cheviot Owner Questions: Which Hitch-mounted Bike Racks Work & Largest Tire Width With Fenders

Howard, Can you describe the clearance problem you had in more detail? I have been contemplating the same Zeppelin/Snoqualmie combination for my Sam Hillborne, which currently has R559s. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] FS: Schwalbe Marathon Supremes 700 x 32

2 Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 700 x 32 tires for sale. The tires are in nearly new condition. Have less than 50 miles of use. Asking $75.00 shipped in the lower 48, of the pair. These are the folding model. PM me offline if interested. -- You received this message because you are subscribed

Re: [RBW] FS: 650b tires. Schwalbe/ Compass

Hey Zach, switchbacks are sold.-Mike Sent from my iPhone > On May 23, 2017, at 4:39 PM, Zach Duval wrote: > > Any chance those Switchback Hills are still available? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners

Re: [RBW] FS-Nigel Smythe Trunk Bag

Let me know if you come to an arrangement. I've the same bag at my house. Purchased but not mounted. NOS ca 2007. I don't want to flood the market. Marc in Calgary > On May 23, 2017, at 9:25 don't AM, Peter H > wrote: > > Update: I should have mentioned it's

[RBW] Re: 650b, fenders and a Bob Yak

Cool. Thanks. I measured earlier and it seemed like it would be fine but Bob's website is vague about how things play with a fully fendered 650b bike. On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 9:27:00 PM UTC-4, Orc wrote: > > The older bob yak (16" wheel) clears a Pari-Moto + fender with enough >

[RBW] Re: 650b, fenders and a Bob Yak

The older bob yak (16" wheel) clears a Pari-Moto + fender with enough clearance that I've never bothered to measure. The modern yak says 360mm clearance on the fork, which should be enough for up to a 50mm tire + fender, but you should measure your machine nevertheless. -david parsons On

[RBW] Re: Even a riv (design) can wobble

Well claiming "won't ever" may be going too far, but my Gios has never even hinted at shimmy and I have ridden it no hands and bolt upright or leaning back to stretch many many times. That said, its handling is very very quick (great crit bike). If your balance and smooth spin aren't good you

[RBW] Hubbuh Racks

Those who have received your Hubbuhs: I vaguely recall Grant mentioning that rack adapters were being made for the Hubbuh that allow the Nitto racks Riv sells to be used on the frames. Any word on this? I'm hoping to setup a big back rack on the Hubbuh... Thanks, Daniel in VT, patiently

[RBW] 650b, fenders and a Bob Yak

Will the standard size Bob Yak trailer fit a 650b Homer with fenders or do I need the bigger Yak 28? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] FS: 650b tires. Schwalbe/ Compass

Any chance those Switchback Hills are still available? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: 60cm bombadil frameset 600 usd + shipping

Sale pending...Thanks to the many listers who expressed an interestsky On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 5:30:34 PM UTC-7, Sky Coulter wrote: > > Hey all, > > I've got to start getting rid of some of the bikes and frames I have > laying about. First up is a dark dark green 60cm bombadil frameset

[RBW] Some bags FS

I have way too many bags for my current 'less bikes' situation. All prices shipped CONUS, PM for pics. Olive Carradice, has side pockets and a longflap, vg condition, don't know model, $85 Sackville Bar Tube brown, vg condition, $55 Olive Sackville small/front Trunksack, beausaged but not

[RBW] Re: 60cm Cheviot Owner Questions: Which Hitch-mounted Bike Racks Work & Largest Tire Width With Fenders

it works well with my 1up rack. Clayton Scott SF, CA On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 1:05:39 PM UTC-7, tc wrote: > > The 60cm Cheviot has a 48" (122cm) wheelbase, as confirmed by Vince at > Rivendell today. Right on, LeahFoy, thank you! > -- You received this message because you are subscribed

[RBW] Re: Even a riv (design) can wobble

Sounds like the way you were riding it. Does a bike exist that won't ever shimmy when someone rides no handed and leaning back? On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 7:42:46 PM UTC-7, Bruce K Jamison wrote: > > My SOMA San Marcos 59cm has been a great bike. At the end of a long ride > where I was

Re: [RBW] Re: Save Bruce Gordon Cycles

On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 2:10:23 PM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote: > > IMHO, Steelman priced himself out of the market. Nice frames that suddenly > rocketed into the stratosphere in price while remaining pretty much the > same. > I believe steelman's prices were similar to Sachs and Vanilla.

Re: [RBW] Re: Save Bruce Gordon Cycles

IMHO, Steelman priced himself out of the market. Nice frames that suddenly rocketed into the stratosphere in price while remaining pretty much the same. --Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram) > On May 23, 2017, at 2:06 PM, Brewster Fong wrote: >

Re: [RBW] Re: Save Bruce Gordon Cycles

The boutique custom steel framebuilding business isn't easy. I understand that one of the best, Mark DiNucci gets about $5500 for his framesets but he doesn't have a big wait list. The two steel framebuilders who supposedly have 5+ year wait list and can command top dollar for their framesets,

Re: [RBW] Re: Save Bruce Gordon Cycles

Any way he'd just help design some frames, give 'em the Pope's blessing for an annual plus per-unit licensing agreement, then allow someone else to foot the startup costs and job 'em out to Toyo or Maxway? Keep the name alive, keep the frames coming, keep a regular income, and keep his skin

Re: [RBW] Re: Save Bruce Gordon Cycles

I don't think anybody is making a killing building frames. If you were smart and lucky and didn't get hosed by business partners, you became Ritchey Logic. BG never reached that level of mass market penetration, and now just wants to unload his shop and sell some tires. I hope it works out for

Re: [RBW] Re: 60cm bombadil frameset 600 usd + shipping

Is this still available? Can i call dibs? On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 9:16:23 PM UTC-4, Sky Coulter wrote: > > Hi Steven. > > Its 700c and fits a 55mm without and a 50mm with. I'm pretty sure it can > fit bigger than that, given i had it setup with 63mm fenders, but didn't > run anything

[RBW] Staem Cleaning and Rando Bars

Does anyone steam clean their bike? All the muddy dirt roads here gunk up my chain and it's so time consuming to clean it. I'm wondering if I can use the steam cleaner I have, a household, low pressure model. for that as well as components, rims etc. Will the tires and paint spand 212

[RBW] Re: 60cm Cheviot Owner Questions: Which Hitch-mounted Bike Racks Work & Largest Tire Width With Fenders

The 60cm Cheviot has a 48" (122cm) wheelbase, as confirmed by Vince at Rivendell today. Right on, LeahFoy, thank you! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

Re: [RBW] Re: Save Bruce Gordon Cycles

I don't believe that is the case. Knowing how much his tires cost to make there's no way he's going to retire on that alone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

Re: [RBW] Re: Save Bruce Gordon Cycles

Does anyone make a /good/ living framebuilding, or is it just that some framebuilders can do a good job of pretending that they're living lives of opulent excess while actually bailing like mad to keep ahead of the constant inflow of one expense after another? Shoot, Riv itself seems like a

[RBW] FS: 700c XT/DT Wheelset

Hi All, Have a wheelset for sale: Front (100) and rear (135) XT hubs (T780, rim brake) silver 36h laced to DT Swiss TK540 black with silver DT Double Butted spokes with brass nipples and washers. 3x front and rear. Comes with original Skewers. Wheels are in good shape with plenty of life

[RBW] Re: Save Bruce Gordon Cycles

I agree. $250,000 is actually a large amount of money for this business as it is. If it was "chump change" he would have gotten an offer by now. But he wants to hold on to the most profitable and easy to take over portion which is the tires. -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Re: Save Bruce Gordon Cycles

Vincent van Gogh committed suicide after years of mental illness and poverty (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_van_Gogh ). Bruce has made (I would hope) a good living producing bikes for other people. He owns some now that he can sell, but

[RBW] Re: Save Bruce Gordon Cycles

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 11:50:51 AM UTC-7, Julian Westerhout wrote: > > Evan, > > If you " honestly don't care what happens as long as Bruce gets what he > deserves" then this endeavor is really pointless. You seem to think a > quarter million dollars is

[RBW] Re: Save Bruce Gordon Cycles

Evan, If you " honestly don't care what happens as long as Bruce gets what he deserves" then this endeavor is really pointless. You seem to think a quarter million dollars is chump change. Having been on the board of several established not-for-profits (not bike related) I can tell you

Re: [RBW] Re: Save Bruce Gordon Cycles

It would be nicer if they were donated, yes, but I can imagine why BG would be somewhat annoyed after coming to the realization that spending most of his life as a (really good) framebuilder and $2.50 is worth a cup of drip coffee at Starbucks. -david parsons On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at

Re: [RBW] Re: Save Bruce Gordon Cycles

Trust me, we've been over all the options. If you think you have a better rapport with him than I do be my guest. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: [RBW] Re: Save Bruce Gordon Cycles

If he can’t sell the bikes, he should consider donating them. There are probably a few tall people out there in need of transportation who could use a serviceable bicycle. Much better than having them scrapped. --Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram) > On May 23,

[RBW] Re: Save Bruce Gordon Cycles

We've got a group of people together to discuss the best framework to use. If you have experience setting up a nonprofit, coop or b corp I encourage you to send me your email and I'll add you to the group. If you think Bruce is messing around maybe you're right, or maybe you don't actually know

Re: [RBW] Save Bruce Gordon Cycles

Ah … the “greater fool” theory: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_fool_theory --Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram) > On May 23, 2017, at 10:37 AM, Orc wrote: > > More hassle than

Re: [RBW] Save Bruce Gordon Cycles

More hassle than throwing them into a dumpster. I suspect that what BG wants is for one of the more-money-than-god-less-sense-than-a-cat .com billionaires that infest the bay area to throw down some pocket change, then show up with a moving truck and get the things out of his hair. And

[RBW] Re: Even a riv (design) can wobble

When did it go away? After you stopped riding no hands? On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 9:42:46 PM UTC-5, Bruce K Jamison wrote: > > My SOMA San Marcos 59cm has been a great bike. At the end of a long ride > where I was admittedly tired and not riding in the best fashion (no hands, > leaning way

[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto S84 27.2 x 250mm Lugged Seatpost

The seat post is sold. On Sunday, May 21, 2017 at 3:27:02 PM UTC-5, GSE wrote: > > I am selling a Nitto S-84 lugged steel seat post. Pictures attached. It > is 27.2 x 250 mm. Asking $85.00 shipped to lower 48. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [RBW] Re: Save Bruce Gordon Cycles

Thanks to Julian for asking some important questions. As good a framebuilder as he is, I wonder how many people will travel to Petaluma to see his workshop who aren’t already going to the US Bicycle Hall of Fame museum in Davis? Call Richard Sachs and ask him how many people show up at his

Re: [RBW] Even a riv (design) can wobble

Do you mean "shimmy", where just riding along, the front end will start a rapid, high frequency well, wobble? As opposed to the lower frequency wobble you get say from a bent rim? If it's shimmy, then IME all sorts of imponderable little things can cause it. I've had shimmy come, or go, after

[RBW] Re: Save Bruce Gordon Cycles

My response to this on the Boblist (for those who don't follow both): Evan, Do you have an actual business plan beyond hoping others give you enough $ to buy his bikes? Aside from his cool bike collection and the relatively minimal value of his tools, the value of the business IS Bruce

[RBW] Re: Save Bruce Gordon Cycles

Perhaps as a Kickstarter venture rather than a donation? With abandon, Patrick On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 9:40:21 PM UTC-6, Evan Baird wrote: > > Cross Post from BOB > > Hey Everybody. I spoke with Bruce Gordon again this afternoon and he still > hasn't found a buyer for his shop. > -- You

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis! Tire question

Not that I noticed, Ed, but I just switched and kept riding happy and delighted, so I suppose the most accurate answer is the Racing Ralphs are at least as plush as the Thunder Burts as I'd have not kept ridding them if they were less plush. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at

Re: [RBW] Save Bruce Gordon Cycles

He seems like an interesting guy. I highly doubt he's going to recycle his bikes- that seems like an idle threat. Why not raffle them off? Sell some tickets for $10 or $25. Have a minimum number of tickets you'd need to sell. Winners pay shipping. Or how about offering something to commemorate

Re: [RBW] Save Bruce Gordon Cycles

On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 8:28:32 AM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote: > > He’s going to take a potentially valuable bicycle collection to the > recycler for scrap? That strikes me as either monumentally stupid or > something done in a fit of pique. What’s wrong with selling them? > I think the

[RBW] Re: FS: Choco-Norm Bar, Tallux Stem, Paul Thumbies, Shimano Bar Ends, Sugino Triple

The thumbies are sold. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] Butch Bubbe

That looks very rideable. I've not kept up with the design details of the later Riv models, but I thought that the RB, Clems, Appaloosas, and so on were designed with very long tts and meant to be ridden with swept back bars. Apparently not. What is the st and tt of this one? (C-c.) On Mon, May

Re: [RBW] Save Bruce Gordon Cycles

He’s going to take a potentially valuable bicycle collection to the recycler for scrap? That strikes me as either monumentally stupid or something done in a fit of pique. What’s wrong with selling them? --Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram) > On May 22, 2017, at

[RBW] Re: Save Bruce Gordon Cycles

Threats as motivation=not so good. On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 11:40:21 PM UTC-4, Evan Baird wrote: > > Cross Post from BOB > > Hey Everybody. I spoke with Bruce Gordon again this afternoon and he still > hasn't found a buyer for his shop. My partner Norma and I decided that we > want to try to

[RBW] FS-Nigel Smythe Trunk Bag

Update: I should have mentioned it's the large style trunk bag, dimensions are 13" long x 5 3/4" wide x 6 1/2" tall -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[RBW] Re: Butch Bubbe

What does "Butch" mean? Tough, useful or just an overall sense of satisfaction? On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 8:12:43 AM UTC-4, William R. wrote: > > What the other Bill said from another Bill! > > Bill in Westchester, NY > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis! Tire question

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 8:51 AM, Jeremy Till wrote:"... the goatheads are endemic, so while I can see the appeal of Compass or Soma suppleness it just doesn't make sense for me. " Just in case: 175 gram tires with Orange seal are fine on our dirt roads, and I'll be we have

[RBW] Re: Atlantis! Tire question

Another plug for Marathon Supremes, especially in the 700x40. My touring-ish bike (Long Haul Trucker) is first and foremost a commuter, and my commute involves urban and industrial streets with glass and metal debris, and even when I'm on country roads the goatheads are endemic, so while I

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Thanks Ed. I agree that the Hunq is a comfy ride for sure. I love it. My pic is a few replies back from here. Build is: XT 1x11 165mm XT cranks XT hydros with 203/180 rotors Thomson setback Loop bars Selle Anatomica Titanico X Velocity Dually with Hope Fatsno Evo 4 front and XT rear

[RBW] ISO Mountain Bike Brake Levers

Could offer a set of MKS Grip King pedals to trade for brake levers is that interests anyone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: FS: 61cm AHH...

Update...Hilsen is also soldThank youAll 3 bikes sold now... On Monday, May 8, 2017 at 10:32:48 PM UTC-7, Peter Gillis wrote: > > I was a rider and on this forum for many years. I suffer from a neuro > disease and can no longer ride an upright bike, so am selling my AHH. It > has a few

[RBW] FS: Choco-Norm Bar, Tallux Stem, Paul Thumbies, Shimano Bar Ends, Sugino Triple

Hi Johnny, I'll take your thumbies! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

[RBW] FS: Choco-Norm Bar, Tallux Stem, Paul Thumbies, Shimano Bar Ends, Sugino Triple

1. 54cm Aluminim Choc-Norm handlebar. 100% brand new/never used. - *$80 shipped* https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-choco-norm-bar-alu-ht-54cm-x-25-4-16249 2. 24.5 clamp 13cm reach Tallux Stem. 100% brand new/never used - *$60 shipped* 3. Paul Thumbies - Package was opened but they are

[RBW] Butch Bubbe

What the other Bill said from another Bill! Bill in Westchester, NY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Butch Bubbe

I love a Riv with RnR style tires, no fenders, overall minimal builds... absolutely love them. Like the bike version of a tuxedo t shirt or a mullet... stylish but still knows how to get down and dirty! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Love this machine: https://www.instagram.com/p/BTMjL1oA-qM/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis! Tire question

Hi Deacon, Is the Racing Ralphs more plush and smooth compared to Thunder Burts? On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:31 AM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > For a Compass tire-ish like ride (plush and smooth, without built in flat > protection) while having knobbies, Thunder Burts (less

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Hi Geeter, Sorry to hear that you have to go thru surgery because of your disc issues. I just got lucky that I only required rest, therapy and visits to a chiropractor to help me recover. After my slip disc recovery, I actually felt better riding my Hunqapillar versus walking. There is